Dollars and they Say International travel for them will not resume until the middle of 2021 the middle of next year you talk about the cruise industry you know the Cayman Islands saying that theyre not going to allow International Cruises to come in to the Cayman Islands until at least after december 31st of this year so it doesnt really matter what sector youre in everybodys taking it on the chin right now and no barrier there are destinations like bali that plan to reopen the tourism by september but overall are people actually traveling right now and will tourism pick up again this year or is everything going to shift to 2021 or is it going to be 2022. I think it really depends on where you live regardless where in the world you are i think domestic trouble is that they yes thing right now obviously mainly just because of border closures you know here in cannes i can only go to certain destinations u. S. Citizens can only go to certain areas but if you can stay domestic theres definitely an opportunity to travel and the interesting thing is a lot of these countries around the world theyve got their best laid out as ali was trying to open out later this month theyve already had a delay are through the caribbean early so i can cope and i had the greek lows of borders so i think a lot of these countries around the world are see what other countries are doing especially in europe and asia and trying to decide what is the best course is actually what he said maybe thats just you know recalculating maybe focused on 2021 ok some domestic and just hope for the best for now and now but i want to go back to the Airline Industry now we know that Smaller Airlines worldwide have been struggling is there any sign that things are Getting Better for airlines especially in the u. S. Where congress that has already given them a bailout will congress to give a huge bailout to airlines as you know and the real. Ality is that bailout actually had some Strings Attached to it which is that they could not layoff certain workers and they had to continue to provide service for customers up until a certain point that certain point september 30th well as of october American Airlines has already said theyre now going to cut flights to 15 different small cities across the u. S. Because starting in october theyre no longer bound by part of that 25000000000. 00 that they received you know in part and so i think thats one of the issues that we look at whenever Congress Comes in and bails out these these companies they do it but as soon as that time runs out its customers who are left waiting now and so we dont you dont necessarily blame the airlines for the decision that theyre making they have to make Business Decisions here but its bad for customers all around and then we look at airlines around the world you know Smaller Airlines like over in the u. K. You have easy jet and ryanair which both right now are struggling and dont even know if theyre going to be able to stay in business at this point i dont know barry you being a travel expert you also deal with personal finance so i assume youre dealing with people regularly what about these airlines begin to cut these routes because if air travel becomes more complicated for travelers wont that simply weaken the willingness of travelers to use them what im asking here kind of is are airlines about to find themselves in a very vicious cycle. Definitely but in the end it comes down to business decision you know theyve got to remain profitable and if theyre finding that the smaller destinations smaller airports are making the profits to have to come in you know everyone talks about government sanchez you know theyve been held out to certain extent certain conditions that when that money runs out they need their autumn light so unfortunately that means people who are in the rural areas the small airports are going to be cut at the same time maybe that means airlines can consolidate at their major hubs and refocus you position their search carriers and focus on routes that will be profitable right now though where are those routes going no one really knows based on their courage probably should say even if you want to travel youve got to go any courts you lost that exist in other countries or richard oh and what local regulate. Shoes that are currently in place i mean air travel seems to be certainly complicated right now and it may be bad there is one Silver Lining for the cruise industry is that a new survey shows that the vast majority of past cruisers surveyed say that they plan to cruise again before the end of 2021 thats some good news right. Well it is good news certainly for the cruise industry it demonstrates you know that a lot of people are anxious to do that again in fact that number is 86. 6 percent of those surveyed said that they were going to cruise again before the end of 2021 whats interesting also because of buried in those numbers when you dig down on them though is the fact that those same majority of people say they do not plan to fly to the destination to get on the cruise they would rather travel in a different way or take a cruise thats closer to where they are rather than getting back on an airplane so i do think you know through all the talk of what it means to create safety protocols and just traveling in a safe safer environment is also somewhat of a turnoff to people because there are so many hoops that theyre jumping through in order to travel and so the fewer steps you have to take in order to do so it seems like thats where people are leaning very what are you seeing with the cruise industry because its kind of a selfcontained vacation you go get on have all your restaurants you have all your detainment all of that taken care of and the people who like cruises as we see for that survey really love cruises what do you say in there. You know i have to agree with the survey i talk to anyone who loves a cruise and theyre they cant wait to get back a lot so with the cruising industry you theyre basically going to have to appeal to their core audience to move before they want to make sure this audience these customers are going to feel comfortable republican and on to their careers and what would that mean social distancing or maybe implementing marketing as far as new customers are concerned theyre probably like putting them on the back burner right now they realize it can be very difficult to attract so theyre probably not to put a focus there so theyre really working just on that and were going to sit around and rebuilding the brand after all the negative press they had because of 1000 travel expert barry choi cohost ben swann thank you both for joining us today. 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We spoke with one of the top content creators on the platform to discuss just how this will affect those that make tick tock what it is we would be coming off at the end of the high travel season if not for the covert 19 pandemic but we got some expert analysis on the state of the industry and how its surviving with a packed show today so lets dive right in and now for the latest in the ongoing saga involving social media app ticktock as we previously reported President Donald Trump has said he will ban the app in the u. S. By september 15th unless a deal can be made for microsoft or another American Company to purchase tick tocks u. S. Operations one point that has confused onlookers is the president s contention that a portion of the purchase of the app should have to go to the treasury now White House Press secretary kelly mcenaney was asked about this on tuesday but offered little clarification so im not going to get ahead of the president on any official action but he has made that point and he and secretary pompei i have said that the u. S. Action to the u. S. Will take action in the coming days and chinese apps including tick tock tick tock sees me due to the National Security risk and we all agree that there needs to be a change especially with collecting significant amounts of private data on users its unacceptable now meanwhile President Trump himself spoke to reporters on tuesday and referenced the overwhelming popularity of the juggernaut app. Is very successful it does tremendous business in the United States people are riveted by it i mean i have many friends when they saw that announcement theyre calling i think the kids love it they dont because it will get to see their kids anymore but they are its an amazing thing whatever it may be. This week we have discussed the Cyber Security issues as well as the business implications regarding the situation with tech top but this all raises the question of how will this move affect those who make ticktock what it is and thats the content creators so lets go ahead and bring in one of the top ticktock influencers zach king into the show exactly you so much for joining us we really appreciate it today. Now i want to start with what the president actually just talked about there its a highly popular why has ticktock been able to open that door and become so popular especially over the last 12 months here in the United States. I mean you know as an influencer on. Really in this industry for the last 12 years you know ive been on 6 talks since it was musically 5 years ago and so for us the rise wasnt even in this last year thats made it successful i mean theres been a lot in the last year but what theyve been doing from the beginning i just a couple years ago was there out with so power on that it levels the Playing Field for anyone who wants to as a stone and can make a little fun story or a joke or do a dance or whatever maybe theres a ton of different ecosystems and creators on the internet on tick tock but allows anyone to have the chance to go viral on a totally different level thats thats bigger than weve seen possible with you tube thats bigger than we were instagram and by an event so thats why its so exciting and i think thats the drop not only is it you are but im especially for those viewers who are trying to concentrate on the al because that definitely as a as a viewer of ticktock even if you dont create your own content its very consumable so if youre getting a short video its got a lot of them are music and dance so it gives you something to not only watch but listen to is very enjoyable in that regard now when it comes to this potential purchase from microsoft do you have any concerns about the control of the app changing hands to a Different Company or an outright ban for that matter how is that going to affect the content creators. So the 2 main options that are present on say were now are then we should be a bummer because there are so many people who love the app to talk but also because theres content creators and im not even talking about the content creators like myself who have already kind of excuse the charlie that its in and expand it beyond that theres a lot of creators not yours but its really not the small kind of the some of the just starting creators the budding. Raters you just you know last couple months for getting that runway they had moments of growing their audience and then its going to be shut down the banner to be terrible but also they have lost to a company like microsoft or a tech company at least i think youd see a receptive audience to talk to me would be probably thankful that microsoft stepped in took a look at the security concerns and then check the apple live but the other concern in that bucket is and you merged the 2 managements and cheap tick tock innovating to to grow that success even beyond what it is today that would be the question that were facing now and to your initial point on the 1st question there which is if they happen to adjust the algorithm in some capacity and then they push the bigger ticktock stars over people who may not be known that can create a problem for people trying to break through in the industry and i want to talk about those people because like you said you diversified you have millions of followers across instagram you tube a tick tock and use not started but you were on vine when it was very popular but saw that kind of go away what or what do you kind of give it as far as help to other influencers who are just starting to build on take that what would you tell them to do as this whole situation is happening. While i was talking to other people that i meet on the way in the same journey as i make sure youre diverse i know your audience from the get go on the very beginning i mean not right away but once you have a decent 10000 people on you i met that can you really look at your stuff and find creative ways to get their email contact because theyre going to want to hear from you directly or theres a lot of services now that do text messaging but the goal is to have a direct connection to a small portion of your audience which is the most dedicated and loyal portion anyway and thats you know how its already a little too late to do that now with a month left but thats something from the get go i think creators need to be thinking about how any platform i wanted. I have to you dont direct connection years ago you know it was amazing reach and then when they put the pay wall in front of it you know one percent of our audience must for the rest of the post so they had something you always had to think about in the space and now its to graham is officially launching their tick tock competitor in more than 50 countries they actually watch that wednesday including the u. S. What do you make of this new platform and could this actually kill ticktock while the app is in limbo as a lot of content creators might move to rails where they can actually make that that kind of impact of their. Day intersection of all this time is fascinating to watch theres a lot against sick talk and and with the timing of instagram reels coming out it could be another moment like you saw a snatch of how in stream swooped in the perfect time did their version of stories and it was very successful because everyone you know when you hear theres concerns of privacy i mean your your tendency to be going back to you you already know and where its been in the past and if they have the same features i can be an easy transition but in this case i think youre also trying to replicate a culture which you cant just do with one feature i think theres other things that she is doing in terms of course means content creators even starting their fund to help monetize young cruse it huge something that Instagram Still really has yet to do and if were waiting for so i dont know if it. The new real speech or will just swoop in. That powerfully yet but time will tell really well it depends i think that day its a temper 1514 at the band if it actually happens then i think youll see a lot of momentum behind reels and i guess for our audience who maybe doesnt understand content creators slash influencers quickly can you tell us how this monta zation works and how you guys are able to make money i mean not on your level maybe but on. Some of the smaller levels there. Yeah i mean its a really simple model with brands on you tube you have examples that rolls later the getting the broadcaster medal and well get a piece of that the percent of the ad revenue for those ads but then the other stuff is going out for brands that youre passionate about you know for example im really passionate lagos i love creedence anything that. Its imagined and thats what i want to partner with so take me for example partner with a company like lego and what brand you look like to. Create a 62nd video in that case and that would be a piece of our monetization ticktock of social media stars act can we hope to have you back thank you so much for your time today. And e. U. Regulators have delayed a ruling over how much if anything to find twitter for its handling of a data breach disclosed in 2019 now twitter was set to become the 1st tech giant to face a fine from Irelands Data Protection Commission after the body submitted their decision to Member States in may but some regulators objected to irelands initial ruling which will cause a Broader Group of regulators to seek a majority decision as part of the use general Data Protection regulations rules introduced in 2018 regulators can levy a fine for violations of up to 4 percent of a firms global revenue or 20000000 euros whichever is higher now the initial issue stems from a bug in twitters android app where some users protected tweets were made public and the companys failure to notify authorities in a prompt manner. And meanwhile facebook is already settling one multimillion dollar lawsuit over its illegal use of facial Recognition Technology while its other social media platform instagram was just slapped with another massive suit over the same issue both cases were filed in illinois one of the 1st states in the us to pass privacy laws that protect consumers from Invasive Technology legal journalist molly barrows contributor with americas lawyer is following this story and she joins us now to discuss 1st of all molly we got to get to the bottom of this whats the gist of these lawsuits. I know what theyre both over the same issue but these are 2 distinctly different lawsuits although you know instagram is owned by facebook so facebook just last month agreed to settle a lawsuit in its preliminarily approved for about 650000000 basically they were accused of using that facial tagging app to illegally harvest data and and collect it so they were sued over that theyre working on a settlement now in the 2nd lawsuit again instagram is the one facing this one and its pretty much very similar basically theyre saying that they used biometric collected biometric data using a similar face tagging tool and are collecting it in harvesting it both of them accuse the boat theyre accused of doing it without peoples permission doing it without their consent which is why they went to illinois because they have a law that allows them to do that and thats why both of those lawsuits were filed in illinois so its interesting there are some similarities to the suits but there are definitely different you know what are the concerns surrounding the use of facial Recognition Technology especially when youre not talking about Something Like infringing on your rights in a legal standpoint youre really just talking about the use of it inside of an app to what they would say makes an ease of use situation. Exactly and so thats really a big question for a lot of people that follow all of this gathering of tech for instance you know you go on facebook especially during coronavirus we saw a lot of people sharing and playing that game of. You know post your picture now and post a picture through throwback way back when of you in high school or when you were a kid and it turns out the more i looked into it that actually helps them gather their biometric data and if they can compare the way you once looked to the way you look now they can start to tell the differences the nuances and of course theyll sell that information is being useful and is like oh its easy to unlock your phone this way the facial recognition act is a security tool and we heard about you being used in airports and we certainly want to identify people that are on no fly lists so i dont think anybody really has a problem with the fact that it could be useful and helpful but the real problem is what are the big bigger implications as to how this data is being used theres so much of it technology is growing by leaps and bounds and they have found flaws in the system theres not a lot of federal regulation some people are being misidentified and theres biases inherent in the system as well i mean there was a study done in fact of they tried some new facial Recognition Software brand on members of congress and it miss recognize that actually accused of false number of the people that they studied as having been arrested and most of those that were accused of being arrested which they hadnt been were minorities so theres some inherent concern about bias being in this Data Collection and just not know enough about it so if you have facebook and instagram collecting all this data and supposedly using it for your convenience there are laws which is why they went to illinois the biometric Information Privacy act theyre much more stringent theyre saying hey we dont really know what youre up to but you cant do it without users permission unless they gave you permission thats a no no thats why youre seeing those suits file in illinois you know facebook has preliminary approval to settle the lawsuit it faces for 650000000. 00 and instagram could face up to 500000000000. 00. Dollars related to the other Class Action Lawsuit or fines like this is actually going to hurt the company. I think they look at it like oh what a shame you know really is just a fly on a wedding cake you know and im not sure that it really makes a huge difference in the legal bills are tremendous they continue to face other friends in different places. But you know they made 18000000000 facebook made 18000000000 in ad revenue in their latest reportings quarter and so i dont think 560000000 is going to be its just a drop in the bucket compared to what there are to making but it is one of the reasons actually that they ended up this preliminary settlement was settled with the court he said 650000000 they had to raise it another 100000000 because the judge was like look our law says you could collect up to you know 80025000 per person youre not even coming anywhere near that and anyway thats why the instagram Class Action Lawsuit the different one but thats why they could potentially rake in like 500000000000 because if they got the maximum amount thats provided under illinois law they could really rake it in but thats not what happened for instance in that other settlement with facebook that theyre agreeing to so they recognize that there is value to your data and so its just a matter of trying to find a number that is significant to the consumer but these companies are making so much money is it ever going to be significant or a deterrent to them if they are up to no good i had doesnt seem like a week you continually see this with molly barrows contributor to americas lawyer thank you so much for breaking it down. Thanks to. Time now for a quick break here because when we return the travel industry has been one of the most impacted by the covert 19 straight ahead we get some expert analysis of whats going on. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy. How. To sit down and talk. Were entering into this strange. Think about in the ninetys in the beginning of perpetual copyright. Copyright. Intellectual creativity is dead and. Now. The dynamism that would be new household creation is to a large degree. Money printing money and money. So we have this deadening of Economic Growth because the printing. Companies and banks alive so were burying ourselves in perpetuity. You just have to fly between 2 kinds of those phones. Too much to do with the. Competition in the extreme to have a specified route between the ones with the fastest time. But you should check your dish for the last little should be there really its where you live i. Mean. The world is driven by dreamers shaped by. The day or thinks. We dare to ask. And headlines this Tuesday Morning the diplomatic ride surrounding the sudden illness of russian opposition activist election of ali sees the kremlin paying off the terribly accused and despite the lack of definitive proof pressure is mounting on but little now to punish moscow buys ditching a major gas pipeline project bringing up to speed a lot and. Also in the headlines this morning saudi arabia commutes the death sentences of those convicted in the 2018 murder of journalist Jamal KhashoggiRights Groups are outraged noting those who ordered the killing on being punished at all. So cool thank you know if ya think