Athletic heroes in this era of trump and black lives a model thats all going to. Work politicking on larry king the intersection of social justice sports and politics is a very hot debate Metta World Peace joins me for a one on one discussion of the topic former professional basketball star college star won the n. B. A. Championship in 2010 as a member of the lakers and was the n. B. A. s defensive player of the year in 2004 he is in los angeles better thanks for joining us whats your reaction to last weeks 3 day n. B. A. Protests following the Police Shooting of jacob legume can osha yeah well i think. It was of actually going to happen i dont think is one incident that caused the outbursts these protests i think is. Over the years tom its i mean to have it so you know i think we just need to get it together and figure things out so we can live comfortably together. Wanted to order the stragglers accomplish the and think well you know i mean im a big basketball fierce i dont really want to see basketball you know not being played but i think it accomplished just of course you know voice thats not normally heard you know on those circumstances you know a year of i think i did accomplish unity and hey you know we just want things to be different. Le bron james publicly and many do teams talking about being black in america is still treated 2nd class do you endorse that well i mean i guess we have different point of view from everyone you know so i mean very similar opinions i think it could be a little bit more effort given you know from you know a levy or you know officials you know just like you can be different programming in schools i mean i definitely have strong opinions about this shit one day but after some of the ins and outs of ron and some its different. The white house Senior Adviser and trumps son in law jared cushion reactance in the n. B. A. Strike by saying the players were lucky to be in the position they were in they could take a night off without suffering financially warningly what do you say then that you can repeat that question please are. You know jerry incursion said that the players could afford to take a night or 2 off because theyre in a financial position that americans arent in. I think i think the point was that money is not everything you know i think the point is you want to avoid collect voice obviously you know some things and i could be perfect but i just think that that was the point of taking the night off not necessarily about the money because so many people in america is rich. All are rich and you know everybody says that felons and everybody. John denies you give the magic took some heat in july for standing while the rest of the team during the National Anthem you have defended isaac and said you probably wouldnt have taken then me why not well the thing is this i always like to ask questions so you know if you know how it is how something happens on t. V. Things will happen yes if so any time i see something i always want to ask questions so for me. I probably wouldnt get it because everyone else did it but i feel like youre standing on the hill and thats that thats my approach but i get the message that i defy deference appointments ok what about those who say players should stay out of political areas social justice basically saying just shut up and play its not your area i dont agree with that because. A good long mean and no one must have one mission manali clinton would you put make it to bring you know let my you know son and smile become knowledgeable and you could be a smartass want to be there but youre i think the message. Be all you can be a leader you know youre asking for you know be multiple. What do you make of the players living in the bubble could you handle that well. I definitely could have handled living in the bubble you know it was. Its just so interesting it reminds me of Old School New york city basketball when you got to play you and theres another another team coming on and multiple teams arent a facility in the venue i think it had to be asked me. Out of love money and you think sworn to does handling the pandemic now i think. I mean i think they handled it pretty cool i mean we want to see sports and you look at the big athletes i dont think they can get affected by you know kobe so you want want to still have the opportunity to see sports and i think i want a really good job we cant have it were sports like not played on television. Would you have opted out of the season. I dont think i actually remember i want to see retire early i was 22 years old i was stressed out i actually call from our time it was just like you know everybody so different now i want to retire for Different Reasons that really but i think its just up to now i probably would not played it so i dont think ill want to just miss. Does the abbreviated n. B. A. Season take away from whoever wins the championship i think. I think this championship is going to be one of the most difficult championship because. You dont even really have Home Court Advantage if you lose the game its not like you can go back home right so those you can potentially get people being swept in there people are losing and theres no Home Court Advantage its really going to come down to ask because higher you know and well. What do you think in clippers they made him i mean road in los angeles cold fabers almost a witness i like to call a person you know i think the look was pretty organization. Great players you know lou williams on that. Well theyve got a really good team. There in los angeles and there can be a team here d i like and you know what but success to be played very well i mean you have a shot you have a legit shot. You know until you so many youve done a lot for you have been a remarkable 2nd magni has done so much for Mental Health awareness dont you feel led them to think that the public now has much more an understanding of Mental Illness than before and i think so you know back in may in the city. If you was to say you know you have an issue you have admitted on this i think media with it one supporter as much as they supported oh i understand the coverage and i think people have a better understanding and able to deal with it better and you just want to continue to be a part of that movement. You said that in the past you werent happy you were in a dark place and you can you explain what that was like. Yeah you know just. I think wanting to be number one i think also stress uncertainty of issues and i think thats what causes you know athletes to sometimes. Not you know go to a certain thing so i believe that. You know just those things make it stronger with us sean. Im really happy that i was talking about it. And it was good. The public by the way how are you doing i dont great you know just enjoying the skull they will account like a long vacation but you know trying to get through i mean what im going to ask the people who are together and know that it is a different time now but i think thats our whole image. Does it ever come back to haunt you metta on their periods in your life way to go into that dark place again. And im pretty happy. I mean i actually its some of support out there because so many people have gone through Different Things that weve gone through and i made was and we just support each other can be bent at the document was you know obviously a long time ago you know and all the laws that that those are those are doctors times and you know anything you dont personally its pretty easy compared to you know what weve been through just being in america but other than that everybody came and so if you have issues you know its not like youre back alone so you just get through it and you know the most important thing is to enjoy your days thats really really important you know you got a lot of help build and yeah absolutely absolutely along the way a lot a lot of help and actually a lot of support because youre the family the most important you know and i think i think it starts with the family and then it goes down you know if you need any extra help it you can always lean on the family and i think thats whats you know to keep people going and keep keep people strong and. The family is one going to raise a good future and thats what most important we dont always have that well you know sometimes you ashed up questions and you can find answers so what are you doing now will you in a business what are you doing right now im just home. Yes home and you know normally i would come down to check you out action studio but you know its on my own i mean i make it ready to do one professionally help session really well you know just making about number one to make sure the kids for this college and i got kids in college and high school so i think that thats the biggest profession. And in part you know you dont want to address exports is going to youre staying a bass more i really enjoy sports really enjoy the game and im just really excited now im able to once again you know i work with people i love basketball so i saw pretty much when they wanted the basketball application experts exports. Come out come find some games do you work with n. B. A. Players well. I did i remember when i let him be at one i was thinking about getting the financing and i was thinking about getting the my series 7 because i was always interested in that. And united decided that Digital Marketing but i did a. Management company got a pleasant m. B. A. But it just i dont it doesnt interest me at all and some of the company but i dont really get involved because im finding it doesnt interest me i just like to be around the games much possible. Met a great man i hope when together in person soon absolutely we get together again and all of nudist want to just generally been a really good friend a lot of times. You know best Metta World Peace will have more politicking right after this. Trade and investment to become magic spells to conjugate economic development. 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Welcome back to politicking we now welcome dr abdul siad to our program physician being the ologists Public Health expert hes a progressive activists and hes author of the new book healing politics a doctors journey into the heart of our political epidemic all right of the top doctor is it is this he will. Asked me and im a 4th look i think theres a lot of work that were going to have to do to be able to heal d the moment that were in you know the book i talk about this idea of an epidemic of insecurity. That has left us all anxious worried about the future driven by a systematic lack of a basic resources and it wont and on november 3rd just because of the outcomes of want to elections but its going to be a function of everything that we can do from november 4th onward to try and rectify the lack of access to basic goods Like Health Care and housing and i quality infrastructure and jobs that pay a fair wage that too many people are living without right now particular in the context of this pandemic and sebag to school tom what do you say to parents who are asking is should i send my kid to school. You know the hard part is a is that it is an answer that really depends on a lot of things that are individual to those parents and ill say this that in Public Health there is never one yes for no very rarely theres one yes or no but its a question of how much risk is worth the circumstance now in some communities where there are still very active Community Spread the risk of sending your kid back to school is a lot higher in communities where theres not very much Community Spread obviously its a lot lower you know is the school in the School District doing what it takes to prevent transmission in that school or theyre requiring masks are they you know improving the quality of their a fax system or are they doing as much as they can outside and then how bored is it for that kid to go to school and what are the risks if in fact they do get sick or someone in the family gets very sick you know some children are living in multigenerational households where theyve got really parents or grandparents who really could have very very bottom if in fact they got sick other kids need really specialized education that they can only do in person and i think for every family they need to weigh the risks against the needs and make a decision for themselves but i would always say that being able to make sure that your kid is wearing a mask at all times that that School District has a real plan around what to do if there is a case on how to prevent that 1st case from happening and of course paying attention to what the circumstances around school is and in the in the transmission and at around the community those are all really important things to do a doctor Top White House officials are urging the nations governors to persuade the heads of colleges to keep the students on campus even and in view of the band or do you think that sounds weird. Absurd look i im teaching this term at the university of michigan and you know i like to take my class fully online i really enjoy teaching and i wish i was able to do it in person but i also know that you know that for College Students the ability to learn online via Something Like zone is a lot higher than for younger kids and every day that we keep colleges and universities open while theres active spread on those campuses in particular we are increasing the risk for every other person who lives in that community and you know that means then that you know kids who really do need to learn in classrooms like kids in kindergarten or prek. Are not going to be able to do that and so you know Colleges Universities are not the most important institutions to keep open right now and its worrying to me that the seems more in line with a political agenda driven by the white house than it does to be aligned with science in the Public Health interest of the communities covered 19 has already claimed the lives of more than 183000 how much worse can it get. Oh i get a lot worse i hate to say it it could get a lot worse you know that there is no Silver Bullet to cover 911 a vaccine is not a Silver Bullet because of course theres a difference between a vaccine and a vaccination and we know that 50 percent of americans say that they wouldnt take a vaccine right now because the worried about the process that created and so it doesnt matter if you have to radically have a vaccine if people are not willing to take it so theres no Silver Bullet what we need to do is basic Problem Health we need to invest in testing we need to invest in Contact Tracing and the fact that were not doing that as a society particularly as we go into the fall schools open in Colleges Universities open and we move indoors because its getting colder outside the risk of a serious increase in transmissions as is always that we saw what happened over the summer and the last thing ill say is that you know when were worried about deaths in particular watching what might happen with concomitant flu increase could be really really serious particular for the highest risk. Of course are folks with preexisting conditions and and the elderly and so this is this is this is not a good situational walking into right now and it could get a lot worse and we have to remember that do you see any cause for optimism. Well we see cause for optimism larry. I believe that you know we got a choice about the leadership that we want and and i believe that if in this country we are willing to put science ahead of the political aims of a particular president if were willing to invest in basic Public Health if we are willing to forego some of our own creature comforts so that those who need to be able to get to be together to learn and in to engage in society if were willing to do all those things then we can keep this this this this virus that they look were at any time or within a month of vastly taking down the transmission but it has to be because all of us decide that were going to be a part of the solution so long as we have people who are trying to divide us and to politicize this virus were probably not going to get there but the fact that we can and the fact that we could make that decision the fact that we could stand up and decide that we are going to take this thing on thats always cause for optimism and im never going to give up on that hope what degree of confidence do you have in the pandemic data. I am confident in in the data that we have right now i worry that there is a lot of attempts at political interference but right now i am confident in the data that we have. That being set. The directions that this white house is taking you know taking that data responsibilities away from the c. D. C. And centralizing it with some corporation in in washington d. C. The impact that the pressure that they put on the c. D. C. To change guidelines their appointment of manure a radiologist who is you know a doctor focused on imaging a brain rather than a big epidemiologist or an Infectious Disease doctor as the Top White House advisor on covert 1000 these are all really worrying and so while im confident that the data we have right now is legitimate i worry always about the political interference with that data and that we all have to be vigilant particularly the journalists and the 4th estate to make sure that those numbers are real and that they can be depended upon because we need to know whats happening in our society with one of the greatest disasters in modern memory how weve been hearing a lot of the convalescent plasma as a treatment exactly what is it one of the pros one of the cons. So accomplice in plasma is a a portion of the blood of people who have had a cold the 19 and in that blood so its the part of the blood that doesnt have cells in it right so not red blood cells or white blood cells but in the blood there are a lot of other things including antibiotics and the the that the reasoning goes that if you give patients who are actively struggling with overnight some of that plasma that the antibodies inside of that plasma will be able to true and their immune system to go over 1000 and help them beat it now this is a treatment that is often used with different factions diseases its being used right now the question is whether or not the f. D. A. Should have given it an emergency use of youth youth use authorization because right now the data that we have to show that it is effective is really limited and problematic you know in science there are good ways of answering a question and there are not so good ways of answering question and the question of is this effective for reducing death and disease to code in 1000 has only really been answered using some of the not so great ways and we need to wait until the best ways of answering the question youll data and look at that data and make a decision and the worries here is that rather than following the science and the the best answers to that question there has been political pressure to produce a set of solutions we saw the president rush to extol the virtues of hydroxy chloroquine only to see that actually when we looked at that the a randomized controlled trials that it was not effective in fact the side effect profile was far worse in patients with over 1000 and so weve got to wait for the science and you know and so with with congress a plasma science is just not there yet in this is really worrying that were seeing the politics push the process rather than the sites the annual flu shot as it should everybody get one. Yes everyone who is indicated to take one unless your doctor tells you you shouldnt take one you should be taking a flu shot it is really really important to remember that just because colvin 1000 is the disease that were all focused on right now does not mean the flu has gone away and its really important that people do what they can to protect themselves from a disease that could make over 1000 far worse supposing you have had 19 do you still get the flu shot. So thats a question for your particular doctor to answer you know for most people the course of coven 1000 is is going to be self limited its you know youre the symptoms will go away and at that point its really important to your doctor obviously for people who are having a serious illness and theyre under direct medical care their doctors are the best place to make that choice but you know even if youve had a cold in 1000 which is the circumstance that most people are going to be and you should get a flu shot doctor of this is going to get worse how bad can it get. It could get a lot worse and i just want to explain why the best estimates tell us that in order to get her quote herd immunity the amount of sickness that we would have had to have is about 60 to 70 percent of people would have to be immune because they got that is hes the best estimates tell us that even in new york one of the hardest hit parts of the entire country the number of people whove had it are about 20 percent and on average across the country youre not youre looking at single digit percentages weve had 185000 deaths and weve only gotten to single digit percentages of people who have the disease and potentially are immune and even then what were starting to understand is they might not be immune because we have cases of people havent got it now twice and so that tells us is that if you had the had 10 to 15 times more disease think about how many more people would die but the good news is that theres so much more we can do basic Public HealthContact Tracing testing masking social distancing all of these things can bring the transmission down and i remain optimistic because at any given time were a month away from being able to tamp down the number of cases if were willing to invest in doing these basic things in Public Health so yes they could get a lot worse but also a lot better. Dugdale sayad thank you so much we always love talking to you larry thank you so much for having me its always a privilege thank you audience for joining me on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my Facebook Page or tweet me at came things and over get to use the politicking hash tag and thats all for this edition of politicking. She stressed to make sure that the british and the bill a bunch of. Us to. Stop question was to you she didnt taste the taste to shes happy so i pushed caution. Which she never happened and i know what you mean in our midst if you took a moment of me for shit. Or to talk to you short of yours or my its your bonus for each of you who did. It to mr ellsworth supporter. Put them to dr spiro for this interview but you believe that its a studio actually of course a person has to be vocal or should stop them spinning. Expressed she. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. 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