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The cia agents carrying out the operation of their faces covered they never speak and communicate any with gestures. They put a nappy on him. Is in succumbing to prevent him from hearing anything. Sometimes the prisoner is in it is forced to board the plane where he is chained up he has no idea where he is being taken all what will happen to him. Of the sequester and of deliberate so on a anything what they suspect the mine owner was out to fish and mean to. This were going to. Kill off him pigs in pure war list and if your name is up a cheese unmentionable care. To much of the need a jew need to come into a Metal Cutting back. In their act of war declared upon america by terrorists and we will respond accordingly be with those in heart them and feed them and house them. Make no mistake about it. Is the. Strong determination of america. To win this war. My message is for everybody who wears the uniform get ready the United States will do what it takes to win this war. Its difficult to explain to younger people today how emotionally fraught and just. Outraged a lot of people in the United States were after 911. People in the United States thought that this was like a unique event in Human History that had to change the course of Human History it wasnt just about the United States this was about what terrorism was and what it had become all that to say that because of that extraordinary measures were now called for things that had never before been done were going to happen. The reaction of the Bush Administration after 911. 00 was harsh and actually well documented that dick cheney famously said that we would turn to the dark side those were his words. The man who was the head of counterterrorism at the cia cofer black leader ambassador cofer black said that we would not rest until we had bin ladens head on a pike and flies were eating his eyeballs. And they werent joking they were serious and if we had to go. Kill everybody. In the process of getting him we were willing to kill everybody. After september the 11th the United States declared war on terror. The old rules no longer applied when it came to terrorists. The cia became the armed branch of the u. S. Government tasked with secretly unearthing presumed terrorists. We had high value targets and high value detainees the cia came up with a list 1st it was a very short list of about 12 people that we wanted to either capture or kill. Bin laden i mean as i had he mohammed i was a beta etc. John kiriakou is a former cia agent after working for years as an expert middle east analyst he was appointed head of Counterterrorism Operations in pakistan in 2001 his task was to capture. Considered the al qaeda number 3 at the time. It was hard to capture him because he knew that we were looking for him you know i had only been there 2 weeks and we got word that i was a bit it was somewhere in the country. So we had to narrow it down but we couldnt because every day hes moving to a different city every single day we know this now from his diaries we captured his diaries too so we knew that he knew that we were looking for him and we were close we were like one day behind at the most 2 days behind so we we flew in a large team half cia half f. B. I. And we broke down the door of 14 places at exactly the same time at 2 oclock in the morning and sure enough we found him in the final sight so we put him into a helicopter that landed in the parking lot we flew to a Pakistani Military base and then i sat with him for the next 56 hours until they picked him up in a cia plane and they took him to the secret prison. Put it inside somewhere that you. Know no matter whether classic or when i went to see me to hear. The name each equal but the comments only this jury of their view. That was the order. But the. Near like better. They. Dont need to join you dont think where. They get to put jesus with. Me. But its difficult to keep a secret even if its a clandestine. Details begin to leak out to the press. In 2001 in afghanistan we were hearing reports of both afghan and non afghan often arab detainees associated with alqaeda or allegedly alqaeda being arrested or detained in afghanistan and some of them were being sent to prisons in afghanistan and some were being sent to Guantanamo Bay but there were others who simply disappeared somebody saw a group of men in black take somebody and put them in an airplane and the airport Maintenance Person took down the tail number and so this tail number led eventually a year later into understanding the renditions were airplane flights done by the cia from certain airports in the United States with certain Cover Companies Fake Companies around the world somewhere to do something. We started asking questions about where this plane was what it was who owned it who operated it and journalists from other countries and Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International other groups slowly began to figure out more and more about the cias air travel system. And so now. So you have them to support this system the secret system you have more and more people in more and more countries involved and soon you got the idea that this is a big apparatus a structure that is being put in place thats entirely new for this country. On november the 2nd 2005 following a long investigation done a priest published an article in the Washington Post reported on the practice of extraordinary rendition and the existence of secret cia prisons in europe socalled black sites the article revealed many details about the Clandestine Operations but did not say which countries these Detention Centers were in president bush had convinced the newspapers managements not to publish the names of the European Countries hosting the black sites. This was very disappointing the us a Human Rights Watch because we thought if youre going to reveal these secret prisons lets say where they are and so. We went ahead and we listed our information about poland and romania the next day. He was asked to respond to the secret flight scandal as a member of the council of europe. The council of europe is an International Organization made up of 47. 00 european states its objective is to defend democracy the rule of law and human rights on our continent. In the event of suspected Human Rights Violations the council of europe appoints a repetition to investigate the events. Of their medieval diary. The near. 0 mm. Hm. The into the mcu miss your name is that the tories meet it over the whip into liquid they threw me some of that it up i was originated at me on the via phone as soon after possibly taki a chit that it was the home office to go with them back. On november the 25th 2005 in bucharest dick mott it was formally appointed by the council of europe to look into the cias extraordinary renditions and secret prisons 50 spotted if a sort of list was created to towards read this year no meant by so of which song if you went with it whether those 2 deaths in exodus. International memorial awards has extended its deadline for submissions. 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To join us in the depths. Or a maybe in the shallows. When else so. Seemed wrong. To me. To shape out just because to add to it. Equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart. Choose to look for Common Ground. What is the meaning in worth of history why are there are those so determined to destroy cultural artifacts and rewrite history and so their understanding of history a true in discussion of understanding of history is really about 2 things reverend little warning the culture side we are witnessing rejects the idea. Welcoming of us from around the world live from Central London this is our 2 u. K. The english city of leicester could face 8 local looked down by Central Government amid a surge in the number of corona virus cases but the met has his out of the lack of communication and question whether westminster has the power to do is we hear from a pub landlord the local council or. The statistics watchdog reveals that male care workers are more than twice as likely to die from coronavirus than the rest of the Adult Population a care home Charity Campaign it tells us the government needs to be held to account the questions were going to put to. The Prime Minister to make him quite because you know nobody is screaming about this massive human rights abuse. Luci you might say that you have not been forgotten i have been in the green for. Small Business Owners say the u. K. Child slack has reneged on promise is that the sector will not be forgotten during the coronavirus pandemic we hear from the campaign organizers. And the u. K. Gym owner considers taking legal action against the government after the Fitness Industry was barred from the july the 4th reopening. The u. K. Government couldnt force a 2 way lot. In the city of leicester offer a surge in the number of corona virus cases but the mayor of leicester says he hasnt been shown the evidence to back it up dismissing the latest report his hastily called together were on this are to you case should ever study joins me now so the government might be imposing a local law down there absolutely it looks like leicester could become the 1st part of the United Kingdom to end a local lockdown within days due to a resurgence of the virus in the west in the West Midlands city apparently they will now be looking at measures to extend the lock down by an additional 2 weeks despite the rest of the United Kingdom despite the rest of england phasing out of this lockdown period a moving into a slightly different phase of the lockdown period this weekend with the reopening of pubs bars and restaurants and of course relaxing and reducing the social distance rule of 2 metres it all comes as Leicester City has recorded 866 new cases in a 2 week period up until june the 23rd which are quite up to 5 percent of the u. 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Wide total survey huge spike then in leicester now of course as part of the tactics to try and reduce the number in the area experts in the science and medical field have been drafted into the us to try and help authorities deal with this pandemic by trying to assess hotspots where in fact the virus has flared up so 5 schools in the area have closed off the opening in early june due to the outbreaks according to reports theres also been an outbreak at a supermarket as well as a large sandwich production factory but there are also fears that the virus is spreading through the citys large Asian Community particularly in situations where people are living in multigenerational homes meanwhile then the mayor of leicester doesnt agree with this assessment in fact hes incredibly angry and frustrated with Central Government because he was supposed to have a meeting with the government this morning having said that throughout the night he received an email saying in fact recommend ations from the government the lest it should remain in lockdown for additional 2 weeks and the email wasnt very well received. Im saying we need to be convinced that there is a case for doing that 1st of all that there is Something Special about the spread of the virus in leicester weve had no evidence to that and that if there was to remain restricted for longer than the rest of england that that would actually make a difference to something and theyve made neither the case that there is something that needs to be done and given any explanation as to why this is the right thing to do the report that weve had from them rigidly acknowledges right at the outset that in fact the results are indeed hiring lester but thats because theyve been doing more testing in leicester. Now this is what the government says as a result of their program of test and tracing because of course you can quickly identify where an outbreak is happening and then do and put all measures in place to try and alleviate it so this is what seems to be happening in leicester but of course the government also says it gives a bit more of an idea of how it may go ahead in terms of looking at other areas that might flare up in the next few weeks to come especially as far as johnson the Prime Minister is saying that the u. K. Is not out of their words when it comes to the coronavirus just yet. We are concerned about lester were concerned about any local outbreak. And i want to stress to people that you know we are not out of the woods yet its very important you know were making these these cautious calibrated steps. As much of hospitality as we can on on july the 4th they be as much of the economy as we can we need to have local lockdowns and local. Become old strategies where thats necessary its worked in places like Weston Super Mare or where weve had outbreaks in tepee surgeries in in london. And thats the same approach that will bring to bear in leicester as well well right now we are waiting for announcement from the Health Secretary matt hancock is jus to announce to the house of commons how the government will handle local outbreaks Going Forward but exactly whats happening last saturday indicative of a u. K. Wide approach if and when any spikes happen in any area in the next few months shut it up especially thank you very much indeed. Well liberal democrats councillor Geoffrey Kauffman told me he doesnt believe a local lock downs would work in practice. A lists only lock down is going to include growth to less. Which is outside of the city boundary which is going to be consulting with less Security Council johnson working a job. I dont know how people are going to commute and i dont know how youre going to keep patriots at lock down have a few streets only going to barricade the people in but those units so it would have to be a wide area the laws and go they seem to be talking about at the moment and its a lot dont you think being east too quickly nationally. Yes but not only is it being eased too quickly nationally the message is that government to giving out are now confusing people the things you are allowed to do not allowed to do and you know to me to rule scholars is no somebody took plus im stopping now i dont know what that means and the people ive been speaking to are confusion of a mixed messages those are coming out from government or less debased landlord alex hilton told me that the priority was the safety of customers but the messaging was very confused we love our pop were really excited to get customers back to we dont want to get close miss it its not going to be safe to do so so if the government decides that it is right that lesson is going to be extended we will absolutely just pull out decision because we want people christmas safe just like any good pope would say but we need to know when ill surely stop and search and say let it become a problem for tech is that alex if they do have a local shutdown bacon that closed down just a few businesses not all businesses so at least some people can can carry on as normal can. Yes of course it is this boss of the country better a social distancing thing from whopper at places like scotland for example of archie cases so theres no reason that you know the response conceptual and delightful shit of the cos the contributor as ive been already told 3 months. In office this rates have gone down all bills have been going down and we have to throw away other stalls down almost 3000 tons with. Which i can tell you how hop rachid not just emotionally will also financially and were not sure what we hope will be a rain ready for this weekend so were not sure. Which i really really dont what state are you actually ready to go sort of right now what other measures have you taken to sort of get everything ready. So i mean we havent parents like been forced out today so we have all the better in a sense of safety and we can help stuff it must and by this assuming that will happen this weekend all the guys look it up why must invite us to stop every single table away all of the Table Service in the whole every cycle hunt so its all the dedicated members stuff food on site just the white tables down the 2nd coast believes the old we want people to be safe we want people to feel safe or know that we care about a wouldnt dream of ever were in a boat that people didnt feel complete didnt feel safe and. If any of all regulars go ill because we have big calloused. I was working in the u. K. Social class system a far more likely to die from 19th than the rest of the Adult Population thats according to a report by the office of National Statistics which said the sect that was one of the most at risk. The analysis found that men working in care homes or as home keris were 2 and a half times more likely to die from the virus compared to the average working male while the covert mortality rate for women working in the sector was twice that of other women the government has been criticized for the lack of personal protective equipment provided to the care system and also for the decision to release elderly residents from hospital back into care homes in the early stages of the pandemic without having had covert 19 tests the government claims this was entirely done on medical advice or meanwhile its estimated that 410000 people are living in adult care in the u. K. In may Health Secretary matt hancock said the government has thrown a protective ring around the sector for data comparing care home deaths in europe was the u. K. As the 2nd worst performing in protecting residents from the virus well around a 3rd of the u. K. s known covert photos his have been in care homes accounting for over 5 percent of residents thats 13 times higher than in germany which recorded 3 and a half 1000 deaths despite having a care home population twice the size of the u. K. s well figures from neighboring ireland found that over 3 percent of care home residents have died from the disease one in belgium the figure is just below 5 percent and the worst performing is spain with known cova deaths accounting for 6 point one percent of residents were defending its record the u. K. s department of health said its efforts had resulted in the majority of care homes not experiencing an outbreak we have been doing everything we can to ensure care home residents and staff are protected during this unprecedented Global Pandemic every stage of our response has been guided by the latest scientific advice this includes offering whole care home testing and providing additional funding for local services which has resulted in almost 60 percent of our care homes not having an outbreak a tool. The former head of Health Analysis at the office for National Statistics Jamie Jenkins told me it wasnt just adults cast off at risk as too can a key aspects you need to consider when you look at the occupational risk to code one is the exposure to the virus so we know a lot of care homes the virus kind of hit them when some people were discharged from hospital and and the virus is kind of circulating and there was a lack of testing going to take a very start of the of the pandemic and another 2nd important factor as well is the social economic background of that of the people who are in these jobs as well so we also know for example that people who are in love paid jobs tend to have poor kind of Health Conditions as well and nothing can lead to pressing more risk of dying from covert so that there are a number different fact that you consider such as the exposure of the virus in say the individuals background as well but it does also seem to be consistently men at risk that. Yeah we are seeing men at risk than women just generally for from code as well and thats not just in the case thats across the hul of the world and theres other things that you need to consider as well in terms of these jobs that people are there and we also know that for example some of the occupational think the office for National Statistics highlighted that where people were more likely to die from code than say other occupations there was a higher proportion of black and ethnic minorities were going in those roles as well and weve seen data suggest in a more risky as well so i think what we have seen though since the start of the pandemic is that theres been increasing protections not to say for him in the case set that with more testing and p. B. Becoming available but women we know from the day that i want to publish as well that we saw an elevated risk for people d working in just retail as well as care homes than what weve seen over the last few months is that theres been increasing protections being put in place in retail for example such as as protective screens but we do know the case start the opening up over the last few weeks so what we see any increase in deaths from that we have to keep an eye out for as well. Well the founder of the Charity Compassion in care i mean chubb says the government has been ignoring problems in the sector for years the only reason that this happens is because there is no one to go to who will act i mean if you look at the amount of stars who phrase concerns with the c. Q. Say and then look at the amount if inspections septic in place youll see a massive gap so you know the stuff know the risk they called for help and there was no nothing i told there and no one was listening at all and that is a massive tragedy and there needs to be a full investigation into this because if this was you know in the Public Sector there would be an inquiry and it would be taken more seriously as him at hancocks protective ring. Theres no evidence of that whatsoever it was a deliberate people at risk it wasnt you know you didnt have to have our high i. Q. To realize that putting people cope at 19 into a care home with the most fun rubel people in society that you would end up with a tragedy if its seeable try john i was going to say you would do that calling for an inquiry on this but what do you think the government as you would argue is reluctant to do or do you think that is because i think that is that we have are into this week to boast johnson and were lay in our order our concerns and all our evidence and that should be published this deal friday and believe me the questions were going to put to him the Prime Minister will make him quite because you know nobody is screaming about this mass if human rights abuse and you know we should be all be screaming from the rooftops because to most of our own next year or the year after it could it could be arson it could be the people we love and we need to we need to fight now and stand up and say this is wrong and it needs to stop. Coming up after the break. Small Business Owners say the u. K. Child star has broken promises to protect them during the covert 19 kondo make to get the reaction of the county organizer. As a u. K. Gym owner considers legal action against the governments ban on the reopening of the Fitness Industry. The lord. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you then. Lock. You cannot be blown with yet you like. The world is driven by a dream shaped by frank person who goes by the. Dares thinks. We dare to ask. Welcome back the suspect in the reading knife attack has appeared in court this monday to face charges of the 3 men were killed and several injured 25 year old kyra siddhartha is facing trial at Westminster Magistrates Court after being charged with 3 counts of murder and 3 counts of attempted murder the libyan refugee was detained under the terrorism act he is accused of stabbing to death james furlong david wales and Joseph Ritchie bennis and injuring several other people on june the 20th. Now small Business Owners say the u. K. Chancellor has reneged on promises that the sector will not be forgotten in june the coronavirus pandemic which is saying that claim that 95 percent of self employed people would be supported but the remaining 5 percent claim its unfair that theyve slipped through the gaps. To you might say that its you have not been forgotten i have been forgotten ive been forgotten we will not let you go on and ive been left behind myself to many things alone we all stand together together i am a Small Business owner together really the virus point 8000000 people who have bought a 3 car. Government bailouts have been paying 80 percent of employed and self employed workers on incomes of up to 2500. 00 pounds a month for 3 months but those who set themselves up as companies and take an income through dividends are not covered and are often unable to access government business grants or dividends do attract a lower tax rate than wages but the founder of the forgotten Campaign Says its not that simple. Initially i understood that there were some complications that meant that you know including limited Company Directors might be more complicated and they were looking for the fastest route from a lead to being to provide support. But you know were over 3 months in now and i think they could have easily put something in place to support us realistically though being treating us in the s e i s. S. A. The selfemployed incomes postgame but its just really if theres political will to do that i guess all the reasons that a Business Owner might take a dividend which is a sort of key point at issue here rather than pay themselves a salary i think predominantly from the feedback of our thousands of members that we speak to every day its about agility its about the ability to ensure that their staff are paid 1st and foremost above and beyond themselves because its about him creating employment and protecting you know those are and seasonality on their income you know they dont have a flat income every month. Goes up and down and therefore the activity of being able to pay yourself in line with your profits and. All the government says dividends arent included in the support package because its not possible to prove whether theyre taken instead of wages or as a return on capital or part of an investment the rules also exclude those who have recently switched to full time self employment those who are over 50000. 00 pounds a year and those who make less than 50 percent of their earnings from self employment. But there are many amongst our group who have received no support at all so it may be that they dont have commercial premises it may be that theyre on a boot it may be that they run their payroll annually i knew. That was the r. T. I. Submission fell to the 19th of march so even if they have a significant salary or p a y e they were unable to claim anything on their part from joining because there are to your submissions off to the council for whats the worst Case Scenario the worst case situation situation that youve heard of. In all honesty weve had suicides. Weve had people crowd funding to feed their children weve had insolvencies. Im not speaking about my own business create i mean within our group of supporters. People have laid off large numbers of star people intend to announce large numbers of star the impacts will not be felt i knew by the small Business Owners here its the 2000000 limited companies and the 7 and a half 1000000 people that they employed and its the supply chain of the people that they supply. I was also joined earlier by the owner of a building and Maintenance Company stephens she told me that shes expecting fair and equal backdated support for businesses like hers which have been left out of receiving Financial Support has the Treasury Committee reports recently put the governments one hope listen to that. For the guidelines which means they will get about database poor out of the whole of our income in line with other you know other support schemes such as the s. C. I assess a joke can you tell me more detail about that what is it that you would like to see the government. Were you open to basically listen to what mouse tried to set and office fair and equal backdated support for the whole of our income thats what the Treasury Committee has recommended that they do and thats what i would like to see happen oafish does happen its going to enable us to continue to. Help with the economic recovery and continue to employ the 7000000 people that limited companies do employ and in terms of yourself will you be able to reopen. Were actually really fortunate in april we had a 75 percent drop in income and turnover which is actually an enormous impact on that weve had furlough staff and there are some other small forgot salinity companies i know that shes not had any turnover whatsoever. Code a little bit about her being out to do external work but my main concern Going Forward isnt so much the next couple of months its the autumn when the furlough scheme ends and also when our work tends to. Move more internally in our customers arent necessarily going to want to sit inside their houses and thats thats the point market were going to see not just in mind astray but within many industries. Ok exercise group jim box is considering taking legal action against the government after the Fitness Industry was left off the list of businesses allowed to reopen on july the 4th owner mark diaper told me it was unfair that pubs and restaurants were allowed to reopen with no evidence that gyms are any different. This 2 things are the legal side of things that the 1st thing for us is actually about reopening on saturday because were looking at our legal position in terms of the activity we do it more repercussions will be the 2nd side of things is you know given a hospitality is opened before the fitness sector is whether or not there is a future playing against the government for loss of revenue given has been no evidence or no reasoning reasoning as to why are actually still going to be closed and i think thats probably the key point there was a recent medical study card out of university of oslo which is pretty much proved in their own that theres no evidence that hoping the gyms leads to the increased shred of credible ira so theres evidence out there or urging the government to do is go look at the evidence to actually review it all give us an answer about why were not opening i think thats the key thing here is lack of communication we are constantly overlooked as an industry because the only country 85000000000 to the economy you know ingrained in the grand scheme of things you know that 5000000000 pittance fatality in hospital is worth 100000000000 so it seems like its very very political hit all of those hospitality employees off back into restaurants get the economy going again from that perspective i leave us to suffer. From the saturday pubs restaurants and hairdressers in england will be allowed to reopen but indoor gyms along with night clubs and nail salons are still on the presbyterian este the Fitness Industry already has strict cleaning protocols in place and many gyms have enough space for physical distancing but last week the Prime Minister dismissed attempts to compare the sectors that could open and those that couldnt. Im acutely conscious that people will ask legitimate questions about why certain activities are allowed and others are not and i must ask the house to understand that the virus has no interest in these debates its only interest its only a ambition is to exploit any opportunities to recapture ground that we might carelessly vacate marked i also told me that his gyms would implement more Safety Measures in the hospitality sector to protect people. Weve got measures in place that you know other countries dont have so you can example come to reception of a tempted check straightaway ok the hospitality sector isnt doing that most of the modern maps we dont have screens at reception have changed the face masks we have social distance in areas around the planet you know in pubs or restaurants its a meter or you set up sit on a table somebody and after a few days we really think if you can associate distance i cant see it happening and also you other thing ive been hearing quite a bit is a bit of the method around when you exercise your excel more and more to come out same concepts that come out when you are so thats going to have both the russians know to be laughing in them and i just dont see it as a valid point so i really want to come out and theres a reason and i and all open dates we can enter wars because the end of all weve missed before now left in limbo burning millions and millions in daily basis. 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