Best at the cool. Idea of going to lick. Them on. An ordinary i sat down i. Never start them as the mother and then as she did what i did i miss the hague get a shout then you. Get. A lot of young people know nothing about Julian Assange. You know to Julian Assange do you know anything about this man and what happened to him do you want to know about your data 10 years ago. Wiki leaks with a stockholm lot of information about the crimes that were being committed by western governments play war crimes but mostly the us governments and continually double murder of innocent civilians on. The floor of the country its just pretend and this is the 1st and they didnt think about the economics it kind of forced us to acknowledge its you know we couldnt ignore it. Hes an idealist hes on a mission hes on a mission to harm. People and the information. You can excuse me. But this comes with the crimes im alone isnt being charged. Hes been what he was in the Ecuadorian Embassy for 8 years 7 or 8 in. A long time he spent in prison for basically and that now hes being fair many months in the present. There are a lot of people who dont want him in prison a lot of the very powerful this department is conducting a thorough aggressive investigation to determine how this leak occurred to identify the person or persons responsible. Person. And i think. Thats what hes facing the dishes trying to match the pillared kleist weve got just yet. Obviously reason to suggest that hes trying to expose the crimes that. The. The. I dont think you can really understand Julian Assange. Or wiki leaks without seeing an aspect of his life that formed him and that was absolutely here in melbourne and it formed him not only in terms of his ideas. His personality his expertise but also his conceptual thinking about forming software projects including wiki. So melbourne in the late eightys and early ninetys became the center of the a strain underground which included others and experimenters and also theres not just in the sense of people who broke into things illegally but also people who just experimented with. It didnt take long for australias Hacking Community to embrace the young. Teenagers they spent most of their time online but did occasionally venture out and when they did. This square in central melbourne. This is the Historic Town hall and it was the site along with some other Historic Town halls in melbourne. And other members of that Technology Community were here in their late teens and early twentys shopping for computer bits and exchanging ideas and information about how to experiment with hardware and software. In the. Computer. Memory understanding. I didnt. Just write that he would pay for a short while. One of the worlds most. Its very interesting the hacker mentality from this time period they wanted the thrill of getting into the system that was ted. And the more procedures the in the institution the more thrilled they got so if they could break into now such. Things were the smartest people stay with people who had put man on the moon really if you could break into their systems then you could prove to yourself youre a 17 year old boy you 2 are very smart. The u. S. Space agency nasa is one of the victims of the melbourne computer Hacking Syndicate american investigators including the f. B. I. Contacted a strain authorities with a suspicions. Of the 16989. 00 nassau was attacked by what was known as the wenck virus that caused a Space Shuttle launch in florida to be postponed and was traced to australian hackers in melbourne the way was one of the 1st ever worms that had been written and it was certainly the 1st politically motivated wireman that carried a political message that message was a quote from the Midnight Oil Song and that quote was you talk of times of peace for all and then prepare for war. This thing that was the way. It emerged from a sort of deep dark. Forest you got a glimpse of it and then disappeared again and the authors have never been found although some see this might be one of jewel in a songes. People have lots of different views on these things. Julian was very lucky growing up in that although he grew up in a fairly poor family canonically it was very rich intellectually. Julians father is a very clever and creative person and quite sensitive i think hes been enormously important to julius development as a young adult. As a young man julian was. A daughter actually. Nick and i are were wizard because he would always. Come up with a new approach to things your way of looking at things. What a number of person have said to me is that. They get a different perspective on the world from the systems theyve been in and thats because they are able to see the actual information these are. Directly contradicting what an organization may say publicly or someone a politician may say publicly they understand that the public is being told something that is just not just a little lie often its a very big lie that helped maybe develop enjoins mind. The super importance of Media Organizations being able to report accurately on information. And result my players and having a cup of tea. And im sure to. Fastened 6 or Something Like that quite early on and julian said. Id like to start and we can. Learn this week he would concern it so its only. When we reduce the total as an anonymous from people who want to really information and have that information. Did you try to warn him about anything at that time. No one would you and young man on the cusp of life you dont care for warnings you say well how can i help. What ive always taken natures aphorism. To hide leave diners for me. Leave dangerous we dont creep around place being frightened of shadows. Do what you have to do and then face the consequences as the best you can. Thats me my god all my life. This. Is. Not. The. 60 or 25. That we had burst out the oppositions so. I 1st heard about with nixon you know aside. From the helicopter food scene in iraq the famous was he was where we saw. The helicopter shoot people on the ground. But of all of. Them on. Their on. The Helicopter Shot up some civilians and in the process shot to his job just to local war his job and they also shot up some children in a car. Bomb around the area going to. American military personnel misidentified civilians as rebels. From overhead and it looked as though one of the men had a gun. But it was just a reuters camera man holding. The what. Did they saw the collateral but mortar b. T. O. Said he as we know for get enough for again because a school it was what the 1st time as i was screaming loud at my own feast this the soldiers are us with dissed emotional detachment as they were playing video games and me with the lives of people in in such a cool way. Here is actual shocking video footage fact irrefutable evidence of what happened and what has been described to me by one retired military person actually here in australia as undoubtedly a war crime and want to have one. Day off to the shooting of july 13th 2007 u. S. Military commanders justified the attack claiming that its troops had been in battle with Hostile Forces guy that might serve over. Approaching a big and im a body. But 2 children well that they were in a van when their father approached the side of the shooting to help thomas horn we have individuals going. To monitor. That roger and. Thats whats really fascinating for me was when i saw an interview with an american soldier who was there on that spot after they. Killed them and shot them then it was the young. Army officer who went to the van and discovered that there were 2 children at that were wounded and he said the little girl couldnt blink because her eyes were full of grass and he tried to turn the cross from our eyes when he spoke to his supervisor and wanted to take her to a decent hospital he was told wash out you know for john up. For the 1st time we understood. Disability and casualties the innocent people who were killed in both afghanistan and iraq and this was all kept from the public. Showing sons showed real bravery in being willing to publish frankly and fearlessly that is idio and i think that there are people within the u. S. Military who have never forgiven him for it. That helicopter attack resulted in 12 to 18 deaths 2 children were wounded no one from the American Military has ever been held accountable. Well the pandemic no certainly no borders im just glad to nationalities. As americans we dont come with the we dont look like the whole world needs to take these. People. Judging. Coming every crisis least. We can do better we should. Everyone is contributing each of our own way but we also know that this crisis not go on forever the challenges create the response has been much so many good people are helping us. It makes us feel very proud that were in it together. The world is driven by shaped by. The dares thinks. We dare to ask. You a few months ago most people and their website. Here is going to. Leave us the only of the kind of revelation on the any one site. Small slip one piece of the news after. Julian assange revealed his identity and was known i mean it was front page news all over the world at that point. Julian assange has become a halt global topic but hed found a way to publish classified information and made it available to anyone who wanted to share someone elses secrets. The idea of developing an anonymous digital dropbox and applying it to a Media Organization that is wiki leaks that was the 1st people hadnt really done that before that was that was Julian Assange which. Enabled the whistleblower who were. Low cost with just the right. Use of the right tools to anonymously. Blow the whistle by transmitting like large amounts of data. Today. We released only 287. 00. Documenting the reality of me into. National mass surveillance industry. Here has. Been has a blackberry. He uses email. Well youre all screwed. What is this place then where were all those files actually kept. Their talent is somewhere. Julian magically brought together. Computers digitalize asian and information and put before the public. When someone called you know songs knocked on the door from my club i was quite pleased to see him i was quite keen that we would have somebody who was making the news. My names form smith no im a journalist. But more i run something called the front line from which i founded which is a press club and. It all happened in this room i mean julian literally turned off and knocked on the door and literally unannounced he knocks on the door 2 days before that press conference saying i want a press conference on Julian Assange quite literally and so we arrange the press conference for him and it was on a monday morning he was standing to him. He was up here and we had a podium we have the podium and we had it here and he was standing here and its from this position he raised up the guardian front page. And you know thats when the whole thing started so this is the guardian from this morning 40. 40 pages about this topic. Carsley in the spiegel 17 pages. Just a couple of months after the video of the bad. Helicopter attack against civilians was published yet mullen revelations appeared this time it was the afghanistan and iraq dossier as. The afghanistan and iraq does the us classified pentagon files on u. S. And allied military activity in afghanistan and iraq from 2004 to 2009. These were logs that were written by members of the military who might be out at the front door but trolling an area and might be things theyve seen or accepting they experienced on their shift or patrol so it was almost a sort of. A very detailed war diary. By the americans and the british in but it didnt occur to me that it could be so informative. The because it was a huge data sets 400000 classified reports field reports by the u. S. Army this is the most accurate description of the war that is it was being released into the historic record we are counted now 122000 sunni treasure teams in the war is nearly no Street Corner in baghdad that didnt have a body found that being killed 3 violence in one form or another from what we found out from iraq and afghanistan dosias the u. S. And its allies allegedly under reported civilian casualties prisoners of war was subjected to violent acts of torture of the u. S. Military personnel who were reportedly involved in child prostitution. And you have publishes publishing secrets the government starts losing control of the narrative that had a narrative in iraq. No civilian did and then they lost control of that narrative because. Found out the truth. Thats the power of we hear. The battlefield consequences of the release of these documents are potentially severe and dangerous for our troops our allies and afghan partners and may well damage our relationships and reputation in that key part of the world and one of the main criticisms thats being leveled at you is that you have published the village is that the names and some cases the g. P. S. Coordinates of people afghans who cooperated with the u. S. Military and a u. S. Official has called it a potential hit list for the taliban whats your response to that is there was some piece to mostly between your peter where were looking at the mission seriously to see where that is true and approach the white house to also think her assistance in reviewing material before we published the war you know its hard to accept that request they always say oh they have blood on their hands and they get people in danger but i think if anyone would have been killed because they would have dragged to the person in front of the camera all proved it taken against them sold i think its just a blatant lie is it possible that the 1st tranche from the afghan war logs could have been better redacted yes quite probably they could have been better protected had anyone ever done this before no there was no road that. I mean telling the sunshine wiki leaks they were bushwhacking through a thick forest to try and figure out how to do this. The afghanistan and iraq dont see just what the biggest leak of a shown along tone of war crimes allegedly perpetrated by the u. S. Can do. No one from americas military has ever been held accountable. And. Looked into. Over 10 years ago i was contacted by. A person. Who i didnt know at that point in time at all. Wanted to meet with me and they met a. Person who spoke with a very strong in australian accent and he told me that they had a Problem Program of they wanted to do a project. When we met. My initial. Feeling was that this was. Completely outlandish that there was nothing to it so we parted way but we kept contact and a little bit later. Came the publications of the collateral murder video where you can see helicopter gun down thats a u. S. Helicopter in iraq gunning down reuters journalists on an open street and so when i realized that he was serious about isnt ever. Julian assange invited yohannes to work with him on a new collection of classified documents that had fallen into wiki leaks hands. This time correspondence from the United States diplomatic service. Diplomatic cables. That we can leaks published a little bit later they were a set of internal look briefings if you put it this way or analysis. That all of the american diplomats. Wrote and delivered back to the state department. And 166. 00 to 2010 and includes 100000 documents marked confidential and 15000. 00 marked secret. You have to understand the scale of all this release of information if we took these cables and we printed them out into and they would go betweens in petersburg and moscow does that much material. I can give you a simple example of what was interesting in those cables in regard to sweden because i worked with the materials that were related in these documents we can see here and thats which politicians are going to come to the u. S. Ambassador and they ask for services for the services they would ask for would be. We have a problem with the swedish Public Opinion they would say and the swedish Public Opinion doesnt like the war in afghanistan and they dont want us to participate and they werent going to stop could you please help us there by inviting him some afghani women here to sweden and well put them on the swedish t. V. So they can talk about the good things that were doing there suddenly you we found out the. Swedish politicians and swedish Public Servants undercutting the way that would be democracy is supposed to function and theyre doing that together with them with you with this diplomats contrary to the interests of the swedish people one of the hopeful things that ive discovered. Is that every war that is thought of him. As being a result of. Meeting on what does that mean. That means basically populations by michael. And populations have to be fooled into will. Be. Treated as an enemy combatant which really should be closed down permanently and decisively different for it to reduce any broken every law unit being elitist was what hotel is that. Going on in the service its not that its open up that middle or a good elysia. Julian was at his height of popularity when sweden. That he had to. Its understandable that he would be attractive to young women hes. A young man and bruce said. Very high and noble noble ambitions the so that made him even more attractive. Seemed wrong. Just dont hold. Me. To shape out just being cut out to kill and gain from it equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. Law and from the World Headquarters of our t. America in our Nations Capital this is the news with rick sanchez hi everybody im rick sanchez i want to welcome all of you who are watching us from all over the world including those of you who are watching us on your phone on the portable t. V. 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