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And so dangerous then the stories came flowing on television and we tried to call friends some went to see some went dead many were wounded houses were destroyed lives were shattered and it is absolutely understand that its a catastrophe this is anything short of a nuclear bomb that has exploded in the middle of beirut. One cannot describe what has happened corson i live throughout the war ever since that is that of the 5 ive heard explosions of blue to it but none as bad as what were going through right now because of. The plagues of egypt at scummy one on top of another and we feel that google hits rock bottom and we keep on going further and further it will horror. On the economy to work over the 19 to cultural or political or. Financial banking crisis and now this and it seems like were dont need to have were commemorating the 75th anniversary of the u. S. Nuclear attack on hiroshima or an initial eyewitness accounts from the explosions and it looked like hiroshima would have you make of the fact that President Trump very soon afterwards said that his experts were telling him that it was a bomb that it was an attack he qualified it a day later by saying. The question is very much open whereas everyone else is saying this was just corruption something that i know that youve been fighting for many years in lebanon its nothing to do it cannot be a an attack by some adverse 30 options are open for the investigators what is certainly the basis is an absolute case of corrupt. Criminal neglect negligence is what has been the basis for and if. It is an acceptable unbelievable that so much so many tons of dangerous material could be stored for more than 6 years in the port of beirut without it being managed in one way or another now that is a crime on and by itself and lebanon now that is i think in the the immediate process somebody are dead we need to care for our wounded and search for our disappeared but i think that the next step is looking for the people responsible for this mess but whether or not this explosion was caused by an accidental fire or by criminal fire a 11. 00 or another source makes us go into that 2nd phase which is now taking the country into a big political and legal basis fashion yet there is there is anything quire but if sorry to interrupt there i mean one professor of a an organic chemistry u. C. L. Said you need an ounce of explosive material to blow up a ton and this is 2700 tons so its very much open as as President Trump says but youre talking about this is stemming problem that i mean major nation media appear to be saying the same things about your country that they did about syria i dont know whether its right. For intervention i mean the ministry of defense here said armed forces are now working with the lebanese government all your work and all your time spent fighting corruption over the years do you think that western governments or the some governments may see this terrible calamity as a chance to recoup some validity after their attempts to overthrow assad in syria and send completely different political and. Constitutional regime in the masses then do the whether the goal is this fact the lebanese political system is is is tenable in on by itself lebanon is unfortunately has a Democratic Society with Democratic Institutions but reality is that we are all darkie that the system we keep or are using religious divisions to maintain its control or the people that were turned into plants and this is a semiconductor is is going through all of the political spectrum and would probably exclude a very small minority of leaders that have not been engaged into that only ghar kii is funny earlier what is happening its funny youre saying all that a president after told his program told me exactly the same thing about lebanon i want to ask you about the big elephant in the room arguably because here were hearing that israel is offering aid trying its best to help lebanon and israel and always the implication try to help what did you make of the israeli politician more chief reglan claiming he felt cheerful looking at the scene of the explosion in beirut this joy was gifted to the israelis by god on the occasion of the jewish holiday of love you know its totally preposterous and certainly unacceptable one need not to forget that lead. And its at war with israel dan rather say that israel is a poor lebanon. For for us longer to back and remember my being a child and to my adults who are now as i have gone through parliament not out of parliament it hasnt changed lebanon has all what israel says israel says it is protecting its safety and lebanon may see itself as a stage of war against israel but israel says its protecting its isms by what it does in lebanon well anyone that will follow or reality will with very good that is the very the other way around lebanon has been the victim of more israeli attacks and it becomes many on the computer and the history book or any newspaper that is not biased with the you that israel has always been the party that has attacked lebanon if you have those that is not the way the media see it here the media see it here and many policymakers think tanks and ball additions that israel is the only democracy in the middle east youve just clearly said lebanons democracy doesnt exist it is israel protecting the values of human humanity or justice and so on its fighting for them even put a flag of lebanon in tel aviv we know all too well these arguments that israel is the only democracy in the world or in the beach in the middle east that is certainly nonsense because any any person within israel itself will tell you that maybe israel is a democracy for the jews but for the arab citizens its an occupying by the out of territories and its been in violation of every single article new rights on the books but this is very good and very good at. The moment. The image it wants of itself as being the victim we level. Consider that they are the good liars we are the David Fighting that blight in the region theyre the Strongest Army and the region poppy and one of the obvious armies in the world and now what they are julie fight he is fighting the only the only military force that defeated them which is hezbollah and hezbollah is the elephant in the room so the issue is that conflict within the region between iran saudi arabia the us and russia and really israel and hezbollah lebanon and lebanons people are upping the cost of of this fight but must never forget the that the that israel and going back to any book in any magazine any real. And in your space for reporting accurately facts israel as always been on their back and from not on the defensive when trump said so quickly afterwards that his experts and presumably that includes some of the biggest intelligence agencies on earth that it was an attack that it was a bomb media here immediately started talking about hizbollah bombing its own city of trying to draw connections with the un tribe you are all on the hariri assassination immediately we started hearing reports in western mean here about russian ships from georgia containing Ammonium Nitrate what do we have to be wary off with in the immediate aftermath of this catastrophe this ridiculous i mean not know one of the killed ones own people and been as many she says they were christians and so now that we can lie by the blood. The only thing that lebanese are considering right now objectivist speaking is that it comes on the basis of our fault of the lebanese administration. Cat that many phones are they just a deal with it abort more than 6 years but how this was that the neighborhood whether by and by an act of these raised or by an act of of the say the rather than god is something to be determined not by the investigation this is why most people say that they dont trust the look of news station or its own investigation because they have me want to whitewash their that are only sponsibility of the administration. Let me let it get any of that yes this is coming in the back to all of that be iran saudi arabia israel through his bala. Let me also tell you that as many lebanese would like the army to be the only military. Capable of leading weapons in lebanon and lebanon should up its own very strong army irrespective of whether hezbollah is capable of do we work against the israelis or not that doesnt mean that hezbollah in any anybodys mind with all the beirut just to consider that it was is are just that and in reality nobody even has not claimed that israel has at all. Theyre looking for that its within lebanon all both israel and hezbollah both want to go into a war and they have been evading all flee or direct conflict both the israelis and hezbollah for the past several months just calling their sums themselves names but never get to the act of waging a war against each other in all of these terrorist attacks that what happens in the real victims of the people of lebanon and thats what makes me extremely extremely sad ok were obviously we invite hizbollah and the israeli ambassador to london on the show both hezbollah and israel deny any involvement in the explosions love to talk to you by the reconstruction of beirut cousin maghera thank you after the break the star of the wire in spike lees vietnam epic to death 5 blood clot features on the ongoing fight for Racial Justice from vietnam to some city to portland all the more coming up about 2 of going on the go. Is there any who slip truth is there any truth in the news also but this is a small creature known as Elliott Abrams say about trumps policy. During this year we talk about all those crazy problems out there and then during the summer we hit you with solutions thats right so missions and today were going to be talking with me know sue of calling floor dot dot u. K. Welcome back youre watching a local have a vision of going im going to pot when we heard from beirut and while this summer Foreign Policy has been on the agenda obviously black lives matter protests have been on the agenda too in a film of combines that racial capitalism issues and Foreign Policy issues out now spike lee has defied bloods joining me from london is one of the stars club pitas clock thanks so whats your for coming on so weve had about Foreign Policy we had trump the other day saying he didnt know john lewis civil rights icon in the u. S. For those who havent seen it a few people maybe on earth who have seen it just tell me about the 5 bloods and whats a relevant right now. But. Spike lees latest film. Deals with libya a few issues actually. Its a vietnamese film or a film about vietnam. Its from a black perspective which is something we never got during the during the during the war nor know the films that followed. Its kind of. The treasure of the sierra madre but also its its poses a lot of questions about. For hits issues about posttraumatic. Shock syndrome. Post any conflict that men are involved in and the neglect that happens it also looks at trumps America Today it also looks at black lives matter. What is very interesting is that people thought that spike had put in the black lives matter moment in our film post shooting because of the recent rise in the protests around the world and i have to say that that was the 1st thing that we shot almost 18 months ago so. For me what this sort of shows is that the situation is the same and that you could have almost predicted that this was group if this would happen at some point in time and that this film would have been put there sis for that moment in time but its unclear on this well worth seeing its a love story not only for 3 myself and someone else but also between 5 black men you know who have had a shared experience of trauma and war and politics and life and death something that you dont see and how they remain brothers and that bond and thats why its called defile blood 2. You have a personal connection to vietnam i want to get on to that in a moment its funny you mention jesuit airman dr because so did all of a stern who was on the show on wednesday he was continually talking about the importance of not glamorizing a war obviously that that killed would you know this place tens of millions of people very conscious when you were doing this film that this film was not going to glorify u. S. Intervention in in vietnam but alone the rest of indochina. It was that was never there was never any any doubt that you know. The only reservation i had about it were my own person. Feelings i did not go to vietnam. I protested against the war i would protest against any war you know and i wasnt sure of how i would respond in an arena or in an area with this it happened and i didnt i have to say that i was tired like when i got into into a city this is dont go tramping back here in tundra when he got off that plane that he himself would be. Like it is easy but more devastating than anything else was to go to the museum of the american war which is what it used to be called there and seeing the artillery that was left behind and the army wounds that were in this in tanks and airplanes and i couldnt help but think of of the the bodies that were in these vehicles. It was all oh all wrong you know as wrong then as it is today around the world you were arrested for protesting the vietnam war it didnt even get a taste in my mouth because i wasnt there to necessarily protest i was there as a 1st aid assistant and our brief was to follow the rules that were laid down by Law Enforcement and i only found that Law Enforcement had duped us into all being arrested at a Crucial Point in the in the in the demonstrations. But that is something that has followed me around even to even to today you know if i have never been arrested but that a arrest has followed me from that moment to today. And i just dont understand why particularly when we look at the outcome of that of that conflict why should i still be persecuted and have this this shadow over me i guess not only that arrest in a separate into separate issue why the f. B. I. Talk here is that its very different this plus that i mentioned i dont know between the characters in the spike lee film who are the kind of grunts i suppose on the ground who saw in the killing of so many vietnamese people. You know they were on the ground they were there at me love. Is men. They still traumatized today and i have to say that im so traumatized a bit from just talking with them one who is still there in vietnam who came to talk to us about his experience and when he was fairly light with his. With this explanation of what it was like to be in it talk about the weather talk about the girls talked about you know all of this but when we asked him had he seen anyone be killed. His whole demeanor changed and he took about a minute and we could feel the atmosphere in the room change from what this man had been carrying since the late sixtys early seventys and all he could do is say yes some of my best friends right alongside me and nom and thats all that im going to say about that and i have to say that the paul that it left over us. Must be the same thing that this man has been carrying and that vietnam vets have been carrying since then who have been neglected and those as well from all the arenas since vietnam who have been neglected you know and i dont speak of just america. The men and women from around the world who are carrying the same thing whether they are from australia canada israel russia merican Afghanistan War damages people on both sides and for them it does not and a question is proportionately disproportionate civilians were given he spent time in the United States and britain you know of course about veteran problems here in britain actually from fighting in the in us wars in afghanistan libya the list goes on in iraq of course you mean in britain joining the kobe had lockdown what have you thought about when you saw the pictures coming from portland demonstrations arguably more violent i mean its not can stay put more violent than many vietnam demonstrations for black lives matter in Portland Oregon 1st of all let me say i applaud their its a nasty see that is still going on and that that as long as they dont you lose focus itll be fine in the end what i knew you know donald trump is calling them and a casts and and people who are engaged in violence need to be curbed by federal forces yes yes i know this i know this to be true and i know it to be false here but. Its a sensitive area can be cheap for me to be talking about with Russian Television concerning. Anything and why there is a serious theres a serious issue because in some people me thinking right now im talking to lester freema from the wire and you know there are some especially in a time when the call to defund the police in the United States is going out who say that they you and your role may have glorified that the policeman the cope on the job well i feel that the system all around the world is going to be changed you know if you so the authority that Police Offices around the world believe me around the world i think exceeds the situations that theyre it i find that the that the power that they giving even them allows that particular individual to vent whatever is happening in his life personally in a moment of criminality i think its like this and i promise you around the world in every country that i have been in and even those that have not been in my hang on hang on the United States disproportionately imprisoned people incarcerated people has capital punishment. You know. And the end of that proportion black men are leading are leading the way in that so im not being im not being kind to to just to to american it wouldnt say im saying that overall its that particularly in america when you look at the stats of of men who have been incarcerated but also let me say this that when i had to go with the police around baltimore in order to study for that role it was not something i wanted to do and i went into that situation with it with with a particular bias you know that that these are these are not my friends and yet when i got into the contest with them and when i was around the police stations and got to see them individually there were some who were really trying to do the right thing and there are a whole lot more who could give it my language they just dont care and those are the ones who are giving the whole institution a bad name but you know when it comes to injustice you played form a violent terrorist on the list in the United States Nelson Mandela im going to ask you because youve been talking about his use of justice why how you knew how you knew unlike help john lies a mentally ryan man queen has been on this show im going to say that you should boycott sun city when when Nelson Mandela is being presented in the media or in nato nations as a terrorist how do you know that a cultural boycott can ever be useful against an apartheid state. Or just following my gut. Just following my gut we did not go because of nelson because no sun was incarcerated. And i didnt realize it either that since it wasnt really a part of south africa. It seemed to be in an independent state but the fact that that. Sometimes its not about money sometimes youve got to take a look at the world and see how best you can use the tools to right the wrongs and if my group not going there was something that would have helped that moment you know to get to wage underneath that boulder with some sort of lever to move it and thats fine with me to boycott the foods that were going on into the certain countries foods ever going on into south africa do that you know do what it takes to get the right thing done for all of us involved you know to make controversial idea these days cultural boycotts of of course im going to ask you given here in london haven that that act is the arts are in such a crisis because a coronavirus what you made of the idea of the government here thinking poetry too complicated to teach in schools under kovac by Remote Learning when you think about poetry being the 1st to go in britains curriculum important. When you take when you take the arts out of the Elementary School systems you take away a platform of humanity and spirituality and love that you should be giving to a child at that point in time. Ive seen this in america where the 1st things that have been cut were music. Drama classes from that he went to art classes. So what does that leave you with that leaves you with very dry subjects that have nothing to do the feet youre so to feed that part of you that that carries your humanity it is necessary to keep the arts in the schools music. If you can get dance in there painting all of those things oh what the human being needs gardening gardening in there but when you just take those when you take that away from a human being you taking away a piece of their soul undermining who that human being is or who that human being as a chance to be absurd absolutely absurd im sorry thats how i feel about it. Well for the bars jones government saying it is trying its best to educate people join this go to virus crisis club because thank you we want you on fed up with season 2 in september thats it for this well Television Im going underground. On wednesday for our own Season Finale with pleasure vehicle make and journalist john. As the u. S. Economy was booming growing numbers of people were made homeless. You can work 40 hours in a week and still not have enough to get housing everybody believes america still is the way up to the reality of it were not financially equality and the lack of Affordable Housing or living minimum wage give many people new choice you know theres been a problem with the city not always turn a return call the stay way all this. Is because you have to report. The most vulnerable in abandoned on the streets to become the invisible clerks. The pressure is on lebanons leaders over the last weeks deadly blast which killed more than 150 people and left the port area in ruins a woman who lost her husband tells r. T. How her family has been torn apart. I promised my son that i me and his that are going to be in his birthday and i broke this promise. I. His people cry foul over the election in which the long term president claims he won by a landslide protesters take to the streets and more than 3000 people arrested. Much of whats it all yeah. Its all. Come from for portraits he says it will cost britain tens of millions of pounds if it wants its help to patrol the English Channel as more why greens make the perilous crossing to reach the u. K. I welcome its just gone 5 pm here in moscow youre watching r. T. International at. Evelyns finance minister has become the 4th cabinet member to quit following last weeks devastating explosion in beirut as protests have been held daily since then and people are demanding accountability for the 150 plus deaths and utter destruction caused by the blast. Keith. I think that i think. What a massive stockpile of Ammonium Nitrate ignited last tuesday leveling the port area 158. 00 people are known to have died so far but dozens are still missing so it is expected the death toll will rise thousands were injured in the explosion it is overwhelming Beirut Health system at the moment which was also grappling with the pandemic scores of buildings have been damaged or destroyed and its thought up to 300000 people have been left homeless when the Prime Minister is calling for early elections in a bid to quell the young rest beirut based investment banker how is that than later resignations that will eventually lead to positive changes in the country. I think the majority of those that are for justice to do it like myself i think i was angry because obviously of the magnitude of this catastrophe and also that angry at the magnitude of the incompetence on in dealing with this. It isnt as if it were the government it actually is creates an opening for you know a new management and new dynamic which can potentially need to a a more stable and acceptable 3 way to run or to basically be able to undertake this huge hurdle. However all the official numbers of course dont give a full picture of how many lives there have actually been changed forever its an added tragedy for one. Already dealing with their daughters cancer they were in hospital when the blast struck the father didnt survive. Forgive me if i did anything for me to carry or if i hurt you forgive me i love you i know of you i love you i love you for 2 hours i used to tell him i love you oh you know you are you know i love you i love you these summer months of always being synonymous with joy and celebration for sue his family the birthdays of the children and husband the anniversary of their wedding all of which falls during the sonny season but this year trouble started to loom on the horizon early when her daughter was diagnosed with cancer they called me in the morning they confirmed that its classical heart i knew that it wasnt informed by that time gemmas immune system had been shot to pieces but Hodgkin Lymphoma is not a sentence for children its curable and doctors have been reassuring sue her husband jihad was called by the news abroad in nigeria but couldnt stay away in a crisis like this so several dozen covert tests later he came to lebanon to be with his family we slept in the hospital the same bed the same everything me her and him gemmas hospital room was where the port explosion cooled the 3 of them the windows of the buildings in front of me crashing and then one by the like this. Like this i didnt see if fair i didnt see my daughter i didnt see any any any anything but i wanted to put his head like this i felt that all smashed all all all all so much that i was not sure that he was alive i saw his soul leaving his body i saw it but i have a sense or i want to move him to another hospital jihad died right before his daughters eyes at only 6 gemma faces 2 battles most adults would struggle to win cancer and coping with her fathers death she drew for me and around. Its circle she she color that was red i knew its her bed. And it was full of blood sue his heart breaks when she blames herself for letting her daughter witness all that and letting down her son by promising that his father would be at his birthday which is this week i promised my son that are me and his theyre going to be on his birthday and i broke this promise and everyone sing with happy birthday for my son its his birthday on the 30th of august. So. My love. I ask sue her if she wants to take a break from the interview she refuses adamantly theres just so much she feels she didnt tell her husband enough suhas biggest concern now is her daughter processing their loss gemma seems to be protecting her mother by not sharing her feelings she told them who was listening he heard her and i prefer can i not im not im not able to give details because they are killing me from inside me so can you imagine. Herself. Can you imagine the images in her brave passing whenever she closes her eyes. Suah finds redemption and relief in family pictures now as she relives the fondest of memories this is how we used to sleep playing our head on each other because you know as whenever i put my head on his saw that i feel secured even when hes around i dont go so far marcus i dont do anything for the house to fix care of Everything Everything yes i think a lot of clothes from my shoulder now this is the last photo of their family together she shows it to me as im sitting on the very couch where it was taken this story has been gaining traction across me jean the arabic world and we were the 1st she so kindly let in as she struggles to deal with the pain of the loss in the home she herself can face yet how am i able to come back to this house. Her. Oh my supposed to put my or the one those who know and this little and dont know is forever is a brother will never be around and. I was waiting for him just the put to hug me to put his arms to feel secure how. What im going to. Give when theyre in 3rd when those men lose grows theres some mean for not removing his clothes from the house im not going to remove them but sue her realizes that her life is not over she tells me its whole lifes mission now to eliminate the shortage of cancer medicine for lebanese children even with her mask on i can see her smiling when she talks about her children those she ordered them frozen as our. Unicorn because she learned about this one is very special i told her you see this is my hair because when youre going to take this medication your hair is going to fall down youre going to lose your hair so what i can do or this is my hair im going to give it to you or so you would wear to cater on im going to make her happy i would do whatever she wants the bill smiling her and her brother it was diana reporting from lebanon r t. Now there have been large scale protests in bellary space thousands arrested after a long time president Alexander Lukashenko claimed hed won a landslide victory in the weekends election his main rival though has formally launched a complaint to the Election Commission claiming there was fraud and the european politicians have raised concerns too over the results and the countrys handling of the protests harassment and violent repression of Peaceful Protesters has no place near fundamental rights and belarus must be respected i can the belorussian 30 eastern sure that the votes and yesterday selection are counted and published accurately violence against protesters is not the answer freedom of speech freedom of assembly basic human rights must be upheld. It is clear that the president ial election did not reach minimum standards for democratic elections that is not acceptable where around 3000. 00 people were detained nationwide on election day opposition supporters have been swift decline election has been rigged Alexander Lukashenko has been in power since 1904 but this election had been seen as his toughest challenge yet a number of journalists were also detained to you including the man you can see here he wrestled to the ground before being dragged to his side of the road eyewitnesses and other accounts to say many were beaten by police while covering the armrests. Outlook i threw a while back that the shooter was suitable yeah hes i mean. Look. I think i. I think i saw it never means good steady supply the cats labelle ariss in its largest protests in the last 10 years its at 10 pm people began to gather near the hero city of leeds for the powerful blocked by security agents the offices then began to mark allison seated sense of pushing back resistance i was the 1st time in the history of balance special crowd control measures including stun grenades were used some eyewitnesses claim a small rubber bullets being fired. Down hawkins reports now from outside the better Russian Embassy in moscow which also saw some tension on sunday. Hundreds of people yes they stayed at the embassy to show their indignation about an election they feel was rigged out of election with a few live votes were taken away that was one of the compared what was happening but. Throughout the night Security Forces broke up protests of thousands tens of thousands probably around the whole country with people marching through the streets building barricades some of them chanting police even looks to use violence against protesters those pelting them with bottles now Security Forces were very quick to respond with stun grenades with tear gas water cannons. Rubber bullets the reports of multiple injuries images of bloodied and bruised protesters around the world stephen even though they went into that blackout some problems with communications across the country the protests went beyond borders there were protests at the better russian embassies in kiev and warsaw even as far afield as televisa as well. As campaign was widely criticized the home and abroad for the arrest and detention of journalists. Activists as well come with himself said he didnt expect these elections to you was a broken voice that i should leave us for your flair for the way theyve been handled by the russian authorities there have opened probes into these protests saying that the rioters as they call them could face between the age of 15 years in jail. Himself saying those who took to the streets. To destabilize the country will face the consequences yes is. Blood you really if youre going to go against our country or even in the smallest way try to plunge the country into chaos and destabilize it you will receive an Immediate Response from the power for the moment or the process seem to have died down whats going to happen later tonight we cant tell but for blood to have as we said the main opposition now that it has already said shes going to fight these results in court she says she doesnt recognize them and shes calling on police and Security Forces not to use violence against protesters to stand down the reports are that that has happened or have happened last night in some cities in belarus as well whatever the result was going to be tonight it was clear that this would be some sort of turning point for domestic politics in belarus where one of the key opposition politicians who was barred from running accuses lukashenko of retaining power by force. Yes. Its clear that this has nothing to do with normal exit polls these are just numbers off the top of someones head the real results are exactly the opposite we support what citizens are doing because their votes of being stolen started this campaign with a brutal violation of the constitution because it is now seizing power by force he is the one who is carrying out a coup very well despite the protests their political analyst making babiche doesnt believe that the unrest when actually topple a government has happened in neighboring ukraine 6 years ago. I think broadest will continue for a few days. Without support without organized support they will peter out because people cannot sustain a long walk you know people need to go to work make a living also all the police in there which is certainly more determined and more cruel than police in which the 3 were not likely to see the repeated omari done because no one which is a very different. Situation is very different so i think for the time being we will stay in power but your last group you believe. You went through a moral defeat and you spoiled relations with russia i think is main mistake was doing was russia trying to talk on. The his other statements in the last years and russia and they also. From the bottom go to the previous people who want good relations with russia and who hoped he would be the man for a while. Now already high tensions between china and the u. S. Have been strained further after washingtons Top Health Official paid a visit to taiwan the Us Health Secretary alexs are met with taiwans president this is the highest ranking visit of a u. S. Official to the island since the diplomatic relations were cut back in 1979 tsar praised thailands handling of the Global Pandemic and attributed it to the democratic nature of taiwans society. The particular focus of both my discussions with the president. And of our trip is highlighting taiwans success on health combating covert 19 cooperating with the United States to prevent detect and respond to what threats china sees taiwan. And as one of its provinces has already objected to the visit the Chinese Foreign ministry demanded that the white house stop any official interactions with taiwans administration. You could win the. One china principle is the political basis of bilateral relations what the United States has done has seriously violated its commitment on the taiwan issues. Ok now another news 30000000 pounds that is the price france is reportedly demanding to up its efforts to stop migrants trying to reach the u. K. The news has not gone down well though in downing street which is said to be drawing up plans to deploy the navy to help charlotte devinsky reports now from paris. Well the clash over migrants between the u. K. And france seems to be escalating and that comes as there has been in recent arrivals from france to the u. K. Which has put the 2 countries holds the number of illegal crossings is appalling and unacceptably high the figures are shameful france and other e. U. States are safe countries genuine refugees should claim asylum there not reach their lifes and break the law by coming to the u. K. France is apparently demanding some. Pounds from the u. K. Government before it says it will deal with the issue of these illegal crossings properly on the aids now thats left apparently westminster pretty scathing this shut down those proposal saying it wont hand any will cash and less it has a hand in how the money is spent now there are also accusations that paris is trying to milk the u. K. All while these number of illegal crossings are increasing day by day lets have a look at some of the figures now just a few days ago on august 6th 235 people made it across from france to the shoes of england now in 2020 so far more than 4000 people have succeeded in making that crossing thats double the number in 2900. Priests that we see now french patrols are trying to stop some of those migrants leaving french Coastal Shores and we know that the French Interior minister has sort of back saying you since january its operations have stopped 5 times as many people as they did in 2019 in the same period but with the u. K. Its just north and so much so you cant exactly predict it. Has announced a new appointment this is the appointment of cotton desk dining channels direct command of this somebody who is going to be monitoring all the agencies that watch the English Channel for things like illegal migration somebody should be able to sort the problem out and u. K. Government is even suggested that it may have to use its maritime assets to deal with this we determined to stop this illegal route been to britain for humanitarian reasons as much as anything else we talking to our french counterparts and we in order to find a solution using maritime assets so safe call it to try and return votes to france trying to prevent people from leaving france in the 1st place while talks between the 2 countries are due to continue this week but the war is ticking at the moment the u. K. Has the right and the dup rules to say that the Asylum Seekers back to front but that will end at the end of the break that transitional period which will finish in december 2020 so only a few months away thats of course unless the 2 countries reach a new deal something at the moment that seems highly unlikely given that the 2 countries are not seeing eye to eye on this issue. Ok lets go back to taiwan where already high tensions between china and the u. S. Have been strained further after washingtons Top Health Officials visit the u. S. Health secretary alixs are met with taiwans president this is the highest ranking visit of a u. S. Official to the island since the diplomatic relations were cut back in 1979 and china has expressed its discontent of whats happening so lets get some reaction ive got the park longwall hes a senior politics languages and International Studies lecturer at britains Bar University and good afternoon to you what do you make of this visit visit is this about building bridges with taiwan or do you feel theres an element of provocation towards china. On day one when i think the unit is thesis consistent in building the bridges of taiwan and also trying to empower taiwan to join the International Organizations and extent is diplomatic richest nations so i think this is very clear and consistent with the us corsi not on the other hand im not sure if the us has successfully provoke beijing at the moment because actually i believe the chinese authorities are looking across the air in the us homeland were caught 19 has just 5 media increases in the euro as expected to put. Sort order back in the tool of normality but mr traumas clock is ticking he has only got 3 more months to go for he says we election and his chances for him going in as a result it would be at the interest of beijing tool a bit of wit and see the see what will happen and approaching this reelection and see what would be the next Administration Course the 2 is china and taiwan do you think anything of substance will be discussed between the u. S. And taiwan during this visit or do you think its perhaps now largely symbolic Health Secretary arriving in praising a country for its handling of the pandemic i think from the taiwanese offer ortiz. Surely you would expect something more concrete from the washington d. C. Expression really of the liberty of the vaccines after. Washington d. C. And allies would be successful we got to match since yeah so does the status quo at the taiwanese or forties would be like to see him said dad taiwan has been performing for where no. Pandemic. It has been keeping the infection computers for all and even and a number of. Twenties also who does this is already very impressive and so i think i can just see the only saw 40 has been very desperate to try to get the vaccines and. Saw quick enough for the washington d c r i am expecting. The 1st state visit to taiwan since 9079 in the scenes that we election is approaching for a fast i will see this more kind of symbolic connections theyre going to make instead of coming with any concrete agenda or actions or measures to be taken so its sort of it is trying to seem this way yeah and what about china subjected to this visit but do you think it can take any further action or will it just sort of void and get in. Well i think from the perspective of beijing. Is consistent the options through all formal channels. Regarding what has been done. To do us all for t. E r daryn as for example hong kong i think the chinese all 40 s has all of the same missions some all the u. S. Congressmen and senators as well as portions of home raising concept or acting inappropriately towards the Home Counties you know you see it. Took a step junius consider doing the same in regards to taiwan. Speaking going to consider sanctioning u. S. Senators and congressmen this was politicians when days spot go or are they something in which beijing conceded in appropriate i think these are properly one of the agendas that b. G. Is considering ok all right thanks very much for your thoughts on this that is dr pak no one thing your politics languages and International Studies lecture Britain University thank you thank you. Just coming up to half past 5 in the afternoon here in moscow good to have you come to move from us at the top you. Know look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. A robot must obey the orders given by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the 1st law show your identification for should be very careful about official intelligence and the point obesity is too great trust ever. Take on various jobs and with Artificial Intelligence will summon the demon. Must protect its own existence as existed. When i was told something seemed wrong rowles just dont hold. 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To discuss this and more im joined by my guest alexander macarius and london he is a writer on Legal Affairs as well as editor in chief of the duran dot com and in athens were joined by Alex Christopher he is the director and writer for the duran dot com or a jelling crossed up rules in effect that means you can jump anytime you want and i always appreciate this go to london for us alexander during the soviet union the to the major state publication was probably his best year praga obviously means truth is best you means news and there was a joke during the soviet union there is no truth in the news and theres no news in the truth i say i tend to think thats where we are in the west. Where does truth meet news and does news ever have a thing to do with the truth because it is so deep weaponized politicise that it is just a commodity to be used for ideological purposes so what is the what is the purpose of the i guess media and can we even say free media anymore go ahead why do we can say free media best the 1st time would make i mean all you need