Press their claims as move their legal as it wasnt agreed with local authorities. And passed across the line and russia says it has a kovacs even good to go but questions are already coming from the west about how it made such great progress. Neil harvey joins you here in moscow with a fresh bulletin next hour but 1st talk tackles how the current advised pandemic could impact the 2020 u. S. Election. Hello and welcome across the uk where all things are considered im Peter Lawwell according to even fox news trunk is lacking in the polls is this because joe biden is such a brilliant candidate or because of the hardening consensus that has been badly handled by the president still another. Ran as a populist in 2016 as the governor as one. It is gus this and more in denver were joined by ted harvey he is the chairman of the committee to defend the president and a Founding Member of the stop hillary pac and in monterey we crossed the spencer originally he is a former Communications Advisor to obama for america 20082012 as well as a managing partner of Communication Consulting Firm boots rhodes group or at present rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i was appreciated ok lets go to denver 1st to you know im an avid watcher of programs like Tucker Carlson on fox news and and so when i see a Public Opinion polls about donald trump on fox i tend to take take take them very seriously and now we all know that the 2016 polls were off and off enough for the election do come out differently than expected so i really dont want to hear that the polls are off lets talk about what the polls really mean why is the president lagging in the polls. Well i honestly do your original point i dont believe the polls at all i dont think the president is liking it also that at the same pollster for fox news and on october 19th 2016 ahead of Hillary Clinton up by 9 points i think with the current way that we do polling with cell phones and its pretty hard to do an accurate whole but i do believe that the media has done an incredible job of destroying this Administration Since the day he raised his hand and got sworn in it with a Mueller Investigation and with the. Impeachment fiasco and now you have the coronavirus and i think the president of iris very well look while this is the worst thing thats ever so its not surprising that the president s poll numbers are not as strong as they should be when you have the. Entire Media Establishment doing everything they cant. Ok it was spencer the way in there i mean it is so with ted saying its the polls are awful im going to hold my decision on that i mean consistently across the board here that hes doing very orally. It seems to me that its more an issue driven in it seems to me in being an avid watcher of the president it my sense hes kind of lost the plot and he seems to not be in his element like he used to be but back in february and march go ahead. And you know i disagree about the polls its not just the fox news poll there its multiple polls over a long period of time and of course we have to recognize polls are only a sampling of reality and of course they have a margin of error built into them but over time its definitely a trend and i agree i think the president has lost the plot that got him elected and i actually if i may i have a new book called patriots of 2 nations which. Helps especially people on my side of the fence understand support for President Trump beyond the i think over simplified explanations theyre all racists or theyre all ignorant or or whatever and i think ultimately its a different view of reality and he was appealing to a reality that dates back to the founding of the country which is a counter enlightenment view of reality that focuses more on culture and loyalty and faith as opposed to science. Facts and logic and the social contract and i think actually thats what he was appealing to was people who responded to what they saw as an appeal to things like faith and culture but i think hes mistaken a for just the racist element theres certainly an element of racism in support for trump not all of his supporters are racists of course but he seems to be doubling down on the ugliest parts of the basis of court for him and i think thats where hes losing supply lines on the way out as you say you havent thats kind of very definition of the culture wars because you can you can look at it i mean a lot of Trump Supporters and this is look at Mount Rushmore this speech there which i think was one of the best speeches of his presidency and i can understand how some people would interpret it in a very negative light his supporters saw it in a very positive light did let me go back in line same with the mt rushmore speech because i think it was very very interesting if i could just be kind of simplistic here he spoke to the heart and i was very heart rendering speech but were in the middle of an economic turndown in a pandemic he didnt talk much to the stomach and that that would be my fault of doubt speech because you know we can talk about statues all we want but if you dont happen job and you dont have any prospects for a job thats going to stick with you more then talking about stashes go ahead. Well i think we do have a major culture war going on in this country right now where you have the left that has taken over the Democratic Party and theyre trying to destroy everything that this country stands for theyre trying to destroy our Capital Cities im in denver they d have literally destroyed our capital in denver and theyre tearing down statues whether its united or. Whether red whether it is. Abolitionists or whether it is Stevie Ray Vaughn or doesnt matter who the statue is theyre tearing it down because theyre trying to tear down a culture that what the president s speech was was speaking to that culture war that is going on yes there are a lot of jobs that are being lost and i think that the president has done an incredible job with the u. S. Economy even end this Current Situation so i think hes dealing with that but thats the its right there was talking about why is America Great as opposed to all of the other countries in the world because we have the declaration of independence we have a constitution that sets up the individual as as the apex of our government and the Government Works for the individual not the other way around and thats what makes the United States unique and all of Human History and thats why the president s speech was so profound. And mentally im going to agree with you i think that trump won the cultural war in 2016 but i think you can lose it in 2020 because of the economy i still think that that fundamentally is how people going to respond i mean it is not you know im the product of the brown for over 20 years and you know having to explain american politics sometimes can be very difficult because we have a president may have 50 governors now at the end of the day hes you know hes captain of the ship he is responsible for the country but i sometimes worry when he says well these are just democratic cities and things like that and thats you know that is such a divisive thing to in fact. Its actually true but when the commander in chief the leader of the country to say well its their fault i think that really sounds very hollow for a lot of people limor in a National Crisis go ahead and write in the Democratic Senate is fram has balls the Violent Crime rate in the United States has been falling since the early the beginning of the 1990 s. People constantly get encouraged to believe that america is a war zone in the city as an act were safer we better than we bend of course there are areas of the country where theres terrible violence but overall were much safer than weve been in many decades. But again this gets to my larger point i agree about yes its a culture war and it has been a culture war at least since the sixtys but in my book i argue it actually goes back to the fountain country and its its more than disagreement over culture instance agreement over how we define reality itself and this is why liberals often have such a hard time. Arguing especially with Trump Supporters because you know people like me will will come at them with factual. Logic based arguments and miss these other elements and realize that there are many people who support from their different ways and what they would see is a higher way of it finding the truth in many cases or theyre looking at exactly the same phenomenon and will point to be evidence that what youre saying there or what youre doing there is an example of racial bigotry or religious bigotry and theyll say no no no im talking about tradition and im talking about preserving our culture that arguments never going to be resolved the 2 sides will just get more and more entrenched and more and more angry at each other and the extent to which they get on each ones evil is the greatest threat to democracy so in my book i share ways people can start to actually understand where the other charges coming from the sense of the bible i think for me i mean i guess like im going to jump in to the end because because it i truly believe he ready didnt run as an outsider he didnt run as a populist and i helped him for not governing as a populist ok but. Equally. And i think that is millionaires and corporations essentially i think thats his greatest weakness there when you know you tend to in a no win when the 1st wave of the stimulus or bailouts whatever you want to call oh them you know it was Concierge Service for the very rich and powerful it wasnt for main street it wasnt for Middle America and then i was watching senator kennedy on the Morning Program sunday and he was asked point blank you know with whats going on with the next i mean listen bailout is a home maybe itll come maybe it wont i mean it just seems like half the countrys is left let down is that theyre in a huge crisis right now and i dont understand the in action i mean the pump the presidency is the most powerful thing in the presidency as a political it is to be able to stand up and say i want air time and this is how this administration is going to move hell or highwater with the g. O. P. Hes going to do or the democrats why doesnt he do that. Well i do agree with you that he ran as a populist president and thats why he did get elected because he said he would go and help those forgotten americans that the democrats and republicans alike for the last 3 decades have ever left behind and they shipped out their manufacturing jobs around the world and that has led to huge unemployment and the rust belt throughout the country and you look at his policies for the 1st 3 years and he fulfilled all of those policies he did bring back manufacturing jobs he did lower unemployment for africanamericans who are hispanic americans or d. Women around the country those are those are not. Racist policies that spencer keeps talking about those are policies that raise all ships whether whether they are red yellow black and white male or female those are populist policies that got passed and thats why his poll numbers if you look at inside the poll numbers that you are talking about his poll numbers on the economy are still about 55. 6 percent across the board on all of those policies because the American People realize that on that issue he is working hard for all americans a populist policy and it is working when you when you start looking at the way the media has tried to destroy him on the coronavirus and you see that the radical left the leftists that are tearing down our our country in these inner cities yes they are inner cities that are being run by democrat governors democrat mayors that is undeniable that elections have consequences and if you want to have a mayor thats going to tell their police to stand down and let these radicals you have to destroy their cities thats a legitimate argument for the president to make and thats really what this election is going to be about do you want mob rule or do you what the rule of law and thats what this elections going to be about its not going to be about the road so. Spencer go ahead and reply to that sure and you know its not the media thats killing more than 140000 americans are bungling the handling of the coronavirus pandemic and these protests in the cities are almost entirely peaceful and most americans are horrified by the sight of us military especially on mark us military snatching people are the straights this is supposed to be one of the greatest outrages of it all for libertarians and conservatives and i would say that maries and the reason thats the reason that exactly the president is in so much more trouble that you cant you jerry. The reason you lay it inside its my turn its my turn its my turn its my turn to say it im sorry its my turn the reason the president is in trouble in so many polls is again gets back to my thesis i believe that people who have sworn their loyalty under the world the of the people who support him its admirable their loyalty is strong. But on the other hand what will shake that is displays of unworthiness in his case corruption and incompetence that sensor hole that not ready to go to was a short break and well continue our discussion in full state regard. To security. The world is driven by. The dares thinks. We dare to ask. Problem drugs dont always come from unscrupulous dealers but from pharmacies too in every state in the United States we seem very sharp increase in the number of people seeking treatment for addiction to prescription opioids and invented america under the banner of medicine persisted with the pain but instead of trying to wean him off though she just goes after dose after dose after dose and really became his drug dealer so whos to blame patients doctors manufacturers all the governments are. Welcome to cross where all things are considered im purely about to remind you were discussing why trump is lagging in the polls. Ok ted and i want you to respond to what spencer said before we went to the break. Spencers argument that this is just Peaceful Demonstrations is actually ridiculous we wouldnt be having these top discussions about these riots if they were peaceful you go look at the colorado capital and they are all are all capitalists roy there are ways. Those shout out not just legislators cars had their window shot out people are being beaten up all across the country for and healer being beaten up and the cops are being beat now this is not hes full demonstrations this is radical leftists that are trying to destroy the United States and for democrats for spencer to be is essentially apologizing for that tells you where we are as a country that the left the mayor of denver the mayor of portland the marrow of seattle is out there are marching with matter and saying this is ok to be doing this that this is not ok marching is fine in a democracy marching is fine im going to say no i was absolutely fine with the its the job of police to protect some of this maybe once and they arent but the police have been called down and whenever there is violence whenever they are destroying private property these democrats these democrat mayors are telling the police to stand down and thats thats completely irresponsible we have a civilized government to protect the Civil Liberties of our citizens and these mayors in these towns and in these states are not doing. It is spencer you know one of the things that i found really quite disturbing and particularly in the city of minneapolis after all of the destruction i think we all agreed it was a lot of destruction in that city and then they didnt i mean they turn around and they say wait do you want federal assistance when they abandon the precincts into the writers and the looters i mean you know i dont its the reason why im saying that is it this is this. Economic crisis this is pinned down a pandemic then we have the george floyd incident here it is being politicized and i wont deny its being politicized on both sides but this is certainly the left is enjoying this because it is for the 1st time in my humble opinion from is found himself to be a bit paralyzed go ahead and say. This is happening because trump is facing those serious crises weve all been afraid would come along and new would have to come sooner or later but the left is here is certainly not enjoying this nobodys nobody is enjoying that part of what were hearing from ted unfortunately and too often from. The folks who support trump especially people in the media who support trump is the cherry picking of a few emotionally salient stories and using those to substitute for the broader reality and unfortunately this takes advantage of a feature of our the way our minds work were much more you know worried about the single shark that might attack us than about statistics that show that swimming in the ocean is probably safe. And this is one of those cases this is very much a case where almost all of these socalled riots are peaceful protests and the United States of america is founded on the protection of peoples rights to disagree with each other and even engage in civil disobedience if they feel strongly enough as long as they dont engage in violence i by the way have spent many years as part of my experience working with Police Departments including in situations where we had similar situations over issues of police use of force so i think this is an area that i actually know quite a lot about and. Good Police Department their 1st priority is to protect protect the safety of everybody and the department that i would that i was working with and the most serious of these cases their 1st priority in responding to protests was to ensure those protests were peaceful and to protect the safety of protesters many of whom were calling them terrible names thats a real american Police Department so seen what happened and laughing at square in front of the white house one of our most powerful symbols of democracy against peaceful protests was a travesty and it brought shame on our country are willing to do it but since or i think there are people that are using peace the concept and the process of peaceful protesting in there there are a number of people that are abusing it and i think yes im a man nobody supports those people plenty of Video Evidence i mean thats just not talking heads its really quite a riff all right i mean you have you know painting a lot of lives manner on a street and its ok for some people to paint that but then theres other people that come by and say im going to paint over it but theyre the ones that get in trouble for are not the people that are painting on the street in the 1st place i mean if there is its really quite a one sided impractical it literally is that their method authorities are painting on the street by by bare legitimated or their 1st amendment right or the other hurleys you think is right on as a nobody seems to care about property in favor of bad weather in favor of vandalism by the paper anymore but i was not it were. Better all on marc federal troops after band olds in Portland Oregon this is this is kind of its. Own laughter theres no bail ok i mean you know i think theres 2 sides to all of this and you can see how i can understand how both sides get very upset and youve been real quiet. I think its interesting to spencer didnt respond to your the your comment about minneapolis asking for 500000000. 00 for the damage done by the Peaceful Protesters that didnt do anything and ate his will protest that night. The reason why were having these discussions is not because they are peaceful protests yes there are people out there that are protesting peacefully but it is thats not what were talking about were talking about these radical leftists that are destroying private property hurting Police Officers and hurting fellow citizens thats what were talking about were not talking about his protest everybody agrees we should be able to have hes protests and i agree that we should be talking about. Abuses of the Police Department as a state legislator for 30 years here colorado i work very hard to deal with some of these issues that are dealing with Police Brutality but thats not what were talking about here were talking about the radical leftists that are destroying private property are hurting people are tearing down statues and strikes and destroy what it means to be an american and that is what i think will be the chief issue going into the november election is do you want the Democrat Party which has been taken over by the law or do you want the Republican Party and trump that is for the rule of law and i think in the end the American People your average hard working blue collar democrat and an affiliate out there are going to look at those 2 extremes and say we are not these radical leftists that have taken over the Democrat Party thats not the party of. The theres a problem with that me going to spencer here i mean one of the things that i think is really quite sounds knitting is that in in 2016 donald trump was very successful in towering crankin hillary i mean it worked locker up in words ok its almost impossible to do that all. Sleepy joe ok its hard to dislike him i think hes a crook ok and his mom policy decisions for decades i think are her random but nonetheless old sleepy joe the problem is a rock with hillary because it was easy with joe a lot of our fans cool. Sure you know tell you. Who else is doesnt want to see radical leftist take over the Democratic Party is the actual Democratic Party. And their opinion is the end. This is a ruse its a ruse because joe biden. Is he right that you want to see radical of the. Mess this is right its not sticking ive worked with joe biden and like everybody whos work its joe biden i love him hes a wonderful person you can certainly disagree if you like with any and all of his positions and actions during his career i think he was right about a lot of stuff for example the Stimulus Program which he managed as one of the most efficient and corruption free waste free massive Government Programs in our history and yet your way youre right joe biden is just a likable person and he has one of his greatest strengths is that he connects with average americans so effectively Hillary Clinton you know i think the for going to hillary stuff was essentially made up but she made she enabled it she the behavior she engaged in like with the email server invaded this kind of stuff and then you also and then that kind of comment which actually feeds into again. You know this is a problem the left has is coming across as all in their heads and not enough in their hearts and coming across with this sense of well look weve figured this all out scientifically so we know the correct answer and if you dont understand it its because youre a little slow and just let us explain it to you and unfortunately hillary tended to project that kind of attitude that joe biden definitely does not and in fact he has a lot of the populist strengths that donald trump does if he makes a connection with the average person i think this is right president trapped. For 8 of them were wrapping. Even a crime to want for the life of me i dont understand why it doesnt go to the left. And push for a marshall plane i mean really go up i mean its within his power at least who has to push it publicly but if we miss this executive order to buy american joe got it on ahead of him on that its amazing to me its still sitting on trumps desk he wont sign him because hes hes beholden to special interests around him an authentic will to when he ran a review 106518 makes me angry makes me angry because joe was able to get one over on trump because he says one of them will buy and marry him trump has the power but to do it by just the rhetoric. Well i dont ever want donald trump to go to the left of joe biden thats a scary thought know not let me let me just in terms of a stimulus to help middle class people thats what im talking about im not being ideological here im talking about a policy to all they rescue the rich and powerful they need to rescue the middle class that in that sense in that sense only i am a. Conservative in Good Standing my friends dont worry. Well as a as a true conservative i can tell you that i dont want the government to be bailing out as many people as they already have the fact that we have already been 4 trillion dollars to big business now business and people who are out of a chop i am worried about that and the impact thats going to have on the economy moving forward than i am of the role of its i think the fact that you have essentially 5 states that are run by 5 governors that have a 55. 00 democrat governors that are shut down there are economists going into the november election is going to have a greater impact on our world its. Ami not just United States economy but world then anything donald trump to try to solve that problem when you have california shutting down theyre the largest economy in the world and theyre shutting it down that is when you have missed out on rapidly running out of time im just going to have to want to yes no answers from spencer will trump regret the day that congress and he himself as president build up the rich and most powerful the or me straight yes or no yes yes all right gentlemen thats all the time we had just was very spirited i very much enjoyed it i want to thank my guests on a rate end in denver i want to thank our viewers watching as you know are you see you next time remember us of. All no t. V. No crowd. No shots no. Actually felt. Well struck no 1st. Point should your thirst for action. Or not walked straight. To you