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Fly there bats 1500 species about 200 species have now been studied to some extent or another so theres a whole universe of trona viruses there has well as many other kinds of viruses that. Are part of the natural reserve war and is Corporate Law again an expansion of clear cut in and earn agriculture break down the barriers between you know a sunni animals of the rain forests around the world as we destroy israel for is were ever increasing the possibility the transmission of viruses and the possibility of new pandemics and you kind of imply there theres no cover up when no one else was conceived as concerned as you were the information you say was out there similarly were not being told now we live in the age of coronaviruses plural because why because theres no cover up but theres a structural. Well one of the things the troubled ministration did and in this country the attack on. Research on potentially pandemic diseases and in general one Public Health sort of the day or 2 is not your asian is he defunded. An american sponsored program there was an Early Warning system through the emergence of novel lyra says in diseases in china and in southeast asia. He also of course fired the team on the National Security council that obama had created in the aftermath of the. The blow of deadly ebola happy demick in west africa. To deal with a pandemic which it was universally agree. Was in the needs threat the United States some other countries i mean the warnings about this since. The beginning of the millennium have been constant the planning. Has been kind of their reports have been dancing to it but its suddenly United States it seemed your country and. Most countries of western europe are always planning came to not it was largely. Ignored and now in my country. President trout has who it is desirable on which is a medical spokesman name scott adlers hes a parks news commentator who exactly parrots the line that the trouble ministration expresses that a mass probably useless schoolchildren dont transmit the earth and to make the test change should be limited to only people in critically endangered groups travis a says things that he says off of the United States doing better and he certainly is doing better than theyre the United Kingdom on deaths per capita well in the case of britain i mean i think you know im. It is now obvious that a deliberate strategy of herd immunity. Was followed that the johnson government. Deliberately decided to minimize damage to. The economy by letting the disease essentially spread and the catastrophic failure of the u. K. Government. To come immediately to the aid of people in senior homes and. Nursing moms nyquist same thing as news sweden which explicitly. Dark did herd immunity and behind this there is a kind of. Would i would consider enormous new nazi. Germany as it were whole lies unworthy of light and the whole idea that some part of the population is sacrifice that will prove the greater good of the economy through credit diabolical right there well obviously we invite the swedish ambassador. To london and on the Program Sweden did say that they had made some mistakes so that it has any nazi activity and as far as transom they moved away from her the immunity and theres presumably going to be a Public Inquiry here as to what exactly british policy was but more systemically since you mention the economy rather than just talk about the preventative elements now we have that pandemic is are we to expect pandemics because of capitalism weve now seen. How rapidly buyers can be transmitted around the world but the point is that this resides a very old debate about Global Health and one side of it was focus soon. Is represented for instance the 19 twenties and thirties by the Rockefeller Foundation which was the largest financier of disease prevention of the global scale and within the British Empire and the rockefeller paradigm was not areaway campaign sargon as pacific at the german or as civic bacteria that. Passage of the nearest side repeating where if it is something social medicine which said that attacking the pathogen alone without attacking the poverty of the population the lack of primary care would always be a put side of the whole and this is could not be more true than. Today we see around the world and not only in court the teens who use public help pages. Have been ravaged to realign its generation but in the United States and United Kingdom were health care and Public Health authorities. Separate back their protests particularly out to the 2008 and economic crisis since visible and most here in the trades east asia. Has been an exception. Just some except for various here is reasons but in the atlantic not always. Will now see the price paid by conservative cisco policies and new liberal economics so you really think that its comparable thing in fact that of the 1918 spanish flu famously. Spread through the trenches its comparable to post 2008 infrastructural incapacitation after the bank bailout well there 918 example in ologies where he says handsome way but in 189090 new jersey people new world died of insolence and more than 20 orian died in india and in western india is the result of. Food elite grain picture and other policies that exported massive amounts. In ingrained 50 indian armies in the field through war. It was dissociated so food prices rose see people in india the same time there was a drought in a bad cholera epidemic sue had this huge plant relation. Who are people with compromised immune systems and i am bargain that in fact today we have to recognize that some in immunological standpoint well nearly 2 new manager hes in the u. K. Or the United States maybe a 5th of the art. Is immunologically compromised its not just because cancers and diseases but also because of malnutrition oh it is assumed sections like hiv but in poor countries in Subsaharan Africa and south asia and many parts of what merican. The majority of the population is 75 percent. Is in this position be gender of true. And demi i should say that they un special rapporteur who talked about increasing malnutrition after 28. 00 in britain he said it was a political decision the British Government denied that completely michael stopping that more from mike davis after this break. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confrontation let it be an arms race to have this on off and scoring Dramatic Development ali and going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful that a critical time time to sit down and tosh. World is driven by a dream shaped. Thinks. We. Welcome back im still here with the american scholar who for cost to global zoonotic li transmitted pandemic more than a decade in the hoff before coronavirus mike davis you say that in the United States where more people are being killed and the other the nation with the most deaths you believe the john bolton trumps that former National Security adviser is key to understanding why pandemic planning went so badly. Well boom its decision was to reorganize pandemic preparedness to fire the crack team that obama had put in place he wanted everything focused on on bio warfare but the larger phenomenon of course is trumps absolute obsession with destroying and dismantling everything that. The previous president of the put in. Put in place remember this regime came into power valley to destroy do fordable care or obamacare and is constantly tried to do things like take the budget or centers for Disease Control. If you look at this internationally you see that the lead agencies traditionally lead agencies in disease have been marginalized in the view issue as you noted totally marginal who all this center produces control of the United States has had a totally the marginal role in the European Union where they resist the protocol. For countries to cooperate in responding to transnational disease or seumas totally ignored so it has a driver ministration would say about macau had many critics left and right and that has many critics as well of of course but the fundamental problem youre with the job you is sure is it is structural this financial countries started pay their dues their w. H. O. Has become totally dependent. On aid coming from a handful of governments and from the former cerebral and history and from a few philanthropy well lets just go to the Big Pharmaceutical Companies because in this book you do talk about the role of private Health Insurance and Big Pharmaceutical Companies as being maligned actors i mean this pandemic way is that well the big pharmaceutical industries. Which are always represented as being the main sage towards earth to disease the heroic innovators who urge new vaccines and drugs they become anything but in the case United States and through 950 s. The leading force the development of an arbor arctics for instance was actually armed forces the u. S. Army there is an important state rule in other words. In the development of new pharmaceutical treatments put under big pharma. The the the profits are made in developing heart medicines or serious fruit erectile disfunction and old men like like me not in developing a new generation of out of the arteries and above all not in an eye virals and bank scenes which have to develop may only be used to. Once so big form of this cutback massively on on research and spends far more on average tyson and it just doesnt take any leadership in developing drugs and vaccines that are not highly profitable but absolutely necessary for Societies Home as you know they do devalue that they say theyre doing their bath theyre involved in a new Super National initiative against coronavirus just very briefly i did mention private Health Insurance he see that is symbiotic with us in october of last year. The council of economic advisers issued a report on our swap and demi. It is already seen as is imminent in it they point out and advise the president that big pharma will be incapable of meeting. The challenge of a pandemic prove precisely the absence of a strong profit motive in developing a nano by rules and in back scenes this is would every big pharma says essentially bit of knowledge by why the government or new cures might in egypt. Critics of big Pharma Private health care a chorus its led to new reasons of americans tens of millions of Americans Without Health Care and that number is dramatically increased to poor is as people have lost their jobs in july base. Health insurance in i think this Sanders Campaign really sent to skin was absolutely correct to put the universal health care bridge at the forefront of the campaign and then is actually massive support of you may think its a minority decision. What you hear on the news but survey after survey shows that a to 70 percent of americans just really want some form of single payer. Health care which of course was of course by reject that he wanted but in the book you also talk about the c. D. C. Is this not just all private bad the public the c. D. C. With such a reputation around the world for Disease Control in the United States and around the world they rejected the w h o developed covert testing kit that shocked you. Yeah it is it is shocking they also had another alternative which was the other test kit insists it is centrally 3 separate ters and they could eliminate the flawed 3rd tears and so had a viable so why would they have done the. Well thats a very interesting question they were defending true the problem with the chairs was it was actually contamination in their own production lines in georgia the c. D. C. Totally. Loses and losing through 4 weeks of testing. Allowed the disease to grow exponentially so marge who started off with a handful of tested cases by the end of march it was increasing exponentially or over. There were several 100000 cases of its continued to urge to grow hair in that the c. D. C. Is obviously we invite them on and there they say theyre doing everything by the board who also actually talk about the fame thing happening with the immunity test i understand but the p. P. A. Catastrophe you blame Jared Kushner and Vice President pat. Yes. And in many others earn including. Tony fauci who has proved liberal americans in fact are majority americans because the and the good doctor on this part talking in a truthful honest but found seat back at the end of 0 it was showing people absolutely no need so where were mass and he later admitted he views same as because. The drastic shortage of protective years through hospital were his decisions in nurses but the point is he lied to the American Public and this initial Publicity Campaign to discourage people from going out and trying to buy on a mass is said to her alone lansing in very bitter effect well thought out to fatty obviously a hero to liberal media played by brad pitt in saturday night live with the deny anything he did was against clinical procedure and best interests of the American People what do you make of the fact they dont no one seems to really be talking about Something Like factory farming we had dr rob wallace he was telling us about the relationship between factory farming and coronavirus why do you think thats just not the subject of debate about when it comes to coronavirus in Public Discourse in nato nations. That of course is in part made in the largest or the the problem with the Democratic Party and the ad measures it takes around issues of Public Health in the origination of the epidemic. Diseases because instead the endemic threat can be kind of triangulated 2. 00 to 3. 00 things one is factory farm and your bill is asian super sation of animals that maximizes. The probability of a viral evolution and then transmission the 2nd is the old still destruction of the natural or its there who traditionally isolated us from these enormous by rumors of wars. And wild animal populations but the 3rd part and the most important has been the constant reduction of public in basic help budgets. Across the world i mean many african countries only have a beer or some once of Public Service some why sierra leone not at all which is why the ball spread so rapidly a few years ago the in in western africa so each each point on their trying will have to see each side has to be. Addressed and into we see that in reinvesting in basic healthcare. Its the absolute a purty. Were going to see. To shoot and to mix. In a sense repeated vaccines are not the solution a weapon the solution how so lie on each of these 3 points of insertion lies to a ripple through the destruction truck wars in this investment in basic you know just very briefly america since you are speaking to us from los angeles and here are the greatest chronicler of it sir history i better ask even though tens of thousands upon tens of thousands are being killed in your country by covert what ever made of the air this incarnation of the civil rights struggle of black lives matter protests raging across the United States look after their niece and use in session to joe biden. Tens of thousands of young activist ideal words earth were basically lurked in the desert the. Toll the bully all you should do is going out there any it will militant boat and this rebellious generations since was saved by clients matter. And. Its been a. Movement i cant really think of it theyre all in terms of its Rapid Development who could have we let the question basic fundamental well question ans. About all these thing in the need to please a. It would have been put on International Agenda if you know to look for those who are seen on once in impossible so the black lights natter protests in addition to reminding us that civil rights have been under relentless attack for the republicans. For 2 decades or to create a template for resistance and a far broader scale one of the things that ive been most concerned is the rule of unions in. Chance to develop a new strategy to run a. New dangerous conditions. This essential work force and help workers its absolutely outrageous the other day. A report from the nurses. United National Nurses you sounded one 3rd of the nurses nicklin 3. You know access to this project. Here they should add to the end i need on my. Math so months later on stage months into. That program unit is yet to be sold well donald trump says hes protecting the most vulnerable mike davis thank you that fit for the show will be back on wednesday 47 years to the day the cia station in chile received guidance from black to establish contact with military offices to overthrow democratically elected president Salvador Allende in 911 washington back until that could save and join the other gravimeter credit instagram a facebook. Trade and investment to become magic spells to conjure economic development. Most people think about trade they think about services. Between countries and the in fast chapter of a trade agreement is about something very different but what when investment leads to toxic manufacturing that destroys sacred sites or ruins the environment. 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