People who are on carver 24000000 more under insured its not the basis for responding to a Global Pandemic the viruses certainly didnt get the business memo that they were supposed to cooperate with the profit system well they may have killed it may have killed a 100000 or more americans but youre alive. I am gratefully but. By dint of the American Medical System i in essence was frozen out of the my Doctors Office and had to be diagnosed online by a Nurse Practitioner who neither saw either error or me and so to be sure that this is new want a back ground effect of neo liberal politics only response to coronavirus youre saying we need radical invasive change thats not. The lock downs that we experience in nato nations youre talking about its Something Else absolutely i think one of the things we do is we get so focused on the emergency responses where which are absolutely necessary including the lockdowns including whatever vaccines were able to develop though im not too hopeful about that but the problem is our focus on the emergency aspect of it moves us from a understanding or exploring the more structural issues that are driving the emergence of one deadly pathogen after another some point were going to have to come face to face and understand that our very mode of civilization is now driving the emergence of these deadly pathogens and we have to do foundationally break with that mode and develop a much more integrated relationship with earth and arent ologies and i want to explore some of those has its in a moment but youre claiming that political power shapes both the Infectious Diseases and the sciences that study the diseases. Thats right one of the things that scientists its an amazing thing im a scientist myself an evolutionary biologist but one unfortunately history of science is very much into greater with the emergence and history of capitalism in such a way that. Science has been used as a means of de coding nature but only in the context of whether or not to help somebody a profit at some point when were confronted with problems that dont bend in that direction science has difficulty grasping and unpacking those phenomena and so we find ourselves in i think the pandemic the exact sample of this we find ourselves when confronted with problems that dont bend easily to a modification then we are in essence unable to respond in a way that deals with the problem so what are we supposed to take from say the british Prime Minister morris jones when he repeated the end his ministers repeatedly say we have following the science to actually following a politicized new liberal version of sons which is not the evidence based Scientific Method itll thats right well science and capitalism have a way of pointing to each other for rationalizing their takes on things and so we have a situation where many scientists hired by the state or by companies are in essence putting models out that in essence support the system that brought about the pathogen in the 1st place. So obviously we see donald trump often flanked by Multinational Pharmaceutical Company and c. E. O. s of Big Companies but you in your book big firms make big flu you ironically do support donald trump in saying its the chinese flu of the womb flu because at the beginning in the book you say the w. H. O. Was wrong not to talk about the origin of influence in other pandemics or certainly in the chinese do you bear some responsibility for the emergence of multiple strains of influenza. Viruses but china isnt the only epicenter for diseases we have for instance its 5. 00 and 2. 00 the influenza avian flu and so they emerge here in the United States we have swine flu h one n one that actually did go pandemic in 2009 that emerged from outside mexico city we have ebola emerged out of west africa primarily out of kind of the neoliberal interventions that drove for station and the spillover of the polar strains so certainly the china. China does bear some responsibility but this is a global problem is see if i put on a have a c. E. O. Of a big Agribusiness Company ok i might blame the Mining Companies for deforestation which as you show in the book is so intimately related with the spread of epidemics but id say your book talks about big flume is that this corona of ours is supposed to come from a small from maybe a wildlife market is completely different to agribusiness. Well i would say mining does have something to do with this. As well as logging in. And in addition to your business but as far as coronavirus goes its a little bit more complex but as. A culture large agriculture and sense of operations push their way deeper into the for its it forces small holders to relocate and that also plunges into the local forests increasing the interfaces between small holders and wild animals that are almost for many of the new pathogen the other thing to understand is that the wild food trade where everyones pointing fingers that its not this kind of totally differentiated operation from big ag increasingly capital is flooding into the wild sector and becoming more intensive. In such a way that more traditional large agriculture use beginning to be modeled by the more wild food sector and so as both those types of arming into the forests you have an it increasing interface with wild animals and increasing spillover of these new pathogens so how are these interconnections exacerbated by something unprecedented in human civilization the ability to travel the us distances quickly were only just putting a quarantine here it britains amp whats what would you said to morris jones and about the fact he that our Immediate Response here in britain was not to shut down the airports i think in the us you had ample its open to. Thats right well. The Global Travel network is. The most integrated network of what weve seen and Human History someone can go from one side of the world to the other in and a half day or so so its. Any pathogen they might be caried can move that way and thats the thing thats so shocking its the speed at which new pathogens might spill over from the deepest forest and make a way to a regional capital and then onto a plane and to the other side of the world in short time and were you know we despite the fact that weve left airports open we should have known that that was probably going to be the speed at which corona virus was going to make its way in the other direction from asia to the United States and give direction to europe. Because of the kind of insidious nature of the. Pathogen and its clinical course we just chose not to act and and here in the United States some of the studies have shown that the cove in 1000 was circulating in Washington State for 6 weeks before it was ultimately did detected as to be circulating among among people here well the numbers of dead are truly breathtaking in your country oversea more than 100000 thats in the origin you theorize that the pathogen may have existed already and is deforestation that exposed it and allowed to escape. Well theres been a lot of work since sarahs one that showed that there are multiple strains of coronaviruses in bat species across central and Southern China and they have been spilling over into local populations both human and animal. For since then if you keep rolling the dice at some point one of them makes its way across into some combinations of animals both wild animals and livestock and ultimately into the humans typically the labor that taking care of the livestock and then subsequently on its way to a local city most of those stars dont make it to human to human but if you want so while we do have one and in all likelihood sars one and sars 2 will be followed by sars 3 and you really think of the logic of neo liberalism is that Companies Involved in deforestation and so forth a 1000000000 dead is fine with them so focused on their own process to profits. Well i mean its really easy you just blame the virus or you blame the chinese or you blame smallholders for cutting into the forest. There is this point its theyve got these Rapid Response teams Crisis Management packages and go out and all these outbreaks and make sure you continue to externalize the costs of intensive production so that everyone carries the cost and everyone carries the blame if you were to fold and the cost back onto the Company Balance sheets for business would be and as we know it. More from us all the big farms make big flu after this break plus we asked the director general of Nigeria Center for Disease Control them to check when a heck was or why a country ravaged by previous epidemics that alone i. M. F. Structural adjustment programs appears to have dealt with coronavirus so much better than britain or the usa political coming over but to going on the ground. The world is driven by. The dangers thinks. We dare to ask. President Vladimir Putin in his own words tells us how he understands history and the Current International system also why everybody here we hates john bolton as he loves us all the way. To the bank. We go to work. Straight home. Welcome back im still with rome wallace author of big farms make big flu the w. H. O. Arguably has never been more in the headlines you give a very nuanced account in your latest book china has just given 2000000000 dollars donald trump appears to be withdrawing cooperation with do you think would make a loaf the w. H. O. Well you know historically speaking these kinds of crises do have a way of killing off International Organizations we think of the league of nations where war won so many of these organisations are very particular and very conscious of the possibility that their fates are in the hands of not only outbreak but the nation states on which they depend for their finances and legitimacy in my view there should be a w. H. O. But we think theyre in the middle of being caught in something of a crossfire we find in the United States my view the United States says some of the World Systems there is support it is on the far end of the end of that cycle of accumulation of capital being turned into money in other words. American base capitalists are in essence cashing out and so what was previously post world war 2 an exercise of political power. Sure the capitalist system worked including cleaning up pandemics of capitalist own making around the world thats why c. D. C. Here was such an important part of responding to outbreaks worldwide well thats been rolled back in essence in a matter of months which is quite extraordinary the United States is basically in essence washed its hands of its responsibilities to run the global system of capitalism including beating up at democrats so i know on the other hand sees it seizing the opportunity its on its front and that cycle of accumulation its turning money into capital and its interested in building empire and Building Infrastructure including Public Health infrastructure which will allow it to accumulate capital as as the new imperial power on the block as it were whether or not successful on that however its up in the air we are in deep Environmental Crisis and so were arriving at a stage where earth cannot support these kinds of cycles of accumulation is the london host of the Global Alliance of vaccines and immunization Boris Johnson gave a speech there bill gates gave a speech there we had the boss of it and goes. On the program and then she said that its no problem that these weston responses are linked to big from being too foundations like the Gates Foundation and that actually far from what you are saying these as we would call it as many would call it new liberal capitalism philanthropists are doing their best to save millions of lives far from ignoring the risks of pandemics because of what they do for any individual. Philanthropists they might be indeed encouraged by good feelings and good intentions to actually use their money to help save people the structure. Level however once we are in a position to ask those from whom they develop or they got their money by virtue in essence engaging in some of the practices that. Are promoting the emergence of these pathogens in the 1st place i mean if youre depending on those people to intervene in a way to keep those. At the jinns from merging then were in some trouble because theres a flick of interests in there on the one hand they are in favor of the of the practices that led to the emergence of these diseases even on the other hand theyre trying to use some of that money to intervening i dont think philanthropy apple isnt is a means by which were going to fundamentally change the way of living and life in our relationship with the earth and an ecology that that we can stop these pathogens from emerging in the 1st place if were in the business of just cleaning up after pandemic after another then and indeed i think we are in some trouble its highly unlikely that additional pathogens will be emerging were not going to have the 100 year delay that we have from 1901. And in less we make some foundational shifts in the very mode of civilisation that the were operating under were going to be exposed to new pathogens in the future finally just to one irony arguably some of those companies obviously helping in the contract thing of one of your biggest taxpayer funded industries the military what do you make of the fact that after Edward Snowden who saw a refuge in moscow after revealing massive valence how that massive valence the telephone calls not being able to be used for track and trace for a pandemic threatening us all well i would not sure if i agree with that i think many countries ive been using that. In. The news for better and for worse but not the n. S. A. Cia program that was a real way snowden is that being used to save american lives i dont think it is i mean certainly not in terms of being deployed to help with endemic stuff i mean i dont i dont think there would even consider the american response as anything organized at the National National level there isnt a National Program for response to coronavirus here its all been to fall down to the local and state levels in fact the federal government set off a black Market Competition between states better waiters i would say i wouldnt quite classify the u. S. Responses being. Even at the level of basic. You know there is no tracing other and some a little bit at the local level so if the n. S. A. Is involved in doing anything about coronaviruses we certainly dont know it. Thank you. Nigeria has been called upon any capital of the world ravaged by i. M. F. Restructuring programs and epidemics 40 percent of its population of nearly 200000000 people live below the breadline and yet coronavirus deaths are exponentially worse in britain and the usa than in the u. K. So former west african colony joining me is the man leading the fight against coven 1000 there the director general of Nigerias Center for Disease Control to chick with he joins me via skype from nigerias capital abuja thank you so much for coming on the show so we may have had about 60000 excess deaths here in britain with a population of 67000000 how come nigeria apparently has recorded less than fewer than 4500 deaths those over 200000000. People i think 2 things i think it is very early to reach any conclusions around the burden both of infection disease and death because you know theres a time aspect influences the transmission and also influences but its you know what out across the code across the world but there are also many things the you know whenever you virus is introduced into a population does that interaction between the virus the population of environment you know that the debts have said need to do it that count 3 kids go unique to nigeria the proportion of that he didnt go up in south africa 4 india do i got so that definite is something happening on the continent i mean if so far that has limited the broader no bets that were see you say its too early why didnt you stop all Contact Tracing systems in nigeria like we did here on the 12th of march. I have you know Contact Tracing is very much out of our response its part of the d. N. A. Of any Public Health response to our Infectious Disease outbreak well that you know we did hear though thats not a whole lot go up i cant really speak about the response of the u. K. I could only speak about that if nigeria had you know we were struggling to weed out resource constraints its a big complex country Large Population and doctors really why would lock down spend it not to to enable their response but theres no other tool that we have now or that you know Contact Tracing out really the hot work that we do in response to infection these outbreaks that is not so youll see but. Fortunately weve got that but that number of that so weve really got out so street into this capacity to carry out this type of work across the country you see here in britain the media routinely says that the low death counts from the global south merely show that they may be lying about the statistics the Chinese Communist party invited you to woo hand what do you find there because china is always being accused of falsifying coronavirus statistics i understand you never went to the actual woo han lab or wildlife market that i did good to get a lot back what my impression was that china is really either type we went very bad by the time we went cogs or very much already did the flight is out you know to implement shutdown successfully you have to have as much determination on resources to carry out you know truly a deployment of food resources bedsteads and Everything Else it takes to keep the population alive at active despite being shut out and you were doing got this is that i mean you ready immediately you know we were going to struggle with Something Like this you know probably across the rest of the words. That was immediately not the policy for me and i would have led to results of the 1st bishop but the police had to prepare for our response our baby bits im with you get the impact of this what you know the reality to be honest this is a top iris the toughest ive ever seen in my lifetime i think the stories of the most successful countries will go up at all this side of the end of the year where you stand by your Contact Tracing which as i say the British Government has said had to be destroyed that system in much theyve now reintroduced it in quarantine which is only just begun in the past few days or so months after the pandemic was detected here in britain why did you decide to quarantine the u. K. Registered aircraft britain would never quarantine a nigerian aircraft you know i think were used to a world where most of that narrative has been effected to gird from the global south to the global notes but the reality is that most of the infections in nigeria keep meat from europe mostly from the u. K. Im not the only buy you get sick of the baby nigerians coming back to have kind of trouble because it is too location but ultimately so it was you know done as a Public Health measure all to basically you know the measures that we have so many contradictions west struggling with decision because egypt up has a big Economic Impact ive got to put a big impact especially docket that also cost lives i got the end of the day if you remember that you bought outbreaks of west africa more people would die from the consequences of the outbreak that struck the barras itself so we have to be very careful in judging that taking the big picture the concentration you mention the Economic Impact money has seemingly no object here where we are paying 80 percent of wages of maybe greater proportion of this population here in britain its state funded the same there in nigeria because. I understand the i. M. F. Ok 3 and a half 1000000000. 00 for corona virus some suspicions about where all that money is going some labs have not opened 1. 00 what is that the role of the i. M. F. In this and im going to ask why dont does it going on strike that understand p. P. Was better in nigeria than he has some reports suggest yeah 6 i think it would if its impossible to really compare the economic realities im definitely ackermann economic might to respond to an outbreak like this but to the you cant idea were really out there for this level its an opportunity to do all of that so yes government has really tried to reprivatize its Financial Resources for the response and sometimes the borough its not an easy decision for i think up at def the. Depths of the opera great use of the resources especially start with which is in my control of the national Public Health used to weight brought up in front of the Puppetry Committee responsible for sharing appropriate to expect the judge will be put into very carefully the challenges that were stuck there probably very dopey terms about the Public Health infrastructure we dont have to build back better for the future one thing is for sure is that there will be a lot of debits in the future one thing you for sure all the countries i think that each other much of africa because of trouble because of trade and we must Work Together to find solutions thats not could bring us together because i would do a little long tab exists that its probably more dependent im not predicted to collaborate that area that we never can operate that sufficient director general thank you thank you very much thats in the show will be back on wednesday 3 s of the day and will tell holden i think inflamed yemen had a bombing by british made warplanes and weapons had over 200000 cases of cholera i dont know what your hands joining on the ground and your son but its a time to turn face. You cannot be both with the yeah you like. Whats needed National Well thats not a matter when youve been able to molest that solicit it possible but then you skew false and its kind of scene from where youre morgue where youre more your Partner Group or provide. A. Water source like you would all but us lucifer mistletoe is just that in the gotta come to think of the queen nobody is not my achievement mr davies are 5 beautiful lands were conceived by the need and carried out by the people themselves if they would produce or even floor it with the idea of making a film like this theyd probably be branded as crazy. How was the sentiment during the war the soviets were brave heroes resisting nazis thats going to change of course after the war but once the cold war begins. Little people think that hollywood is a free place but really what is strictly defined by one side of the business and the other side is idealist. How would i define hollywood is they call it a dream manufacturer which i thinks true but i think equally its a propaganda factory. Welcoming our viewers from around the world live from Central London this is r. T. U. K. Its emerged the man arrested in connection with saturdays knife attack in reading where 3 people died was known to the u. K. Security services. The Prime Minister get set to announce the easing of lockdown restrictions for the Hospitality Industry as the government is criticized for continuing to Quarantine International travelers. Would rush campaigners to ban the u. K. Government implements the findings of a key report amid fears the immigration scandal could repeat itself ill be talking to a green dress campaigner you face potential deportation. And an alliance of caribbean country it says u. K. Financial institutions that benefited from slavery should go further than just saying sorry and to pay reparations for the here comes a blunt take slavery. For the sea campaign has claimed the government is misleading the public over the security of Health Services over to 19 data with technology for the sec to profit. Its emerged the suspect arrested in connection with such a days terror attack in reading was on the radar of the u. K. Security services libyan refugee kyras saddam was detained under the terrorism act and is accused of stabbing 3 people to death and injuring several more before this r. T. U. Case these are all a choice being written by their isa so the suspect was known to the Security Services. Absolutely we understand that this attack which of course took place on saturday a very brutal and bloody attack carried out by a man who was as it turns out known to the Security Services he approached a group of people who were out enjoying the weather in full group park in full regard and in reading on saturday evening before using some time to play the knife that slash out 3 people have lost their lives sadly a number of others are injured those 3 victims have now been named one of them is a teacher by the name of james follow another one is an american citizen by the name of Joe Ritchie Bennett and the 3rd man to been named just earlier this evening is david wales who we understand was a scientist now earlier the school of was to follow the teacher held a minutes silence for a 2 minute silence to remember him and to pay their respects and also the home secretary pretty good self she visited the site laid flowers again to pay her respects to those who had been killed in the attack and she also appeared in Parliament Later in the day to update the house and to give you and to really stress that there were lessons to be learned but that the Security Services she says have one of the most comprehensive approaches to countering terrorism by the recent decades we have all too often seen the results of poisonous extremist ideology the terrorist threat that we face is complex diecast and rapidly changing and its clear that the threat posed by iran matters is growing. These terrorists are united by the same vile hate that rejects the values of our Country House day decency tolerance and respect and we are united in our mission to tackle terrorism enormous problems. So what do we know about the suspect he was arrested very soon after the attack hes understood to be a 25 year old man by the name of shady subtler he is a libyan refugee who was granted asylum back in 2018 the was initially arrested on suspicion of murder its understood that he was rearrested under the terrorism act alone of course the motivation for the attack hasnt been established yet according to reports however he was known to my 5 there were reports that he had been part of a group called the 17th of february revolutionary brigade who had been fighting against colonel gadhafi with the support of nato forces so for that reason will be embarrassing to the government also the fact that he was possibly known to m i 5 who missed this attack completely a lot and needs who services will argue that they have tens of thousands of people on their radar any one time on their watch list and that its very difficult to really track morgan and looked around 3000 at a time and they have been other reports which point to the attack you know the suspect attackers and mindset his probation officer saying that he suffered from Serious Mental Health issues or been reports of drug use in the papers and that he had left become a strange from his family and even converted from his religion to we with his friends that have fallen in with other friends so all of these reports coming from neighbors and people who say that they knew him pointing to perhaps the reason why the intelligence agencies missed him perhaps he simply fell off their radar its only thank you very much on day thankful and terrorism expert and former Police Officer dr david lereah told me that lone wolf attacks on difficult to prevent. One of the issues is the fact that theres this this man was a subject of interest and they had to do a Risk Assessment and but we look at this fact theres 3000 individuals who are actively being looked at who people of concern so theyre deemed as a high risk and it is between 25 to 30000 subjects of interest so it depends on the quality of information intelligence got that comes in on an individual these Risk Assessments are not taken lightly the taken very seriously because the last thing you want to do in terms interest them is detect what weve been fortunate we problem is now that with 3 People Killed he was a prevent it so we cause weve seen it before with other incidents where individuals can get such a low level attack were on a system that was a subject of interest but deemed a low risk for that but judging by some of those numbers he was saying that day theres no way the Security Services can actually stop every line attack even if someone is on their radar already. Thats right its it is its a fluid thing its not a static the theres constant assessments made on all those individuals even those who are subjects of interest if more intelligence information comes in that poses that they could be a greater threat than they will be looked at but lets sort of bowmans as well that since march 27th seen the u. K. Security services in the Counterterrorism Police are actually prevented over 20. Plus from happening i mean example is the convictions recently for the attempted for the for the plaza in st pauls cathedral so you know that they are working this shows that theyre working but of course these type of attacks where one individual who acts on their own. Who could be inspired by whatever theyre looking at reading at the so so difficult to prevent. Prime minister baraks johnson is on cheers they set to announce the easing of lockdown restrictions for the Hospitality Industry including changes to the social distancing rules Health Secretary matt hancock told the governments Coronavirus Press briefing that everything was still very much on track whilst the still much to do we are clearly making progress with working through our plan and this data shows that that plan is working we protected the n. H. S. And thanks to the patients and the sacrifice of everyone watching infections of falling the n. H. S. Is restoring and the virus is in retreat a month ago around one in 400. 00 people have the virus now its around one in 1700. 00 and this means that tomorrow the Prime Minister will be able to set out the next steps in our plan to ease the national lockdown. Well the 2 metre social distancing rule could be relaxed to just one me so too in our restaurants and pubs to open it near capacity july the 4th has long been pencilled in as the reopening days but conditions are expected to be attached patrons could be asked to register when they enter an establishment so they can be traced if an outbreak occurs or drinks and food could also be ordered in advance by smartphone or tablet with no queuing bars allowed and the Hospitality Industry has taken a massive blow during the lockdown with many out is facing permanent closure or us as m. P. Scientists and Business Leaders call on the government to ditch its coded 19 travel quarantine system professor peter pirit the director of the London School of hygiene and tropical medicine says its completely useless and should be dropped as soon as possible experts say the blanket restrictions which forced all arrivals to quarantine for 14 days would only have been successful at the very start of the pandemic for the former director of the w h os Cancer Program professor carol sykora told me that quarantine only makes sense for arrivals from places with higher infection rates than the u k. I think you know were so at the critical moment in unleashing a lockdown and the 2 things that we need to do is to reduce the distance that we can safely stand away from each other from to meet as to what i think is a sensible 11 we should thats what the government show recommends and then get rid of the quarantine that theres no point the other countries in europe have a lower coronavirus incidence rate than we do so it makes no sense to quarantine people coming from a lower area now if you take latin america some of those countries are still quite high and that would make sense to do something to at least check the health inbound arrivals but coron cheating for the common good the common European Community she makes absolutely no sense at the moment and its not being enforced anyway its almost like a joke but a 2nd wave as we know would be catastrophic for the travel and tourism in say so that we cant risk it can wait. Thats the problem is the 2nd wave theory which is proposed by many if you give me all just a moment would come perhaps its chembur im would be disastrous for the basing their mobiles on the influenza pandemic of 1918 with the 2nd wave actually killed far more people than the 1st wave but were as an oncologist i really hope it doesnt happen because theyll be more Cancer Patients suffering with delays and so on but my wish is that not what this pandemic will do i think the evidence of the move is that its coming to the end i think boris tomorrow will make it one meter not 2 weeks as i think youll abolish quarantine next week except the system will have to be in place if a country has a very high level of corona virus infection and there it may be sensible to have it but that doesnt apply to Europe Russia already if the other countries around. Windrush campaign as a calling on the u. K. Government to act on failings which led to the immigration scandal or risk being repeated a petition signed 5130000 people was delivered to number 10 the head of this mondays 72nd windrush anniversary it urges the u. K. Government to speed up compensation and implement the recommendations highlighted in the comprehensive Lessons Learned review the scandal was named after the ship the empire windrush which 1st brought families from caribbean countries to help rebuild postwar britain in 2018 many from the generation were wrongly detained and they denied equal rights and at least 83 deported under the home office a hostile environment policy towards migrants it led to the resignation of the then home secretary. Well the Lessons Learned review into the scandal sets out to 30 recommendations including a full review of the hostile environment policy it also calls for better systems to monitor and evaluate all migration policy is and it wants reform of the culture of the department which it says is currently driven by targets and disbelief Wendy Williams who authored the review has also warned there is a grave risk of the same scandal happening again unless the Home Office Takes action a Government Spokesperson has said the home office is currently considering the report the home secretary has been clear that the mistreatment of the when rushed generation by successive governments was completely unacceptable and she will right those wrongs Wendy Williams recommended to the home office should reflect carefully on the review before responding and we are committed to honoring the request the home secretary has also committed to provide an update to parliament for summer recess. Of along the skyline are joined by a winter campaigner who was told by the home office he should return to antigua after 59 years thats a world i wrote yet mr robey of thank you for joining us tell us your story us threatened with deportation to a country that you left at the age of 4 when. I was in the well can you tell us what happened to you well are there all the possible this frenzy is i recently got my 1st boss for a nice sum to cross i re re new day in 19 eightyfour i. Finished in 1995 in that time i lost it in 9096 obviously i didnt think it attractive. On apply for my os i was told by the us office i never issued with a possible on numerous occasions i went to saw my amp a. Same thing happened but no joy its all so therefore i was then asked to inform the imuss of my right of abode. This reply by saying no you have no right so there i was left in limbo for. Fear its the how did you convince here also it is that i paid such a mistake well its a situation of a mass at the end of this Government People the documentation and is only when i received the deportation document i got a response from the home office when i went so the the default a day home office so they with my documents there was i when the it seeming so the paper from best took all my information and focus all my documentation and i was sent home for the following day i got a response on mr richs and combat home office it looks of my documentation and he said well were going to fast track people so the possible fix so missed the end of the. Possible office so i white sheets and within a 2 weeks see it found my passport and my mothers possible like i saw the. Face of the governor said the government then they managed to resolve youre problem and finally finally yes yes and the government is trying to and the government is trying to help i mean theyve established the the wind Compensation Scheme and theyve had knowledge that mistaken havent they. Have done so yes so have the government sanctions from the whole of the scandal been received in the community. Well its a bit when drawn its one of those situations where because there was no trust because the way we would tell because people spent a lifetime in this country and i know im actually ive not been told they have no right of abode. Devastation so. Its a matter of trust i can you. Were all your life and then the government so you have not acknowledged no tax returns no jury service no nothing and yet were part of this system and we have it from a very young. Mr mr about what you think the government needs to do to reestablish that trust and also policies going forward. It was difficult to really cite a site for someone like myself but its. Dealing with the history of how we came. So usually in school so i pretty as an understanding why we had a my week. Until that happens were still beat nobodies so you know you dont need to you know its so dark side of english history which has never been so. Mr i wont i thank you very much indeed for technician story thank you thank you for having me. And still to come a sound. Pretty thick outline and say the government is misleading the public about the same thing at the present n. H. S. I think in 1800. President Vladimir Putin in his own words tells us how we understand history and the Current International system also why everybody paraguay hates john bolton as he laughs all the way to the bank. We go to work so you straight home for. The world is driven by a dream shaped by one person of those great. Dares thinks. We dare to ask. For. Welcome back campaign has claimed the government has misled the public about how n. H. S. States that related to cope with 19 is being used the open democracy also says that private firms are set to profit from the data. Well the Privacy Campaign group warms the contracts could pave the way for socalled unprecedented long term access to the personal health data of millions of n. H. S. Uses by unaccountable private tech firms theyre also warning n. H. S. Users that they could be re i tend to find based on this stored health data while Tech Companies may also be able to profit from the intellectual property generated just part of the project despite government assurances to the contrary while open democracy has also expressed its concerns about the vague language concerning who would be responsible for the safety of n. H. S. Users personal data or the data controller that the contract use the group says that while the government initially claimed n. H. S. England would be in control one contract proved that this isnt the case it also says assurances about the anonymity of use of state or had been removed from an earlier government blog and h. S. England maintains all data uploaded to the n. H. S. Coded 900 data store will not identify individuals the n. H. S. Kopek 1000 data store holds personal data representing aspects of individual patients access to Health Services including diagnosis treatment and patient Management Information the personal data held in the n. H. S. Kovac 1000 data store is sued on a miser in line with Information Commissioners Office guidance and best practice and does not identify individual patients or privacy activist and Technology Expert bill new told me that the lack of transparency and im limiting is causing some major concerns. The u. K. 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Millions of britons are being burdened by unexpected debt after having to cover the cost of a relatives funeral a report commissioned by the british Senior Insurance agency showed that almost half of all adults have financially contributed towards a family members funeral on average around 2000 pounds has been paid out for loved ones but despite the state cost 2. 00 in 5 people say they dont have enough cash set aside to pay for their own funeral let alone or relatives are pretty serious also found that a quarter of adults are concerned about rising fuel costs because of it 19 social distancing measures also mean that many cant even attend or arrange proper funerals as martin undertakes a look at the growing trend online memorials. With so many lives tragically lost to cope with 19 there are many bereaved relatives and friends who want to say goodbye but im one of the cruellest twist of the pandemic social distancing regulations in force to prevent the spread of the virus means even that isnt always possible it was thoughtful to to turn out now be out hope youre safe youve actually got home the most horrific high. And both thing that you want to have that you want to do is hope you have. A grieving as well and have that taken away. So that she wrote to be socially and we were asked me are there a few. Men and im not having that the rotation i rarely get. According to charity Cruse Bereavement care over 1500000 people have been unable to either attend or even hold a funeral during the pandemic but with that in mind video for dissent memorials was set up using free lances from the television and Film Industry 100 volunteers from across the u. K. United to help the reef families by creating memorial videos of their loved ones online what we do is to service what alongside families collects and reoffer sotos and net reads and then we will Work Together the sounds and capture the life and memory of that one not just one. In a way he wanted to make shot down so that memory serves. Are now together that he shared at any one say goodbye. Stella heath died in april after spending almost a week in intensive care at softball hospital her 2 daughters said they felt they had everything taken away from them during the short and basic social distancing funeral but the subsequent memorial video created for the mother was a huge help for the family. And actually acting here prograde provocative the grieving especially from a new guy login away from my wife and i. Agree to live. From matt and obviously not being able to be mom at the end of the hours where we go oh. Well now its a memento from live from my children are high and you know something that they can kick around i mean path out of 3 generations its really our main and. Im just to celebrate. Matching our. Record. With lockdown rules slowed easing its hoped funerals could be returning to something close to normal but in the meantime those who have lost their loved ones do have a way to help say goodbye at andrews are to u. K. London. Colleagues for r. T. America will take over at the top of the hour so from all the team here in westminster by. Nuclear become a battleground in the u. S. In vermont people are demanding the shutdown of a local plant from yankee is right now my focus because its a very dangerous oh no claire power plant the owner is attempting to run the reactor beyond its operational limit. Just sort of puts a magnifying glass on wheres the power in this country wheres it going is it moving more towards corporate interests or is it more in the idea of a traditional participatory democracy as powerline with the people this case demonstrates that struggle in the very real ways. A struggle. Seemed wrong. Just dont hold. Any beliefs yet to shape out does they become advocates and engagement equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart when shes to look for common ground. Hello and welcome to cross out were all things are considered im people about president Vladimir Putin in his own words tells us how he understands history and the Current International system also why everybody apparently hates john bolton as he laughs all the way to the bank. To discuss this and more im joined by my guest George Samuel him would have as he is author of bombs for peace nato is humanitarian war on your was lobbying and in london we crossed to alexander me curacy is a writer on Legal Affairs as well as editor in chief of duran are joining cross up rules and in germany combine rounds were going to how its 1st in london for. Those of us that are very interested in whats going on in the International System obviously read the article the Vladimir Putin has abolished in the National Interest it was titled let me approach in the real reasons of the 75th anniversary of world war 2 why did you write it and what is its importance now that the 1st reason he wrote it is because its the sentence he sets out its necessary it stops all the sort of the victory i should say well which russia is about celebrate so its timely but of course its also timely because its to reste firstly these attacks the top taking place in the west and in some countries in eastern and Central Europe on the excepts it mainstream understanding of starts of that all the all reach its. 2nd will these attempts to equate russia with nazi germany as the region of the 2nd will was used strongly wishes to refute the 2nd is because i think hes very concerned the Current International developments and he wants to join