While only purely for a very serious crimes or for other purposes your torah he you and other rapporteurs or find this left and you use the phrase modern day racial terror lynchings we were going through the heads of un special rapporteur on your colleagues as human rights acts worth when you write words like that what do you think the United States is going to do when it hears that your calling the United States of place of modern day racial terror lynching. Well you see were not trying to hunt any headlines here were just trying to reflect in our statements what we see and what we are serving and we are really where are the opinion that the u. S. Authorities how no sense of reality about how loudly yes we do have a Structural Design a grocer you us and wed. You have structural and systemic problems of Police Violence and you do have structural d and systemic insurance and we did find out all really in the period of recession or and i think that referring back to that period is not trying to you know finger point is simply to say these troubles that the origin period and not been properly addressed it was all in the United States where we invited the u. S. Ambassador johnson to london on the program obviously federal Law Enforcement that learned faith in 4th meant well deny what you just said there i mean when you saw the video of george fords murder i dont know maybe even Richard Brooks the bin subsequent videos do they tantamount to torture never learn death murder. Without a doubt clearly what we see in the drawer for a. Amounts to torture you have a person who absolutely defenseless powerless not unmindful and shes absolutely in the power of the custody of your full release and theres no need whatsoever to use the methods they had to use and it was predictable for everyone to see then and everyone watching the video that this person is going to die if the Police Officer doesnt release our travel and still we can see also the facial expression of an officer hes not aware at all of the run fullness of what hes doing and it is a problem well that case continues of course said george lloyds funeral joe biden the president ial contender spoke at a would you be ok with his view that annoying force one should shoot at the leg instead of the heart. Well i think Law Enforcement suited should all if possible because anyone whos father to school knows that you can miss your courage by who. Or in you know a fraction of a 2nd trust or not with a Little Movement of your hand and i think ive done a whole report for the Un General Assembly on police use of force and how it can amount to torture and treatment and over the years very very important that we reduce kind of tendency to want to resolve everything through muslims but i do want to get on to refugees but i have to say President Trump has been keen to emphasize law and order the same principles that you say that you are polled youre welcome as Police Reform is banning chokeholds and thats offered as a threat and a National Registry for officers using Excessive Force and special Mental Health provision and well certainly thats a step in the right direction i do think that you have to go much much further than that because as you say to structural cultural systemic problem has been there for decades law and order starts with. Respecting law and order which means that you hold themselves accountable and live up to the standards that they ask for a population of to follow and thats does not work with unity it does not work with secrecy it does not work with norman come to the work of course when he was signing that executive order this week he almost simultaneously he was signing an executive order blocking u. S. Property and assets of any hague official investigating u. S. Troops what did you make of that surely just an exercise in exercising National Sovereignty on the part of the white house. What you see the United States were was pushing for a nerd trial 75 years old and germans hadnt signed a treaty was expecting themselves to be to just 30 action of the tribunals and the japanese you know was fairly subjected to the resolution of the tokyo trial that is to say that these trials were not legitimate. And they were necessary but the United States are asking you not conducting military operations and bio nations have occur as they do we know every war also known as afghanistan is a country where the i. C. C. Stouter that if the us wants to use force in that that country does subject itself to the Jurisdictional Court and therefore there is no discussion obviously he says he doesnt have jurisdiction and if the us committed there or its soldiers did they are subject to the jews ditch well but theyll often be thing subject to any new decision by the United States as regards the appropriation of assets and property sector or state pompei or cause a Kangaroo Court and of course john bolton the former National Security advisor. Has said that by all means appropriate some people saying that he even suggested the invasion of holland will this mean the end of the i. C. C. Well i think this year or 2 who will walk and that is how we should be looking at that you know the questioning the legitimacy of course has been the last trip to try to a day to come to the early ninetys questions the legitimacy of the number of trials and milosevic the question the legitimacy of the nicety why. Sometimes the same question to the to do as you know after iraq tribunals and so you know thats a standard thats a standard reaction are a state where individuals that color to be held accountable by the court i think you have authority here that means they then nothing and like the nazis whatsoever tell me on u. N. Refugee day what youve been working on as regards torture and refugees youve said that those seeking asylum it can amount to torture the inability of refugees to think asylum because there are tough regulations here in britain for people saying as im. Well obviously that is also a global problem no you know we have a european context of the mediterranean contest libya you have the latin american mexican u. S. Contacts you have the australian these observer contacts but by and large the tendencies are saying that the destination countries are adopting policies of deterrence to try to scare Asylum Seekers away and make them return to that insisting on or right that they have under human rights or to apply for asylum and the methods are used for that panty barrel pushbacks it can be ill treatment can be abused the border corruption but it can also be indefinite out of tree detention of Migration Centers and i think jeff today where so many millions and millions of people are locked in their homes and complained about the lockdown measures which shandy the area are we should remember better. Goods and millions of people out there dont even have a hole that you could lock them into so there is a lot to into these refugee camps and are exposed to cohabit to pilots to corruption and arbitrariness and i think it is really high time that we remember these are our brothers and sisters and we need to protect them. As i mentioned the scale is obviously staggering i should mention julian a founder you meet on the program talked about before what do you make of a president ial contender joe biden calling him a high tech terrorist if youve been defending itek terrorist well if it is symptomatic for a country and not a you know blue process and herschel trial legal proceeding to do to innocent patient at the center its just been discussing all out today that the United States refuses to acknowledge that akram to belittle their own the fishbowls for their own misconduct is the prerequisites of democracy and the rule of law and anyone who exposes misconduct is not a terrorist and they do the sanctions never threatened anyone here has never committed a biannual in strine hes never threatens to commit war and hes exposed by and try and hes exposed and of terror and so i think we should be grateful that we know or at least things and states should be grateful that tony can hole those people to account that have broken the law well as i said its 8 years since he got political asylum in ecuador an embassy in london and ultimately what in your book distinguishes democracy then from authoritarianism. Well if her secretary of state pump ale say that. The United States obviously you know as a democracy because journalists are allowed to question the government directly in a press conference but will line response would be well the distinction between a fair terrorism and the law chris you really does not believe you can question the government but whether the government can actually response to these questions whether it provides transparency what we see in the u. S. Government today keep everything a secret from military operations to even now the hands rescue package of 500000000000. 00 for the companies for coal this crisis and journalists asked for transparency well which Company Received how much money and the government says its confidential and so theyre keeping everything secret now even had President Trump say that everything he says is classified to finally and briefly as a special robert and his global protest during a pandemic continue at all around the world whats your advice to anyone watching who feel that they are being threatened with torture arbitrary detention because theyve been protesting in the wake of the george white matter. The freedom of Association Freedom of expression is an essential human rights people should go out and protest because theres plenty of things to cross that protest about obviously these protests should remain peaceful or should remain nonviolent because being allowed in a protest only gives a cheap excuse to local refuse to respond with violence your own special ramadan thank you. Off in the break as the worlds 2 largest armies come face to face on a disputed himalayan border well ask one of Deng Xiaopings woman translators whether china will protect its interests in the face of a potential. Multiple coming up but youre going on the ground. This is all about bailing out the banks on wall street and why because they are the biggest contributors and owners of the fed this fed is bailing itself out this fed owns all these stocks the fed has all these loans the fed owns all these bonds one of prince money and keep Zombie Companies alive its to keep itself alive is printing money for itself and by the way whos a huge shareholder in all this nightmare Jay Powell Jay Powell was bailing himself out why cant people who are underwater on their mortgages or just been laid off in america simply print money to bail themselves out like jay powell is printing money to bail themselves out thats not right is it. The world is driven by a dream shaped by one person. Who dares thinks. We dare to ask. I know to no crowd. No shots no. Action just felt. It was true no one. Which your thirst for action. Welcome back u. S. President trump and his Team Reportedly made desperate attempts to suppress the publication of the memoir by his former National Security advisor john bolton when leaked revelations from the book that was general for next week suggested trump did not know britain had Nuclear Weapons another alleged trump asked chinese president xi jinping to help him win the members u. S. General election this fall amidst anxious trade negotiations and fighting between the worlds biggest enemies on the india china border joining me now from beijing is a former translator for the architect of modern china Deng Xiaoping way way is director of the China Institute and Fudan University and joins me now thank you so much for joining us before i even get to those geopolitical issues weve had maybe excess deaths of 60000. 00 plus tell me about this reported 2nd spike at the scene for the Seafood Market supplying what 90 percent of beijings fruit and vegetables well d d its case which will be there are serious and. I hope it will d be manageable. And. d look at the. Base its also dropping its only one i dont like me well. Enough experienced i should just ask you about Contact Tracing because we have way more cases than that and we are ending our lock down now you have a complete lockdown. How do you view how do you view how how coronaviruses affected britain where weve had maybe maybe more than 60000 excess deaths to be honest i think u. K. And. And the western countries should learn a bit wrong china and we take this deadly serious with thing its a matter of life and deaths and peoples lives come 1st not business interests so with this in mind we try to trace every case and thats the chinese kirans which include the work very well both within china the country well obviously the news here is less actually about any advice china might have on coronavirus reporting here is europe war with india 20 indian soldiers killed in the himalayan gul one valley by the Peoples Liberation army and what do you know about the clash of this clash of Nuclear Powers erthly from the information i can collect its up to now stew a kind office to fistfight its not. d d gun shooting not killing by guns obviously both sides want to control the damage on the whole its about peaceful solution to this dispute and personally i think maybe had to do with indias domestic reason perhaps i dont know it has to do with the i think and cope with 19 deaths goni are not well because no one has all of sudden all the border skirmishes with china. And yes. I dont know colonel attempt to divert peoples attention for why are there dont think in the try to launch a war effort in italy this particular incident occurred within the chinese line of control says indias troops and indochina well we have to be speaking to the indian a commission thats not a top the defense minister put it he said the nation will never forget their bravery and sacrifice of the dead soldiers. And the Indian Foreign minister and silver star said this was an attempt by the chinese side to unilaterally change the status quo d or what certain about is. Really this particular incident. Has occurred within the untrue of the chinese side eventually perhaps the set right now that were. So obviously this a publication of an indian side so far read the talk by 2 foreign ministers. Both talk about peaceful solution to this dispute this is a good sign well the Chinese ForeignMinistry Spokesman jolly john did say it was a provocation from indias side can you putting your geo political hat on as a keen observer of these things can you see how nature nations might encourage or certainly could be accused of being pleased by a fight between superpowers of the future like india and china india apparently using u. S. Intelligence to claim that 35 pm lay troops were casualties in this clash apparently you know there it is. A city called. Ok if i the United States but from my knowledge india is also very quare ships on this indochina in the pacific. India is no longer choose between china states and d of course china and india who are just a treaty. And i dont think only india think india can fight the war and when you know both sides will reach a peaceful settlement of course the border disputes between the 2 countries have been going on for decades it will not be resolved easily yeah but this is the 1st time for what 50 years that weve seen this many deaths on the border this comes after another Nuclear Nation pakistans Government Allied to china saying that india is provoking the confrontation over kashmir which of course also involves the peoples republic. A child of position our kashmir is very clear. We hope there will be peaceful solution to the disputes which dispute between india china india and pakistan and d d so we have a long vision in the ultimately India Pakistan and china should develop a normal economic although i am your friend i was there. d for about 2 weeks last year where the discussions with me in the sink tanks i think you know the message is very clear its in the interest of both china and india to me relations rather therefore into a trap of this in no. Pacific. I still think mainly its all the best political concerns that india provoke this. Some more limited skirmish this is all useful though for mike pompei o meeting with his with young. In hawaii when he talks about trade with china given this given this narrative of china is isolated let her read the news report briefly its obvious in 2 sides. Really. Hong kong. And change are all side state differences openly candidly girth you know but on the other hand both said try to implement the consensus actually in it cause side to side to have some kind of cooperation in fighting the carbon im taking and not a natural trait the big story of the nationally arguably has been a book by Donald Trumps former National Security advisor john boehner. I mean theres been many reports that hes donald trump is fighting his own military Industrial Complex what do you make of these supposed revelations denied by trump that he asked for xi jinping as help in winning the members u. S. Election read interesting passage about this conversation. She. Apparently should. d beings which is what also i have been seeing reaction from. Here you mentioned the fight their own in 1000 the pentagon officials quoted in u. S. Media warning of chinese Economic Warfare exploiting coronavirus exploiting supplies of bio warfare Protection Equipment here in britain the British Government is talking about china somehow having to pay for coronavirus there in recent weeks. All walk a do. In china was not. Active in International Politics or less active it would say china was my. When china big thing slightly more at here it became a chinese you know assertion more certain so we just do whatever we think its necessary at this moral. Consensus except the United States we should have. Really International Community acting in a unified the way the. Enemy cob in 98 and china its best to help us here in britain again that the foreign minister here dominic grab Boris Johnsons words minister attacking h. S. B. C. For backing the Hong Kong Government the only thing that perhaps can take the George Floyd Protests of the news here is the rioting in hong kong what do you make of britain trying to offer passports to chinese citizens in hong kong. No this is a very silly decision i dont think that ask for well be very attractive to many. In the 1st place its essentially a travel document not a work permit i remember when those helping went to United States or 1st train. With jimmy carter and us president the us president and us. Immigration those are being asked how many millions of people you want. Well i mean the massive the here chinas ambassador here was pretty forthright. Do you think this is this is dominic grab doing us dirty work because the ambassador here said to the British Government dont do this dirty work dirty job for someone else when britain sent the royal navy sent its h. M. S. Elizabeth their craft carrier to the Spratly Islands the british should remember should know by this year a. Nation of. Over. History has already turned a corner so when china decided to push forward with this issue of National Security law its a done deal when ho whereas a guy states are pretty tried to intervene or not no way of course every experience almost a year when your chaos and economy suffered badly almost destroyed so now are biscoe and of chaos for long chaos many people came to their senses you mention colonialism in fairness to britain statues of slave traders are coming down do you think the chinese would like statues in britain of people who peddle drugs to china killing so many Chinese People when britain was a while. One of the big drug dealing nations of the world would want those statues lose peddlers to come down. Oh indeed in the 1st place this kind of demonstrations this black lives of mad tom warm and you really even use the kind of the group but he was. 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