You cannot be thrown with yeah youre right. I am. A dark industry comes to life in los angeles every night. Dozens of women sell their bodies on the street many of them underage. Los Angeles Police reveal a taste of their daily challenge if youre going to exploit a child here in los angeles they were going to come after you see officers going undercover as 6 workers and customers to fight the l. A. 6 trade. A lot of young people know nothing about Julian Assange. You know julian astound you do you know anything about this man and what happened to him do you want to know about your balance and years ago. Wiki leaks with a stockholm lot of information about the crimes that were being committed by place to play war crimes but mostly the us governments and continually the murder of innocent civilians. For the country is just pretend and this is the 1st and i think thing about the economics it kind of forced us to acknowledge its you know we couldnt ignore it. Hes an idealist hes on a mission hes on a mission to harm. People and the information. Ministry. But this comes with the crimes im alone isnt being charitable hes made while he was in the Ecuadorian Embassy for 8 years 7 or 8 in. A long time hes spending time in prisons basically and that now hes being fair many months in the present. There are a lot of people who dont want him in prison a lot of the very powerful this department is conducting a thorough aggressive investigation to determine how this leak occurred to identify the person or persons responsible. Person. And i think thats what hes facing police is trying to match the old village lights and well wait stateside. Hobbie any reason to suggest that hes trying to its the crimes that. I dont think you can really understand Julian Assange. Or wiki leaks without seeing an aspect of his life that formed him and that was absolutely here in melbourne and it formed him not only in terms of his ideas. His personality his expertise but also his conceptual thinking about forming software projects including wiki. So melbourne in the late eightys and early ninetys became the center of the a strain underground which included hers and experimenters and also theres not just in the sense of people who broke into things illegally but also people who just experimented with. It didnt take long for australias Hacking Community to embrace the young. Teenagers they spent most of their time online but did occasionally venture out and when they did. This square in central melbourne. This is the Historic Town hall and it was the site along with some other Historic Town halls in melbourne. And other members of that Technology Community were here in their late teens and early twentys shopping for computer bits and exchanging ideas and information about how to experiment with hardware and software. And new. Computer. Memory and understanding. I didnt. Just write that he would pay for a short while. One of the worlds most. Its very interesting the hacker mentality from this time period they wanted the thrill of getting into the system that was ted do. And the more procedures the in the institution the more thrilled they got so if they could break into now such. Things were the smartest people stay with people who had put man on the moon really if you could break into their systems then you could prove to yourself youre a 17 year old boy you 2 are very smart. The u. S. Space agency nasa is one of the victims of the melbourne computer Hacking Syndicate american investigators including the f. B. I. Contacted a strain authorities with a suspicions. Of the 16th 1989 nasa was attacked by what was known as the way virus it caused a Space Shuttle launch in florida to be postponed and was traced to australian hackers in melbourne there when quorum was one of the 1st ever worms that had been written and it was certainly the 1st politically motivated wireman that carried a political message that message was a quote from the Midnight Oil Song and that quote was you talk of times of peace for all and then prepare for war. This thing that was the way. It emerged from a sort of deep dark. Forest you got a glimpse of it and then disappeared again and the authors have never been found although some see this might be one of jewel in a songes dealings. People have lots of different views on these things. Julian was very lucky growing up in that although he grew up in a fairly poor family canonically it was very rich intellectually. Julians father is a very clever and creative person and quite sensitive i think hes been enormously important to julius development as a young adult. As a young man joanne was. A daughter her choice. Is nick and i am worth wizard because they were always very hard to come up with a near approach to things your way of looking at things. What a number of track person have said to me is that. They get a different perspective on the world from the systems theyve been in and thats because they are able to see the actual information these are. Directly contradicting what an organization may say publicly or someone a politician may say publicly they understand that the public is being told something that is just not just a little lie often its a very big lie that helped maybe develop enjoins mind. The super importance of Media Organizations being able to report accurately on information. And. Players and having a cup of tea. And a child to. Fastened 6 or Something Like that quite early on then youre right and julian said. Id like to start and we can. Learn this week he would concern it so its only. When we reduce the total as an anonymous from people who want to really information and that information. Did you try to warn him about anything at that time. No one would you and young man on the cusp of life you dont care for warnings you say well how can i help. What ive know is taken natures aphorism. To hide leave diners for me. Leave dangerous we dont creep around place being frightened of shadows. Do what you have to do and then face the consequences and best you can. Thats me my god i owe my life. And it is. Not. The. 60 or 25. That we had burst out the oppositions so 3 to. 5 i 1st heard about with needs and you know silence from the helicopter for change in iraq the famous was he was where we saw. The helicopter shoot people on the ground. But of all of. Them on. Their on. The Helicopter Shot up some civilians and in the process shot 2 voices just 2 local forces chose and they also shot up some children in a car. Bomb around the area. Or even more. American military personnel misidentified civilians and rebels. From overhead it looked as though one of the men had a gun. But it was just a reuters camera man holding. That they saw the collateral but mortar b. T. O. Said he as we know for get. The forget because they escaped it was what the 1st time as i was screaming loud at my office this the soldiers are us with dissed emotional detachment as they were playing video games and now with the lives of people in such a cool way. Here is actual shocking video footage fact irrefutable evidence of what happened and what has been described to me by one retired military person actually here in australia as undoubtedly a war crime i want to welcome i want to go off to the shooting of july 13th 2007 u. S. Military commanders justified the attempt claiming that its troops had been in battle with Hostile Forces by terrible over. Approaching a big and im a body. But 2 children well. They were in a van when their father approached the scene of the shooting to help mr horn we have individuals going. To monmouth. Rogering. Fire. Where. It was really fascinating for me was when i saw an interview with an american soldier who was there on that spot after they. Killed them and shot them and it was the young. Officer who went to the van and discovered that there were 2 children at that were wounded he said the little girl couldnt blink because her eyes were full of grass and he tried to prove to cross from our eyes when he spoke to his supervisor and wanted to take her to a decent hospital he was told wash out you know for john up. For the 1st time we understood. The civilian casualties the innocent people who were killed in both afghanistan and iraq and this was all kept from the public. Doing sun she showed real bravery in being willing to publish frankly and fearlessly that is idio and i think that there are people within the u. S. Military who have never forgiven him for it. That helicopter attack resulted in 12 deaths 2 children were wounded no one from the American Military has ever been held accountable. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics sport thats less im show business ill see you than. The few months ago most of them are going to cite. Here is her job and its annoying for her to leave and some of the only interest on the kind of revelation on the winning one side she and this small new movie some of these are that you know this is after collateral mother Julian Assange revealed his identity and was known i mean it was front page news all over the world at that point. Only to Julian Assange to become a halt global topic but hed found a way to publish classified information and made it available to anyone who wanted to share someone elses secrets the idea of developing an anonymous digital dropbox and applying it to a Media Organization that is wiki leaks that was the 1st people hadnt really done that before that was that was Julian Assange. Enabled the whistleblower who were. Low cost with just the right d. V. D. And the use of the right tools to anonymously. Blow the whistle by transmitting like large amounts of data. The day we released over 287. Documenting the reality on the International Mass surveillance he disappeared. Here as in i have. Been has a blackberry. He uses email. Well youre all screwed. What is this place then where were all those files actually kept. Their talent is somewhere. Julian magically brought together. Computers digitalize ation and information and put before the public. When someone called you know songs knocked on the door from my club i was quite pleased to see him i was quite keen that we would have somebody who was making the news. My names phone smith im a journalist. But more i run something called the front line from which i founded which is a press club and. It all happened in this room i mean julian literally turned up and knocked on the door and literally unannounced he knocks on the door 2 days before that press conference saying i want a press conference on Julian Assange quite literally and so we arrange the press conference for him and it was on a monday morning he was standing here. He was up here and we had a podium we have the podium and we had it here and he was standing here and its from this position he raised up the guardian front page. And you know thats when the whole thing started so this is the guardian from this morning 40. 40 pages about this topic. Karzai in the spiegel 17 pages. Just a couple of months after the video of the baghdad helicopter attack against civilian. It was published yet mulready nations appeared this time it was the afghanistan and iraq dossier as. The afghanistan and iraq does the us classified pentagon files on u. S. And allied military activity in afghanistan and iraq from 2004 to 2009. These were logs that were written by members of the military who might be out at the front door but trolling an area and might be things theyve seen or exciting they experienced on their shift or patrol so it was almost a sort of. A very detailed war diary. By the americans and the british in but it didnt occur to me that it could be so informative. The because it was a huge data sets 400000 classified reports field reports by the u. S. Army this is the most accurate description of the war that is it ever being released into the historic record we have counted now 122000 or so doing casualties in the war is nearly no Street Corner in baghdad that didnt have a body found that being killed 3 violence in one form or another 50 what we found out from iraq and afghanistan dossiers the u. S. And its allies allegedly under reported civilian casualties prisoners of war was subjected to violent acts of torture of u. S. Military personnel who were reportedly involved in child prostitution. And you have published his publishing secrets the government starts losing control of the narrative that had a narrative in iraq. No civilian did and then they lost control of that narrative because we found out the truth of the. Thats the power of. The battlefield consequences of the release of these documents are potentially severe and dangerous for our troops our allies and afghan partners and may well damage our relationships and reputation in that key part of the world and one of the main criticisms thats being leveled at you is that you have published the villages that the names and in some cases the g. P. S. Coordinates of people afghans who cooperated with the u. S. Military and a u. S. Official has called it a potential hit list for the taliban whats your response to that there was some peace to mostly be a media peter where were looking at the mission seriously to see whether that is true and approach the white house to austin for assistance in reviewing material before we published the war you know its hard to accept that request they always say oh they have blood on their hands and they get people in danger but i think if anyone would have been killed because they would have directed the person in front of the camera all proved it taken against them sold i think its just a blatant lie is it possible that the 1st tranche of time from the afghan war logs could have been better redacted yes quite probably they could have been better protected had anyone ever done this before no there was no road back. I mean really in the sunshine wiki leaks they were bushwhacking through thick forests to try and figure out how to do this. Via afghanistan and iraq dont see just what the biggest leak of a. Tone of war crimes allegedly perpetrated by the u. S. Can do. No one from americas military has ever been held accountable. And. A little bit over 10 years ago i was contacted. By. A person. Who or i didnt know at that point in time at all. Wanted to meet with me and i met a. Person who spoke with a very strong australian accent and he told me that he had a Problem Program of the wanted to do a project. When we met. My initial. Feeling was that this was. Completely outlandish that there was nothing to it so we parted way but we kept contact and a little bit later. Came the publications of the collateral murder video where you could see helicopter gun him down thats a u. S. Helicopter in iraq gunning down reuters journalists in an open street and so when i realized that he was serious about isnt ever. Julian assange invited yohannes to work with him on a new collection of classified documents that had fallen into wiki leaks hands. This time correspondence from the United States diplomatic service. Diplomatic cables. That we can leaks published a little bit later they were a set of internal briefings if you put it this way or analysis. That all of the american diplomats. Wrote and delivered back to the state department. Leaked u. S. Diplomatic cables published on november 28th 2010 it contains u. S. Diplomatic correspondents from 966. 00 to 2010 and includes 100000 documents marked confidential and 15000. 00 marked secret. You have to understand the scale of all this release of information so you. We took these cables and we printed them out into a and they would go betweens in petersburg and moscow it is that much material i can give you a simple example of what was interesting in those cables in regard to sweden because i worked with the materials that were related in these documents there we could see here and thats which politicians are going to come to the u. S. Ambassador and they ask for services for the services they would ask for would be. We have a problem with the swedish Public Opinion they would say and the swedish Public Opinion doesnt like the war in afghanistan and they dont want us to participate in the war in afghanistan could you please help us there by inviting him some afghani women here to sweden and well put them on the swedish t. V. So they can talk about the good things that were doing there saw them to you we found out that. Swedish politicians and swedish Public Servants undercutting the way the would be democracy is supposed to function and theyre doing that together with them with you with this diplomats contrary to the interests of the swedish people one of the hopeful things that ive discovered. Is that really every war that is thought of. As being a result. Of mediocrity what does that mean. That means basically populations by. And populations have to be fooled into will. Be. Treated as an enemy combatant which really should be closed down permanently and decisively reduce any broken every law to stick what you think it was what hotel is that. Going on in the service its not that so that middle or a good at least. Newman was at his height of popularity when sweden. Vats he attracted. A mostly. Its understandable that he would be attractive to. A young man. Very high and noble noble and. So that made him even more attractive. As russias been meddling in u. K. Politics according to official reports the answer is maybe kind it and the usual highly likely report is that also secretary of state might bump a always on a crusade against china does anyone outside the beltway really care. To sudden end illegal takeover of a government by a small group. So rather than revolutionaries or soldiers vets small groups the corporations when you have a tiny group of people who have all the power you have to have some means to make sure the rest of us dont get together and take it back. Please or sacrifice some. Places that capitalism exploited and destroyed for profit and left behind misery poverty environmental devastation and so you see things like Voter Suppression building more prisons you seem gerrymandering all sorts of undemocratic practices for wealthy instead. World. Of the. Carnage on american streets as black lives matter protesters and authorities face off seattle is the latest to be hit by a police crackdown. 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