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Of course the words reverberate starkly today because of the use of the word gas chamber in the state of california. Still has a gas chamber which is ok its that quick prison the site of many demonstrations over the last few years precisely because of the fact that prisons and and courage. The spread of covert 19 to oakland where your speaking to me from known quite pretty as a progressive place around the world spends an enormous proportion of its budget on police and Police Activities what do you think baldwin may meant when he said he could gauge a Nations Health we can all by examining those people that elected to represent are protected what is the health of your nation right now i think the world is able to see that this nation is far from healthy that our Police Departments are the most dramatic expression of Structural Racism that our prisons are full of black people and latinos that. That we have to have an abolitionist imagination if we want to guarantee a future for our city im standing nation and for the world what does that mean for ill get on to abolitionists as regards the Prison Industrial Complex and the police but obviously the f. B. I. Targeted you set in media circles people know about watergate do you think itll take a lot longer to know about cointelpro well increasing numbers of people are aware. The extent to which the government attempt it to wipe out all of those who were resisting those who actually represented the possible future of democracy in this country it usually takes a very. Long time for radical change to begin to be made but then on the other hand there are moments such as the current conjunct show were bringing together. A range of struggles a range or issues and allow those of us who have been active in struggles against racism and patriarchy and economic oppression over the years to recognize that the work we do does ultimately make a difference even though it may be 10 years 20 years 30 years 40 years 50 years before we are able to witness the fruits of that activists labor. Some might not know a cointelpro is from people watching this interview from around the world how did it just remind us how the f. B. I. Persecuted you i know in the news right now we hear about trump being persecuted by the f. B. I. Well of course i was placed on the f. B. I. s 10 most wanted list and 170 and it was in the context of a development of a program called Counter Intelligence program cointelpro specifically targeted black activists not only myself but many members of the black Panther Party i was active in the black Panther Party but i was also a member of the communist party. And. Of course the black Panther Party was. Targeted and particular and was said to be the most dangerous threat to the nation by j. Edgar hoover who at that time was that head of the yeah actually also quite out that a soft tissue cooler. Who is still alive and who lives in cuba now was a few years ago designated as one of the 10 most dangerous terrorists and the world and so the f. B. I. Continues to use its force to single out and to. Challenge those who are trying to bring about radical change in this country i think that could have been during the Obama Administration he was designated as yes it was during the Obama Administration absolutely well well get to his Vice President joe biden in a 2nd but you talk there about communism you have used the phrase racial capitalism has the role of a revenue. Changed since back in 72 when you said that it means wanting to change society to broader world where needs and interests are responded to well i think use the term racial capitalism which show comes from. Political scientists and. Black studies scholar centric robinson who pointed out that capitalism has always been infused with racism crowd the outset of the present so that we should not. Think about racism as cap and capitalism as discrete entities they are both and to connect it with each other but i think that this is really a Pivotal Moment not only in the history of the us but also in global history that we collectively witnessed the lynching of joy which floyd at a time when the world was shocked it in place so tempting to avoid being infected by 19 and of course the struggle against lynching and against racism violence has an extremely long history that dates back to the immediate aftermath of slavery so i would say that this moment has been a Long Time Coming i dont think that anyone expected that it would develop quite in the way that it did but the particular confluence of revealing the Structural Racism that many black that next immunity is more vulnerable to convert 19 combined not only lets see horrendous murder of george floyd but also m r r grim reality taylor and tony. Date but i think what is so important today is that people are focusing on structural issues theyre not simply calling upon the individual cops to be brought to justice. This current for demilitarization of the police and defunding of the police and to dismantle the police well it certainly does it certainly does seem pivotal when there wasnt long ago Ruth Bader Ginsburg a Supreme Court justice was saying sports star Colin Kaepernick was dumb and disrespectful to take a knee now we have the d. N. C. Doing it what did it make you feel when you saw nancy pelosi and the others wearing gun a in traditional kente cloth worn famously by a qualm in a groom a before he was overthrown by the cia. Ok its kind of a bizarre image of course but but when i am lies that what i see is the act. Of mass movements of the protestors the salad our tea that was intended by. The solidarity that was. Millions of people in the street but of course they have to do a great deal more than take a knee like cold cavern it did a great deal more than we can take lots or. We will see what happens over the coming period. Scotland has voted to stop the selling of tear gas rubber coated steel bullets and riot shields to the United States the words of the country is to stop selling riot control gear to the United States after what weve seen on our t. V. Screens of the protests. Oh absolutely and and i think its important to point out in this context it was back in 2814 in the context of the ferguson uprising. The militarization of the police was revealed and the fact that the tear gas that was being used those occupy palestine was the same tear gas that was being used and ferguson weve learned that many Police Departments including some are on ones like the Ferguson Police department have received Anti Insurgency training by the Israeli Military and also i heard the Minneapolis Police oversee a training from israel im not sure about the particular offices have been accused of the murder of george floyd but i think we need to remember that there is still an important connection between struggles in the u. S. And struggles and palestine this connection was made and the 960 s. It was made again in 24 and it needs to be emphasized today what is it about palestine that is so important the European Union is against boycott divestment sanctions over here in britain the labor party its foreign China Foreign secretary says its and he semitic to condemn atrocities by the Israeli Government was palestine relevant to what were seeing about george floyd well how this time has taught us a great deal about resistance about. The insurance resistance and weve learned a great deal about the president just real complex by looking at palestine and looking at all of the ways and wish palestine and is experiencing the cursor all technologies developed by the state of israel for a very long. Time there have been leaks of solidarity between how stand here and underground and black people were struggling over us what i myself was in jail i received numerous solidarity messages from palestinian Political Prisoners i think that. The time has come to reveal the absolute absurdity of assuming that the criticism of the policies and practices of a nation state such as israel are equivalent to anti semitism as a matter of fact many jewish people in israel are involved and the struggle for solidarity with with palestine and certainly b. B. s is simply a Boycott Movement that sanctions it is a Nonviolent Movement the way in which it is falsely represented by so many. Forces in the world is something that we have to add on lies and dispute well we invite the israeli ambassador to london on the program to refute some of what your saying i think the Israeli Government does admit to demolishing homes profesor angela davis ill stop you there more from the legendary black panther activist after this break. We are witnessing the rise of a new secular religion and its called the pope is a moment in a short history its goal is to end racism by well everything is now considered racist the believers in this cult the middle between its results but this isnt over really never told. Racism has to be eradicated so how it helps serve the interests of the people oh. Its seemed wrong. To me to. Get to shape out these days to come out ahead and engagement equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart. Just to look for common ground. 6. In seoul you cant get away from advertisement in you to change your appearance. Many local people see Plastic Surgery as a prerequisite for a successful career employers are often most interested in a job seekers appearance as a graduation present parents often give doctors Plastic Surgery for an extra fold in the eyelids to make their eyes look think i. Almost every career teenager dreams of looking just. Needles. Welcome back im still here with one of the most influential activists of the last century professor angela davis local Police Forces state Police Forces can surely say nothing like the action they are taking against the george floyd protesters is like what happened against move in 1905 in philadelphia when children were killed aerial bombardment of homes and so forth do you think things are better today well i think things are better in the sense that we know better that were able to add a lot more effectively understand the meaning of the kind of policing to wish people in this country have been subjected for a very long time. To remember that. The legacy of slavery is a part of that francaise policing. The site which rolls during slavery only after bad. Emergence of racist lars and the use of Law Enforcement to guarantee the un folding of horrendous lengths shipmans i think things are better today because we recognize the institutional character of this race is and were not simply saying that individuals who commit these horrendous acts are responsible were pointing to the systems we are pointing to the structures and this insistence on understanding Structural Racism institutional racism state racism is is relatively new and this is what has made this particular historical moment so exciting and yet with this gain in consciousness the increase in budgets for Police Forces seem staggering the new york Police Department as a 6000000000 dollar budget thats bigger than vietnams Defense Budget vietnam of course which defeated the United States of america what is behind these Massive Police budget. Well of course the emphasis on police the emphasis on policing the emphasis our prison meant that has led to mass incarceration is very much driven by racism. And law and order instead of addressing the needs of communities of color and let me say that we are in the process of doing to date what should have been done and the i media aftermath of slavery. Of this these processes of guaranteeing that previously enslaved people and degeneracy people subject to the genocidal empacher colonization lept team next communities. That that there should have been efforts long ago to consider what kind of changes our society would be required it order to guarantee equality and justice for all as the civic racial and economic and gender justice and equality you mention as incarceration some probably not in the corridors of d. N. C. Power think joe biden may be synonymous with mass incarceration what would you say to someone thinking of voting for joe biden in november well. Im not really happy about joe biden so i think that in the long run we need to break out of the 2 party system both of which a very much tied to corporate capitalism. But of course that is for the long run we have less than 5 months before the upcoming election. I dont see this election being about choosing a candidate who will be who will be able to lead us in the right direction it will be about choosing a candidate who can be most affected flee pressure to allow a more space for the evolving mt races movement i did is very problematic in many ways he has not only in terms of his past and the role that he played and pushing toward mass incarceration of both hes indicated that he is opposed to this disbanding the police and this is definitely what we need we need to re conceptualize the very notion of Public Safety but i say but. But its far more likely to take a mass. Seriously far more likely than the current occupant of the white house so that this coming november the election well as us not so much to vote for are the best candidate but to vote for or against ourselves and to vote for ourselves i think means that we will have to campaign for vote for byatt you know think the George Floyd Protests will create a new Political Party to vote for in time for november then i dont think personally you know who knows what is possible but building a party takes a great deal of time and we meant talking about new parties and new parties have emerged. But to build the kind of party with. Hero to mass is a people for a structure that would be capable of getting out the vote in time to oust donald trump is another issue you mention defunding the police because youre an advocate of prison abolition i mean what is it like living in a country which imprisons proportionally more than stalin or mao ever did well you know of course im someone who has been involved in. Working against imprisonment sense since the 1970 s. I i became involved in the struggle in and. In movements against movements for the freedom of Political Prisoners like lolita liberal like bobby seale from the black Panther Party. And many of us have been current for the abolition of prisons for decades as a matter of fact my introduction to the concept of evolution came with abacha uprising in 1981 when i myself was in and jailed the racism that has been recognized as driving the very structure of policing and this country is equally embedded in the prison system and is responsible for what we have come to call mass incarceration so. Just as the call for the abolition of policing and its current form is now being raised. It reflects it reflects decades old calls for the abolition of prisons. And of course we call for prison abolition because prisons are simply a dumping ground for people who represent the failure of society to trust problems of poverty and physical and Mental Health and education etc why isnt it why is it been so difficult would you mala still in prison Leonard Peltier a why these names a decade after decade why is concerted action failed to free so called Political Prisoners in the United States oh it gives you a sense of the power of this institution. Power of the police the power of Police Unions as a matter of fact more me i was remark linnet penalty here continue to languish in prison piece precisely because they have been so systematically opposed by Police Formations in this country so im hoping that as this as the Police Unions are coming under an enormous amount of criticism this may also create an opening for us to demand the release of leonard and. Well people around the world know of your name arguably in the global south and so on we now learn that here in britain the british say to cure the service is a using a picture of you. Perhaps to entice certainly to promote their own campaign called stooge on instagram and facebook to encourage some kind of work debate what do you think about how youve been coopted now in this latest british intervention by the Security Forces here. Well it doesnt surprise me. And i think this is a court had to be aware that all kinds of strategies are being employed will be employed to try to over ass the global way of resistance and im i just hope that people recognize these are Desperate Measures Justice Policy is of the government and the u. K. And the u. S. Desperately try to preserve a past races of empty labor practices of misallocated that arent mental and justices but i think that young people who are protesting today represent a different future and the only thing i can say is may they prevail well just finally then statures fall all around the world to imperialist often the placards read by any means necessary malcolm x. Is famous quote what do you think that phrase means 55 years after malcolm x. s assassination. Well of course some at the time when malcolm x. Said by any means necessary he was caning our absolute determination to overturn racism in inequalities and all forms of injustice i think that we can continue to say by any means necessary the fact that so many people were out in the streets and the minutes 8. 19 pandemic was indication of the deep how should and the collective will for change. And. You know i think that people are becoming aware of the extent to which the past is still driving the present and that what we are doing now is long overdue opera opposition to race is Police Violence is about finally facing the sentries all. Legacies of racism he ages any day ages though of cooption where the black lives matter will be coopted the funeral for floyd had joe biden in it and the famous dichotomy house the group was his field negro is that still alive today the. Cause there are always efforts to call out our struggles. And a sense we can say that when we efforts we should be our successes. That those however are desperately trying to identify with those who are struggling so that of course so that they can change the trajectory of those struggles but i think that many people understand that now and i actually welcome these expressions by people in power because we realize that we are beginning to challenge that head in my powers. Of those and government if we do this we can collectively resist the dominance of the past and we can begin to move toward a more master tory future professor angela davis thank you thats it for the show back on wednesday the 5 Year Anniversary of the charleston judge shooting when a white supremacist gunman killed 9 black people during a bible study in South Carolina until then he becomes president media join me on the ground on Twitter Facebook and surround sound cloud and you chief. We go to work so you straight home for. Some control for a middle class time overnight muslim are very hardworking people who want to get ahead that have either have some some Health Issues or have some of the others trick about luck the whole time jule moon to always pay for a place to live and missing just a months rent can get you a victim to gunpoint if anything bad happens to any thing that just throws your budget off slightly. You better catch up real quick or youre going to have a judgment of possession against you and get addicted anyone thats homeless is history like garbage people look at you like a monster or someone bad or you chose to be there most of the time its not the case see how it is to be pole in the worlds richest country. Well coming up to us from around the world fly from Central London this is our t u k. The u. K. Prime minister holds top level coast preps it talks with the e. U. Commission president sought to post fines except there will be no extension beyond the end of the year. Nonessential shops in england i opened their doors for the 1st time since looked down began on march the 23rd thats experts from countries which have successfully eradicated the virus and suggest the u. K. Should be knocking down not easy respect shins the question i wonder about is why you want. Considering theres an approach because you didnt get to see. The government is that is to fast track the publication of a study into how to protect minority communities from cupid 19 after an earlier report failed to provide any recommendations all the talking to a medical expert. And report finds 25000 patients were discharged into care homes without being tested during the peak of the u. K. s corona virus infections. Prime minister Boris Johnson has met Even Commission president still a fondling on after the u. K. Insisted there will be no extension to the brics a transition period it leaves just over 6 months for the signs to break the current impasse or risk parting with no deal in place while to talk us through the latest developments is off you case. Either recess so whats been going on. Well our sons and has been holding that Video Conference call with the European Commission president. And now thus far who already had 4 rounds of talks between the u. K. And the you but it would appear that negotiators havent got anywhere and so theres a need for the principals to get involved the higher ups if you will to hope that they can get over some of the disagreements and there are a number of Sticking Points between the 2 sides now 1st Sticking Point is that the 2 sides very far apart in how they view the deal Going Forward one side the e. U. Wants an all encompassing comprehensive deal where is the u. K. Would prefer deals in different sexes in different areas to make some kind of piecemeal through all of the agreement theres also differences with regards to things like regulations a socalled level Playing Field the e. U. Doesnt want the u. K. To be able to slash regulations that would give their companies a heads a head start over european ones fishing rights of course this was a hot button topic in the run up to that referendum many of british fishermen saying that this was a question of sovereignty the e. U. Continued to demand continued access to british waters but the u. K. Want some type of social agreement that can be periodic reviewed and also of course the arash border perhaps one of the biggest issues before the u. K. Left at the end of january with regards to what to do with that border and it is here michael gove said border checks would be inevitable for almost everybody who imports into the u. K. But more recently the government say that they would tap struck plans for full court a check so the 2 sides still far apart as i mentioned when it. Comes to those key issues but theyll be hoping that these talks that can take things forward of course perhaps progress has been stymied somewhat by the fact that weve had or sides dealing with the corona virus crisis and as a result of that of course politicians negotiators cant meet face to face talks have been taking place via Video Conference in court and have that has not helped things move forward however there is a need for things to speed up because as we know at the end of december the u. K. Will be leaving this transition period and will finally have to fully left the European Union and if a deal isnt in place then the u. K. Will go to trading on the World Trade Organization rules with the European Union but both sides say that theyve agreed to an intensified timetable because one of the results of that Conference Call between mr vandelay and and or something today has been that they wont be seeking an extension to that timetable to that extension period at the end of december so at end of this month there will be 5 weeks of talks beginning and again both sides will be hoping that some type of progress has been made so for the u. K. Crashing out without a deal the time is that the essence is Something Like 26 weeks ago Something Like that not long he said thank you very much indeed all the more reaction to the ongoing talks ill be joined in the next hour by brets expert Professor John ryan. Nonessential shops in england have opened their doors to the public for the 1st time since the lockdown was announced on march the 23rd all retail shops including Department Stores and clothing retailers are now admitted to open up provided so short distancing measures for a day or 2 the number of people allowed inside a shop at any one time has been limited and protective coverings may be placed over certain items with her as the u. K. Government says substance that the socalled 5 tests to ease the lock down have now been met. When it comes amid suggestions the u. K. Should adopt a more intense approach like countries in asia where they have eradicated the virus last week the Prime Minister of new zealand just endure arden announced that new zealand had no new cases for over 2 weeks every day meola just professor Michael Baker told r. T. U. K. That britain should be ramping up lock down not using it. This approach instead of aggression increase security wants is the end it gets more intense you throw everything at it and start to try and extinguish the transmission entirely and thats what z. M. Did so it will be from no not all into a very intense lockdown in just a few days and we use that time for weeks and then another 2 weeks with a slightly listen mark the answer about 6 to soon weeks look down. We use it time and basically said it was extinguished most chains of transmission go this time to really build up artistic and Contact Tracing and also we started to use much wanted controls at the border with everyone quire importing dont quarantine i think its no accident that the countries that were most proactive in responding to this in dimock experience with us and i think of the model that has probably been the most of it was taiwan that basically had a well established c. D. C. Since its control they were to observe this virus and take measures at the borders in january and they did everything right and theyve hit the early few cases very few dissin the whole country and they contained it with their own media lockdown the question i wonder about is why i do not consider him an elimination approach because you have all the tools in place you basically are menace you who are those you are doing to see in context tracing and isolation of of context and you have experience with a lock down but if you just put all of that together it seems to me you know position we could potentially make this virus. A group of families in the u. K. Who have lost relatives to covert 19 are demanding an urgent Public Inquiry into the governments response to the pandemic the families are calling for a review into the life and death steps that need to be taken in order to stop the spread of the virus they also want to guarantee from the u. K. Government that all documents relating to the covert 19 response will be kept on record. Well the Prime Minister is also facing calls to edit the publisher report with recommendations on how to protect ethnic minority communities from coronavirus. It follows the recent publication of a Public Health England Review which exposed the black asian and other ethnic minority people are dying as a greater rate from the virus the government document was heavily criticized for its failure to include pages containing recommendations about how to protect ethnic minorities downing street has since confirmed a 2nd report including evidence from 4000. 00 ethnic minority individuals and organizations is due to be published this week it reportedly includes safeguarding measures including improving Data Collection about ethnicity and religion Compulsory Health risk assessments for frontline workers and tackling racism in the Health Service but a scientist who was asked to peer review the unpublished recommendations says withholding information from parliament undermines the review. If you consult the public you must publish the results otherwise youve wasted their time youve wasted your own time youve wasted taxpayers money and youve lost the trust of Public Health england has defended its exclusion of Counter Measures in its initial review saying these were supposed to be separate the government commissioned Public Health england to conduct an epidemiological review to analyze how different factors can impact on Peoples Health outcomes from coal that 19 in parallel professor kevin fenton on Public Health englands behalf in gauged what has significant number of individuals and organizations within that the a. M. E. Community to hear their views concerns and ideas about the impact of covert 19 on their communities this important to engage in that work will inform the work the qualities minister is now taking forward we intend to both formally submit this work to the minister next week and well publish it at the same time. Want to discuss sorry for joining me now is the secretary of the British Association of physicians of Indian Origin thats professor parekh single professor single thank you for joining us Public Health england says recommendations for how to safeguard ethnic communities are on the way but these reviews take time that they they do and be relayed the full report to be released as soon as possible and be vocal Prime Ministers announcement and commitment to address this is them but if the government hadnt published the 1st report it would have been accused of covering things up wouldnt it yes and of because the 1st report didnt add anything to already we know and what was needed in that report was was it in short that any feelings and what are the recommendations and how to protect the star so you know clearly its a big issue s. What is being population is concerned that says thats not true your being but on sore or emission and what were the results we need to understand so that measures can be put in place and also in the meantime though what were waiting for the recommendations to come through there are more delays as well how do you delay is like that affect the situation. It doesnt add to the confidence it destroys credibility and loses confidence off the stall and. The government authorities because if you talk about risen which is being. Taken as a one of the reasons for its debts we all acknowledge that there is Structural Racism that in the end it shifts that are left off opportunities for being starved disproportionate jethros of blame doctors who g. M. C. Winning in not listening to beam style but coming to a specific could lead to what we know which obviously is quite distant is there have been excess deaths as you have just sent but there is no evidence that the beam staff were not for it be in a setting right doctors request that thats not the point but the point has been that ben lets go scheme do not do it and then from bet youre forced to drop Public Health intervention and if youre single in a segment of highlighting the concerns about b. M. Debts and its just an event took a long time to respond and even after it just responds to the trusts not of trust some trust a very direct but not of trust speeds to entering to discussions of the front main stop asking the board it concerns and assisting that wrists and mitigating those risks no premier of court and interesting meant to respond in timely manner or do they want doctors to see patients in timely manner and fairly out of trust to engage through different planes will never been strong theres reason bush and a lot of people see that as being the risk. And those are the questions which need to be honest and answers need to be put down to the cant the counterargue it will be that corona virus is still relative in us and it takes time to understand and also to learn from its mistakes. Completely agree this is a new tame new phenomena now and all the more reason for us to have at it when it 1st came to notice and just use of a commonsense approach what some extreme measures and plays a little bit star struck the be taking them out of frontline u. T. S. For the time being to the picture becomes clearer and as soon as the population is concerned it comes in the larger umbrella of open credit and i think good to be able to do for us to prepare better for the 2nd we we need to address those issues and Public Health england need to start programs to move would address Health Inequalities and reach out to those deprived communities and the criticism has also been that the 2nd reports recommendations also appear to be vague general challenges like you say tackling racism and reporting on cases would you like to see more specific advice i think thats a very very good question and because we have dr morris ism you know what bodies and plays but actually nothing meaningful happens and the ground live and this is were some specifications need to do it needs and i had to trust you really the grass would be real some measures need to be put in these so that we can see that is the words and very short span of time where do you think a change and a positive direction for ethnic communities moving forward once the recommendations are released im confident that this does give us an opportunity to move things forward and i think stein is right for us to address these issues now if the dog addressed them now we will never be able to act as a professor parrot single thank you very much indeed for joining us and. I am still to come this hour. The Prime Minister announces a cross Governmental Commission to look at racial inequality in society as a response to black lives matter protests. And a report reveals around 25000 hospital patients were not tested for coronavirus before being discharged into care homes and. You cannot be both with the yeah you like. The one almost show small seemed wrong on one old roll just dont hold. Any new world belief yet to shape out this day and become educated and in gains from it because betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart when you choose to look for common ground. Were seeing the rise of a new secular religion and its called a quokka is them at the moment in a short history its goal is to end racism by well everything is now considered racist the believers in this cult demand obedience result criticism the really never told how racism is to be eradicated or how it helps serve the interests of working people of colors. Welcome back the u. K. Prime minister has announced plans for across Governmental Commission to look at racial equality in society as a response to the backlash not to protest what i really want to do as Prime Minister is change the narrative so we stop the sense of victimization and discrimination we stamp out racism and we start to have a real expectation of success but Boris Johnson has failed also face criticism for saying he wanted to end the sense of victimization which some have described as condescending it comes as Police Chiefs will also review their forces use of tasers after claims people from black and other ethnic minority backgrounds are being disproportionately targeted. The calls come after a spate of incidents including the tasering of the musicians at 62 year old father last week in his london home video led to widespread outrage while officers insisted they acted appropriately mess the car has called for an investigation. Thanks as well according to Home Office Figures black people are 8 times more likely to have a taser pulled on them than any other ethnic group the use of the stun guns across the board has gone up over 30 percent since last year while the 35000. 00 of nearly 130000. 00 officers which is more than one in 4 are currently armed with tasers or the police for a federation has said that tasers are essential for deescalating situations and protecting their offices they insist that use remains very small in comparison to the number of incidents offices respond to. Now report has revealed signs of u. K. Hospital patients were discharged into care homes without being tested for coronavirus during the peak of infections. The National Audit office has confirmed that between march the 17th and a full the 15th around 25000 patients were discharged from hospitals into care homes hospitals were advised to move all medically fit patients without symptoms and not all of them were tested for covert 19 before being discharged the policy was implemented to increase capacity and free up beds for acute Health Care Needs and it was changed on april 15th while the one in 3 care homes subsequently declared an outbreak with at the peak over a 1000 homes dealing with positive cases where care homes account for around half of all coronavirus related deaths in england in response to the report the department of health and social care spokesperson defended the governments actions. We have been working tirelessly with the care sector throughout to reduce transmission save lives and as a result 60 percent of care homes have had no break a toll according to the latest public help england statistics. And finally with no end in sight to social distancing regulations the list of Music Festival cancellations continues to grow out u. K. Smarting under takes a look at an industry on the brink of collapse. From this. Case as some a kicks off so would normally the festival season and while groups of 6 might be allowed to be south side it might be a while until 6000. 00 are allowed together the association of independent festivals represents 65. 00 festivals in the u. K. Bay reports but over 90 percent of its members face complete ruin as a result of counseled events meeting 2020 is a total wipeout for thousands who work in the industry im done last summer of festivals is a wipe reaching impact across the live music center. Thats right at all and confessed we were canceled this year and we havent happened yet so i dont know if they will be and happening next year or not i mean because tools like glastonbury rewind they will be cancelled as well so it was in the same boat i think recent stats from company use it make a say that almost 5000000 people attended a Music Festival in 2018 but 2020 has almost completely obliterated those figures and because the majority arent covered by insurance because salaciousness related to cave at 19 festival organizers worry but the future is rather bleak. And there may well be a bit of a crowd. In this because as i say there are some of us out of the tribes trusted to run that way and i would say its going to be quite difficult for them to survive this i am i think there will be a complete change in the market. But for some employed with equal opportunity of a child to grace social change and Technology Finding new ways how to share their craft and. Well i think were going to have to chinatowns more. Digital music you know producing your own music trying to get it out there to people people still need music. And this is just not going to be out to sea no performance is yes i think people have got more time on their computers and phones to be looking at new artists and mark my music. And. Videos on there just trying to keep and you know your fans interested from glastonbury to the real Wine Festival hundreds of Outdoor Events have been canceled this year with potential refunds of up to 800000000 pounds the average cost for each major festival for starting advertising and marketing is estimated to be around 375000. 00 pounds of which most wont see ever again. As most event staff and performers have been ineligible for the government fellow schemes and companies have not been able to receive any money from the Coronavirus Business interruption loan scheme its estimated that in the next my money sector will lose around 60 percent of its workforce and those who manage to stay change the life industry. Makes a miracle cures a good effects i dont see any way out of it for musicians i think it could be years and i think when it does come back its going to come back so different there are only oldsters like us the ones that have been doing it for a long time were probably going to get kicked out and itll be for the youngsters to make a new business thats my suspicion. With an entire income and trade wiped out its be at that many festivals the Financial Resources to ever take place again some fans have started crowdfunding campaigns to help that organizes but its a drop in the ocean for most large scale events some are hoping to transfer tickets over to 2021 that provide some security for the next year it doesnt help the cash flow now and as the world learns to live with the new rules despite might be a while for those wellies put to good. Use. Of about with more news at the top of the hour. Some can fall from middle class to homeless overnight most some are very hardworking people who want to get ahead that either have some some Health Issues or have some of it out of trick about luck a full time job wont always pay for a place to live and missing just a months rent can get she will victim to gunpoint if anything bad happens to any thing that just throws your budget off slightly. 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As the review can seniors and we found out more i was surprised about the extent and of the currents which the pollution was involved in some of those cases that killers would later be named into the now were getting i think it. Went to the very very top i think it the phone. The water where politicians you thought was going on and give the go ahead. Hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered on Peter Lavelle we are witnessing the rise of a new secular religion and its called the focus them at the moment in that short history its goal is to end racism why well everything is now considered racist the believers in this cult demand obedience insult criticism but were really never told how racism is to be eradicated or how it helps serve the interests of working people of all colors. To discuss this and more im joined by my guest john de bar in bristol she is the deputy leader of the Workers Party of britain as well as author of the drive to war against russia and china her forthcoming book is identity politics and class and in budapest we have George Samuel he is author of bombs for peace natos humanitarian war on yugoslavia right across our girls in effect that music can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it ok lets go to bristol jody what do you do you make of this new secular religion because that its kind of quasi christian you know a little bit of composers a little bit a bit eventually mentalists style. And you know it has on with this ritual walls it has its humes it has its clergy it has its script sure. And its making everybody miserable and it has nothing to do with fighting racism go ahead. Well i think its the last point that i am really interested in its do we want to fight racism and of course the answer to most of us is yes but to fight racism you have to understand where does racism come from whats the cause of racism these symbols of an exploiting society do of course represent the fact that it is an exploitative society what that reminds us is this society is not our society its run it is made up of run by and for a tiny exploiting class and of course they heroes are the ones who are celebrated in the culture that they call ours which is really their heads and of course for the mass of the workers and exploited around the world these people are not heroes ok but its a reminder of a material reality that we live in a world of exploiters and exploited and that is what is the cause of racism racism comes from the need to divide workers against one another it comes from the need of the imperialists in particular to justify their walls and their colonial conquests on the basis that these people cant take care of business theyre not grow not theyre not i mean the you know the the the way that it was and colonial exploits have been justified have subtly to