Why i might ask you whether there i am impersonating an interviewer interviewing you and how that how that is to do with the film its a deep question yes it could be you know might be an impersonator does it elitist possible to plough you into some digital interview with a likeness of you a real person so we we have to understand that representation of self even if you were yourself has changed with the digital age and in the way Family Romance. Has as a subject this question of performative things or fake fake news of performative appearance of people where youre meant somebody most of the people actually know exactly what they are doing they rent a friend when theyre in deep salvage the woods and they have a great afternoon with a friend they go out to the bar but sometimes. There might be a case where a change missing a father. Gets a rented father and doesnt know that the father they sent it so then its and its a deeper thing but of course make christmas how much is your last performative. Doing a conversation on the air youre probably talk differently than to your own family you play roles when we are in the military service of n. P. R. With our children so we adapt different voices different attitudes. Is it a kind of sequel to. Tokyo story not really that serious mention a film of bin ventus there in that case it was a documentary and there was a participant but its more about image making. Images that are wasted away that degenerated that handful that are dying out in they keep saying that since long time if you do not create adequate images for the state of our civilization being might die abject a dinosaur as. Because presumably people will say it charts a horrifying destruction of family life let alone Family Romance given that people are imitating fathers hurting feelings and whilst always being alone. Of course it points on some to excess tension solitude said we increase because populations are aging in all industrialized societies we have age and populations but its not only aging populations its also the internet itself experiment toxically pretends to connect us yes we are connected we are not isolated in solitude screwed deeper into the showroom the internet lo and behold reveries of the connected world indian web sequence actually didnt include it in the film places teenager who 15 years old who does true sounds and 200 texting a day constantly texting its totally amazing and i have never seen solitude s. T. P. Stet because all these 2200 trains and trace work she has never met in low and behold i think its evil musk that. Appears at one moment presumably you were joking when you said you wanted to go to mars on a one way trip no i actually im old enough to do it now. Now im just curious it points to a very very deep curiosity of course and orient it very well are you work status and. Im always depicted as adept at the lint jeopardizing my life but the life of everyone else is proof you said im very good in the assessment of risk. In proof that the prudent is set in i dont know send yourself feel not a single act of ethical turret but lets face it i do believe that his dream. To colonize mars is is something we shouldnt do i think its a mistake we should rather take care of our planet she and not make a planet out there hospitable which doesnt really wellcome us at all its 10000 times easier to colonize the bottom of the oceans for example than colonizing mars yes send out a few robots and maybe a few extra minutes for Scientific Research and get them back but do not go like the locusts. Greys empty our planet and then move on to the next one in Family Romance when characters do become conscious that they may be hurting people conscious of their impersonations conscious of the illusion they seem to think the only way out is a fake death. Yes that that is some sort of undercurrent in the film however the film shows and reality shows that the clients who rent persons to overcome desailly to replace a Family Member appearing awaiting us so they enjoy what they are doing of course some people thought that corona virus could bring society back together again rebuild it stop it being atomized do you think do you think it has helped bring society back together again very hard to make an assessment of the crack society but i know for example and family values become all of us and more important we look out who is really close to me who is really important so we go for the essential snow who are the real friends and. In facilities and the increase in a context with family and i increase my income tax rates may very best friends all the rest becomes an important electoral votes and work on things that are essential is essential if were if one is lucky to have them of course i mean youre in los angeles coronaviruses hit the working classes right around the world disproportionately worse and in fact class seems to have. Become an issue in l. A. Because of its intersection with race what have you made of whats been happening in l. A. Recently you know of course a Racial Disparities become very evident in there we have seen it before agreeing when you look at the prison population not only in california on the United States criminal justice is heavily based and i do believe that the Soul Movement of africa. An american being noticed maining their rights and being supported in having their rights is something completely necessary and over to you and i as a filmmaker and member of the academy. Just yesterday received a new nearly accepted members and its remarkable 50 percent almost 50 percent now of new arrivals into their. Women a huge amount of African Americans a huge amount of them. Was from. Trim other cultures like latinos and other cultures and of course also a lot of foreign us foreign film make us think youre not trying to get an oscar that by celebrating them because of course still people of color disproportionately targeted there what have you made of especially since you made that film about death row there being Court Decisions now allowing the resumption of executions in the United States well its. Something that is in the acceptable for me. And. I think it is. It is something which points to something barbaric. But its the last thing i can tell the American People may be pissed opinions because only can tell them i am against Capital Punishment. Because as a german i can not tell the American People cheneys people pakistanis how to deal with Capital Punishment and a prison war it asked me he said very urban why i got an activist against Capital Punishment i said no but i fundamentally against Capital Punishment tell me why whats your reason and i said i do not have an argument and do not have a philosophical argument however i have a star i come from a country that executed takings of thousands of people because. Its the regime against the barbaric regime of hitler even telling a joke on hitler could cost you live your life in addition to the 10s of thousands of people executed because of a severely retarded or insane they were not worthy to live 3rd in addition to that genocide an industrialized genocide of 6000000 jewish people end of story. If you really understand since its anything its a good argument its a story when i stop you there more from the legendary filmmaker after this break. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its Crazy Foundation let it be an arms race based on often spearing Dramatic Development only personally im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk. On the long haul. But just. In this context the moment allowed him to ask for the last company and seeing and on the day to day for the rights promotion commission. Branching just shoot on disk in the. Ocean coming up the long. Reach of mom. You know new car so said im not going to much to me mama its just the back yeah and. Welcome back im still here. One of the greatest filmmakers of all time talk its actually 75 years since the end of world war 2 if youve been watching i dont know whats going underground but i thought he was covering the russian involvement in the 2nd world war surprise that certainly here in britain it was churchill who almost singlehandedly won world war 2 and and here in the United States is american g. I. s who won the war but of course. We are completely and utterly aware that. Russia lost 25000000 people from winning the war and i know that russian troops. Whether once who liberated consideration camps absolutes in the us and. Where theres an. Incredible sacrifices. On the side of russia and i do believe that. Its ignore it because of crisis of political interests its very much a question of what are the facts maybe 600 ourselves 1000 american soldiers lost their lives in the 2nd world war 2526000000 russians those are facts that cannot be ignored and today its not that important what really happened its worth dressin who owns the narrative who owns the narrative and occupying the narrative has created some sort of flux and he did. Ideologies and looks at it the information that we see every day i dont believe that the demonisation of russia is a very very big mistake they think statues a part of a narrative i know that theyre tearing their statues theyre they are attacks my understanding of history. Its different i think we should be aware that we are historically formed and we are formed by mistakes and we are formed by. What the past is history doesnt and keep history it doesnt function by erasing the trauma case history doesnt function by talking good money immense but users if you dont treat it very good you support the toppling of the statues of hitler in your country of your birth. Yes but but its i think of course in the spouse because insignia and all is fine yes however in favor of very much the publication of hitlers main comfort his. His writings to date we have a new edition of it in germany just banned for a long time now days a new edition and you only can buy it with very faint and rotations historians who point out what was the consequences of this statement of hitler what was the consequence of this or that like that paragraph in the book so it notated of course another element of the black lives matter protest has been the call to defund the police has been criticised here in britain what have you made of it especially since your great film left hand and bad left hadnt you painted a very grim picture of your Justice System that. Well its a movie style its a shame it doesnt have to to do much with police addressed to do it with some sort of Prince George of movies and shark a parasitic magic characters and all that but i must say my experience with police here in los angeles has been very pleasant in the i do believe that only a very very small fraction of american police. Is rotten and acts in a way that shouldnt it shouldnt be it needs to be reform thats obvious and say no to defunding it completely and replacing them with boy scouts or vigilantes who would be stupid it doesnt function like that but of course the United States as we say on this program of them in prisons per capita more than stalin or mao yes i see all this and i notice all this not in the business of america bashing america has been very good to me and i see this as somebody who is a guest here in the country i see of course all the deficits and i try to do my best and try to. Speak out whenever there is an occasion to point out things that are overlooked i know that in the past you have said how los angeles is an amazing place because of the cultural power it exerts right around the world is it losing any of that today or is it still there. I think it is still there because the things of great importance of great significance normally originate in in california and i mean the computer say internet started here in los angeles by the way the collective streams of the world in cinema hollywood which is not my cup of tea but we have to remark important things also the silly things like aerobic studios and yoga assist for 5 year olds and so all the silly things that they have repercussions around the world they normally originate from here very few other things come from other cultures muslim fundamentalism is not code for me im born and it comes from yemen and egypt and pakistan and saudi arabia theyre obviously Weapons Companies in california that affect those other countries from where the is them is im comes from i suppose i mean do you notice any more a greater progressiveness in california regardless of trump happening in california right now a resurgent like max and i think it is yes despite of trump california is doing ignoring much of whats coming from the Central Government and its inoperative and its bold for example electric cars tesla car as they come from coming for india the rockets mutes in race and probably this week on advertising on mask throughout this interview. I mean i also you mentioned the academy they gave the top oscar to a crazy marxist film parasite by. Oh is that tastes changing and becoming. Well or like more like your tastes. As opposed to the hollywood blockbusters that i know you dont like. Well the academy here has stunning astonishing seeing sint among others the korean film terrace 8 winning it. And its internationalizing of course. Heavy me in tollywood is in a way opening 2 films from other cultures that desperately trying to open to china desperately trying to open to to india to india but its because of the size of the markets too early though for any amount of patient of Indigenous Peoples youve always made Indigenous Peoples a feature of your films they have actually been hit by coronavirus disproportionately yes. Thats catastrophic in u. C. D. In brazil for example. And. Yeah of crisis it has has been very much from my mind and it strains my wife who actually was supporting me and the urals in your country and. For us in our region she has done an oratorio called last risk is composed of languages that are already extinct and languages that are critically endangered where theres only one or 2 or 3 speakers left and of course i have paid attention now if very 10 days we are losing a hold spent with what happens if we lose question no more tolstoy no merkel calling no no not to no one to. Know which i cough skeet and its catastrophic how Indigenous People are wiped out and how their cultures are disappearing and now because of the corona virus they are one of the most endangered. Groups that we have out there and of course this in the context of deforestation which has been linked to coronavirus you often talk about your Jim Anika Amrit it is there a chance that we are living through a via my germany type period as as you then just talked about the extinction of entire societies of languages of while while we all watch celebrities on television. Its not easy to connect to the right to the confusions of the right my era and in the repercussions in the results of all these very stable times but. Yes i think previous shaking to a deeper core of a normally. Because it has affects every persons. Lifestyle in a way looking much more into late middle ages the peak lake trains. And how it happened there are for example a re read. That danielle to fellows journal of a plague of the plague in london. In the 1600s its an incredible how he describes that a. Week trial destroying outside of parliament in london with no other racism in defo it did actually do well in the bestsellers just as coronavirus was a thing but im going to ask because i mean we cover it here yemen the worlds worst humanitarian crisis the war is havent stopped despite the un secretary general asking for it during coronavirus why do you think the media is at fault in covering conflict you said in lessons in darkness about the fires in kuwait i had the feeling that this looked really awful and it was just a media way to deal with it and i felt i should do it much better what what is it that can be brought to the subject visually and experientially that the media just isnt well. At the time and made the film about the failures of kuwait it was in the news in 10 seconds snippets in little clips every every evening but i thought there was something much bigger big show had to be done because its not only a put it a political component in there the bad guys of Saddam Hussein started to fire since and i thought it was speaker it was a crime and not only a political crime it was a train against creation itself against the meaning of creation and they made a firm where in a way firmed it was. Imagery where you cannot recognize our planet anymore every single image is as if it were shot on a catastrophic different planet somewhere out in the universe and yet we know its our planet try to to do a deeper approach spent. Back to what youre saying about yemen the situation in yemen this is highly highly highly complicated and complex its not just simply a proxy war between east and west in saudi arabia and your chest name it its very very complex and im not a pundit but i see what is happening and to see what is happening and and i think it is catastrophic it is catastrophic in it has to be nearly approached all vies a stand on what interests what the interests of the others what other interests of saudi arabia what are the interests of the western community what are their interests on the ground on the ground its a catastrophe and it cannot stay like that now as we face all the implications of. Films youve made arguably your new film after Family Romance i will say which is opening up here i understand is about extra terrestrial threat to this world even though as we often cover here its threatened arguably right corporations by military contractors and thought tell me about what fascinates me tis well theyre fireballs coming at us and they had a lot of repercussions in culture like for example in history for example the blackstone at the southeastern corner of the car park in mecca is with all probability a meteorite at least a millennium before the prophet mohammed introduced islam big events that have. Hit us a mysterious into a big event she should look in the yorker termit been insular a crater 200 kilometers across 65000000 years ago that wiped out. The dinosaurus and almost all life on the planet and attached we have to we have to be aware to take the energy of hundreds of millions of hiroshima. Maybe even thousands of millions of. The amount of energy hiroshima bomb packed and these things can happen again of course when i talk thank you. Thank you thats there for one of your favorite shows of the last season will be back for you see is going to come in the 5th of july tried to show you tube you dont miss an interview and join the other guy but hold off for the facebook its a grandmother say say. It. Has changed Many American lives but pharmaceutical companies have a miraculous solution. Based drugs the people who are chronic pain and believe that their opioid prescription is working for them on the remedy be sent to to the price that they pay closer dependency an addiction to opiates to long term use that really isnt scientifically justified and ill study actually suggested that the long term effects may not just be the absence of benefit but actually that they may be causing long term. One else so its seemed wrong all right old roles just dont call. 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