Transcripts For RT CrossTalk 20240712

At really what has happened the failures lot of Law Enforcement for decades go ahead jim decades what you raise is i think the crux of our time right now and i do think that this case is bringing it to light a couple things to say here with respect to what you have now truthfully and accurately stated but a couple things to stay one is the fact that these are things as you said that we have known for a long time that we have that the public has known but somehow we dont know how weve known it we just know these things are out there but we dont believe theyre actually factual enough to be bringing up in a major conversations and thats because of Mainstream Media coverage or i should say lack thereof especially in the United States here so weve seen this complete you know shush on the level of that were not sure what to believe and now is this is coming out there almost for staff to cover it but even still theyre not covering it the way they should theyre not covering one important story the says now yes it has been used for political advantage as my. Goodness the things that we have known are some of the ties between us certain not only politicians but hollywood celebrities and of course as we know there are many hollywood celebrities that have come out being far more political than they probably should be but thats the connection there so whats come out in this recent document again is a nonprosecution agreement of course that was drafted by Alan Dershowitz who himself is implicated in some of the depositions statements of the victims and another thing that came out in this with a lot of Media Coverage immediately of course say in trying to the guy trump hung out with a guy trying to guilty too and just kind of focusing on that one of the statements in the depositions very clearly says that trump was never seen by the victims at any events or on that scene island so again were not politicizing this but i think one thing that a train general bill barr did when he was testifying before the House Committee the other day was try to distinguish himself from being a political actor and being somebody that cared about the rule of law obviously we saw that a lot of congressmen and women did not want to hear that or talk about the rule of law especially if it might not help them politically but i think we do at least have an attorney general and i care a little bit more about the will of law especially getting to the bottom of this now is the fact that it is being so politicized and what you want to talk about comments of the later in the program but it seems to me that it is this intentional is this going to slow burn to constantly turn our attention away because. Particularly theres this american thing with the royals in the u. K. You know Prince Andrew Prince Andrew in all of this and thats all nice and mine you know and i dont really care on the it because its very lady but you know it seems to me that this is trying to set for next year next summer i want to go back to generalist i mean more and more people potentially could be coming out and were going to how we dont forget we dont know im 6 charges right no 4 of trying to get into a perjury more and more with. Alleged big films come forward. Were going to have a lot more to chew on here but it seems to me you know its you know trumpet did say it was went in as Prince Andrews and that the focus on the bit was much where it should be so yeah i mean we should be focusing on the victims and it was the victim testimony that were reading here but you know peter i mean everyone was on the Mainstream Media was reporting on clinton or dershowitz or Prince Andrew some of the other names that may come up maybe some hollywood names or maybe. Some very powerful know Business People ok fight bill clinton 26 times he was on that plane none of this is is a surprise given bill clintons history it doesnt it doesnt shock me the fact that bill clinton would be on epsteins island that doesnt shock me doesnt make for interesting news ok its an interesting revelation in the history of this former u. S. President but it shouldnt shock anyone nor should it shock anyone if you find out some hollywood celebrities are on this island either were not talking about people that we should be looking up to hollywood and bill clinton but peter there is one name and theres one organization that we should all take a look at it its an organization and a name that no one in the Mainstream Media is reporting on and that is the f. B. I. The f. B. I. And Robert Mueller Robert Mueller says f. B. I. The f. B. I. Of bill clinton the f. B. I. Of george w. Bush the f. B. I. Of barack obama both democrat and republican this is not about politics is the f. B. I. That had the Prince Andrew picture they had it this is the f. B. I. That did not for some reason for some reason would not give over evidence to the victims said they could prosecute epstein and i make the youre wrong i believe that was 2015 i can be corrected if that here is not correct but they have the evidence they wouldnt cooperate with the victims we need to ask the question now. And i think you know im going with this was the f. B. I. Protecting as steve was and steve working for the f. B. I. I dont know im just giving opinions im getting you know the nation from what i read in your and youre asking a very valid question look at carter page i mean he was constantly being asked who he was working for he actually had a relationship with the with the cia but he was allowed to say it ok can i just say ill its a cost i remember when when they asked him a question you know way back you know why didnt you go after this or why to going after instance he said something along the lines of i was told not to because this guy is intelligent or is intelligence or is being protected by telling just Something Like that i forgot the exact quote but there you have it was the f. B. I. Using abstain in order to get salacious details about powerful people look in order to leverage those that that information we have to ask these questions and the other question i have to ask is why Robert Mueller Robert Mueller there he is again the same guy that was going after trump during the russia gate hoax there he is again and there he is his f. B. I. Kristin the victims to try and get information or try to connect trump to mc i mean they were trying so hard to connect trying to se what is going on here you know what is going on here you know jennifer is you know into perjury charges really kind of interest me because those are slam dunks you said this at one time now youre saying that thats an easy one then that easily provable ok because you dont need any witnesses is your own words being used against you here and again and i say we talked about it and im still troubled by the charges themselves because it seems to wipe away or or just turn away from of a mountain of other things as you said in your 1st answer we kind of know a lot of these things here ok and the Justice Department is focusing on very very specific things is i get the impression is that they they want to they will they want to penalize they they want to. See a conviction here because it can be. Action is very important for me because in the se we did something but going back to what i would say didnt look like they had been doing the law for a very long time seems to be very convenient go ahead jennifer exactly nothing you know what alex was dead on point there i would even take it one step further because yes if this was just Jeffrey Epsteins case if this was just if this was just about epstein maybe that would be one thing we talk about the f. B. I. Or their use of intelligence this is maxwell this is somebody who was a u. K. Citizen a british citizen she lived in europe she had residences in europe and of course now these 7 residences in the u. S. But she has been shes a foreign which is a Foreign National she wasnt for nascar she was a police dual citizenship this is a woman though that has so many ties overseas that which implicates the cia so if alsa casas come out and other start to come out that epstein had connections to intelligence that again implicates the cia who has now also been implicated as weve seen playing out now in durhams investigation a lot of other things that yes the f. B. I. Was at the front and center but it almost makes one wonder as it is the f. B. I. Sort of the silencing wing or the prosecution wing of the cia operations right silence this this is our guy or this might be our guy that you can go after him were just going to use them or were already used in many ways i mean these are a lot of questions that we have yet to be answered but this is that is one of the most important things you need to see thing is i want to see this dead so you cant convict guy so you know you have maxwell so its kind of you know not to absolve her of any kind of criminality and some of the things weve learned through documents i mean you dont have words for this kind of behavior but i mean it seems to be that you know shes going to. Say we are taking care of this because we got a conviction on a perjury charge ok slaters clean lets move on thats not satisfactory in my mind oh you know its not its not satisfactory at all you know what happened testy is not satisfactory so im. I mean they have to get to the bottom of this peter they have to get to the bottom of this Robert Mueller needs to be questioned the f. B. I. Works for the d. O. J. Thats barrs d. O. J. Thats a cheap bars d. O. J. He needs to get to the bottom of this and Robert Mueller definitely has some answers i mean this is Crystal Clear now this point Robert Mueller has some answers as to what was going on with epstein and what was going on with collate maxwell we need to get to the bottom of this well thats thats what i got from everything that i read ok ok you saw him present his findings to congress one of the most pathetic presentations in the history of media and in congress and so you have competence if you were to housman question would be you know being of sound mind to be able to answer it i mean it seems to be a trend here you know its like by bill its you know in the crisper way right which is completely useless person what does he do ok i we see earning his wage as head of the f. B. I. Ok i mean it seems to me that all these all these individuals are silent ok and its convenient that their son thats the problem thats that is the problem is theyre silent when its convenient for them but now we have these testimonies we have the documents in front of us and we know that they were hiding information they were hiding information that could have saved many many victims a lot of crieff a lot of pain a lot of agony and they werent turning over that information i have to ask myself why and it wasnt a republican thing or a democrat thing this spans 3 presidencies 3 both republican and democrat they have the answers they have them the u. S. Government has the answers. Ok got jennifer quick real quick before we go to the break overhead like a possibility going back to peters going back. To alexs point where this was this is a republican and democrat there have been. And so many convictions so many charges and so many indictments for republicans and democrats and so this is not a political think it should be used as a political thing to be out there. Yet anyway now im really glad you said that because thats what. Makes us different from other media because im not looking for a political angle here im trying to understand how the f. B. I. Could let this happen on a covered up i dont know if thats the right word right now we need to know more but this is huge in these documents from a dump slowly but surely youre telling us they didnt do their job or im going to jump in here were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on the edge of mass well start a state. By the pandemic no certainly no borders just blood into nationalities. Has emerged little to be we dont look like the whole world to. Judge us coming very close is listening to. We can do better we should be. 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Ok lets go back to. The 1st time you were on cross talk when we talked about this story you asked that most fundamental question and it still remains to be answered where did the money come from and you know something about money its something you can track ok because if they could track any of your financial endeavors whatsoever its very very easy to do with legally or illegally but you just simply cant move money around without somebody noticing it youre this i dont know how much money. Well how some people have said like 20000000 dollars you know houses all over the world 1st of all where did she get her money i mean i never heard that was she ever gainfully employed i dont know anything about that but extremely wealthy and of course we have no idea how s. He made his money and his wealth is estimated to you know its Something Like 700000000. 00 or Something Like that so i mean again where is the f. B. I. On and were the tools of the state i mean you know people can lie you can perjure yourself but money is money and its something you can find out where it goes go ahead else you know where is the money you know another good question would be peter where is the 50600000005 stays where does that go where did that girl yes be i know this intelligence knows they know where the money is they know where it is claimed maxwell said that she did not have any communication any communication with epstein for 10 years and jennifer can elaborate on this we get documents which show she was emailing in 2015 in her case im not a lawyer but i would imagine her case is dead just blown apart i didnt know epstein right stop communicating with him oh it was it was was she looking after epsteins money are was her money s. T. s money lets not forget maxwell comes her history it is very interesting a very colorful dont know what happened your fathers money the Pension Funds exactly her fathers money we dont know where it is either. Yeah jennifer again you know if this is what really bothers me is that ok fine perjury you should be punished for perjury absolutely. Members of the former administration or members of congress would live up to that ok but thats a different topic for a Different Program here but again you know i mean if you want to make a really solid case and follow the money in the known top of it from what we know that has been put into the public square. Of the activities of s. T. D. And maxwell they couldnt have done it alone they werent flying the plane ok they want and if they were aircraft control controllers again if there were a lot of people around in this operation you know what are we going to learn about that again this is the thing ok if you have a list of flights the times from what a reporter when they are always working in the airports what did they see oh are we going to hear anything about that or is it you know perjury and that this is done go ahead. Now this is my opinion i mean if they havent read anything on this but the facts do seem to line it up 1st of all there are a lot of names even in the disclosures that have come out that are still redacted so its rightly stated i mean this was these are names that none of us were really surprised by the ones that were released either we knew about them or we really care about them but there are still names within that deposition that are redacted there is a reason for that if those names are redacted that means there is an Ongoing Investigation into those redacted names of those people are not suicide at this point and so so there is Something Else still going on we still the durham investigation we have multiple investigations im still going on what im going to say right here and again this is an opinion just based on evidence what i know from legal precedent or what are the kind of case youre trying to build and im going to try to refrain from making actual any kind of conclusions but if you follow him right now you know what i am going to give credit not only to have programs like this one to other programs that are trying to report on this and connect the dots going to get credit to a lot of a certain set. Journalists on social media that are taking a d. O. J. Indictments and certain things and theyre putting the pieces because the public and that is all around the world people are concerned about this the public relies on the media to piece together legal documents to piece together and date and so what so whats this department doing how might it affect this department so were going to need a lot a lot of Money Laundering charges of a lot of Money Laundering indictments a lot of international Money Laundering bribery rico schemes some of these indictments and were not sure yet but i do believe that a lot of those are going to start to be pieced it together you brought up where does the money go will that with then go into Money Laundering its not just going to go into persons bank the person b. s bank account after they pay for you know whatever it is that they want its going to be transferred through multiple Financial Institutions Shell Companies and organizations and so there would have to be massive rico investigations Money Laundering schemes that Cross International borders and i believe thats whats happening if you look at some again some of the some citizen journalists on social media at that to be the ones taking the mantle and shows like this that are trying to piece together what weve seen but there are a number of those that are connecting to some of the same names that weve seen so i believe that there is a something that is being built that might even go beyond just the maxwell case yes perjury is not what we want to see we dont want maxwell on perjury nobody cares but i do believe there is a case that is being built that is going to be far beyond the next well because at the end of the day as weve stated here and as a public wants to know we want to know all the names we want to know where the money was coming from we want to know who helped them hide it because the person the people who helped them hide these kinds of atrocious acts are just as guilty as anybody who facilitated them so we want to know governments that were involved if intelligence was involved and what happened and how we can stop thats going to come plus absolutely if you were knowledgeable of your income was. It is incumbent upon you to ask your own so i have to ask you the most the most difficult question is the saddest question here is it in you know if we use a constant i thought it was a intelligence. Well do we why should we have any competence in the Intelligence Community in the f. B. I. To really get down to the truth because you know it when you know it will we know that this information is there weve got it jennifers already what a lot of stuff is redacted still i mean its really it is really important for them to come out and be transparent about this because theres so many people that talk about this you know and there was a woman on n. B. C. She built up this story for over a year is here in their marriage but wasnt interested in it you know and this is still another one of those stories where there is why should we trust the media and why should we trust the authorities because it isnt at this point and i will say in my humble opinion its an obvious whitewash go ahead especially after what happened tends to especially after what happened to mc it ill say it again they need to get this right they need to get this right and we need to see some justice here and i think its absolutely critical you know that the u. S. Is just undergone 34 years of a russia gate hoax and it has been proven to be a complete and utter hoax the whole thing once again you have the same cast of characters in the russia gate hoax the same names are popping up here in this epstein saying the same exact names how many how many emmis n. B. C. And c. N. N. Shows did we see how Many Democrats and republicans did we hear saying Robert Mueller is a man of integrity if trump dares to go after mueller then we will impeach trucks he is a man of the highest integrity the highest integrity Robert Mueller he was the man that was heading the f. B. I. And covering what was and jennifer said it perfectly an International International organization of trafficking young girls young kids our daughters our sons this was the man the same man that was trying. Both to get rid of trump trying to to overthrow the president of the United States was the same man that was heading the f. B. I. And had all the evidence and all the information about an International Shout trafficking operation. In general i dont know if you saw them you know its that i previously talked about how and dershowitz appearance on Tucker Carlson i dont know if you saw but. Im not a psychologist or anything but he definitely looked worried he looked very hacker very tired and not chris fizzy usually is and i dont always agree with mr dershowitz. But it was a very interesting appearance i did a list kind of leave it open did you see that i did see bits and pieces of it and you dont have to be a psychologist to have seen that i think the word that came to my mind was desperate desperate to explain to exonerate to explain away it was it was troubling to see. Fortunately not surprising again thats another name that was not surprising thats another name that people already knew was implicated we didnt know was actually implicated in some of the detailed horrific events that were described by the witness says but but this is somebody who knows a lot about this he did it he did not look well he looked scared. And frankly he should be everybody that was part of that should be and i believe at this point were looking at numbers that we cant even fathom right now and those are the names that are still redacted there in anybodys interest let me ask you this in your thinking and professional experience i do you think that. Those in the f. B. I. And the just. Want to find if you are they looking for someone whos going to turn states evidence and they are going to names are going to start naming names i mean you think this is whats really going on because they are pushing the trial for a year it gives them time to kind of probe and to see who will listen because with all of those names redacted you know i mean look theres a lot of. Wondering if theyre on their list but maybe get ahead of the sheriff you know is that were hearing please whats your gut. So my gut tells me that there are now i believe there are some good guys there thats why i have talked about bill barr before ive studied his career ive studied his trajectory this is not a political person on this is a man who was ready for retirement was excited for and saw what was going on knew what was going on more so than we might even realize and wanted to establish the rule of law i do believe that there has been massive massive corruption not only in the highest echelons of the f. B. I. But absolutely within the Intelligence Community and that doesnt just include the cia and i think were starting to see evidence of that digits and this is what im seeing because i look for a trajectory of change we already know out to say this use data that we already know how bad its been for years under the George Bush Administration or multiple administrations i mean the republican and democrat pry prior to right now theres been a culture of leaks theres been a culture a culture of intelligence assets of government officials i mean not just low level government officials f. B. I. Or cia these are top level cia white house officials that are leaking things leaking confidential information to the york times the Washington Post its all this for political gain for political purposes it turns out to be completely fabricated and what we are seen and now im seeing a trajectory away from the leaking culture yes you dont want anybody to cover things up and hide things but when theyre covering up the truth in favor of leaking out lies i have a problem with that is distinct from no were building a much bigger case than anybody can understand and were having to now connect International Laundering Operations International trafficking Human Trafficking horrific things crimes against humanity and it does take some time because remember we have a Mainstream Media especially in america theres already pains of the narrative and so in order to help the public to see this and there are people that are waking up that actually just want answers its not political for them they do care about the victims but i think go. 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