A lot of young people know nothing about Julian Epstein joe weve. You know to Julian Assange do you know anything about this man and what happened to him do you want to know bad bad 10 years ago. Wiki leaks released a whole lot of information about the crimes that were being committed by. A war crimes about mostly the us governments and particularly the murder of innocent civilians on. The shore of the country its just pretend and this is the 1st and i didnt think about it kind of forced us to acknowledge it you know we couldnt ignore it. Hes an idealist hes on a mission hes on a mission to empower people to information. You can excuse me. But this comes with the crimes im alone isnt being charged. Hes been what he was in the Ecuadorian Embassy for 8 years 7 or 8 in. A long time hes spending time in prisons basically and that now hes being fair many months in the present. There are a lot of people who dont want him in prison a lot of the very powerful this department is conducting a thorough aggressive investigation to determine how this leak could occur to identify the person or persons responsible. Person. And i think thats what hes facing the dishes trying to match the pillar and look weve got judge it. Harvey any reason to suggest that hes not hes trying to expose the crimes that. I dont think you can really understand Julian Assange. Or wiki leaks without seeing an aspect of his life that informed him and that was absolutely here in melbourne and it formed him not only in terms of his ideas. His personality his expertise but also his conceptual thinking about forming software projects including wiki. So melbourne in the late eightys and early ninetys became the center of the a strain underground which included others and experimenters and also. Not just in the sense of people who broke into things illegally but also people who just experimented with. It didnt take long for australias Hacking Community to embrace the young. Teenagers they spent most of their time online but did occasionally venture out and when they did. This square in central melbourne. This is the Historic Town hall and it was the site along with some other sort town halls in melbourne. And other members of that Technology Community were here in their late teens and early twentys shopping for computer bits and exchanging ideas and information about how to experiment with hardware and software. On this. Used to memory understanding. I didnt. Just write that he would pay for a short while. One of the worlds most. Its very interesting the hacker mentality from this time period they wanted the thrill of getting into the system that was taboo. And the more procedures the in the institution the more thrilled they got so if they could break into now such. Things were the smartest people stay with people who had put man on the moon really if you could break into their systems then you could prove to yourself youre a 17 year old boy you 2 are very smart. The u. S. Space agency nasa is one of the victims of the melbourne computer Hacking Syndicate american investigators including the f. B. I. Contacted a stray you know thorough g. s with a suspicions. Of the 16th 1989 nasa was attacked by what was known as the wang virus it caused a Space Shuttle launch in florida to be postponed and was traced to australian hackers in melbourne the way was one of the 1st ever worms that had been written and it was certainly the 1st politically motivated wireman that carried a political message that message was a quote from the Midnight Oil Song and that quote was you talk of times of peace for all and then prepare for war. This thing that was the way. It emerged from a sort of deep dark. Forest you got a glimpse of it and then disappeared again and the authors have never been found although some see this might be one of jewel in a songes. People have lots of different views on these things. Julian was very lucky growing up in that although he grew up in a fairly poor family canonically it was very rich intellectually. Julians father is a very clever and creative person and quite sensitive i think hes been enormously important to julius development as a young adult. As a young man julian was. A go are actually. Nick and i am. Reserved because he would always. Come up with a near approach to things your way of looking at. What a number of top person have said to me is that. They get a different perspective on the world from the systems theyve been in and thats because they are able to see the actual information these are. Directly contradicting what an organization may say publicly or someone a politician may say publicly they understand that the public is being told something that is just not just a little lie often its a very big lie that helped maybe develop enjoins mind. Of the super importance of Media Organizations being able to report accurately on information. And. Players and weve come. To yours. And im sure to. Fastened 6 or Something Like that quite early on then youre right and julian said. Id like to start and we can. Learn this week he would concern it so certainly. And we reduce the total as an anonymous from people who wanted to name information and that information coming. Did you try to warn him about anything at that time. No one would you young man on the cusp of life you dont care for warnings you say well how can i help. But ive always taken natures aphorism. To hide leave diners for me. To leave dangerous we dont creep around the place being frightened of shadows. Do what you have to do and then face the consequences as the best you can. Thats me my god i owe my life. This. Is. Not an. Excuse or 2560. That we had burst out why positions so. I 1st heard about with nixon you know aside. From the helicopter food chain in iraq the famous bush years where we saw. The helicopter shoot people on the ground. But of all of your average come on. The Helicopter Shot up some civilians and in the process shot to his job this 2 local forces jones and they also shot up some children in a car. Or 2 minor. Grown around the area where. American military personnel misidentified civilians and rebels. From overhead it looked as though one of the men had a gun. But it was just a reuters camera man holding along. The way. They saw the collateral but mortar b. T. O. A city as we know for get. Just for again because they escaped it was what the 1st time as i was screaming loud at my own feast this the soldiers are us with dissed emotional detachment as they were playing video games and me with the life of people in such a cool way. Here is actual shocking video footage fact irrefutable evidence of what happened and what has been described to me by one retired military person actually here in australia as undoubtedly a war crime i want to welcome one. Day off to the shooting of july 13th 2007 u. S. Military commanders justified the attack claiming that its troops had been in battle with Hostile Forces guy that might serve over. Approaching a figure not the body. But 2 children well that they were in a van when the father approached the scene of the shooting to help to mr horn we have individual going. To monitor. That roger and. Thats whats really fascinating for me was when i saw an interview with an american soldier who was there on that spot after they. Killed them and shot them then it was the young. Officer who went to the van and discovered that there were 2 children at that were wounded and he said the little girl couldnt blink because her eyes were full of prosody tried to remove the cross from our eyes when he spoke to his supervisor and wanted to take her to a decent hospital he was told wash out you know for john up. To the 1st time when stored disability in casualties the innocent people who were killed in both afghanistan and iraq and this was all kept from the public. Doing sons showed real bravery in being willing to publish frankly and fearlessly that is idio and i think that there are people within the us military who have never forgiven him for it. That helicopter attack resulted in 12 deaths 2 children one that. No one from the American Military has ever been held accountable. Syria has been engulfed in civil war for almost 10 years it cost hundreds of thousands of lives and displaced millions more no one foresaw the peaceful protests of 20 is collating into a complex conflict between various armies geopolitical interests rebel groups and jihadists. They are on the dock on this. But if you tell us if you say you hate the. Message the look cool. You know deep complex. And ordinary as south and i. Never statham as them other than the shade but i leave them with the hate. 2 months ago most of them are going to cite. The theories here if youre interested in hearing founder Julian Assange the only analyst on credible revelation on the wiki one site c. N. N. Small room. With hes going to this is after collateral Julian Assange revealed his identity and was known i mean it was front page news all over the world at that point. Only to Julian Assange to become a hold global topic but hed found a way to publish classified information and made it available to anyone who wanted to share someone elses secrets the idea of developing an anonymous digital dropbox and applying it to a Media Organization that is wiki leaks that was the 1st people hadnt really done that before that was that was Julian Assange. Enabled the whistleblower who were. Low cost with just the right couldnt. Use of the right tools to anonymously. Blow the whistle by transmitting like large amounts of data. The day we released over 287. Documenting the reality on the International Mass surveillance industry. Who here has an eye for. You here has a blackberry or. He uses g. Mail. Well youre all screwed. What is this place and where were all those files actually kept. In the cloud its somewhere. Julian magically brought to. A computer just digit. I was irish and and information and before but. When someone called you know songs knocked on the door from my own club i was quite pleased to see him i was quite keen that we would have somebody who was making the news. My names form smith im a journalist. But more i run something called the front line from which i founded which is a press club and. It all happened in this room i mean julian literally turned up and knocked on the door and literally only announce he knocks on the door 2 days before that press conference saying i want a press conference on Julian Assange quite literally and so we arrange the press conference for him and it was on a monday morning he was standing here. He was up here and we had a podium we have that podium and we had it here and he was standing here and its from this position he raised up the guardian front page. And you know thats when the whole thing started so this is the guardian from this morning 40. 40 pages about this topic. Also karzai in the spiegel 70 pages. Just a couple of months after the video of the baghdad helicopter attack against civilians was published yet more revelations appeared this time it was the afghanistan and iraq dossier as. The afghanistan and iraq does he knows classified pentagon files on u. S. And allied military activity in afghanistan and iraq from 2004 to 2009. These were logs that were written by members of the military who might be out at the front or patrolling in the area and might be things safe seen or experienced on their shift or patrol. So it was almost a sort of. A very detailed war diary. By the americans in the british. Army that it could be so informative. Because it was a huge data sets 400000 plus 5 reports field reports part of the u. S. Army this is the most accurate description in all hold that is if it being released into the story we are counted now 120000 sunni triangle teams in the war theres nearly no Street Corner in baghdad that didnt have a body that fell into being killed 3 vanzant one form or another. But what we found out from iraq and afghanistan dosia is the u. S. Is allegedly under reported civilian casualties prisoners of war was subjected to violent acts of torture of u. S. Military personnel who were reportedly involved in child prostitution. And you have published this publishing secret and the government starts losing control of the narrative that had a narrative in iraq and no civilian did. And then they lost control of that narrative because we found out the truth. Thats the power of what he ate the battlefield consequences of the release of these documents are potentially severe and dangerous for our troops our allies and afghan partners and may well damage our relationships and reputation in that key part of the world and one of the main criticisms thats being leveled at you is that you have. The village is that the names and in some cases the g. P. S. Coordinates of people afghans who cooperated with the u. S. Military and a u. S. Official has called it a potential hit list for the top. And whats your response to that there was appears to mostly be a paedophile ring where were looking at the issue seriously to see whether that is true and approach the white house to austin for assistance in reviewing material before we publish the white house in order to accept that request they always say oh they have blood on their hands and they get people in danger but i think if anyone would have been killed because of we killings they would have dragged to the person in front of the camera all proved it or taken it against them sold i think its just a blatant lie is it possible that the 1st tranche of dollars have from the afghan war logs could have been better redacted yes quite probably they could have been better protected had anyone ever done this before no there was no road that. I mean to insult them wiki leaks they were bushwhacking through a thick forest to try and figure out how to do this. The afghanistan and iraq dont see just what the biggest leak of a plan shown along its own war crimes allegedly perpetrated by the us can digitalize. No one from americas military has ever been held accountable. And. A little bit over 10 years ago i was contacted by. A person. Who i didnt know at that point environmental. Wanted to meet with me and i met a. Person who spoke with a very strong australian accent and he told me that they had a Problem Program if it wanted to do a project. When we met. My in the. Feeling was that this was. Completely outlandish and there was nothing do it so we parted way but we kept called. Ect and a little bit later. Came the publications of the collateral murder video where you can see helicopter gun down thats a u. S. Helicopter in iraq gunning down reuters journalists in an open street and so when i realized that he was serious about isnt ever. Julian assange invited yohannes to work with him on a new collection of classified documents that had fallen into wake unix hands. This time correspondence from the United States diplomatic service. And diplomatic cables. That we can leaks published a little bit later they were a set of internal briefings if you put it this way or analysis. That all of the american diplomats. Wrote and delivered back to the state department. Leaked u. S. Diplomatic cables published on november 28th 2010 it contains u. S. Diplomatic correspondents from 966. 00 to 2010 and includes 100000 documents marked confidential and 15000. 00 marked secret. You have to understand the scale of all this release of information if we took these cables and we printed them out into it and they would go betweens in petersburg and moscow it is that much material i can give you. A simple example of what was interest in those cables in regard to sweden because i worked with the materials that were related in these documents we could see here and thats which politicians are going to come to the u. S. Ambassador and they ask for services for the services they would ask for when we leave. We have a problem with this we are sure of Public Opinion. They would say and the swedish Public Opinion doesnt like the war in afghanistan and they dont want us to participate in the war is going to stop could you please help us there by inviting in some afghani women here to sweden and well put them on the swedish t. V. So they can talk about the good things that were doing in their southern new year we found out that. Swedish politicians and swedes are sure Public Servants undercutting the way the 2 democracy is supposed to function and theyre doing that together with them with us said diplomats contrary to the interests of the swedish people one of the hopeful things that ive discovered. Is that really every war that is thought of. As being a result of. Mediocrity what does that mean. That means basically populations but. Populations have to be fooled and will. Be. Treated as an enemy combatant which really should be closed down properly and decisively designed to reduce any broken every little unit big book even if it was like a hotel the things that. Are going on in the service its not that its open up in the middle of it good elysia. Julian was at his height of popularity when sweden. Vats he attracted. A most ladies. Its understandable that he would be attractive to young men and hes. 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