Social order will be more stable and the Business Environment will improve which is conducive to the prosperity and stability of hong kong but chambers of commerce are warning that businesses could violate the law without even realizing it that includes supporting any nonprofit or profit or charitable work that is deemed to be a violation of the law joining us now to discuss this bus cohosted investigative journalist ben swan and Geoffrey Tucker the editorial director with the American Institute for Economic Research thank you so much for joining us both of you ben i actually want to start with you in terms of what is happening with hong kong what are we seeing from Business Owners and how are they responding to this. Well i think everyones kind of responding to this as if theyre walking on egg shells right you have to be very careful because again that the terminology thats being used quite frankly to describe the this National Security law and the things that its putting down secession or anything that violates National Security or creates these dangerous essentially thought crimes if you will or speech crimes if you will means that you dont really know exactly what constitutes a crime and what doesnt the other thing thats important is that Hong Kong Police are not the ones in force in this its being enforced by beijing so we already see like for instance there are some shop owners in hong kong who there was one in particular who has a Clothing Store he had a statue was centrally set up inside of a protester to kind of recognizing the protesters who have been pushing back against the government there and and calling for government reform immediately taking that image down in his store as soon as this law was passed on tuesday because he knew that if that happened he could face penalties for it so essentially its a totalitarian approach to say if you Say Something that the Chinese Government deems as being a National Security threat we can find you we can confiscate property we can essentially take away the funds that you make as a business its a chilling atmosphere i think for merchants working and Business Owners working in hong kong you know jeffrey how do you actually see this i mean the law is it could force certain businesses especially western businesses to avoid hong kong will this law and hong kongs dominance as asias Main Financial hub because officials there are saying its going to be good for the economy. You know i dont i dont know for sure that its going to be good for the economy the problem is the end of the china model you have supposed to be able to have political totalitarianism and free markets but weve not actually seen that work in china and and i dont think its going to work in hong kong either i think this is a grave threat actually to hong kong future and the real tragedy to me is that the u. S. Has given up. All leverage over the situation relationship is terrible and china is using the annoyance and anger of the u. S. To move the n. On hong kong and actually threatens you know this beautiful place thats been striving for so long and actually i think its an existential threat to hong kong and to the businesses that are operating there you know jeffrey i actually want to clarify what youre saying there so youre saying that because we have these tensions may be over why are way over a trade deal over economic situations where the china that that actually reduces the u. S. Is ability to actually weigh in on this situation to be taken seriously. Look i think in many ways the blame for whats happened in hong kong right now is really should be addressed in par with the washington d. C. I mean for 4 years now its been one attack after another has been tariffs weve been been driving this wedge between us and china and thats made china annoyed and its broken down our influence the collegiality the character has of the relationship between us and china 10 years ago has led to these increasing hostilities and made chinas government a little bit paranoid about anything that seems to be pro western so were actually reverting back to a kind of a and all you call it a like in 1000 fortys fiftys model and you know the attacks the attacks on what about while they have been completely outrageous and the tree sad to me because the u. S. Has failed to back the movement of private enterprise in china rather has punished china for attempting to adopt a western style Free Enterprise or enterprise model and i think its been a disaster yes i do think that the washing d. C. In the in the Trump Administration particularly bears some blame for having escalated the tensions just systematic a month after month after month for years now and this is where you see now the u. S. Has absolutely no end but i want to move on to kind of another aspect of this were seeing social Media Companies responding to the law facebook microsoft Google Twitter and zoom of all announced that they have suspended products the processing of requests for user data from the hong kong authorities while they study the new law now meanwhile Chinese Apple tech talk says it will stop operations in hong kong as well what do we need to know about the situation with all these social media sites yeah i think its kind of funny that facebook and twitter are acting as if they are putting some brakes on what the chinese are doing essentially facebook and twitter about to get kicked out of china completely and theyre trying to exist in hong kong whats happening there with tick tock its really interesting because to talk obviously its the fastest growing. Chinese app ever growing at an enormously fast rate we just saw a band in india but whats happening in specifically in hong kong is that talk is no longer going to be available as we know it as tech talk in hong kong but the company that owns to talk by dance actually has an identical version of tic talk that is strictly for chinese and its not an English Version that is what exists currently on the chinese mainland so that service is now available in hong kong so essentially what dance is doing is theyre treating hong kong like the way they treat the rest of the chinese mainland in terms of lack of access to those western influences and very quickly i think jeffrey is exactly right in that china while it seemed like it was opening up more to western influence over the past couple of decades now seems to be in rapid form closing ranks and moving away from that and this example of social media i think is a good example of that jeffrey i want to get to one more here speaking of tick tock secretary of state mike pompei oh so the u. S. Is looking at banning ticktock and other chinese apps is this something that you believe could happen at the Top Administration continue this battle with china that you actually just mentioned. You know the im sorry but there seems to be this apocalyptic spirit in washington d. C. Every every sense corona thing came along we were banning fire from europe of cracking down with the lockdowns and and now crazy things are now the idea that were going to have extreme protectionism about the single most popular app among all the under 25 year olds is is unbelievable think its a lot and also get away with it maybe it will trump ministration seems to know or believe theres no limits what they can do but when if youre looking for a Silver Lining to this its a way to recruit the entire young generation into a pro free trade. But i think their panic thats kind. Of going to. Settle in on all 20 is under 25 year olds is just inconsiderate figure out the streets. Jeffrey tucker and bones one thank you both so much for taking their 3rd and brain a little levity to the situation as well thanks so much. The u. S. Treasury department on monday released the names of more than 650000. 00 companies received p. P. P. Loans as part of the 520000000000. 00 program intended to prop up the economy as stay at home order shuttered businesses throughout the country and now this is just a fraction of recipients of the loan as the government only identified those who were approved 4150000 or more now according to the data while most of the loans seem on the up and up some of the companies and industries that received loans raise some questions nearly 600 Asset Management and private equity firms which allowed most of their employees to work from home received loans from the program while rapper Kanye West Yeezy brands which produces clothing and high dollar sneakers also received a loan of between 2. 00 and 5000000000. 00 and the list of head scratchers really goes on and on including large chain restaurants like p. F. Changs and t. G. I. Fridays billionaire West Virginian ive been virgin your governor jim justice is Family Business that work in the coal industry the girl scouts political advocacy groups and even modernist sculptor jeff koons so lets go ahead and take a look at the distribution of p. P. P. Loans and how markets fared on tuesday with our friend tobin smith c. E. O. Of Transformative Research topic thanks for being here today good to be with you now what do you make of this data released by the Treasury Department is this a misuse of the program when we see sculptors at restaurants with hundreds of locations receiving money or is this just business taking advantage of opportunity afforded to them and really being creative with paperwork. Well i think if you go back to the beginning of this is that ive to my knowledge weve never had a type of grant that went to a business and said if you. Began with 80 percent of this money goes to paying salaries that you can will forgive this loan now they didnt say who couldnt do it number one number 2 i mean i hear people are moaning about of sidwell friends up in washington d. C. All that sort of or you know left wing school or or bush in washington these private schools getting the money theyre big employers number one number 2 they employ you know the number of employees they have then you know by dry cleaning and by fast food now there is a Ripple Effect here so i dont think it makes economic sense to go after a Large Company or a private Equity Company for that matter and say hey wait a minute you know youre a big money bags guy this money is all supposed to go to small guys on the other side of it those same 660000 above one 150. 00 grand that was 3 out of 4. 00 that was put out so if the goal was explicitly to keep it to true true Small Business then we totally failed by the way i want to clarify that its to between i apologize let me look at the number here to kanye west received millions not billions of dollars just iou idea ill give me a call right now but i do apologize to get him on the line but the but the point here is is tobit into what youre saying is so is that a messaging issue with the whole situation because more so they said these were Small Business loans but now theyre going to these giant firms when that really wasnt what it was it was just a messaging issue. Right now and they stood they then follow up with this main Street Lending which is a Different Program theres also Emergency Group credit growth scuse me emergency condition grants which are like 10000. 00 of free money i mean the goal was and it was accomplishes that we had to push in fill it this giant hole that have been created sink hole in the gut in the economy otherwise those Ripple Effects would just turn into a tsunami of facts so. It has accomplished that but like anything else if you throw something together quickly and you have to get people in congress and senate to vote for it quickly theyre going to do act 1st and theyre going to figure out later i think when we get to the next to the list and it is coming certainly by the end of july theres going to be at a lower number is Mitch Mcconnell kamel said lets really get it to the under 45000. 00 your households because theyre the ones who are actually going to be thrown out on their arses if they cant pay rent and i dont think having a nation of 6 to 10000000 new Homeless People many with children is is what the greatest country in the richest country in the world wants to see happen but i want to hit one other point here quick before we go markets fell today after a pretty good run over the last week citigroup analysts said monday they didnt expect markets to be much higher from their current levels at this Time Next Year and youve said were trading on 2021 were trading on 2022 has your outlook changed at all. No it hasnt been were sort of co bit on co bit off days right but the market his. Pricing in the fact the good old america will not go back into this lockdown mode youre never going to see that again its not politically palatable at this point so if that now were going to have higher rates and were just going to have to live with it because because the alternative is too painful for all involved in thats what really i think the markets are voting on and to look at any time you have a market go up a straight as is it has now youve got to have days to cool off otherwise that thing really blows up with c. E. O. Of Transformative Research always appreciate you coming in and break it all down for us. Thank you but. Time now for a quick break by here because when we return brazils president has tested positive for the coronavirus as the nation has surged to become one of the new epicenters of covert 19 we take a look around the globe a check on the spread of the virus as we go to break here the numbers of the clothes. You cannot be blown with yet you like. Time after time corporations repeat the same. Sustainability very of course its accelerate the transition to sustainable transport sustainability. A more equitable and sustainable well. They claim their production is completely harmless. It. Companies want us to feel good about buying their products while the damage is being done far away and this is just going to. Be doomed. To going in. The world is driven by a dream shaped by one person. Thinks. We dare to ask. To welcome back new york regulators have Deutsche Bank in their crosshairs due to the banks relationship with Jeffrey Epstein r. T. Correspondent john but he is following the story. Deutsche bank agreeing to pay the state of new york a 150000000. 00 fine for sketchy Financial Transactions related to Jeffrey Epstein new York State Department of Financial Services superintendent Linda Lacewell saying in a statement quote Deutsche Bank failed to adequately monitor the activity of customers. That the bank itself deemed to be high risk in the case of Geoffrey Epstein in particular despite knowing mr epsteins terrible criminal history the bank inexcusably failed to detect or prevent millions of dollars of suspicious transactions lacewell said the bank processed hundreds of transactions totaling millions of dollars at the very least should have prompted additional scrutiny in light of epsteins history including payments to individuals publicly alleged to have been abstains coconspirators in sexually abusing young women settlement payments of more than 7000000. 00 and Legal Expenses of epstein and his coconspirators of more than 6000000. 00 payments to russian models hotel and rent expenses and consistent with public allegations of prior wrongdoing payments directly to numerous women with Eastern European surnames along with all that suspicious cash withdrawals of more than 800000. 00 over 4 years Deutsche Bank had a financial relationship with epstein from 2013 to 2018 and according to this Consent Order to assure bank was aware of suspicious cash activity throughout the relationship and the bank continued to maintain the relationship for years despite additional red flags the bank cut ties with that scene in 2018 after the miami herald published its investigative series about epstein sordid history and questionable prosecution under the contentious 2008 plea deal the statement doesnt name any event scenes coconspirators f. B. I. Agents and n. Y. P. D. Detectives arrested gilling maxwell in New Hampshire july 2nd on charges of sex trafficking minors and perjury shes long been accused of helping to recruit and abuse the young women and girls epstein allegedly abused for many years some of them as young as 14 years of age maxwell is currently locked up at the metropolitan Detention Center in brooklyn on 24 hour suicide watch one of the Big Questions what incriminating evidence to she puts. We have on epsteins rich and powerful friends whove also been accused of being involved with his nefarious behavior federal authorities are intent on keeping National Alive to answer that question and many others unlike they were able to do with abstain from boom bust john hardy. And brazils president j. Are both so naro on tuesday announced he had tested positive for cobra 19 the brazilian president has faced criticism for downplaying the situation regarding the virus in his country for months and continue to do so and speaking about his diagnosis on brazilian t. V. Everybody knew that sooner or later 1000 will reach an important part of the population a lot of people like me for example if i would not have done the test i would not know about the result that was positive. And lets take another look at the spread of the virus with our correspondent side tabular so i worry world wide so brand this is where we are right now global cases there are more than 11800000 confirmed cases global deaths at least 543000 in the u. S. There is more than 30000000 confirmed cases while a death stares more than 133000 and i want to start with latin america thats again seeing a huge surge in cases and brazil right now is only 2nd to the u. S. And number of infections and deaths where more than 66000 people have died of the virus in brazil and was 1640000 cases have been confirmed so far 21000 just in the last 24 hours and it doesnt help when president also nera keeps encouraging the country through open even as the number of cases are going up and brand while the president can afford the best health care in brazil to treat him its the countrys poorest that are struggling to act as proper medical care and because brazil has a deep inequality and depend demick has had poor communities the hardest for most people even like. Running water and are cramped in housing so isolation has been impossible for many residents who work doing things like cleaning homes or are delivering food and i want to go over of peru that has just jumped past 305000 confirmed cases the 5th highest in the world and peru with a population of 33000000 people had a countrywide lockdown back in march but really struggled to enforce a nationwide quarantine because many of its citizens were facing just too much of an Economic Hardship to stay at home so were seeing the numbers going up now now moving over to chill a which was was very slow to implement lockdown measures and granted a large number of exceptions for sesh essential workers back in early may and now is the 6th country with the highest number of cases in the world with over 300000 cases and mexico thats now 50 in the numbers of deaths globally with 31000 deaths and over 261 confirmed cases and you know get this residents of the town of solenoid which is a very popular seaside resort in mexico and a short drive from arizona are now blocking the main road leading south from the u. S. Border over fears are people from the u. S. Traveling into mexico could bring the virus with them from brazil now lastly i also want to mention colombia where cases are over 820000 deaths and deaths and deaths are surging along colombias caribbean coast as the region mccombs epic center of depend demick with doctors warning that many more deaths are actually going on reported brant most are. What about in the u. S. What are we seeing here as far as the trends so once again 3 states arizona texas and florida keep showing up as hot spots now arizona has reported 117 deaths just in the last 24 hours with over 102000 cases and arizona has also been setting record high daily death counts about once a week while also reporting the lowest ever number of ice you bet vailable on tuesday and then moving over to texas where more than 9000. 00 new cases were announced across tech says the largest single day total for the pandemic bringing the cases to over 210000 meanwhile texas Just Announced a public face mass order which is a complete reversal by the governor who earlier downplayed the severity of the outbreak in his state and finally florida you know which initially avoided the worst of the pandemic and its 1st few months now has the 3rd highest number of corn and ice cases in the u. S. And over 206000 and counting and brant despite all of this floridas education commissioner issued an emergency order on monday mandating that all schools open for the paula for the fall and the order appears to follow president trumps wishes were he tweeted schools must open in the fall brant correspondents are tabular thank you for keeping us up to date cheers in indias Largest CompanyReliance Industries hit a new record high monday afternoon following the companys telecommunication arms geo releasing its new meeting app for the general public geo meets release comes as web conferencing apps have taken off amid the pandemic with zoo Microsoft Teams and a host of others seeing huge traffic as face to face interaction just isnt possible with me users can hold a meeting of up to 100 participants and if you cant get enough of on. 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