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A dream manufacturer which it is true. But i think equally its a propaganda factor. Long after i 1st heard about it in the news i still couldnt believe this was this really how the United States sees the history of forward to but there it was the official white house on a social network and its clearly stated that it was america and Great Britain that defeated the nazis during the 2nd world war without even a word about the soviet union and the version on the official african website looks even more discouraging there it turns out that world war 2 was started by germany and the soviet union it wasnt russia but france that took the brunt of it and in fact the u. S. S. R. Didnt liberate the europe from hitler but occupied it it feels like the author either knows nothing about history or he does and wants to rewrite it all that makes those old how would movies that were made during the war seem even more remarkable american audience was presented with a totally different picture of the world and the soviet union back that in the next 30 minutes well learn how history has been written and rewritten through american cinema. In 1903 at the height to ford were to the United States release mission to moscow a film about a visit to the u. S. S. R. By American Ambassador joseph davis who was splayed by actor walter houston. In n. C. Now when coming into the soviet union in the name of my government thank you the u. S. Ambassador arrives in the u. S. Sorry harboring a degree of skepticism but on the whole what he sees there and what millions of american movie goers saw along with them breaks all the stereotypes about the soviet government of those times we keep experimented to find ways to increase our efficiency what kind of effect is this that much different than the rest yesterday even though. It can usually be compared to. The american film might even make the u. S. S. R. Look better than soviet propaganda pictures or books and we see modern army work in factories and friendly people who speak fluent english. Oh how proud i be if i could do that well its russian perhaps someday we shall all speak the same language if the wood producer even flirted with the idea of making a film like this theyd probably be branded as crazy but it was still possible back in the 940 s. This is one of my favorite parts an aide tells of the American Ambassador mr davis we need to check your office and this is why the higher rank an american diplomat tells us and stop gossiping and stop listening to it were here in a sense as guests of the soviet government not going to believe that they trust the United States to find until a prove otherwise and mazing. In fact the film a semi documentary it was based on a book written by a master davis himself so were not talking about a fictional diplomat here but a very real one who was so impressed with the soviet government that it seems he was ready to forgive a lot. Of water source i q do. You wish to figure. Out a time to throw. To no thank you. Thank you. We. Do see you who do plenty of those in there i believe said that history will record you as a great builder for the benefit of mankind it is not my mr davies out of 5 plans were conceived and carried out by the people themselves again this is how you would this isnt soviet propaganda the movie itself. Is the purge trials that were taking place in the soviet union its really apology for the stalinist government but that was acceptable in 1943 you could do that another hollywood film from the time the north star depicts liason a soviet collective farm on the eve of the war the american audience doesnt hear a word about collectivization or the dispossession of independent farmers. The soviet thousands look well fat and are so happy they sing at the end of their work day. Was the filmmakers even went to the trouble of translating the lyrics of a famous salvias song why it is my motherland and made American Children learned by heart. I. Was. The north star it was produced by Samuel Goldwyn cofounder of one of hollywoods most successful Film Companies Metro Goldwyn mayer. But understand why famous american producers shot such a blatantly perfect and they stick picture we need to go to the archives of the library of congress where a document from the socalled office of for information of the United States is still stored. More information was established in 1942 by the Roosevelt Administration was basically a propaganda effort. Limited time to get its not legal residents in the sense in it they do that because you split it into. Franklin roosevelt knew that if he wanted to actually turn American Public opinion into supporting the war and even more so in supporting our soviet allies during the war he was going to need to use hollywood. Let a lot of what was going to davis cup one of the classes. For sally who is also. A little door. At that shit is. Glorious shit is well north and you feel it. And. I think. Sometimes the officer for Information Commission how they would musical comedies like this is the army which were intended to increase the prestige of military service and raise the morale of soldiers fighting overseas one of the roles in that film was played by a young actor named Ronald Reagan the future president of the United States. Ive missed you too plenty. Of thing id like to explain. That there were other orders that werent so benevolent in 1942 after pearl harbor president roosevelt ordered the forced relocation of 120000 japanese people from the west coast of the United States is hard to believe but in those years japanese americans were simply put in buses and sent to specially created internment camps in the u. S. Territory the officer for information was staffed with providing media to support this monstrous initiative. Japanese fishermen had every opportunity to watch the movement of our ships. Japanese farmers were living close to. The propaganda that the japanese really are going to be act on behalf of the japanese government has sabotaged the war effort and put arsenic in American Food and blow up the defense so there was none of that but the office of war information produced various documentaries defending this practice. But the Office Issued very different instructions concerning the u. S. S. R. The soviet union was to be portrayed as a friend of them. In distress. In the north star in the soviet presence peaceful life is interrupted by the not seen beijing. After the germans capture the village they begin taking the childrens blood for transfusions for their wounded soldiers. The north star was nominated for 6 Academy Awards and 944 according to declassified documents the office so for information commanded its contribution to building a positive image of russia. In this presentation of the suffering and courage of the russians will shown that the strength of russia is in its people who are willing to give then the times to keep their countrymen from fascist slavery and to ensure a free World Football man. None the less the authors did ask hollywood to make if he edits to the script 1st to emphasize that the ideologies of the u. S. S. R. And germany were completely different and this is why the conflict broke out and secondly show through the young characteristics that the u. S. And russia can Work Together when peace comes. It was not an accurate portrayal if you of the imagination or however they did follow the day of washington and. Propaganda of propaganda bill including major hollywood of the time. Another pro soviet film released by hollywood during the war years called days of glory tells the story of a detachment of soviet partisans the groups leader was played by biting. Nollywood actor gregory pam. Gregory pack was the brad pitt of the 19 fifties and sixties he starred alongside audrey abercorn in roman holidays in 1953 and in 1962 pack won an oscar for his performance as Atticus Finch in the adaptation of the cult american novel ought to kill a mockingbird but the sex symbol and a least star was still an unknown actor back in the 940. 00 s. Hes debut rolled in hollywood was as a solvent partisan later named lattimer or a surrogate for you. Thank you now some problems. New diminished of gold if not i mean i when we have been it would be less than that so lets see it is a propagandist view but also its youve got to you know. Youre youre not really wouldnt notice we had to change american thinking about the soviets and we did so successfully it wasnt only hollywood that participated in the campaign to improve the soviet union image leading newspapers and magazines were also involved here for example is what the American Media wrote about lattimer lenin in those years well you know doesnt buy chortle to the greatest level of more little time. Somebodys mere lists you wont spot still sort of meet all of a book tiny in you can be many lost a simple instead of the globe and there are no been the tsunami alone. New york times and that was the sentiment during the war that the soviets were brave her roic and resisting the nazis and so we downplayed the crimes of stalin and the repressive aspects in all of american writing or propaganda during the war including in the hollywood films thats going to change of course after the war once the cold war begins with the onset of the cold war the task became more difficult now they needed to find a way to explain to americans that our soviet friends were friends no more and in fact they were now animists they also have to imply that some of the things that had been shown about them previously were not entirely true. Nuclear power become a battleground in the u. S. In vermont people are demanding the shutdown of a local plant from my yankee is right now my focus because its a very dangerous oh no claire power plant the owner is attempting to run the reactor beyond its operational limit this case just sort of puts a magnifying glass on wheres the power in this country where is it going is it moving more towards corporate interests or is it more in the idea of a traditional gist of. Power lie with the people this case demonstrates that struggle in very real ways our struggle on r. T. For a merger would. Not mean. Order. Entry control of ski was the 1st soviet filmmaker to leave for our would before the collapse of the u. S. S. R. In 989 he directed an action comedy starring Sylvester Stallone and kurt russell called tango and cash by that time hed already realized that hollywood wasnt the place hed originally imagined. As. You usually are. It was more. Shy. Burgess ignition. Lead you could drop in. Your pool near snorkel because your home. Your former produce officials go for doing research. Despite making a serious of successful films in the us including tango and cash runaway train and marias lovers and reconsider lawsky decided to return to russia in the early nineties as hed already become entirely disenchanted with the american Film Industry. Who were stronger would you. d a lot. More good i started small in. Hollywood was. All in portraying the soviet union in a positive light during world war 2 that they need us president harry truman began to quickly regret it after the surrender. Of the quintile is still a. Little bit didnt. Know should it be able to let the city of new presley shouldnt she world in a 1000000 used. To live in when that is the closest could be or at. Least the british in those little. In the 19th thirtys the communist party in the United States was pretty strong. And i say that is a good thing they were critical in fighting early fighters for civil rights in the United States hollywood has attracted all these creative artists writers directors producers actors and actresses and intellectuals were the ones who are most attracted to the communist ideal and they wanted to see the soviet union is representing Something Better than the sword and materialism of american capitalism so in 947 the House Unamerican Activities Committee bore down on hollywood it was this committee that introduced this socalled how would blacklist which included people should be excluded from working in the u. S. Film industry due to their alleged political convictions. The u. S. Government had to affirmatively go after leftists in hollywood and destroy their careers and make them testify in congress put people in jail drive people in don employment sometimes into suicide so many. C. D. s hollywood back on board on the anti soviet train. Among those given testimony to the House Unamerican Activities Committee or to put it simply ratting out their colleagues was an actor named Ronald Reagan the future u. S. President was already actively participating in civic life even in those days. The north star a film about soviet collective farmers that was hailed by the academy just a couple of years earlier was now deemed anime propaganda and it screenplay writer Lillian Hellman was accused of being a communist sympathizer and damning label in those years timely all of those. Film the propaganda films that were made during world war 2 well brought into question and hollywood got scared. The north star was eventually released under the name armored attack in the new version the title comrade was removed and narration comparing the nazis to the soviet soldiers who suppressed the hungaroring uprising in 1956 was at it i. How what is considered to be an independent private sector of economy a group of private companies and yet it seems like the government finds ways to influence the movie make an industry and i just can wrap my head around how they actually pulled this off by these publicity trials is show trials stalin understood how to do that hitler understood how to do that well the United States under truman and eisenhower also understood added to that. Untrained and intimidating hollywood begins to promote an entirely different image of the soviet union lets be honest have we anything like it in bush you know can you imagine what that gets would be a little like that. What a film that pokes fun at the behavior of soviet bird cross abroad was shot in 1939 but it turned out to be most useful with the onset of the cold war. Why was. The knowledge the committee made it ok actually just because a lot of us who know that the government moved some way to get it with. Both of their own Little Service well could go to the top of the most evil of. Limited arms. Ok. The americans actually distributed and promoted in post war europe especially in italy where the communist partys position was strong there was never stated in the film that communism and the u. S. S. R. Back it went without saying. And i was not going to say lets go to the most. Seriously broken realistically any bill so real 2 thirds is willing to be able to be to admit it dumps eruptive and petition to levy to. Lower it when. We have the high ideals. But the climate. The hollywood began producing a spate of. Anticommunist films during this time oh its the same propaganda images nobody ever is idealistic about anything that women were ugly or they were beautiful if they were beautiful they were nymphomaniacs now my students find them laughable but are the time they were taken seriously movies like i was hominess for the f. B. I. I married a communist i read moscow how guilty of treason the red menace this was a terrible time in america in 1954 the United States and Great Britain released an animated film called animal farm just based on a novel of the same name by George Orwell its production was sponsored by the cia which was very interested in the anti soviet subtext of the story which is about a farm and the big 3 seized power there i manage i am. Actually am how many. Traders among us. But by the sixtys and seventys relations between the us and the us ceasar had already reached the point of the time and this was immediately reflected in the Hollywood Pictures the soviet union was certainly not presented as the friend of the United States but he was presented as an enemy it was more like the United States than the soviet union could cooperate against the bad guy look at the james bond movie thats a classic although drama with it would always be a russian agent who would be the hook to bond and the cia people would be wary even the visions of him but they could always go off for a game again the real enemy. The relations between the. Trees began to deteriorate again in the eightys after Ronald Reagan who had been actively anticommunist even when he was a hollywood actor became president of the United States even legendary movie boxer rocky billboard played by Sylvester Stallone entered the fray by taking on the daunting doped up soviet fighter ivan drago and they. Follow the capital of capital on those that are both of them that air force india from the warner boys resort of mr mason with the lead on the 2nd beagle said its because say this because theres plenty of people just. Not theres numerous still to come theres were rumors rumors. Never just arent true but it was widely followed the policies of the state department the pentagon well they got a lot of money from the state department and the pentagon the best they found the pentagon to have a lot of say in in works of hollywood ya know. Somewhere drew scrooge im sure. I mean years ago are you. Going for growing with your desired should you. Should die or should you. You know. Meet the parents with ben stiller funny movie love it right. So you find out that deniro was a cia operative at one point ben stiller goes into his layer in the basement and he sees photos of deniro with clinton with what looks like maybe a bent a lot in type figure originally stiller found a cia. On deniro suggests this cia itself reviewed the script and said then and then. Youre not going to bring up cia torture do they watch every single movie that is about to be produced in our wood in any film that has any military hardware in it an obvious example top gun you got it asked for permission you dont just walk on to the air force base and start flying jets around. So if you get their permission. They get the right. To look at what youre saying about. The officer for information which was responsible for propaganda during world war 2 was officially closed in 1945 but the relationship that developed between al the wood and the Us Government in those years seems to have grown only stronger a since staff at different Times American rulers have needed different myths including some the directly contradicted earlier ones as in the case of russia d but no matter how difficult the order this factory has always do deflate delivered. Hollywood had always been afraid of government says. The strip so what they did was that they censored themselves. In the fiction. Of the daily basis. You know what is the worst they believe its. Not a conspiracy theorist it wasnt created for propaganda purposes but hollywood certainly is now a real Propaganda Force in the world probably the greatest Propaganda Force thats ever existed. President Vladimir Putin in his own words tells us how he understands history and the Current International system also why everybody hates john bolton as he lost all the way to the bank. But he saw the need for good in each other than the. One. But on the but i was going to the book and so i saw that this is for me just. Instead of. Me Emotional Learning to. Do i feel is totally stuck or your muscles from the knee which resists but if i should. Feel the church. Compassion that. We think he minds be soldier to peace also the boots hes wearing. To church so so look folks can move to oppose will appear more than willing to get on the show stuck with summarizing a police force sort of us hold. Well coming up to us from around the world live from Central London this is r. T. U. K. Its a merge the man arrested in connection with saturdays knife attack in reading where 3 people died also live to the u. K. Security services. When rush campaigners demands the u. K. Government implement the findings of a key report amid fears the immigration scandal could repeat itself. An alliance of caribbean countries says u. K. Financial institutions that benefit from slavery should go further than just saying sorry and pay reparations we hear from a transatlantic slavery expert. The Prime Minister gets set to announce the easing of law down restrictions for the Hospitality Industry the government is criticised for continuing to quarantine international. And privacy count in this claim the government is misleading the public over the security of Health Service code 19 data with Technology Firms set to profit obvious talking to a tech expert and activist from. Its emerged the suspect arrested in connection with such a days terror attack in reading was on the radar of the u. K. Security services libyan refugee kyras the dollar was detained under the terrorism act and is accused of stabbing 3 people to death and injuring several more on to you case. With the latest film and. All of their research so the suspect was known to the Security Services. Yeah absolutely this attack taking place on saturday evening in reading at the forward gardens park area where a group of people were sitting enjoying the weather when a man who. Had been revealed was unknown to the Security Services approached them and began his friends it attacked with a blade or a knife of some type 3 people have been left dead and many others injured now we know that 2 of them have been named one of them is teacher by the name of james fallon another one is an american citizen by the name of Joe Ritchie Bennett now mr far along as i mentioned was a teacher and the whole school where he taught held 2 minute moment of silence for him at 10 am this law being and there were also chips paid to the victims by the pit viper to tell the home secretary who did visit scene of the attack and she was also in the commons this afternoon updating the house on the governments latest response to it and saying that justice will be done quickly and that there are lessons that need to be learnt by the recent decades we have all too often seen the results of poisonous extremist ideology the terrorist threat that we face is complex diecast and rapidly changing it is clear that the threat posed by matters is growing. These terrorists are united by the same file hate that rejects the values of our Country House day decency tolerance and respect and we are united in our mission to tackle terrorism enormous problems. Now the arrest was made on saturday as mentioned d and the suspect who is in custody is a 25 year old man by the name of haiti settle and now hes a libyan man a libyan citizen who was granted asylum here in the u. K. In 2018 he was initially arrested on suspicion of murder but we understand hes been rearrested under the terrorism act now interestingly according to reports he was known to m i 5 and there ive been reports that he was part of a libyan rebel group an Opposition Group that were armed and fighting against colonel gadhafi during the war following the arab spring to overthrow mr good athlete now while we understand that he had been traveling back and forth from the u. K. To join the february 17th brigade is in libya to attack Government Forces there now this will be embarrassing for a number of reasons to the government not least because it appears m i 5 were aware of him he was on their radar but also of course the government the u. K. Government at the time would have been on the same side fighting against mr gadhafi as the nato forces and so there will be many questions raised as to like in the case of the match the bombing whether the perpetrator was known to be traveling back and forth without being stopped but of course the security agencies will say that there are around 30000 people that they are watching on their watch list and that they can only really evaluate or analyzed around 3000 of them at any one time and now mr now the attack that took place of course by this individual. Here the been arrested before for other crimes not linked to terrorism and of course his probation officer saying that he had been a little more Mental Health issues id had suffered from severe Mental Health so its unclear whether for those reasons perhaps the Security Forces didnt see the threat as it was a cirrhotic thank you very much indeed. Well Prime Minister Barak Johnson is set to announce the easing of lot down restrictions for the Hospitality Industry on tuesday including changes to the social distancing rules but to meet a social distancing rule could be relaxed to just one meter to allow restaurants and pubs to open it near capacity july the 4th has long been pencilled in as the reopening date but conditions are expected to be attatched patrons could be asked to register when they enter an establishment so they can be traced if an outbreak occurs and drinks and food could also be ordered in advance by smartphone or tablet with no queuing it bars allowed how secretary matt hancock says britain is clearly on track for an easing of restrictions but if a surge were to happen the move would be reversed the industry has taken a massive blow during the lockdown with many outlets facing permanent closure well thats as m. P. s scientists and Business Leaders call on the government to ditch its covert 19 travel quarantine system professor peter peel its the director of the London School of hygiene and tropical medicine says its completely useless and should be dropped as soon as possible experts say the blanket restrictions which forced all arrivals to quarantine for 14 days would only have been successful at the very start of the pandemic well the former director of the w. H. O. Counsel Program Professor carol sykora told me that quarantine only makes sense for arrivals from places with higher infection rates than the u. K. I think you know words at the critical moment in unleashing lockdown and the 2 things that we need to do is to reduce the distance that we can safely stand away from each other from 2 metres to what i think is a sensible 11. 00 we should thats what the government show recommends and then get rid of the quarantine that theres no point the other countries in europe have a lower coronavirus incidence rate than we do so it makes no sense to quarantine people coming for a lower area now if you take latin america some of those countries are still quite high and that would make sense to do something to at least check the health inbound arrivals but coron cheating for the common good the common European Community sheep make absolutely no sense at the moment and its not being enforced anyway its almost like a joke but a 2nd wave as we know would be catastrophic for the travel and tourism in say so therefore we cant risk it can wait. Thats the problem is the 2nd wave theory which is proposed by many if you give me all just a moment would come perhaps its chembur im would be disastrous for the basing their models on the influenza pandemic of 980 with the 2nd wave actually killed far more people than the 1st wave but we are as an oncologist i really hope it doesnt happen because theyll be more Cancer Patients suffering with delays and so on but my wish is that not what this pandemic will do i think the evidence of the move is that its coming to the end i think boris tomorrow will make it one metre not 2 weeks as i think youll abolish quarantine next week except the system will have to be in place if a country has a very high level of corona virus infection there it may be sensible to have it but that doesnt apply to Europe Russia already if the other countries around. Windrush campaigners are calling on the u. K. Government to act on failings which led to the immigration scandal or risk them being repeated a petition signed 530000 people was delivered to number 10 head of this mondays 72nd windrush anniversary it urges the u. K. Government to speed up compensation and implement the recommendations highlighted in the comprehensive Lessons Learned review the scandal was named after the ship the empire windrush which 1st brought families from caribbean countries to help rebuild postwar britain and 2018 many from the generation were wrongly detained denied legal rights and at least 83. 00 deported under the Home Office Hostile Environment policy towards migrants it led to the resignation of then home secretary. Well the Lessons Learned review into the scandal sets 30 recommendations including a full review of the hostile environment policy it also calls for better systems to monitor and evaluate all migration policies and it wants reform of the culture of the department which it says is currently driven by targets and disbelief Wendy Williams who authored the review has also warned there is a grave risk of the same scandal happening again unless the Home Office Takes action while a Government Spokesperson has said the home office is currently considering the report the home secretary has been clear that the mistreatment of the when rushed generation by successive governments was completely unacceptable and she will right those wrongs Wendy Williams recommended to the home office should reflect carefully on the review before responding and we are committed to honoring the request the home secretary has also committed to provide an update to parliament for summer recess well earlier i was joined by glenda c. Is a wind rush campaigner who was sent after working for the Health Service for more than 20 years she told me many of the wind rush generation are still waiting for justice they are. Some of the 664. 00 ounce which was. 1557 ounces or impact from my life and the rest was for the improvement from 2009 states which just passed some stuff and i reject that because so my weight has grabbed me. Even from some benefits and calculations from the back it up anyway well the governments admission the treatment of the Windrush Generation was unacceptable do you not feel like you are getting justice. Its not really me or what has changed nothing has changed were still waiting to see if this different excuse is just 3 weeks cover up was delayed for compensation there were other high profile cases hired before that meeting and were still waiting you know they said this one process started claims only 6 payments and they still got you put links in our. Daily lives if you rush this trivia. Well meanwhile a Regional Alliance of caribbean countries says Financial Companies which benefited from slavery should pay reparations rather than just saying theyre sorry last week the insurers lloyds of london apologize for its ties with the slave trade but the alliance insists sorry is not enough and demand some wealth back to Fund Development in the affected countries what is discussed there someone joined by a curator at the International Slavery museum in liverpool that show france why many call Sean Francois thank you for joining us what do you think are the chances of reparations being paid after all this time. Thank you for you and british and i think that. Were not tweeting people not tweeting what money people are waiting for for repair issue and i think that the mistress its money and repairing its 2 things theyre doing but its 2 things different i think that in the 1st time the 1st pope to meet that. People was engaged and involved deeply in florida in the 1st pope and through 3 if not enough but its a very very important that well in terms of the law theres no legal claim here is there its got to be down to those individual companies. Yes but interestingly yes not just to the 19 of june there is a very important vote in the in the European Parliament to admit that slavery trade and severity was a crime against humanity its official now from the point of view of the european country so its its its a big debates and but its we i think that its clearly advising its very good what the chances are where do you think the money the reparations should go to countries or descendants i think thats a i think that the the door is open for negotiation and discussion of negotiation but discussion on really what could be a reparation and what is the what is the world what i mean reparations i think that. Very we have to be really open i think that the best the best way to to do it its through picture education. Art and i think its class ship and i think that there is for example we are united. We are on a big project for the few for the coming years for example support i as an international the room you know its a part of the riparian because we are making a mistake Matthew Warchus about education and about knowledge but i think probably support. Contemporary black artist are very important to do you think the u. K. Government needs to be more i think that. Things going on little by little recognition and. Apologize important really not only in symbol but. Of. Confidence in yourself and i think that because the. Legacies of slavery out so deep in this country are blocked so slightly more rough is the discrimination. In the quality so the fact that its apologized. Very very good 1st step and do you think just finally showing france what you think the u. K. Government needs to apologize then definitely i think shoppers on monday call thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. So to come the sound. Of this a campaign to say the government is misleading the public about the safety of their personal n. H. S. Cope with 19 days we talked to a privacy activist. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Isolation or community. Are you going the right way or are you being led. Directly. What is true what is. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or unmaidenly shall i say. Welcome back campaign has claimed the government has misled the public about how n. H. S. Day so related to code 19 is being used the open Democracy Group also says that private firms are set to profit from the data. The pretty Campaign Group warns the contracts could pave the way for socalled unprecedented long term access to the personal health data of millions of n. H. S. Users by unaccountable private tech firms theyre also warning n. H. S. Users that they could be real identity fied based on their stored health data while Tech Companies may also be able to profit from the intellectual property generated as part of the project despite government assurances to the contrary what open democracy has also expressed its concerns about the vague language concerning who would be responsible for the safety of n. H. S. Users personal data or the data controller that the contracts use the group says that while the government initially claimed n. H. S. England would be in control while contract proves this wasnt the case it also says assurances about the anonymity of users data had been removed from an earlier government blog an h. S. A. England maintains all data uploaded to the n. H. S. Coded 900 data store will lot identify individuals the n. H. S. Kopek 1000 data store holds personal data representing aspects of individual patients access to Health Services including diagnosis treatment and patient Management Information the personal data held in the n. H. S. Kovac 1000 data store is sued on a miser in line with Information Commissioners Office Guidance and best practice and does not identify individual patients. With more on this im joined by privacy activist and Technology Expert bill new bill thank you for joining us i mean how confident do you that personal n. H. S. Data will be kept anonymous and private as the government serves. Well im not thrilled with a great deal of confidence given the fiasco with the 1st attempt at this up. Theyve also put themselves in a very difficult position having taken a very contentious path where they had a centralized system where they had to give some very strong assurances around anonymize ation and the fact that you wouldnt be able to be re identified because they were taking a centralized approach now that theyve had to abandon that approach and having to do Something Different than having to agree some contracts at great speed without necessarily a great deal of rigor or indeed transparency and therefore i dont think we can be filled with a great deal of confidence in well below what is actually such a contentious issue the data is being used to help tackle 1000 isnt that in everyones interest absolutely and the regulations the overarching ready to get a chance here around g. D. P. Are actually include some special provisions for epidemics which allow countries to do this sort of thing but the u. K. Took a very different pass from the whole of the rest of the world trying to do something very different and wanting to have centralized system and they never actually explained why that was absolutely necessary even when things started to go wrong suspicions of been raised also by their lack of transparency with regard to the contracts that theyre horribly putting in place for the new arrangements that theyre trying to pursue now and they previously made assurances around the plaque that it would be anonymised no theyre only saying youll be sued or normalized which is actually a lower level d of anonymization where real identification is possible and i think there are a lot on bell starting to be wrong and were demanding a greater level of transparency how could tech giants use the state of the enemy is it really a problem if they have access to it. There are all sorts of things to do with our health and our behavior that could be used against us in the future if we were ever so you want to want to have Health Insurance or whether we had embarrassing or potentially blackmail Little Health conditions where that data could be leaked in the future and they could be held against us either when we seek to get insurance where wed seek to get jobs or of somebody find something particularly embarrassing about us where were opens up front. And very briefly then bill if you dont mind is the law tough enough to protect us well the law should be our suspicions are that actually the government isnt necessary abiding by the law in the way it sets out g. P. L. Gives a provision for the use of private data for specific purposes were going pandemic or an epidemic but it specifies the minimum use of the data and the minimum retention and were not particularly confident that this is actually whats happening because the government is not being transparent about anything its doing that well have to leave it bill me thank you for talking to us. When millions of britons are being burdened by unexpected debt after having to cover the cost of a relatives funeral a report commissioned by the british Senior Insurance agency showed that almost half of all adults have financially contributed towards a family members funeral on average around 2000 pounds is being paid out for loved ones but despite the state cost 2. 00 in 5 people say they dont have enough cash set aside to pay for their own funeral let alone relatives well but are seniors also found that a quarter of adults are concerned about rising fuel costs because of it 900 social distancing measures also mean that many cant even attend or even arrange proper funerals are not an honest takes a look at the growing trend for online memorials. With so many lives tragically lost to cope with 19 there are many bereaved relatives and friends who want to say goodbye but im one of the cruellest twist for the pandemic social distancing regulations in force to prevent the spread of the virus means even that isnt always possible it was thoughtful to turn out now be out hope youre safe youve actually got home the most horrific high. And both thing that you want to have that you want to do is hope youre. A grieving as well and have that taken away. So that she wrote to be socially and we were asked me are there a few. Men and im not having that the rotation i rarely get. According to charity Cruse Bereavement care over 1500000 people have been unable to either attend or even hold a funeral join the pandemic but with that in mind video for dissent memorials was set up using freelances from the television and Film Industry 100 volunteers from across the u. K. United to help a refund please by creating memorial videos of their loved ones online but what we do is to service what alongside families. And reask soto use and net reads and then we will Work Together the sounds and capture the life and memory of that last not just one. In a way he wanted to make shot down so that memory serves. Are now together that could be shared to any one say goodbye. Stella heath died in april after spending almost a week in intensive care at softer draw hospital her 2 daughters said they felt they had everything taken away from them during the short and basic social distancing funeral but the subsequent memorial video created for the mother was a huge help for the family. And actually acting here prograde grow a lot of the grieving especially from a new guy login away from my wife and i. Agree to live. From matt and obviously not being able to be mom at the end of the hours where the guys. Are now if the men have lived for my children are high and you know something that they can he frowned pass out 3 generations i remain and. Im just to celebrate that when we have matching our. Record. With lockdown rules slowed easing its hoped funerals could be returning to something close to normal but in the meantime those who have lost their loved ones do have a way to help say goodbye at andrews r t u k london. Or news at the top of the hour. Nuclear become a battleground in the u. S. People are demanding the shut down of a local plant. Is right now my focus because its a very dangerous. Power plant that was attempting to run the reactor beyond its operational limit this case just sort of puts a magnifying glass on wheres the power in this country wheres it going is it moving more towards corporate interests or is it more in the idea of a traditional participatory democracy is are powerline with the people this demonstrates that struggle in the very real ways. A struggle on r. T. If you were going on the ground as the u. K. In the u. S. 2 countries seemingly sparing no expense to fight the pandemic despite having some of the highest recorded coronavirus death rates in the world enter a 2nd round of trade talks while the u. K. s deadline to form a trade deal with the e. U. Edges ever closer coming up on the show is mere liberalism and capitalist economic responsible for spawning deadly pandemics or for a big farms make flu wallace and in a country ravaged by cholera meningitis and yellow fever how is a poverty capital in the World Nigeria so far managed to keep its coronavirus death count so much lower than in the usa or u. K. We speak of nigerias top coronavirus. The director general of Nigeria Center Disease Control but the trick when it was told them all coming up in todays going underground the 1st u. S. President donald trump may have placed the blame for the current pandemic on communist china by coining it the chinese virus but evolutionary epidemiologist and author of big farms make big suggests that its actually capitalist greed that catalyzes deadly viruses he joins me now via skype from st paul in minnesota rob welcome to going underground just tell me starting off about how not just big films make big flu but your previous work near liberal suggests that capitalism fostered coronavirus one of the things that we get so programmed down is on the specifics of each of these viruses in terms of their clinical ors and thereby reality and thats all very important but what weve done is weve lost the context in which a series of new pathogens have urged the 20 percent in each one of those is tied into use changes or station thats being driven by Global Capital and now youre not biased because you had career virus you wrote the book before you got it but you contract a drone a virus what is a health care in the United States being like remembering of course of the United States has plenty of money when it wants to spend money well its health care United States is just another form of making profit so you dont have the money then you dont get the Health Care Even though not