Police doubled during the covert health crisis. Those are your headlines for this hour right now its time for cross to say with. Hello and welcome across the uk were all things are considered im hearing about all across the board trump is down in the polls and not just by a pointer to traditionally incumbency alone is enough to win reelection but this time around it is a race trump made and lets be clear this has little to do with joe biden how did we get to this point. To discuss this and more im joined by my guest in washington. She is a democratic strategist and political analyst and in los angeles we grossly joe collins he is a g. O. P. Congressional candidate and californias 43rd district or across up rules in effect that means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciate ok traditionally i go to the person that got up early is for this program as joe in los angeles welcome to the program joe and i hope i have a nice cup of coffee to keep you Company Donald trumps in trouble in the polls and one here in looking at the candidates see if joe biden which i have to say quite honestly i cant imagine how it inspires anyone so obviously this is getting down to being a referendum on the trump time trying to time in office was that a fair characterization a referendum less than an election. No i wouldnt think so in a reason why is because he was down in the polls whenever he ran against him reclaiming and. Not double digits like this im sorry yeah i mean still going to close down the polls very gross and how much are down i think that what they have to remember is hes running against joe biden i mean hes in my opinion are one of the most racist politicians and the entire United States and when you think about his history and politician in he you know out of place america then why what he did and why he was in the senate in 2 he would have probably you know how barack obama fix america by the fact that he feels like right now it is time to fix something that he feels is broking in my opinion asinine i think trump is going to win this election hes running against joe biden who my opinion thats not a great candy for office to present a United States where i mean i said i said in my introduction we know i mean we look at the history of the presidency the likelihood of being reelected the incumbent being reelected is quite high ok there are obviously exceptions but its a trend here and donald trump isnt really. Duplicating i guess the same question to you it seems to me its much more a referendum on the occupant of the. And theres almost nothing to do with joe biden youre free to disagree obviously go ahead and disagree that what were seeing with President Trump is a president who has aggressively gone against the grain of all things when it comes to moralistic being someone who is seen as president ial he is taking this role of in authoritarian versus someone who actually understands what a democracy is how it functions and even has ever read the constitution what were seeing with joe biden is someone who they think that america 1st employer most issue suit joe biden is local jail to a lot of people hes someone who was part of the most successful Democratic Administration the past 6 years and hes also someone shuhada knows how to unite United Nation and right now in the midst of a Global Pandemic in the midst of an economic crisis he is someone who is also waded through an economic crisis before he is the orchestrator along with president obama of the relief packages after the crash of 2008 so i think that with him people are seeing someone who is in stark contrast to what president ial office doing not only in terms of unification but also someone who is not making flat out racist statements someone who is not objectifying women someone who is not out here being the antithesis to all things democracy and all things democratic and i think that that is something that speaks more to people than anything else is there referendum on donald trump absolutely but i think that just by saying that that is the only reason or you know part and parcel of black people are getting out to vote i think that that is a little bit too broad of a statement shows i made several mistakes over and over and over again hes someone who believes wholeheartedly in what he is doing its own business and so many unborn errors it is remarkable ok but let me let me stay with you here let me rephrase it here joe biden just as it is likable and simmering clinton i think thats what it gets down to because trump hasnt been able to put a label on joe were joined by. That sticks because like you said he has a likability quotient that is very difficult to challenge and i think hes an empty suit and i dont see anything to be proud it will be in the Obama Administration but most importantly for joe if hes not likable joe react to the last of us. Disagree with that as well joe biden is not a likable candidate i mean when you talk about the contrast between President Trump and him you know you know his growth mean you have to look at joe biden in this group of children and as something that plays a huge part in whether people especially in a black or Latino Community to vote for him especially you know with that crime bill still pending on the books i mean hes going to have to do some type of you mustnt have a restitution on a set of eyes and mass incarceration for black america and hes going to have to explain how why he so easily hand he actually would children. Ok im ok but then i think ive got standard you can accuse donald trump of the same thing and you know if and that can be an element and maybe that is something that will make people think we or they pull the lever but that has nothing to do really with policy and thats what i really want to stay with your this character defamation stuff i guess and doesnt move the needle i dont think with anyone here michel let me go to you you know policy wise i mean if you look at trump in the polls he started he started collapsing with the kind of the coronavirus and his administrations response to it and i dont in my opinion and im a conservative joe dont misunderstand im a conservative ok but it seems to me that theyre playing catch up now in trying to deal with this pandemic and of course it has been grossly politicized by all sides go ahead in washington and i think that you make a very good point up until coronavirus hit and we saw all President Trump go from having daily briefings to now pausing and having no briefings to coming back and having more briefings his disillusionment and excitement about a drug that has been proven time and time again not to work in protecting people against coronavirus or actually saving lives and hydroxy clark which is him making several statements about not wearing a mask and himself not modeling wearing a mask and just being someone to ignore it even his own task force when it came to the steps necessary to reopen schools when it came to the steps necessary to ensure that everyone had the p. P. T. That they needed were watching time and time again in a Global Crisis where the president needs to be someone who is it unifier but also someone who pays attention to and understands the science were seeing this president not do that and utilize his isolation his policies not only to pull out a lot of the a lot of the unifying missions when it comes to health care we see what he how his reaction is with the World Health Organization we see him not listing to other nations state leaders who have come together on trying to fight coronavirus. This is a united front because of the populism that this president exemplifies because of his isolationist policies you cannot see the forest for the trees and it is really causing more and more people to die we just saw a report what last week they showcased how initially he was absolutely fine with not following a lot of the guidelines or not even talking about them because he thought that the states that were going to be the most affected or states that were democratic democratically run when you assume that people can die in democratic led states and you can just blame governors thats a problem hes present the United States not just president of the red states ok we just heard something that i want to explore because something that ive been thinking about a lot i think that all of us would agree that trump ran is a populist in 2016 and he won ok he won the only needed look toral votes to win the presidency ok joe has governed as a populist because i dont think he has go ahead you know what i dont think there is any correct way to govern especially in a time like coronavirus a you can do a better job just agree with that thats when you see real leadership real leadership when you have a challenge for all the country for every citizen irrespective of what letter you put at the end of your last name or you have to be a leader of all go ahead absolutely and i absolutely agree with that and like i said before there are things that he could have done better there are things that his ministration have done better especially one time like coronavirus but i will say this the media doesnt give him a fair shot i mean when he tries to shut down travel to Foreign Countries they call them a race and they call them all types of names you know and you can make that assumption and he can blame governors from things that are happening and in states by less youve got a horny as an example gavin newsom shut down our statements as minor he opened Gavin Newsome did you know a 1000000000 dollar do you get my ass in china you know and so when you look at these type of bans when you consider them. Information especially when it comes to wear and mask what type of mass we are if mass even a fact if you know you have to put that on the head of the leadership now president of has his ideals are how he filled balloons to go just like every other governor not in their day when it comes to managing states being overall you know leadership by the overawed already comes from a governor so i have been theres a group with mrs cross on that when the governors are there has a distaste president trying to make recommendations but he controls what happens federally each individual state. Lets go back to. Washington are you disappointed how this pandemic and the reaction to it has been so politicized because you know all lives that red state right here and i really pains me when we talk about red states and blue states were dealing with a pandemic because a pet pen demming doesnt discriminate between red and blue states here in is there any neutral ground on this series and theres nothing theres no neutral ground in american politics right now go ahead no absolutely and youre right the pandemic doesnt discriminate the policies happen to there are very few policies across this country that are race neutral and we know that over time weve seen it extrapolated across the whole where there are blacks latinos who consistently are hit hardest when things like this pandemic occur or any type of economic upheaval but when it comes specifically to coronavirus the expectation was that from the top and the president is at the top that you would have a leader who was able to get a piece by piece plan and a strategy around how states would handle this be in Constant Contact with state leadership give a guy point because you are the leader of the greatest nation on earth you are that leadership model youre supposed to model yourself after what you would expect citizens to do and what we saw a time and time again was trump mistake those opportunities we saw him stand in front audiences and just not tell the truth we saw him ignore the science we. Saw him speak against things that his own Pandemic Task force what is giving other alternative information for thats a problem because it will lack a lot of trust it made people confused the reason why we have such a push against mass Wearing Masks right now is because the president for the longest did not wear them and he actually tweeted out aggression and support for those who were marching in stomping on state capitals with weapons so that they didnt have to wear them so when we see a president take those types of games in the wrong direction and we consistently see the coronavirus case its up to over and over and over again it begs the question are we a leaderless nation and youre right i think you said this a few moments ago most of crisis or when you see true leaders rise what weve seen is this president all over and over again at a time where in all honesty the whole world is seeing a crisis in the United States is typically where people look for motivations where people look for this guy post and right now thats just not what were seeing were seeing countries bar the United States and our citizens if you look around the world the United States is a laggard is one of the worst performers in dealing with deming are ok my forbes over the whole issue of opening up of schools its really only in the u. S. Everyone else is moving on youre right im going to jump in here were going to go to a short break now but thats our break well continue our discussion on trumps reelection stay with our. New gold rush is underway and gonna thousands of ill equipped workers are flocking to the gold fields hoping to strike it rich give a good. Day over to those that work children are torn between dont. Was very poor i thought i was doing my best get back to see which side will have the strongest appeal. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Tyson nation community. Are you going the right way or are you being so. Direct. What is true what is faith. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or remain in the shallows. Welcoming to cross that were all things are considered im Peter Lavelle true mind you were discussing trumps reElection Campaign. Ok lets go back to Los Angeles Joe lets look at leave the economic reaction to depend make here. Personally as a conservative im very disappointed at the white house hasnt taken to the dealing i mean 1st of all we have the 1st round of stimulus bailout and of course it went to some of the richest people in the world people that didnt even need the money ok and that goes across the board whatever your political affiliations its the one percent they got relief ok the stock market so war is ok what im really upset is that you know mix with Mitch Mcconnell he comes into washington for a couple weeks you know somebody might do something maybe we will maybe we wont and then well go on vacation. And here there are millions in millions of people facing a crisis right now i really cute one particularly when renting is that issue is there you know it is coming up people who are not being able to pay their rent here why hasnt donald trump got into the oval office told the networks we have a National Emergency and this is what i the president of the United States wants done and i dont care what you think mcconnell you better get back in your seat and we get to figure this out because millions and this is only going to get worse this is known to be weird for america if youre going to look if its going to be done in the long term ok where is the leadership right there because it seems to me that there is this is an ideal moment in this Election Campaign for trying to go left of by and say were going to bail out the middle class and working class people he ran as a populist but he doesnt govern as one go ahead or. Agree with his cross said earlier when he said that our black and brown communities are economically disadvantaged and this is you know true coronavirus and before coronavirus these are some of things that we have to go through on the law every day now when you x. Outcome the president has in you know joe biden to say this is what we need to do i have a lot of questions i would like to x. And another question i would like to ask because i cant even the aster we have to reach out so its ministration we have actually not come you never visited any black and broke a music show that you actually care about what it is we go through on a regular basis i mean we are aware economically disadvantaged at every every turn when it comes to education when it comes to the lack of Economic Development when it comes to having quality jobs in our community and when it when it comes Affordable Housing or even tell you know theyre innocent most of those communities are run by democrats yes this is absolutely correct it is but this you know what im not going to say the. Democrats are the problem and i will say that people who are leadership positions in the Democratic Party are the problem i mean i look at areas like south and you also handles the 40 there in their shoes whove been governed by Maxine Waters for over 40 years i mean people have gotten comfortable without getting anything from their representatives as you say they felt to hold them accountable which is why many more people stand up especially young people is that enough to row for these office positions that we dont have to actually ask questions we can be they actually do these questions ok but they can what do you think what can donald trump to attract the support. Of people of color black black communities where you are here i mean it seems to me that in there he seem it seems to me that donald trump is kind of lost his mind this touch because he can he can fight off you know this russia impeachment need crain all of that nonsense he was able to do it but when it came to business here he seems to have lost his touch it seems to me in the administration as listless and you know what really angers me going to for a conservative big conservative is that he continues to listen to these libertarians around him you know mix the regulate this get a tax cut our job is done lets go home that is a recipe for a mcgovern rout style rout in november here were done no youre not youre done for your friends and your donors but youre not done for the American People and and i and thats what and thats why i will so sorely criticizes the administration because i dont see any proactivity concierge treatment for the rich but no we cant spend the money you know if you spend hundreds of billions of dollars on the military all the time but you can spend it on Middle America then whats the point go ahead continue joe well this is this is about leadership that we see in the inner cities on a regular basis whether to present is a democrat or a pup. Again they never stepped foot into our cities theres been very little progress on legislation thats been passed to economically empower communities of black and latino so this is something that i see on a daily basis that i know maybe no the you but i think you know to have a republican in office i mean you know spread that leadership around to the urban areas that i have no you know no no positive there is a way of people chipping the know if you have the president in some rounds themselves with people concerned with the stock market. To these worried about how start america doing which is no litmus test on how 98 percent of the people may not have states ok but is just absurd ok and i cant understand why he cant you know break out of that bubble ok and his friends are fine theyre always like good to be fined ok. Lets go back to washington only in your mind your supporter of joe Joe Joe Biden that is how do you think he would deal differently with this crisis go ahead mischa joe biden is a believer of science he is someone she will brand the policies he is someone who has a. Doctor on call when it comes to understanding a lot of Different Things particularly like he was in the Obama Administration while they were fighting zico while they were fighting a lot of several other pandemics that didnt necessarily affect america as much but were a part of his global strategy for other nations particularly those in africa and Central America and i think that the when you have someone who understands science and thats why you need president s and leaders who arent people who are antiscience or anti back when you have people who understand science they respond to pain to mix they respond to health care crises and of different issues as you say marty been says its ok to protests black lives matter but wheres the science and math well we have also seen that those protesters named. I mean largely tested negative for coke at 19 so you know they move differently i mean we know that those individuals did not make over 1000 and then but with the exception thats not scientific but its political what it is though is when you are in a nation that consistently buries black bodies and you dont see any type of restitution nor do you see any type of change do you not think and i know this because my grandparents are participant in the study there is always a housing crisis for your rights to having a certain level or an ability to take advantage of your civil rights to have those things honored when you see black men and women die at the hands of Police Officers every day theres only so much energy or social media marriage will deny those people were willing to take any of this treatment thats absolutely absolutely true that is absolutely not true most black people that are murdered in the United States are murdered by other plot people not most white people in the United States are murdered by other white people 85 percent interracial violence is not something thats just black but blacks its also why dont why whats go we know that. Youre making a little exception go ahead jump in joe you make me have heard you saw it in there were going to use mrs krause analogy i mean like she said that the coronavirus move differently outside and i suggest that we open up all the states but if were going to use science to justify mass proving that were mass is actually kind of dangerous to people when they were in 24 sevenths which makes Wearing Masks you know appropriate as well but i mean were going to we can go back to california or gavin newsom is about to release 18000 prisoners of mass effect of prisoners the mass in prison but i mean when it comes to issues like rise matter how was there for training as well as black on black crime in america i think that we as leaders have a year from now if theres one time we have to get a breath of the black lives Matter Movement to find out what is the painting to the people who figure out some type resolution we know was painting to the people on black on black crime is a misnomer again and the center part. A crime in my community because im going to buy white projects out there is black on black crime thats also white on white crime and i was born and raised in chicago chicago is my home so when you are stars you know chicago is there are all things going wrong i have a problem because ill tell you what i just sent a console darco their economic their Economic Issues their health theres a Health Care Crisis that existed before coping 1000 where over 80 percent of our Mental Health clinics were shut down we just got a level one trauma unit that if youre like. Me once if you want to talk about chicago talk to somebody who is. Not normal who just want to you know we can talk now that these are not republican talking points im from south l. A. They were just shooting down from the sounds that we were talking about chicago to talk about it was another guy she got hers and im born and raised or not is that you know youre not going to have there arent i dont want to tell your problems were going south if you dont ill be here and youre going to see that your school and. Maybe. Not will in new york in los angeles tell me how is this and the rest of the recipe is the exact same just in what is many communities no dogs. However let up look ive got old police car you know what im sorry im just not going to know what im going to vary in violence im sorry for use of those who were killed i think that i didnt see that over time and those things are better have been studied are what over again if you hadnt killed during a particularly areas were not going to see them or do overreach of there is no one will understand what youre saying all right let me ask my last year and its something a question that were all concerned. Are people going to believe the outcome of the election in november is i think this is a very worrisome thing because hillary never came to terms with 2016 and we could have the same thing happen again lets go to washington 1st in a way. You know i think that if trump loses which i am pretty sure that he will hes not going to take that hes not going to take that result sitting down hes going to be upset hes going to talk about how vote by mail through an election and other things but i think that in general the population the American People theyre going to get to the polls be aware that they vote by mail or they actually show up on election day or they early vote or however they decide to do it based on what the coronavirus levels are at the time and its going to be not only a referendum on this administration but also a sign that people want to see something new truck came in and he railed in on this economy that he called the trump economy that was supposed to save all things american and weve seen that economy tank precipitously so i think that people are going to get to the polls and showcase that not only person who is going to be railing against those Election Results is donald trump ok joe last 30 seconds you go ahead i think donald trump going to win has no more democrats going to be upset but the reality is hes been the best president that weve had a very long time i dont enjoy is going to make it to the election not if he goes to jail for the whole reason a scandal well thats a im glad you mentioned that because i think i see him in an embassy and d. C. And all the rest of them dont even know what that is but a lot of people do know about joes crass and pretty please familys business dealings there but thats all the time we have here we have a fantastic discussion no ones here is on fire and well talk again very soon i want to thank our viewers for watching us here or if you see him next time remember those. Clays guide to financial survival john today was all about Money Laundering 1st to visit this cash into 3 different. Oh good thats a good start well we have our 3 banks all set up here maybe something in europe something in america something overseas or the Cayman Islands or do we do all these banks are complicit in the kleptocracy who decide to give mccall and say hey im ready to do some serious Money Laundering ok lets see how we did while weve got all got a nice luxury watch for max and for stacy old beautiful jewelry and how about. Luxury automobile again for max they know what Money Laundering highly illegal. 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