The story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly its time to do news again. A lot of young people know nothing about Julian Assange. You know to Julian Assange do you know anything about this man and what happened to him do you want to know about your show that its 10 years ago. Wiki leaks with a stockholm lot of information about the crimes that were being committed by western governments they war crimes but mostly the us governments and particularly the murder of innocent civilians. Or of their country just pretend to know and this is the 1st and i think thing about it kind of forced us to acknowledge its you know we couldnt ignore him. Hes an idealist hes on a mission hes on a mission to empower people to information. You can excuse me. But this comes with the crimes im alone isnt being charged. Hes made while he was in the Ecuadorian Embassy for 8 years 7 or 8 in. A long time hes spending time in prisons basically and that now hes being fair many months in the present. There are a lot of people who dont want him in prison a lot of the very powerful this department is conducting a thorough aggressive investigation to determine how this leak could occur to identify the person or persons responsible. Person. And i think. Thats what hes facing the dishes trying to much older brother clive gamble week stateside. Obviously reason to suggest that hes not hes trying to. I dont think you can really understand Julian Assange. Or wiki leaks without seeing an aspect of his life that formed him and that was absolutely here in melbourne and it formed him not only in terms of his ideas. His personality his expertise but also his conceptual thinking about forming software projects including working. So melbourne in the late eightys and early ninetys became the center of the a strain underground which included cars and experimenters and also. In the sense of people who broke into things illegally but also people who just experimented with a. Few didnt take long for australias Hacking Community to embrace the young. Teenagers they spent most of their time online but did occasionally venture out and when they did. This square in central melbourne. This is the Historic Town hall and it was the site along with some other sort town halls in melbourne. And other members of that Technology Community were here in their late teens and early twentys shopping for computer bits and exchanging ideas and information about how to experiment with hardware and software. On this. Computer. Person to. Use the memory understanding. To do. Just that he would be for a short while. One of the worlds most. Its very interesting the hacker mentality from this time period they wanted the thrill of getting into the system that was tempted. And the more procedures the in the institution the more thrilled they got so if they could break into announce a computer these were the smartest people stay with people who had put man on the moon really if you could break into their systems then you could prove to yourself youre a 17 year old boy you 2 are very smart. The u. S. Space agency nasa is one of the victims of the melbourne computer Hacking Syndicate american investigators including the f. B. I. Contacted a strain authorities with a suspicions. Of the 16989. 00 nasa was attacked by what was known as the wang virus it caused a Space Shuttle launch in florida to be postponed and was traced to australian hackers in melbourne the way was one of the 1st ever worms that had been written and it was certainly the 1st politically motivated wireman that carried a political message that message was a quote from the Midnight Oil Song and that quote was you talk of times of peace for all and then prepare for war. This thing that was the way. It emerged from a sort of deep dark. Forest you got a glimpse of it and then disappeared again and the authors have never been found although some see this might be one of jewel in a songes. People have lots of different views on these things. Julian was very lucky growing up in that although he grew up in a fairly poor family canonically it was very rich intellectually. Julians father is a very clever and creative person and quite sensitive i think hes been enormously important to Julians Development as a young adult. As a young man joanne was. A daughter her choice. Is nick and i am. Reserved because she would always. Come up with a new approach to things your way of looking at. What a number of person have said to me is that. They get a different perspective on the world from the systems theyve been in and thats because they are able to see the actual information these are. Directly contradicting what an organization may say publicly or someone a politician may say publicly they understand that the public is being told something that is just not just a little lie often its a very big lie that helped maybe develop enjoins mind. Of the super importance of Media Organizations being able to report accurately on information. And result my players and cup of tea. Or to. Fastened 6 or Something Like that quite early on anyway and joey and said. Id like to stop them we can. Learn this week he would concern it so its only. When we would use 3. As an anonymous from people who wanted to name information and that information. Did you try to warn him about anything at that time. No one would you and young man on the cusp of life you dont care warnings to say well how can i help. You ive always taken natures aphorism. To hide leave dangerous for me. To leave dangerous we dont creep around place being frightened of shadows. Do what you have to do and then face the consequences as the best you can. Thats me my god oh my god. This. Is. Not. To say. 60 or 2560. That we had burst out why positions so. I 1st heard about with nukes and you know aside. From the helicopter fuji in iraq the famous was he was where we saw. The helicopter shoot people on the ground. But of all of your average come on. The Helicopter Shot up some civilians and in the process shot to his job just to local forces jones and they also shot up some children in a car. Bomb around the area going to their friends. Or even more. American military personnel misidentified civilians and rebels. From overhead it looked as though one of the men had a gun. But it was just a reuters camera man holding. The what. Did they saw the collateral but mortar b. T. O. Said he as we know for get. The forget because they escaped it was what the 1st time as i was screaming loud at my own feast these. Soldiers are us with dissed emotional detachment as they were playing video games and me with the lives of people in in such a cool way. Here is actual shocking video footage fact irrefutable evidence of what happened and what has been described to me by one retired military person actually here in australia as undoubtedly a war crime i want to welcome i want to go off to the shooting of july 13th 2007 u. S. Military commanders justified the attack claiming that its troops had been in battle with Hostile Forces guy that might serve over. Approaching a figure not the body. But 2 children well that they were in a van when the father approached the scene of the shooting to help to mr horn we have individuals going. To monitor. Roger and. Want to. Learn what. Was really fascinating for me was when i saw an interview with an american soldier who was there on that spot after they killed them and shot them and then it was the young. Officer who went to the van and discovered that there were 2 children at that were wounded and he said the little girl couldnt blink because her eyes were full of grass and he tried to bring the cross from out eyes when he spoke to his supervisor and wanted to take her to a decent hospital he was told wash out you know for john up. To the 1st time when to stored disability in casualties the innocent people who were killed in both afghanistan and iraq and this was all kept from the public. Showing sons showed real bravery in being willing to publish frankly and fearlessly that is idio and i think that there are people within the u. S. Military who have never forgiven him for it. That helicopter attack resulted in 12 to 18 deaths 2 children were wounded no one from the American Military has ever been held accountable. The world is driven by a dream shaped by one person and those with. The dares thinks. We dare to ask. You can be bold with the yeah you like. Move move move move move move move move move months ago muslim member of the website is in the. Area and inserting founder Julian Assange the only in the panel even more revelation time when you must sign a genius motion. With these 2 that you know this is after collateral Julian Assange revealed his identity and was known i mean it was front page news all over the world at that point. Only to Julian Assange has become a hot global topic but hed found a way to publish classified information and made it available to anyone who wanted to share someone elses secrets. The idea of developing an anonymous digital dropbox and applying it to a Media Organization that is wiki leaks that was the 1st people hadnt really done that before that was that was Julian Assange. It enabled the whistleblower who were at low cost with just the right couldnt d. V. D. And the use of the right tools to anonymously. Blow the whistle by transmitting like large amounts of data. Today we release over 287. Documenting the reality of an International Mass surveillance industry. Here has. Been has a black berry. Uses g. Mail. Well youre all screwed. What is this place and where were all those files actually kept. In the cloud its somewhere. In the julian magically. Computers digitalized and information and before we. Know when someone called you know songs knocked on the door from one club i was quite pleased to see him i was quite keen that we would have. Somebody who was making the news. My names form smith im a journalist. But more i run something called the Frontline Club which i founded which is a press club for justice and. It all happened in this room i mean julian literally turned off and knocked on the door and literally on the announce he knocks on the door 2 days before that press conference saying i want a press conference on Julian Assange quite literally and so we arranged a press conference for him and it was on a monday morning he was standing here. He was up here and we had a podium we had that podium and we had it here and he was standing here and its from this position he raised up the guardian front page. And you know thats when the whole thing started so this is the guardian from this morning 40. 40 pages about this topic. Also karzai in the spiegel 17 pages. Just a couple of months after the video of the baghdad helicopter attack against civilians was published yet more revelations appeared this time it was the afghanistan and iraq dossier as. The afghanistan and iraq does he was classified pentagon files on u. S. And allied military activity in afghanistan and iraq from 2004 to 2009. These were logs that were written by members of the military who might be out at the front or patrolling in the area and might be things safe seen or accepting they experienced on their shift or patrol so it was almost a sort of a very detailed war diary. By the americans and the british in but it didnt occur to me that it could be so informative. The because it was a huge data sets. 400000 classified reports field reports by the u. S. Army these use the most accurate description in all hold it is equivalent being released into storage and we are counted now 120000 in the sunni triangle teams in the war theres nearly no Street Corner in baghdad didnt have a body that fell into being killed 3 violence in one form or another if what we found out from iraq and afghanistan dosias the u. S. Hundreds of lonnies allegedly under reported civilian casualties prisoners of war was subjected to violent acts of torture of u. S. Military personnel who were reportedly involved in child prostitution. When you have published his publishing secrets the government stops losing control of the narrative that had a narrative in iraq. No civilian did. And then they lost control of that narrative because we found out the truth. Thats the power of what he ate the battlefield consequences of the release of these documents are potentially severe and dangerous for our troops our allies and afghan partners and may well damage our relationships and reputation in that key part of the world the one of the main criticisms as being leveled at you is that you have published the village is that the names and in some cases the g. P. S. Coordinates of people afghans who cooperated with the u. S. Military and a u. S. Official has called it a potential hit list for the taliban whats your response to that is there was some peers to mostly be mean youre beat up i mean where were looking at the issue seriously to see whether that is true or purge the white house to austin for assistance in reviewing material before we published the white house. The dogs are accept their request they always say oh they have blood on their hands and they get people in danger but i think if anyone would have been killed because of we killings they would have dragged to the person in front of the camera all proved it taken against them or sold i think its just a blatant lie is it possible that the 1st tranche of data from the afghan war logs could have been better redacted guessed quite probably they could have been better protected had anyone ever done this before no there was no road that. I mean to insult them wiki leaks they were bushwhacking through thick forest to try and figure out how to do this. The afghanistan and iraq dont see just what the biggest leak they have a plan shone a light on war crimes allegedly perpetrated by the us can digitalize. No one from americas military has ever been held accountable. And. A little bit over 10 years ago i was contacted by. A person. Who or didnt know at that point environmental. Wanted to meet with me and they met a. Person who spoke with a very strong australian accent and he told me that they had a Problem Program of they wanted to do a project. When we met. My initial. Feeling was that this was. Completely outlandish that there was nothing to it so we parted way but we kept contact and a little bit later. Came the publications for the collateral murder video where you could see helicopter. Thats a u. S. Helicopter in iraq gunning down reuters journalists. On open street and so when i realized that he was serious about isnt ever. Julian assange invited yohannes to work with him on a new collection of classified documents that had fallen into wiki leaks hands. This time correspondence from the United States diplomatic service. And diplomatic cables. That we can leaks published a little bit later they were a set of internal briefings if you put it this way or analysis. That all of the american diplomats. Brought and delivered back to the state department. Leaked u. S. Diplomatic cables published on november the 28th 2010 it contains u. S. Diplomatic correspondents from 966. 00 to 2010 and includes 100000 documents marked confidential and 15000. 00 marked secret. We have to understand the scale of this release of information the if we took these cables and we printed them out into and they would go betweens in petersburg and moscow does that much material i can give you a simple example of what was interesting in those cables in regard to sweden because i worked with the materials that were related in these documents we could see here and thats which politicians are going to come to the u. S. Ambassador and they ask for services and the services they would ask for would be. We have a problem with this we are sure of Public Opinion they would sit there because we have Public Opinion doesnt like the war in afghanistan and they dont want us to participate in the war afghanistan could you please help us by inviting some afghani women here to sweden and well put them on swedish to. So they can talk about the good things that were doing there saw them the year we found out the. Swedish politicians and swedes are sure as Public Servants theyre cutting the way the would be democracy is supposed to function and theyre doing that together with them with us and diplomats contrary to the interests of the swedish people one of the hopeful things that ive discovered. Is that really every war that is thought of. As being a result of. Mediocrity what does that mean. That means basically populations by market. And populations have to be fooled and will. Be. 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