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You in particular have been talking about in merging work and private life as a major social in a labor trance for quite some time i think you got to have a little theres a. Yeah and im sorry to say but its reached its. Unexpected average you with this onset of south isolation i wonder if you have had a chance to adjust well on the on how do we ave a privileged people hey academicians so we used to leave this way before it was mainstream on tao the have its evident that its not normal and that he shouldnt conceive it shouldnt be like that surprising thing for me was not how easily i have adapted so there was nothing i said that to but rather the opposite saying i suddenly realized oh maybe i should have known it before this social component of social sciences i was always so much against talking to sorcerers or using inside information i was always saying that its all out there in the open source says you know official documents but now i see that there is this thing and thats not Insider Information but this is being in the atmosphere with their people and institutions you spread it visiting the evil they ask usually bad that used to be so cancelled so such a long time once you are deprived of whole days youll begin to perceive how the quality of your work deteriorates well i hate to break it to you we are social species and its their lives to bookworms like yourself just as much as to everybody else now i heard me say a couple of years back that work especially a fulfilling work wearing down drinks not just income but other crimes of great vacation will one day become a luxury and i think that nowadays any kind of work is actually actually a privilege especially coupled with a monday to restrict actions on social and mobility how much longer do you think states around the world can afford to maintain that no god. The mountain the world has an interest in keeping its citizens locked up so they know that their virus will go but this still rules and restrictions will remain i think its a bad scare idea the governments of the world are very much interested in lifting this restrictions but they are evidently and reasonably doing this in such a way as to provoke another wave action i think we show worry about the oncoming level of poor see that will be faced by millions and millions of russian citizens and people all around the world this will be there for really. A restaurant sounds coffee shops will come back our services will revive but some jobs lost will indeed be a lost forever to those people who. Are the advantages of working for the state evidence right now because these people receive their salaries. But was the stain your pro period will be over this advantages will not be over this state has been primary job giver in russia since well since since a long time ago but. 14 and the number of people directly or indirectly and debts owed to the state for their Cell Research has grown it will likely grow even more because other. Workplaces will be scarse and this is not a very good saying well at the mill state is it is in a good shape right now and regardless of dire political system and i would claim that this is perhaps the most consequential catch 22 situation when there are simply no easy solutions but i also see a lot of a lot of distance down building up around the world and the notion that this day around the world with a. Very very few exceptions what prioritized how considerations off a very limited group of people and were talking about 10 to 15 percent of the population who this virus of about only die how considerations would be prioritized over Everything Else given where we are right now gee think it was ultimately a good call on the part of a very just to you know to these people and how to spell and ignore Everything Else dickless and they arent of the day this is an issue of priority everything has its costs and can be the judge lists all the governments of the world being acting in a remarkably similar manner as you now it is no matter whether their democracy is all talk process and this for Political Science this has been one of the remarkable things to watch and to analyze the matters have been very much similar even bill is just lace them and the neck and the poor employed during this weeks crisis has very large similarities so its not the question also although courses being more a factor in a democracy has been more effective instead of the question of a rerun being in the same. This similarity rather should tell us that it is so diverse governments have the reason for acting like they act even its so great an economy and what would be. The cost. Well. I heard the same before that the reason the wide you know states around the world were compelled to behave that way or to react the way they reacted was because of the appreciation in the value of human life and i take a major issue with that because the save lives of obit 9000 patients a likely to come and the cost of many other lives were talking about you know other patients who are randy able to travel well lifesaving treatment abroad were talking about. Domestic abuse which is likely to have increased over the stressful times were talking about people who lost their livelihoods or mental how because of a deal when you look at the human cost of both the andranik and the response to it comprehensively is it really such a humanistic response isnt it actually saving some and more safety in the other we can ask people for long term consequences because were going to have we dont know what would this situation be enough there were no restrictive measures and act as a whole imagine. Then it all go away and. We dont need to imagine that you can look at. The example of sweden and it is clear that at this point the number of fatalities. Is slightly higher but its not overwhelmingly so i mean we have some indications that these you know case in areas that many people were painting and many scientists were painting and submitted to the government it may have been overstated i guess i kind of does a touch of that medical specialists are even specialists in economy but i must have an issue with a swedish example dont ease not conscious that did nothing about that and what im is a country that did not employ legislative restrictions on its citizens until speeches all School Restaurants in stockholm are as a misleading their words and government will advise people to stay at home and a lot of them did. Sure also connected to the fabric of social life another country says different from the conference so they do have a kind of course but its a common day so its not its not obsolete i agree with you but its far more did very response down the blanket ban that was imposed are. Recommended in some countries now when i was thinking about it you know what he into my mind is the culture of this socalled phenomenon safe it is and that we see in some u. S. Colleges which creates a moral hazard for College Administrators to overreact to every complaint from a student and we ultimately imperils agitation and Critical Thinking and i wonder if together with this common 1000. 00 pandemic were also witnessing the outbreak is all departed governments when they think that its better to be saved and story even though distraction you know made us say. All right you know to say for a while also just read on story about on the kind of consequences that that calm. But when i was saying and continues to say that this measures are on the. As did the consequences they had high value of human lives i was talking exactly about that there is a dark side even to a little higher cost of human life because even poses it imposes a certain duty on any public government so it can just say lets let life go on as a did for the sick will get sick somebody will die will try to help those women who will lead or not with the business as usual that isnt possible they need to share that they take. The good in addition you feel on your even if this is costly. Rationally but then thats the only outsider i feared i dont have time including on the russians they dont channel this kind of argumentation but we know that this is a highly discriminate its a virus it goes primarily after people with preexisting conditions do could likely be sick and that you know type 2 diabetes is the prevailing disease among the population and i dont understand i havent heard anyone are really clearly why do we have to isolate everybody bring the economy to a halt instead of isolating this is to decrease the population at least have a higher chance of and in that ending up in the Emergency Care units as opposed to everybody else who has either very slight or no symptoms that told you im a very wrong person to put this question to but what i say. The circumstances lets watch the consequences thats what were social site is do lets wait till the end of the war on time measures and see how they call an eerie bounce in the healthy economy of a rebound maybe quite speedy and that will will say thank you to it is democratic and then on the credit government that you learn to trust your actions that killed elasund. The human cost. Than everything came back normal effects of this will serve as a kind of excel. Right search to an economy crisis or in the context of nation that has already in all its wake thatll be a whole different thank you jesus christ we are in that you know kind of and all that and all the best all we do know how of a virus but we also know how. Economics the nation for a little devils they have before and we shall be im president of oil prices crisis which has not even began to take real consequences we will see for example a sequestering all solid federal budget we will see the budget deficit and will see if there are necessary inevitable cutting off spending of budgets or risk and if the party melon society as a whole is expecting their well takes a how well you could do before you turn into a full fledged prophet of the our callouses lets take your very very sure that i do know this not only because the we have seen this things before we have some right that if you want some real article or take process you used to i could name a few names. So here you are people thats what you need. So i am getting very noticed. I will definitely be interested in exploring the spill but after a short break lets take a moment but we will be back in just a few seconds. To what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confrontation let it be an arms race is on offense be very Dramatic Development the only relief im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk. As the u. S. Economy was booming growing numbers of people were made homeless. You can work 40 hours a week and still not have enough to get housing and everybody believes america still is the land of opportunity the reality of those who were not financially equality and the lack of Affordable Housing for a living minimum wage gave many people no choice you know just been a problem with the city goes to get rich on the whole to stay way out of homes and whole to subsistence words if there is no answer because yes the records resources of the most vulnerable were abandoned on the streets to become invisible to us. Welcome back to worlds apart from the keep it in the song in that russian political analyst economic just before the break we were talking about how common 1000 is a highly discriminative virus which primarily goes to people with preexisting conditions and speaking specifically about type 2 diabetes and its a ball of disorders i think at this point it is absolutely clear that they. Are definitely earning than it otherwise would have been and even before the spread of dynamic at beast kind of diseases south late in d. C. Disease is also a lifestyle well radie bankruptcy public how care sector is in many countries because of their old bowling costs for example just in the United States theyre in the federal budget goes into medicare and about their debt medicare it is child diabetes now the question i want to ask you is about the prevailing social norms. Chardin which tree house as our personal issue been down to a sustainable social norm at a time when society that expected to make such dramatic sacrifices to treat these diseases that are easily preventable we do not know the virus goes off so we have a lot of data but its data so far will be able to fully judge only when its over and 2nd i would not describe any disease as its looked at although of course there is a connection between the old way of life and the way of sealed as also genetics. Inclination or does inclination towards a disease so its not a thing you can blame a person on for having having made though those 2 of those deployed 2nd procedure your original questions about the this specific type of privacy and this is our this is very interesting thing and this is my kind of thing because its social and its political. By a policy or by a politics of the way the state or society through all the needy all the lords and. Interferes so on direct your physical. What things are and what. Doing. With your body what was a body off your loved ones with your children how far can a parent judge for example when to look to vaccinate the child full before that always be in all of this general liberal drop off are my body my decision and if ringback i harm myself a way of making this decision if yes again its not wrong its melting isnt the fear with me society even liberal society made as tall as their chav parents relations course 4 on the one hand. A we perceive the family as at last as safe privacy at the same time we as a society cannot tolerate the full parental power over a child the power of other from merely a small aroma base as we do interfere society and legislative systems interfere but it comes to you face all development where this jail house now this is the logical say for to is perceived as a kind of probably good to be defended by the force the full force of the lawyer forcing states its interesting how this changes will develop but where we may be sure the thing will develop maybe we will see for example for moments a risk in Public Places as a customer if as we have now those states its a restrictions on the measured service and now where we got years during the last 20 years that reading search error search oh yes we girls will strain. The airports at any public location maybe well see the same kind of range that will measure our got a temperature or maybe you are an arab by the way because this is one of the. Major factors risk factors allo still diseases including call it 98 its a major risk factor it is by weight what you put in your bio. Is not going to be on li your decision is or isnt going to be at least inquire the matter of society because and the end of the day you ask a society to pick up the bill for your damage how in later years well you may recall how the number of scandals rob so its a recently about high prices for airplane tickets 14 waiting over. Actual grams and it was it was a whole host of. Public questions whether companies have the right to charge a high price is what its such a thing with its discrimination and now its that that was an innocent debate in the. Us so. That the question the real question is the question off policy measures how do you. Things that you think beneficial for society and people who are waiting more again as sort of a. Cigar or do you know if you teach him Healthy Lifestyle and teach every a school child to cook for example and in this way you try to make us a science you. May be the what the line between the line between christmas and democracy even make it into a distinction between the talkers in democracy as any other me know that democracy is on base from the most. Paralyzed i mean the challenge of raising the United States from called it like to these the highest in the world and its the highest in the states with the highest rates of obesity and i heard you say recently that consumer is richest darry directly related to the consumerism is here just a comment 19 is going to is not going to kill it and and the sun just consumerism is a sick mix of well likely and perhaps mentally. Compromised individual that requires a lot of services when we talk about the value of human life is that to really be conduct live that we have to cherish that me ask you aspire to protect we dont have the United States which means a lot spends a lot on how care is on the verge of bankruptcy how carries on the verge of bankruptcy because its not sustainable there are doctors who are talking about dementia as types read i mean. Yes because many diabetics go on to develop dementia and if you imagine you know this whole population of diabetics and people who are children will have to take cheryl i think its a question of intergenerational you know solidarity and sharon its why should our children take care and pay for our excesses you imagine i always children the general generational. As just this is the sort of very Healthy People who want have any disabilities themselves and our children are the beneficiaries of this society which allows people to survive which helps people with various sorts of disabilities to adapt to the comment parts of society so we cant be going back to a spark and since you feel when youre born. With a 100 percent says that theyre not going to be can also go unchallenged notion of personal responsibility and stating that you owe your own good how to not only to yourself but also to society because at the end of the day basis and easily preventable problem you know we can talk about authoritative societies but not authoritarian can actually control what you put into your mouth its only now control if it ensures very where you you know like you change a lot of money both to you and the state and also make people understand that this understanding who youll meet and dk tional program not as system off fines and on the police measures that was my point yes the society is going to be why and what diverse also in terms of house and sounds of your name were not going to change that were not going to have an area of the blong healthy young people away are going to have a lot of people on that a healthy young. They are. Also citizens at best they are sound workers they contribute to society and they demand some things to. Aside from the side but they also contribute so this is the reality we are going to lead and were not going to make everybody house but we have as you say makes a sides have by by as i would say educating them i would very much argue in favor of changing did occasionally programs even gardens and in schools the younger of the children the better we do not teach them enough well we dont teach them at all meaning. Of its functioning well theyre all the body and the importance also as you say what they put you know their house i think i just think that every chance should be taught to cook and every chance will be to what what is out its what and what is not and what is jock for what is should years and what you should avoid we are now and very we have and were all based socalled stay at home regime which is not real obligatory been in the oven in a everybody and many people seem to comply with it i wonder how disciplined you are in observing the city hall recombination. I strongly suspect of being disciplined is rather crude alleged being able to get severe disability or to be able to comply is rather privilege than a virtue i can do that i have. To i have some how i have certain resources which do not make my situation materially tragic so i can enjoy having my children with me and they can study alive and we have enough devices so its not something that i did buy my own bike and accept ourselves and i can do all that i can imagine people with different jobs bus drivers to share who are carers medical workers cannot able to comply with this restrictions so im sad for all that and i will and ill be able to do this for a few more weeks even is necessary to my own house and for the general wellbeing of society like everybody. I do hope it will be over and like everybody else i will be even more thankful when i will be able to meet my students and their son because the conference is all very well but its not teaching well it is teaching but its about 25 percent of what it should be i do know how to see that they have the will come back. And then just a day and id be able to come to do your studio and you know there are some instead. Theyre looking forward to it but before you say i advice let me ask you one more question because if you know conversation its the russians it is complete without quoting our great quote from their pushkin who. Once when he himself was under quarantine of the milks where worse down cholera even though he himself turned out to be very productive his own seclusion unlike what here are i dont think were going to try to any problems. Well thats actually my question of whats your personal recipe a young be apathy abby a senior that so many people are complaining about these days and isnt that one of the challenges of. Isolation a regime that faggot people live regardless of their circumstances theyre struggling on the mental and psychological. Wistar of our conversation with me saying that theres a quality of intellectual work although its so boring to do all but the quality of until actual work is going down in the absence of a societal compact a so what we know yes will we just suffer and the product. Offers consequences what i do is i think what the everyone else is doing i try to get my scan you know place i had my Google Calander we sure as my life so i try to go to bed at a reasonable hour work i even started doing some sort of exercises which i never did so i have seriously does all this kind of thank you know what i do i skip it is actually happy for her responsibility it is they see you have to keep your immune system in a good shape once your cache of the virus runs near me and probably at 19 other seriously you old you i dont care youre enjoying i actually do it out again having my family are around me is it great how our children seem to enjoy the extra day dont have to go to school and they have to experience with that so they seem rather to like it as if they like something a battle we cant cure. While you can tell its always a great pleasure talking to these kinds of isolation is doubly so thank you very much for being with us today thank you and then hell hold watching so they haue beene take care of your sound friends help the syrian dance next weekend. For her. Dark hair. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to get out of the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you there. I dont know crap. No shots. Actually felt. No place to. Which your thirst for action. Huge antigovernment demonstrations are still being held in the belorussian capital thats off to last weeks contested president ial election which saw a longtime president Alexander Lucas shane koch secured a 6th term in office. This person has been in power for 26 years hes clung treat with his teeth and doesnt want to let him go. Meanwhile probably look for saying for rallies have also taken to the streets today in support also beleaguered president. 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