Streets all over the world may already be a thing of the past now its time to heed the lessons of this. War i mean i think this living in a more reasonable way to discuss this im joined by world renowned expert on earth is young gap. Yeah its so great to have you with us shortly before the convention i spoke to 2 really architects call house and politics in the car and we discussed how everyone environment and architecture should be about connecting people bringing them together so that they could Exchange Ideas experience and knowledge is this concept datz now that the danger of a pandemic dictates people to stay apart rather than or to be brought together. As we show we should look at it from a historic point of view. Our signal hands our says ive had many problems over the years as earthquakes and theres been fires theres been bombing that has been wall that has been flooding that has been made to me. By or is it to me some bacteria and there has been an number of. Myths and see this is we each weve had to cope with as human beings and the history will tell us that though we have very penny king at his point and we have all kinds of restrictions and you always are to have seeings then when the doctors have found a solution so hes going to meet we receive entry is from now things go back so the way they used to be in all of this and people will say can you remember the corona contained here and the corona period no that was his visual experience best indian time these things have happened mankind because mankind is not stronger than illegal or legal virus men kindly return to the way of living because we have millions of years of social development Logical Development brought us to where we are and made that the behavior we need to we couldnt just for a few. Days no limitations we just return to the natural we almost say chips so so. Dont bertie dont worry. No i agree with you that we will. Eventually go back to the way we were because the condemning is not here to stay forever but that period of time you set 3 years thats still a long period of time right for things to change around for instance cholera and in the 19th century when there were outbreaks they lead to the development of Water SuppliesSanitation Systems in europe. Was the tuberculosis epidemic into consideration when creating a landmark objects what i sat colonel virus condemned have an architecture and urban planning because well go back but not tomorrow its still going to take some time at least until i see it is there and then we have to test that its just 3 years like you said. I think the. They taught us will be much faster and bieber they have some solutions to the problem much faster than 3 years but it will take a time fausto relax and me turn to our normal ways i see that hes very different these endemic from the ones who i mean to me because in those cases that could be done something with a suicide and then running and washing your fingers and this one is a virus and. Actually i can see you know some people say that we should all move out of the cities and live separately on the contrary nics thats completely stupid because he has a main problem we have as human beings are not the. Virus that is really the climate challenge and we have to do something about thats much more involved and to do something for the climate we actually have to get up to get out so he can have more practical solution so in and he had to pollution and to. We. This one will. I cannot see we then ok we have to make lists in buildings 16 square meters next to me says need a wide we have to do a lot of sayings need to use against all of the good sings we had learned as to it enjoy the new and know that it be a closer we are more in 2 minutes if we are some distance he can be a moral person no then he small social and bigger the sense is not all. The steps and all public distance and we as human beings cannot live without being intimate and being closed off to people only for the while we go back to the way we have developed so many years for well communication but i have a question regarding People Living outside the cities you mentioned thats completely stiff it. I can talk from my personal experience that now that i have lived in a big house outside a city for 4 months i dont like to say outside the city and i know so many of my friends who never before considered living in a ventilator and lake and nature and that skate outside the city and now at least say to herself that are considering moving out of the city is on the latest condemn a has the changing their landscape of the world. Were not talking about your who and were not talking about you when your friends when i see the major problems are the great expansion of the population of the world and we know that hes like in china theyve started to move into the c. D. s that has enabled china economically to be able to hold his if theyre living stand out of the people and these we have these explosion of more people to this rule to really have to move together maybe can produce more efficiently where we can solve the transportation problems more species are here very loose in a team where we didnt have big. Training systems warming systems so we know that to do something for all that time is is much better that be closed and that we actually have a situation where you cant get a better economy to solve the problems of mankind so spreading the whole worse population out on the field will be. All the time and other resources so it may be a solution for you but not for mankind. I did i never i never looked at it from this place because i thought i would be happy helping their edges and regions to develop and stay alive but i never looked at it this way from the climate preachers also say get out just one day maybe maybe years from now you will be old and you will need some surgery Stronger Community and they will have to come with send a nurse straight times a day you have to bring you live he used somebody and youre more spread out you live the more expensive and the more difficult it is to give you an essentially service. When you are older or he threw a sikh or if you had he say boost so these solution you mention is all that young and fresh and for a few years if we look at the who live in his meat and make a much Better Service he took it up but he will have to bake. I think me to learn something from this epiphany maybe we learn to wash our hands that will be good and if you enjoy also because we want his head to bed and he any situation with any washing could be better he also understood that some of the jobs we have weekend do on the computer. And then that could be fine to get people to say 2 days a week at work and hope home and 3 days of he only go to the city then it will reduce. Transportation and traffic the 40 percent thats great and we should also remember that he cannot say now if anybody can wear from home because not everybody and thats so many jobs we sneeze you so be then if you are a nurse if your doctor is you if you. Do the clinic the beach or if you are in a hospital if you are there so many jobs in society which you cannot do honestly you have to be there you have to reach the banks and you have to do this and that so it is again he said busy means he solution to see everybody work ready. Some of that bit of and the most educated they can were told we count were told all their life we really go crazy because were so dependent on a working busy people meet other people and office is not only a place where you meet other people within the households a small and small all the offices and places or so. As sort of a family for you thats in the office you show pictures of your boyfriend or you and he tried this in the office you cry. With your friends if you if you have bad luck in love hes in the office you who simply joke. Because in many of our cities is 1000000 fossils are very small in a city like copenhagen eery allah you need is only if it is hit by one person and all these Single Person households they need to come out and eat all they go crazy. We cannot believe leaving it you. Know room with you and looking at your list. She had a t. V. Show right now when we come back well continue to talk about whether this thing that made will change to our National Landscape is stay with us. Syria has been engulfed in civil war for almost 10 years it cost hundreds of thousands of lives and displaced millions more no one foresaw the peaceful protests of 2011 is collating into a complex conflict between various armies geopolitical interests rebel groups and jihadists. How they are needed on the dock on this. But if you tell us you say in the hague because. Of. Mass at the top look cool. Let you know deep down you look. Closely at them on the theater and i was. Just an ordinary has sat down i. Never start times the other day and then ashamed that i dont understand hate get a shout then hear. It if. I know no crowd. No shots no. Action helps because. Well. No 1st. Point your thirst for action. Coup detat the sudden forced and illegal takeover of a government by a small group. So rather than revolutionaries or soldiers could. Small groups the corporations when you have a tiny group of people who have all the power you have to have some means to make sure the rest of us dont get together and take it back. Police are sacrificing. Places that capitalism exploited and destroyed for profit and left behind misery poverty environmental devastation and so you see things like Voter Suppression building more prisons you seem gerrymandering all sorts of undemocratic practices were well into that world were well focused world. Question the. Always the issue of trying to playing out in the American Election cycle. Betray themselves as being tough on beijing maybe they are at least rhetorically but in reality those are very different story and its bipartisan the commanding heights of industry and finance important china for a day in the ridges to show what is this chinas. Going. Were back with gathered a world renowned expert on urban design a survey out here saying that it is silly to change the construction of the world because of the kind that its silly to make staircases now 4 meters live it says to lay really wide and theres its a to make very wide sidewalks right now thats hard to say because its going to come back to normal even though now a lot of people when theyre polled are saying they dont feel safe in Public Places and less theres a lot of space around that so theres things that will still change for instance hand washing i wash hands every 5 minutes d. C. Will have hand washing stands in the street slightly halfords as trash cans or as they are is with no balance say you dont have to push a button so you dont have to mean. Maybe but i think we have to look. At that in your house you dont make your house so we speak enough of the daughters we think you make the house servants conference for your knife and if your daughter is going to be married. You squeeze to get a line every fantastic new way or you go to another piece of the way that you seem to about the world may be seeing is too wide and to be and were going to go see about would you like you since you like very much the narrow streets you might like the into missy. You like this mall or the i mean suits you dont like to be in a place known by. High rise towers and the wind is sweeping between the towers and it is seeing his colon and by it because in our. I wasin says and our conceiving space is so that if you have beach spaces you pick them up as cold and impersonal if you have small spaces you peed up as who own and go see and personally when you go on holiday you go to places we have to have small and i mean since when you go to a camping square panting place there are small and i mean since when you go to a sauna consciously best small i mean shoots when you go to south in europe you seek out scenes is was small and nice i mean should you dont go to the places we are not in space like dubai all seems like that with sci fi modern architecture where every scene is too big and to bite you dont feel confidence have you feel you sometimes its nice to see some scenes upbeat and you are more comfortable with a human scale and we cannot leave the human stage behind to have a spaceship corona skate we. Will not be content to me very great heat and we cannot understand why he did it when we had we had been seen for 2 tuberculosis and measles and a number of all the sayings and we dont sing about it again in jest to summarize what youre saying is that people right now should just wait out for corona to disappear for a bit seeing to the care he has otherwise if he put major changes in the way they leave an arsonist. And however it is then were going to regret it afterwards were just summarizing lady sat so we just have to wait out corona right yes and he decent and we have found that we can he still live. In this circuit is the conditions we have we can keep these distances and we can wash away and send we can go on either side of the sidewalk it works well so hes been found sane didnt muck with nothing has been done. In us to behave differently for a while and i see that shows that the scene cd cant be you whos also in a more hissy we just condition we dont have to rebuild the cd and anyway we only build a little portion of the cd every year so if we should be billed the city has he heard of the queues and well have many other listings to sync about if all these hundreds use oh and as far as im concerned we have 2 more important things to sync about one is these climate situation will be have to do something radical rather fast all we will have to bury should be a condition in minute so that when they are listening is what the doctors calls a seating soon dont that is that people driving too much and sitting too much and not using their own body and their own muscles and off and thats why we say today that we should make places so that people walk by city as much as possible and actually spend must time outdoors. Talking about us transport in general because we had this idea that cities around the world are considering their relationship with a car. Focusing on Public Transit for cycling instead ok like a lot of people are saying we dont encourage him to play now im sorry to bring him back to the current virus reality was i dont like either but it is what it is right now kyra cheryl is that your car right now is the new in this new circumstances is the same list transit option do you think that to try and of getting redoes cars is being reversed. Ive heard that befall dont sink well see that because the major problem again is that we will need the systems which are much more. Sustainable and we will help us to combat the Climate Crisis has seen that me is our cities have not cruel enough for all of us to go around but for rob we that was needed a possible. To have room for everybody and it would be a privilege transportation me so thats why i see that in the long run hes seen much more very spots and. Transportation and me c. C. D. Planning along the train station transportation routes rather than these very privatized we will be. Set aside cars will become somewhat like horses now ready for privileged people who could have those horses on their ranches are here but rose moto pokes. Ok but another loser nastier than remember some people dont have rivers in their siddhis. Are it outhe. Yeah. There wouldnt be a need for cars that i have i do think that if we really look at the transportation problem there is a lot of private driving which is not going to be done in all the ways that we need and glances and fire brigades and copies should talk send they leave early. In various ways but theres a lot of especially commuting which can be done in other ways when we started to seeing more. And more sustainable city planning i think that. Actually looking at the end of the era of the fossil fuel fire that notion caught in did. 2000 and search he thats 10 years from now you will not be able to pry any vehicle which is running on gasoline diesel it would have to. Trick us all and more than all we be running on electric and also it is in his don driving more people i see it and have more people use Public Transportation and this is done for the climate and does not change because i believe by us for a period. So let me ask you something everything that were discussing right now right here say citizenship environment they should dance people are finding they learn how to leave the social distance within the reality that we have today. Cars are these recipes that were talking about equally applicable to says i call the haganah or delhi or high no way i mean only that is to have all the sayings public jackass playing storefronts neighborhoods and developing countries have enough resources to spare to spend on days. Im quite i had written about it and i had to be nude all these places and. I think that is to be looking conscious walking bicycling and cheap Public Transportation. Will be there we which will be able to be the sustainable and economically feasible way the mobility problems in the growing sea juice around the world i think that we can never imagine. 7000000000 people leaving his based on motor cars. Not at all theres no room for that on this the globe is too small so well have to we have to fight the. Pain to extend the but i dont and what about we have challenges and then we have to solve the major problems. On urbanization and on bringing out the will in the world so that more people can be lifted them away from the problems he onto livestock and weve found in china and other places that in the cities you were able to have the production which can bring the economy to raise livestock and that is very important in the world then the number of people is free to use and their cities are actually one of the ways this is being solved. Until thank you so much for this amazing view of the world because not everyone has such precise argumentive of the world and why things should be the way that she a staying a breath of fresh air quality you take his cell last for your perspective and for your thoughts i wish you all the best of luck and i didnt tell them we meet in person soon to talk more at all were talking right now youre talking. Come. Face to face so how does it change of. Plans. Was a pandemic no certainly no borders and just bought into nationalities. As americans we dont have a turkey we dont have the facts in the whole world peace to be the chief. Judge and. Come in a crisis like this. We can do better we should be better. Everyone is contributing each other own way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges created with the response has been masked so many good people are helping us. It makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. How is the issue of china playing out in the American Election cycle. And by the trade themselves as being tough on beijing maybe they are at least rhetorically but reality tells a very different story and its bipartisan the commanding heights of industry and finance poured in china for decades and now the riches the show is this china. The u. K. Opposition parties reportedly pushing for broadcast license to be revoked and then linked to britains supposedly independent t. V. Regulator. To you case postscript. The woods. Shadow. 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