To discuss this and more im joined by my guest George Samuel ian would have as he is author of bombs for peace nato is humanitarian war on your was lobbying and in london we crossed to alexander mature as he is a writer on Legal Affairs as well as editor in chief duran are joining crossed up rules and news in germany combine rounds were going to how its 1st in london for those of us that are very interested in whats going on in the International System obviously read the article the Vladimir Putin at published in the National Interest it was titled let me approach in the real reasons of the 75th anniversary of world war 2 why did you write it and what is its importance now the 1st reason he wrote it is because its the sentence he sets out its necessary it stops all the sort of the victory i should say well which russia is about celebrate so its timely but of course its also timely because theres 2 reste firstly these attacks the top taking. Place in the west and in some countries in eastern and Central Europe on the set see it mainstream understanding at the start of that all the origins of 2nd will these attempts to clayton russia with nazi germany as the region of the 2nd will was used strongly wishes to refute under 2nd because i think hes very concerned the Current International developments and he wants to draw parallels between what happened before the 2nd well and what is happening now in other words the collapse of the International System which he feels was unsustainable before the 2nd well and hes very unsustainable so. Thats really extremely well said you know george the me in the article is its a very long extremely detailed and my 1st reaction is this is a historical document all by itself it was only published a few days ago by the parallels of the the 1930 s. And what we have right now in the International Order is is following a part fragmenting and this is one of the it is the primary reason other than nazi aggression started the. War in europe and i think the parallels are really quite me have the United States using sanctions as a political weapon we we have constant pressure being brought against iran against and israel but has no basis in International Law and this and this is a very appropriate one and id like to point out to you that the United States is walking away from the entire. Spectrum of arms control agreements i think this is very dangerous as well. Yes youre absolutely right peter. And the sanctions regime that the United States has in particular are imposed against russia which is a very very Serious Business and that both the democrats and republicans want to tighten every you know you know as a as moving forward so whoever wins this election will want to impose some kind of sanctions some kind of penalties pressure the obsession obsessive hatred of russia and now that prevails in london and in washington is a very Serious Business and i think that. This is one of the issues that the putin is the point being out that this this really it does get into a very dangerous situation so what hes saying is that. This dangerous situation is part and parcel and that as alexander pointed out with this revisionist view of world war 2. According to which the nazis and the soviets jointly launched it and this was a European Parliament resolution this isnt something he story the story in quite just the pontificating way this is a recent resolution of the European Parliament joint aggression by the soviet and he was pointing out you know important facts to keep in mind and sent no that wasnt right was in september like in 39 no one no one stopped england and france from invading joe met me my job was preoccupied with the ball and it was a nonaggression pact no one stopped you didnt do anything so if you started blaming the soviet union for that so it is pointing this out and saying this is bottom ponselle of this. This most of the worlds this is over you know and then he moves on into the 2nd part of the article which is. Let us restore the. Post world war 2 order. Hes used as the basis of it the permanent 5 members of the Security Council so you know those were those are the days when that was the ability in the world and they went overseas this is where we need to be moving now you know alex and also i mean if we can just look at present day politics we see the fragmentation in the weakening and the lack of mission of nato and im not i think this is one of the reasons why theyre changing this narrative because nato needs to have an enemy to justify its own existence and you know and we have poll after poll deeply in germany where the german public wants americans to leave 75 years after the fact they want them to start rebuilding but of course this is a switching major we have the neo cons and entire political bipartisan consensus in Washington Well lets move them to poland which would be in violation of riemanns ending the cold war but again they just want International Law and that is really the basis of the article that a cop about is the foundations of International Law it fell apart it fell apart before the 2nd world war and that is a wave of the footsteps of france and britain ok not the soviet union absolutely can i just point out that this idea of the city union and nazi germany being allergists to start the 2nd will again is a fringe theory in Academic Circles it is a fringe theory some people in the police it or wells are adults it amongst academics it remains a fringe there it. Is expressing what is still very much overwhelmingly the academic consensus but the parallels here is julie also and then very interesting is that after the 1st woman in the lead up to the eventual start of the 2nd world you see a extremely unfair system. Stoutish invests is very interesting and hes attacking the 1st started as far as i know from a Russian Point youve the entire this is when johnny being essentially constantly elite by the allies leading to very very common consequences now hes not saying i think you know that russia has been put in exactly the same way but what hes pointing to is the fragility of a system in which theyre all green is self appointed when it see it as then mission to constantly be telkom lose and at such a system becomes deeply on balance and it becomes increasingly fragile and that way you get things like nate continuing to this you a calling to all this you can say of an ending expansion of focusing all russia as aggressive states which hes not by the way and. Make tensions in europe and in the worlds which really have substantially cools because as correct he points out all the great powers would you come to get us through Security CouncilUnited Nations system it would. Result problems. You know toward one of the things i took away from the article again and i suggest our viewers and i have a read through because its absolutely fascinating is that be the issue of sovereignty and protecting ones own defined National Interests ok in the end and what i find really interesting is that because during the cold war it was it was an ideological conflict with the cold war is over and so you want to bludgeon russia. Like it was the soviet union the soviet union has no ruling idea im sorry russia today has no ruling ideology ok so the parallels dont work anymore and so what putin is saying is that like the soviet union russia of today will defend its National Interest as it defines it its about sovereignty sure. Yes and this is a very important point that the russians and putin and love are often made over and over again which is the United Nations charter in shrines the principle of National Serenity and that there is an equality between all nations no matter how small that they are sovereign and that there is no right on any on anyones part to bully other smaller nations and to tell them what how they should run their own best and so you know yes he indeed hes pointing this out this this kind of western regime change operations that prevailed over the last few decades is a violations of United Nations charter and again it goes back to his point that. You know in 1045 there were sensible leaders who created a you know for want of a better word new world order that respected National Serenity wrote the United Nations charter and created a balance of power system which was the United NationsSecurity Council that took into account the interests of the great powers which and there hence the failure of the league of nations which didnt answer yes thats what hes insisting yeah we need to go back to that and at that time and he wants this out so that the leaders of the western powers always acknowledged a that the sacrifices that the soviet union made will that they did the heavy lifting and that there was no symmetry between what the nazis did and what the u. S. s out it was and you had said its just you never accuse the u. S. S. R. Or be in aggressive rosell never to. And it had nothing to do with ideology if you look at the bound nations of of the United Nations it didnt point out that it didnt focus on ideology it looked at the existence of sovereign states and how they would be as actors on the International State alex let me go back to you and finish up on this point one of the things i think is also interesting about the article is the the rule of law in International Institutions and we get this route this revision is theory that revisionist history thats coming out is it is sidestepping it wants to avoid these or even dissolve these institutions and and that is a political agenda and its a an agenda towards a gemini i would say go ahead now what absolutely does what what the agenda me is that you say that certain western palace were the ones that seem to hand at fulton won the 2nd world war eugen to scotch the soviet union smelt a full which is what mike baird it you say that the soviets and. Possible the same evil a law against the gas so you dandle adze you completely deconstruct the International System as it was creates it all after the 2nd. And you know you cant palla morally vice setting up through this get twisted version of history you morally impel a small number of states to dictate against the rest which is the thats all i mean its. Up there is the end of segment by saying no birth to signaling its come to the history of a 2nd world war right gentlemen im going to jump in here were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion and a real mistake. 54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to heal some air force base in alaska where is that to say come on ill show you whats the reason for any type of enhanced u. S. Military presence in this area russia. What is it suddenly about the South China Sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. Take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have Nuclear Weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so thats why were going to drill down on this story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly its time to do news again. You cant argue with nature and its nature that has to live through this message and so willy nilly in the long term are going to how can we just the way they live and conduct business to take into account this you put it vitally important aspect of our life the need to insist we scope it 90 so i think that some. Changes and i answer to that direction are going to happen i dont foresee interest and species we can survive without change. Well too much across not where all things are considered im peter about for a minute were discussing some real. Ok let me go back to george and go to pesca well john bolton has put himself in the news actually but you very much liked and i really like an article that came kind of with the oh everybody in washington hates john bolton and this up that if i was a republican say hes disgruntled while democrats think hes just trying to sell books and trump calls him a sick puppy or he still laughing all the banco there is a bit of a trap be up there and its questionable right now hes going to be able to earn the harder the profits from this book that why anyone would read is a mystery to me go ahead george. Yes there is a county yet it could be that bolton will be tied up in the courts because the judge suggested. That bolton did in fact review classified information and didnt really go through all the proper vetting procedures of the white house so there are there are grounds for. Ministrations lawsuit against bolton so that so thats a problem or. The conventional wisdom is that oh this wont affect anyone. Voting habits because those who hate trump will vote against those like trump will vote for trump i think i do think that this does damage trump because trump hyun bold no one forced him to do it and when he hired him there were many people you know what the hell is he doing you think youre doing all 3 of us operative. If anyone opposes the agenda that trump ran on in 2016 is john bolton and of course as soon as bolton arrived in the white house he needless other pursuing his agenda regime change war against everyone. You know it israel 1st everything that would extend no peace on the Korean Peninsula you know thats right exactly so this really does raise questions of very serious questions about trumps judgment and that goes extends to all of his appointments he never ever when hes going to have it walks away from him full of hatred for him well of course they were because they full of hate that his agenda hes the one who opposed them he never opposed it you never appointed anyone who would actually believe in his agenda and would try to implement his agenda so he does it is down to trump and his judgment yet you know and thats one of the things i find interesting that the boltons behavior you know urse around in his book and get. Doing it to the public its very much his style of breaking the rules flaunting the laws if when he did it as a Foreign Policy adviser during his long and checkered career hes doing in his own personal life the rules dont apply to me thats what it gets down to you and thats you and thats what you can disarm him so him that way his Foreign Policy is and we do what we want to do and everyone else has the follow International Law because we dont have he is truly an exceptional person out of the is a man without one of the people who doesnt like him is the johnson case made it very clear that he disapproves strongly of mr bolton precisely that race but that does need a consistent perhaps an old sense to react hes an extraordinarily good tool bureaucratic in fights at east sats many will in many places in International Institutions at the head of the International AtomicEnergy Commission the head of the el organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons all sorts of many places of polands fall of john bolton a few. Years ago it was rate on the north Korean Embassy and i think spain portugal and bolton was why they didnt relate to people in that region cultural sea just wasnt only to secure our viewers know that that was when trump was going to meet with king. Just to sabotage that we dont have the evidence but its a very interesting coincidence that i think we would all agree or you know you george which is really interesting is how bolton is playing his cards because now hes the darling of the resistance and it just shows how the the political political thinking is to short circuit short circuited itself because bolton is one of them is one of the most agreed. Neo cons out there and now you have the left in racing him only because hes taking a swipe at the big bad orange man in the white house i mean that it shows an enormous amount of lack of. Intellectual and moral integrity i would say go get. Well because theres a lack of integrity of it but it is ironic that leave liberal democrat media complex is actually now has embraced the bolt on the agenda. They have had though they hatred for putin and russia that bolton espouse us thats right actually the democrats media consensus hatred towards china thats also pretty much the i mean this biden is attacking trump for being too soft on china for cow traveling to china so again bolton is not outside the consensus there. A korea he trumpets been repeatedly attacked for what has been actually a sensible policy and attempt to a secret process known with north korea and the nuclear isolation of the current bill is your trump has been repeatedly attacked by the democrats on that so you know he put the bold agenda is actually the socalled liberal media agenda it is or it is surprising that theres a younger is right you know that. There is there is trump you know couch im going to the dictator. You know its interesting going back to the title and politico alex everyone in washington hates john bolton but everybody in wisconsin except boltons world view him as a really quite amazing it is easy it is extraordinary and he just just sits i mean the breaking point of parent leap between something bold the final straw was the trial didnt start a war was in front the general gratz a supposedly fought ruts rossmore with iran if they mean kids hell get a great. Frat and yes they are supporting john bolton. In this quarrel its very very strange every vote ultimately in the just decision in. Washingtons always seems to be a choice between wall and peace hold all over the piece which is of course well bolton wants you to do it because multan doesnt believe in International Agreements he doesnt believe in helms control even lease the word of the United States should be decisive in every circumstance and he considers that the United States has the rights to enforce its news by full set that has an agenda for wool which everybody in washington ultimately accepts its very strange and frankly very very dangerous you know in georgia i the legacy of bolton is that is what we heard during the impeachment process is injury policy consensus ok that is his ultimate legacy and its really quite interesting if you look at bolton is any hes long been associated with the g. O. P. He was bastards the united youve never confirmed by the senate again you know kind of breaking the rules going around but it whats interesting is that. He has left this behind this interagency policy consensus and it is just a failure from beginning to end and what its done also is to destroy any kind of state crowd in terms of diplomacy there is no need for a secretary of state anymore for example who had. No there isnt there the bolton worldview if which is that there should be no diplomacy no negotiations the United States should just simply issue diktats ultimatum to countries and it should countries fail to meet those ultimatum then the United States has to resort to force that is the bolton view and when you think of the attacks trump from from the socalled liberal media and the rest they are attacks on the things the trump actually is quite sensible about i mean theres plenty of things to criticize trump on that if they attack him book well the things that he does have a sense of look so theres no no real attacks on trump for walking away from the i. N. F. Treaty. Because the know it no attacks trump for assassination of the leader of iran the general sort of money earlier this year. But the very things when he says well i think we should. Improve relations with russia that gets attacked well i think nato is simply a museum piece why why on earth we keep going with this thing that does nothing for us and does not mean the Member States of nato that he gets ferociously attacked on and again. In the case of korea so its the sensible things that trump does that he gets attacked. And the worst of the reckless dangerous forest things you know he just what he took and walked through and hes got to go and you know answer is really i thought it was really pathetic when trump was speaking to the graduating hes dead so whats the point and he was talking about ending endless wars and i thought it was a bit of bits humiliating for him to say that because thats what he was he said he went to there in the last election cycle and its because he is hes ahead on in his Administration People like john boehner. Or Elliott Abrams i mean im a convicted felon. Its been oh its a Human Resources problem and its his own damn fault i would say because if youre saying the same message you know youre a candidate 4 years ago youre the president of the United States right now and youre talking about it we have to end these endless wars well it shows look it shows a lack of leadership or at least leadership style as it would all troubles juice he wants to have it both ways he wants to be the president who has the rules at the same time be the tough strong president who you know ease his redmarley if hes straight some tolerance you cant youve got to make a choice and the trouble with something you always seems to get. Who gave him the agent which is the one he wants to project over the policy that hes committing it soon or says he is committed the result is hes policy has not only not gone anywhere its actually requests weve not had a new wolves but weve seen many of these rules intensive and we trust with syria when he tries to get a star on larry happens in fact they simply meet get region point so he picks the wrong people because he hasnt worked out any say what kind of president he ultimately wants well unfortunately ran out of time gentlemen but as i say one thing it shows strength when you want to be a peacemaker that is with the greatest role that any leader can play is a peacemaker and i unfortunately hes missed that opportunity at least in this term its all the time we have i want to thank my guests in budapest and in london i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time remember. 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