Can president of the National Union of students and cofounder of students not suspect me about here joins me now by skype from laden in the netherlands thank you so much for coming on malea so as i said here stamina and Boris Johnson the Prime Minister condemning those who brought down that monument celebrating a slave trader in bristol what did you make of it i think so you. Choose to use air time at a time when the government has effectively waged war continues to wait for brown and black bodies through its cut to the National Health service through systematic rejection oppression exploitation of communities of color have led to the astronomical debt that we have seen amongst those communities and event forced the. Choir on it and start instead of using this time to read mobilize from below to ensure that this government never gets reelected again in order to. To continue bolstering and strengthening the very policies that continue to kill black people and to dehumanize them he uses it to condemn an action that is largely symbolic but important in light of the total annihilation peoples ability to dissent peoples ability to organize and a time which lets face it the most exploited and oppressed among. Disproportionately black communities are being blamed for the spike in infections amidst the kobe pandemic so i think its deplorable that he has used this puppet for that in fairness against drama now leading western europes apparently largest socialist movement to because it was brought to that level by his predecessor Jeremy Corbyn in fairness to star it is difficult for him arguably because he refused to prosecute the metropolitan police killers a joint child the ministers the brazilian citizen of color who is a gunned down in south london joining given that the labor party is realistically has historically been the only space in which people have seen. Remote the radical anti racist campaign there is a legacy there the likes of star mark spector to are now obviously the actions of the labor party in recent history. The war in iraq to the introduction of the prevent strategy to their continued witch hunt that members of parliament particular black women havent exactly demonstrated the legacy that they profess and the people require a radical. And an apologetic uncompromising antiracist starts and that includes the courting the people whether they wish to topple a statue or whether theyd they demand the total dismantling. The systems across our society institutions. In the name of antiracism and cologne it is a surprise that many in elites bishops politicians journalists or say that statues a good for education statues are good only in the sense of providing us with an insight into the bloody and. Bloody history of the United Kingdom particularly liked particularly in reference to the likes of colston. But i think that in me it added to our focus should not be limited to the statues themselves this is about a deeper problem across our society and the refusal for the British Government to tell the truth to intervene in the ways that are necessary into the curriculum into the. Methods of assessment into the attention and retention of students of color their abilities to succeed but then academic spaces their abilities to. To hold have access to the same platforms that their white counterparts particularly privileged upper middle class white counterparts have had throughout history one does not need to come from an educated background in order to know that racism is wrong and that it should be stopped by any means necessary do you think its a sign of how important they know education is that we now have revelations of g c h q workshops for people as young as 9 years old 9 to 12 years old the cyber 1st a system of teaching children about cyber activities we now have revelations about counterterror programs like prevent using facebook and instagram do those in power know exactly how powerful education is when it comes to forming the minds of the population absolutely i think that we shouldnt underestimate. It that the government is aware of the power that lies in education and access to it we have seen over a decade. Of. The continued privatization mark across education as a whole so we know but further than that i think that often dissent and political mobilizations come from those with an education whether you look at teachers students parents of students communities come together it is a crucial space in which people learn about the problems with the message citee but more than that understand and develop the solutions to it is about deep our ties a. Political integrity the value of human life. The global south in countries like yemen and the lack of accountability and responsibility that they feel from below from the people that they were all that they can get away with making such deals with allowing such immoral and affectively and to shuman. Policies and practices to take place within our Education System i think that the the government clearly sees education to be one of the battlegrounds during my role as an us president that was very clear. Our mobilizations our organizations are protests. You know constantly attacked by those at the very top and if you look at the attempted interventions through the prevent strategy which are all about policing which are all about camping down on on dissent on on demobilization mobilizing alongside lets say there is a should a schools its about stripping us of our abilities to come together to hold them accountable to carry into. Erica are stretched insistent to demand them to understand our political power and our of our roles across the citee where the final lie should surely lie which is. You see when you talk like that and when you mention by any means necessary quoting malcolm x. People in power in this country say things are very different in this country compared to the usa you dont think its possible that while black people are twice as likely to die in Police Custody the fact that say 2017 every prosecution over a death. Over 15 years ended in acquittal shows that the police were innocent the problems that exist in us exist in the u. K. And we can in. There are attempts from those at the very top to do rail to try and paint and whitewash the realities of that but we know we know from the united families and Friends Campaign of those killed in state custody across the u. K. But people are exposed to plagues our society as much as it does the us when i went over with some time unease from the u. K. Mainly those. Loved ones were killed in Police Custody in particular the us argue best counterparts were shocked to hear that the levels of death of violence and the lack of accountability because they would ask the same question across the west coast but how is this possible when your Police Officers arent even armed well in part 2 are going to talk to the un special rapporteur on freedom of association who argues it was wrong for the metropolitan police to charge horses at demonstrators here in london in the past few days but in the us a black clothes matter is arguing for a nationwide defunding of the police why do you think no one here is talking about defunding the police i dont think that no one in the u. K. Is talking about defending the police turf spoken about it for a very long time that conversation about the nature of the police as an institution does a lot of character assassination a lot of attacks with people who dare to interrogate that space and to my justice. By also pointing to the fact that we should be taking an abolitionist stance on that from the police to prisons youve also campaigned against what you call Israeli Apartheid what do you think about education in britains complicity with what you call Israeli Apartheid especially in the context obviously of the Labor Party Shadow foreign secretary saying condemning atrocities by the Israeli Government is and is a mythic. Our home secretary pretty dull previously had to resign over secret meetings with israeli officials i think that the reality of our our institutions complicity with the Israeli Apartheid is obvious for all to see in fact theres been a Mass Mobilization of hundreds and even thousands of students across the u. K. Demanding. Apartheid these cuts in these ties be removed the tuition fees within universities for example not be put towards the continued strengthening of our relationship with. You know a colonial state with the black eyes matta protests around the world. Including. Across the middle east we have seen that people are making our preaching links our understanding the global systematic nature of racism of colonialism of that humanization of global south communities and that therefore of response an awful conniving in opposition to them requires. That we come together that we built coalitions and that we look to Solutions Beyond the limits of each of our borders not just finally we do have a sad you have churchill or alleged racism by elements where we also have a statue of Nelson Mandela what is it about black heroes like mandela for instance when it comes to education that no mention today is made that mandela refused to renounce violent Armed Struggle in defense of those people of color in south africa this comes to army to strengthen. Spaces of accountability the ways in which we organize must always come from below our government will respond to this in the long term even if its mine it tokenistic reforms it will respond and we have to hold them to account around the attempts of solutions which include the likes of the mandela statue. And i think that we have to demand some other reforms we have to demand more radical to form some shouldnt be afraid we cannot let this time this mass protest this these uprisings be limited to just the removal of statues has to go has to be far more transformative than that it is a dishonor to mandela that all that came from his legacy is a statue in parliament a space that continues to be incredibly privileged that continues to chant out policy is that incredibly races that continue to reinforce that it is that the division between all and so the ways in which we truly on his legacy is by the dismantling of race the structures for my education to our Healthcare System to the walls of parliament themselves really over to our throats here after the break as the United States meets demonstrations with military style forces we are the United Nations repertoire on the right to freedom of Peaceful Assembly this is a global double standard when it comes to the malaysian of the human right to protest for the more coming up in part 2 of going underground. 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Welcome back from latin america to the middle east the United States is always the 1st to threaten sanctions and even military action when it comes to crackdowns on peaceful protest but in the wake of the murder of george floyd by the Police Last Month the us has met one of the greatest waves of domestic unrest since the civil war with military style repression using rubber coated steel bullets tear gas and ahmed vehicles so is there a global double standard when it comes to the violation of the human right to protest joining me now via skype from geneva is the United Nations repertoire on the rights to freedom of Peaceful Assembly and of association came all the way to measure up to thanks so much for coming on lets just begin with under coronavirus what is your campaign for freedom of assembly what must nation states actually do now. Thank you very much for the that youre out. Of this you know you know yeah i think that these are not about it. Biased not since a lot of measure taken by this spirit which are not. In some sometime in line with international in some of its ivy that basket some of them taken advantage of the koran are biased and measure out and youll also see that based on that and based on the information that i see from complain that obviously i didnt attend and one of my 1000000 background in this temporary is also a story about governments but i suspect the maoists doing that will be the land sea i doubt 19 should not be a protest took out so the fundamental freedoms that while we dont organize. Any governments tool to to step in need to shit that are now at international. By International Governments again but its got at the freedoms should be considered to be i suspect that and the 2nd thing is also about its for me it is important also to have this guy lance also that the corrupt and very simple to show that democratic lie our institutions and must continue to function and that it will be one thing we saw also that in some towns if there is. Some country there is a lot of us thats being more out there to the its all bad but that institution and there is a program of check and balance and i think it is important that when we address in this beat spread of peaceful beat we also aspects and look at it and station the problem and the need to work that out when its a pretty beastly Civil Society need also to have the money to out in public to be able also d to monitor what is going on while those things are implemented it is that anyone who does that mean that does that mean that one can defy government orders to lock down and not go out i mean over here we have the leader of the oppositions you can start saying it is wrong to protest. Hes told this by his the politicians of his party do not protest and i think we need to be good to be clear that we are as a Citizen Media are standing by its our city and we want to support the government but lets be clear that its not because the peace its going and that the people not brought us justice will not. I guess in advance yes so i think it is important that and we saw that we see that. The what that people are able to protest what last autumn and then some are. Really where in the maoist in that they get some side of this mess and i think we should be seeing to live because we dont know all how many time these goalies will lose they are wrong i mean its i mean its a sin and if it can we just spend a lot of democratic rights and not suspend our democratic decision until we are able to effect clear as to something or being and i think that we saying that yes the government. There was an egyptian people and those which actually meet at wembley see that it isnt ringback the police see it so there you see what i mean like the official position of the government here i dont know whether its complying with principle one of your campaign for freedom of assembly it says that you cant you cant assemble in public if youre in a group of more than 6 people is that a violation of those principles meeting you to mean that. Sound down where you saw that this day that this prayer is going on yes you can leave it the number of protests but youll have also to be sure that it is not becoming the rule that soon us you see that is this is this i mean its the christian we need also elect some government that really need also to our house a number of the people to want to sit and look at the. Anyway i mean everyones ignoring it anyway clearly in the United States you must have seen the pictures of thousands maybe tens of thousands of people what have you made of the pictures of. Militarized police even the army on stand by the tear gas the rubber coated bullets being ordered by local states in the United States not by dont have to say because hes not in control of the police force what have you made of those pictures of what happens to demonstrators who have ignored as you say government advice yes i think i think lets be also i meant that what is happening in the United States out that get him up the charts really. Is not and we seeing this feeling this is not acceptable and were into this leads to protests took on this are this image or to be sure that its the end of this in justice that is and obviously its communication and that is that its an image or to the store so that everybody. In the United States and live. In the country be doubts fair enough if the lab and we source about doing this protest the police use Excessive Force where we can be in our United States we mentioned in some of these programs that we saw and then we also request the government on this image or to start out before the scandal about writing on our backs the police that the police in children not to be. The police are the best Prep International not which is also doubts whether there is some violence it doesnt mean that the all peaceful protests if the protest is not peaceful and that is they were why they reply to your leisure. Yes you know what i think. Hes only getting 2 weeks that started we asked you know were going to receive the start of it you know i want respect to the source of who have come to you about and sometimes it is this is like any other democracy democracys now is in some time and im confident that our. American league this what its going to be able to look at and be studied and to become strong because this is how and democracy is about to let people who work with breath and also. Saw that we meet the demand the least significant of people and this is it i mean over here in britain i dont sure youve seen the pictures of the demonstrations the uprising here outside Boris Johnsons house in downing street is it all right to charge horses at protesters who appeared to be unarmed although the police say they were throwing bottles is it ok to charge horses in the pouring rain of demonstrators i dont think this. Time where some of these demonstrations happy because its an experience which is to do not equate to this communication at least at this commission i think that there are process that we should be marked out to be on listen to people and i guess anxiety thats leave us this i think for me are this is about human rights this is not a principle its got it on but its not abuse but human right is a fundamental act that people are asking and you go out. For who want to do a wink of the the information we now have about journalists being affected your principle 7 on your list as freedom of expression must be guaranteed what do you make of assault tandon arrests sometimes on television of c. N. N. Dortch avella r t correspondents black lives matter protests in the usa yes let me your so i find that out that my black and. This this is something that you are asked actually that where you buy you out if you are black people you know that matter and this fight is important its a long fight is as many as are in need by the sea its a mini i thought cycle and i wanted to in fact say thats not nice when it might be their money trying to put it all out in the hours of work that is full of something because you cannot address tonight is that bit to provide a mission and i guess in the midst of mark and i saw thats my. Belief going or saw we do lots of fun things that a system will issue a statement to come down out of this film like this because we need information we need to know what is going on if there is or if the government argued that it is right and it is. So easy to people is this not just donald trump says its a lame stream media doing everything within their power to foment hatred and anneke as long as everyone understands what theyre doing that they are fake news and truly bad people with a sick agenda thats why these journalists perhaps are being targeted by Law Enforcement i dont want to argue about it going after upset but i think that that you know isnt that aspect of their act up to now this is about democracy and the free information flow of information and believe that you can not be all people have it not only to do this im going to turn the fitness and became what is the x. But if you just reflect on what youve seen of the black man lives matter protests do you think theyre on a par with nations that they usually sanctioned for human rights abuses you know i think i think we need to take this minute to take this in and merely are specific about also about this i dont think using this word is ive been going on t. V. How they live for many of my they started last there are so many people that. When i sprayed the police they asked that we dont need to outwork to see a mess and the police got there was this is not just on the west its also fights and we shouldnt wonder and that is that this is not the parts i did this one please go to our biggest one and you base it on people asking justice in respect of the ag ok just finally article 21 appears not to apply to un stuff what did you make of the un secretary at sending an email to staff telling them not to demonstrate not to exercise their freedom of association and Peaceful Assembly i want to emphasize that for many years you were un and currently you when you stand in quite the mark for protection of you my heart for it and you know this and discrimination for anything that injustice and inequality and i think back to this news is going back to him and i think that this is not right and in my forebears i am writes that you went about this because you did it out to meet the spot because acting that we are going to get im going for it where you are should be and you are starting the showing that the way these are not about the sentiment is about also action and acting un is important and im sure and i respect squats and i get mad because you know that and im shocked that this is good to do no doubt will listen to the core of many people who are at war to leafs. And thats one star it will also to enjoy our fundamental rights as a human being but also as this examiner because of this the asset in this cause and we need to show that this also for the International Community that the at you can not find this interesting just then the silence when we. Should be done when we buy about to be without this community here and special operator thank you. Sponsor and then you thank you very much and thats it for the show special shout out to my phone. Up here a fancy was 90 years old today will be back on saturday 49 years to the day u. S. Military whistleblower john levels books revelations of systematic lying by u. S. Authorities about indiscriminate killing in vietnam cambodia and laos were 1st published you can watch our interview with ailes began to support the london imprisoned wiki leaks publisher julius on for one hour huge of genitals out of a washout to join the underground you put a sign that is united facebook. You cannot be both with the yeah you like. Welcoming our viewers from around the world live from Central London this is our 2 u. K. Statue of slave trader Robert Milligan is removed his campaign is targeted at least 60 other controversial one humans in the u. K. We hear from an activist from black lives matter and a Police Officer the. U. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson pushes ahead with plans to lift the lockdown amid concerns from the Hospitality Industry and for the to meet a social distancing rule. Doctors warn of an epidemic of loveliness as dozens of people are discovered dead in their homes after weeks of long down thats n. H. S. Bosses board hospital waiting lists in england could supply 10000000 by the end of the year. The u. K. Opposition hits out of the government for delaying a review into the Counterterrorism Program scheme ill be talking to a radicalization expert. Following days of black lives not a process around the world and the death of unarmed black man george floyd at the hands of a white Police Officer memorials to historical figures in the u. K. Continue to cause controversy in the u. K. The statue of slave trade at Robert Milliken has been removed from outside a london museum. Robert millikan was an 18th century scottish merchant who owned over 500. 00 slaves in jamaica as well as a sugar plantation the museum described the monuments presence as uncomfortable and a reminder of britains problematic cost this comes after the monument of another slave trade Edward Colston was forcibly removed by protesters in bristol and thrown into a river the council says it will be retrieved and placed in a museum meanwhile demonstrators are calling for the review of all the controversial monuments. I. Was. Well fed the process are expected over the coming days while the Police Reaction is also under the microscope londons mayor is drawing up plans to address concerns about alleged just proportionate use of force against minority communities says one musician faced a video of his 62 year old father being tasered by police and of police baton. Its still rife among the black community the metropolitan police have defended the use of force while the labor leader and Prime Minister clashed over the implementation of an independent report by labor m. P. David lammy aimed at addressing injustices. As to the recommendations in the law made report into inequality in the criminal Justice System have yet to be implemented 3 years after the report was published similarly the long delayed and damning report by Wendy Williams into the windrush scandal has yet to be implemented i spoke last night to black Community Leaders and they had a very clear message for the Prime Minister implement the recall youve already got so could the Prime Minister now turbo charge the government responses how we are increasing already the number of black minority ethnic people in the Prison Service is david lammy i recommended we are increasing the use of body one cameras and how we are trying to ensure amongst other things that young be any people are not immediately prosecuted as a result of the problem they find themselves in and we try to make sure that we give people a chance but i must stress that on the lam the report and on all these matters it is absolutely vital at the same time that we keep our streets safe. One of the organizers of the black lives not a movement in the u. K. Gary mcfarland told me that schools need to update their curriculum to teach children about the true legacy of the slave trade. Actually existence of the monuments is a distortion of history far from being monuments these people. Should be written into the history books and proper history taught about the real legacy of a slave trade and the real part played by the slave trade in the building of modern britain thats the same the Industrial Revolution and the British Empire none of that is currently integrated into the National Curriculum despite decades of demanding but real history has taught history of the people that live on this island and the people are complete imbecile and that 2 groups of the wealth of this country none of that is really taught in our schools yeah again with the monuments is a step in the right direction so it gets and truth in seeing the discourse but how is that about how you also get rid of the statues as well as that case of infantilizing them is actually wrong 2 wrongs dont make a right do that isnt there a sort of more democratic way of removing them now when i was the height of democracy 30000 people coming together in bristol whats up in this problem the biggest demonstrations bristol seen for a very long time and all revolutions situations statues articles and yes thats a good sign for the future because we do need a revolution in this country and many others say advocating revolution but looking at great heres one of the sectors that they are also people would like to have remade for didnt also advocate abolishing slave trade as i say well no the americans again of the store simply stated people who should be getting the statues of people like to use only the people a bit of a slave trade thats the state of rebel leaders of the slate leaders of the caribbean that made slavery impossible to maintain by the european powers. Well on this issue im now joined by former Police Officer simon tannock. Sana thank you for joining us the london mayor says hes looking at ways to diffuse the situation during these black lines not to process havent we got to change have police operate. Well i think i dont know what specifically you mean i may not one of the things i love the barras talks about again what its on this constant but that is about stop and search and rejection the use of stop and search in london which are going to be by the minute i think the police like another was open to change clearly the need to listen to what people say what the population is saying as your goals policing there are issues that disproportionality in the in certain areas but most of those can be accounted for because of the deployments and live in the place trying to deal with this absolute epidemic of primum and young black men killing each other which i think is a far more serious issue at the moment but one that seems to been forgotten in all the melody about the tragedy of the terrible behavior by the police also was l. T. M. The death of the general gentleman in that in america so you know i think i think that there have to be changes in there always will be changes in the Police Commissioner in particular is very alive to those of a relatively new commissioner who d has shown d that she is willing to listen and i think men are to say the stop and search makes people from that black and ethnic minority communities feel singled out. Single guys across the wrong were tears as i say the thing about spoken search and it has it has hopped over the last few years not part of which was the likes of mr cohen and also the reason why when she was when she was home secretary the problem is along with that has been the more than doubling or tripling if you like of the murders of young black men i mean 128 saying there were 44. 00 stabbings which resulted in the death of these young black men from these communities so a lot of police that is going to be focused in those areas where those crops up and they in an attempt to stop to stop those young men dying and ripping the how the heart of the community is not the families and i for one thing that is a hugely important thing to do and its something that i know the d commissioner is very very keen to d try and address as you know she as a it is such a crucial issue particularly for london but isnt there a big difference will there is a big difference isnt there between the u. K. Policing which is policing by consent and the u. S. And others around europe as well that who police by force dont they. Theres a huge there is a huge difference you cannot compare the way the police are trying the way they operate you know the 1st thing that you look at is obviously the Police Officers in britain routinely are we have in the response capability but might one percent or more all the Police Officers and let them dont carry firearms and that police with the consent of the people there from the people they release with the people thats the whole and the british policing and i would hate to see that change what about then the use of tasers i mean dont they just inflame the situation we saw the video there of a 62 year old man being tasered in his own. Kayser is a very very important device its generally used in order to i mean it sounds a little bit about use but i know in order to reduce the level of force used i dont know the depth of this this story about the gentleman obviously will be investigated a lot to do with the introduction of terrorism when it came to a mom Police Offices and the use of taser in particular when its measured by measure to use by using a Service Somebody has read. That is to process it useful which officers have to complete a full report and everything and the use of that will often d not present saddams assumes its as soon as its deployed i. E. Somebody gets a red they will stop the fighting and hate me juices massively the amount of conflict between individuals it really doesnt it even many issues the level of force from one side is a down side best the Malevolent Force that can happen if offices have to d physically intervene and that can become a little bit of a method to spot them using their approved techniques they use a taser which is a 5 2nd 5 2nd shot which is quite painful up ive been subject so to myself it is quite painful 5 seconds and its all over so although it can appear quite quite impressive all quite scary the actual use of force is below that which would often be used that were not available and so in the case when its used in preference to a firearm which again was the only option before the people coming out we will not fix cetera et cetera often a firearm would be used and that was a much more effective and a much lesser use of force im inside i thank you for joining us thank you. But meanwhile the Prime Minister is pushing ahead with plans to lift the coronavirus not down in england with the reopening of nonessential shops chilled phonetics take on t u case around and joins me now from our base on the basis of the governments preparing to ease more measures on the haze the lot down across the country absolutely weve seen that this week the governments having to perhaps roll back on some of that roadmap with regards to refereeing the country its. You know with children going back to the classroom now see that it will be september the earliest that all School Children will be allowed back in to schools and so thats one part of the Prime Ministers plan that isnt going quite as scheduled but as far as Boris Johnson is concerned he does want to see things like shops and restaurants open and says that when it comes to outlets like pubs there will be a schedule that will be kept as far as hes concerned the house remember that according to the road map we were going to open out to Host Hospitality no no earlier than july the 4th and hes still the plan we are sticking to our plan when so gardens hes not being developed for such hospitality and what we dont want to see is a roiling bacchanalian amassing of people that can spread the disease are very important people understand the continuing risks that this country faces. Now were expecting Boris Johnson to head up the Daily Press Conference what could he be announcing today we understand and zeus so far e parks and outdoor cinemas could open by next monday we already know that the government will be reopening non essential retail shops with social distancing measures in place now thus far throughout this period we have had a 2 meter social distancing distance in place but we understand that there are some within the government who want that to be reviewed want that to be brought down to one meter in line with the World Health Organizations own recommendations that one meets or around 3 feet is enough distance to be safe and those in the Restaurant Industry those in the catering industry those in the Hospitality Industry say that that could make a massive difference in helping them get their doors back open and try to get as many customers safely in the doors as possible to get the wheels of the economy rolling once more they had he said thank you very much. The doctors are investigating the deaths of dozens of people found alone in their homes during the pandemic many who died late undiscovered for up to 2 weeks prompting fears many people arent seeking Health Treatment when they need it delayed discovery means somebody said began to decompose making it difficult to establish if the cause of death was from covert 19 but charity is a medics have pointed to a drop in people seeking help for serious illnesses like heart attacks and strokes since the pandemic started. Well it comes as n. H. S. Bosses warn that by the end of the year hospital waiting lists for surgeries in england could have more than doubled from the 4400000 shared before the pandemic the n. H. S. Confederation said this dropped to 4200000 in launches doctors referred fewer people for procedures like hip replacements and cataract removal but these waiting lists could surpass 10000000 by the end of the year of hospitals deal with a possible 2nd wave of the virus Staff Shortages and a reduction in beds juta social distancing well in a letter to the Prime Minister the head of the n. H. S. Confederation said the government needed to be realistic about what was possible it will not be possible simply to switch on n. H. S. Services the government has a vital role to play in making this clear and providing reassurance that every possible step is being taken to control the virus so we start to resume routine services the n. H. S. Is keen to resume as Many Services as it can but we need a level of realism about what can and what cannot be achieved safely in the coming months well the government has said that private hospitals could be used to help clear the backlog while the Health Secretary said the drop in those attending Emergency Rooms was partly due to people seeking appropriate and fires from the local doctor but his previous distress that people should seek hospital treatment if they need it or the department of health said it already issued guidelines to the n. H. S. And how services can be restored safely thanks to all the hard work and dedication of n. H. S. Staff hospitals were not overwhelmed to touring the peak of the corona Virus Outbreak guidance has already been issued to the n. H. S. On how they should start to restore services in a safe way. Well lets take a look at how the outbreak is affecting the u. K. s 4 home nations there have been a further 109 deaths reported across the u. K. According to individual households or it is n. H. S. England has reported 88 hospital deaths while the Scottish Health authorities have reported 12 across all settings wales for 49 and Northern Ireland has reported no new deaths for the 4th day in a row well the u. K. Set to become the worst economically affected country in the developed world by the coronavirus pandemic according to a report by the organization for Economic Cooperation and development Britains National income is forecast to 4 by oprah 11 percent this year the document cited a soaring Unemployment Rate as a chief concern predicting the u. K. Slump is likely to overtake countries including brazil and sweden both of which have faced heavy criticism over their coronavirus responses. And now lets turn to the global coronavirus figures they have been over 7200000 confirmed infections according to worldwide day said collated by Johns Hopkins university in the us more than 412000 people have died while the total number of recoveries approaches 4000000. 00. Dollars a gallon this hour. The opposition accuses the u. K. Government of incompetence over its handling of a review into its counterterrorism policy ill be talking to a radicalization expert. The best. Probably the greatest success of the Civil Rights Movement was respect for Human Dignity all lives matter under the rule of law that was then but today the same concept has been turned on its head we are told to change the need or face consequences the social she is being turned into a ruling by me all. Odds no 2 no crow. No shots no. Patches just belts because. The last straw no 1st. Points your thirst for action. So small seems wrong but old old just dont call. Me old yet to stamp out disdain comes to advocate and in again because betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. Welcome back the u. K. Government faces a legal challenge over its refusal to hold an urgent inquiry into shortages of personal protective equipment during the coronavirus pandemic a group of doctors and campaigners have launched a high Court Challenge hoping it will lead to a judicial review into whether n. H. S. Staff and care workers receive adequate equipment such as gowns mosques and clubs the group says an investigation must take place as soon as reasonably practical to protect Frontline Health care workers if a 2nd wave were to hit they also hope the inquiry would get out says for the families of frontline stoff whove lost their lives as to whether p. P. A. Shortages played a role in their deaths we are appalled at the governments refusal to urgently commission an independent Public Inquiry to examine all the facts from the planning to the procurement to the provision of p. P. A. And learn lessons a review is imperative if we are to avoid a repeat of the condition seen during the 1st wave of the pandemic we know there has been an inadequate supply of out of date and perishing stock we know our standards have fallen short of World Health Organization and European Center for Disease Control guidance. Well campaigners are crowdfunding for their case and of raise more than 60000. 00 pounds they believe the government has an obligation to launch an investigation under the human rights act a department of health and social care spokesperson refused to comment on ongoing legal proceedings. And the u. K. Opposition has hit out at the government for delaying and independent report into britains counterterrorism scheme prevent the review into the prevent program which aims to stop Vulnerable People falling prey to terrorist ideology as was commissioned in january last year however the body that will conduct the review still doesnt have a chairman of the lord carlile stood down in december 2019 or critics of the scheme say it disproportionately targets people from muslim backgrounds and ignores pyrite terrorists it comes as the government push through a 2nd reading of a new counterterrorism bill which removes a deadline for ministers to respond to the findings of the prevent or if you it also aims to increase sentences and lower the burden of proof which labor m. P. David lammy says is completely wrong. Whatever they have done wrong those seduced by the dangerous side geology in their teenage years must be given every opportunity to change the conservative government seems to have taken 9 years to move away from labor policy and then to return full circle back to it madam Deputy Speaker whether it can be justified or not. The standard of proof inevitably creases the chances of innocent individuals being subjected to serious constraints on their freedom and given the courts found no problems with the current threshold as the independent review of terrorism legislation notes what are the reasons for this you said. I want to discuss this and im joined by radicalization expert dr tom that he and his thank you for joining us what do you make of the delays are surrounding the review of the prevent skiing. Well the delay is just another straw are so to speak on the camels back of many many struck. One has to take this into consideration the fact that karls who are a formal review of prevent have been really dismissed 3 years until they were formally accepted. And then nor carlos chosen and i should mention your lawyer carlos also chosen among choices he would be under the bad joke category of choice which is of course how he was forced to step down and now obviously this these these dismissals and now these delays really just i think for many in the community. Demonstrate just how performative this whole thing is not something though ready that really taken seriously and what about this game itself do you think is it ineffective. The prevent ringback team is most likely perhaps one of the most atrocious Public Health policy is or Public Policy dicey across the global north in a in in its treatment and understanding of of trying to prevent crime in the future its absolutely its absolutely one of the worst ones that ive seen whats what are the flaws what makes it so bad. Well 1st of all theres a lot of research that demonstrate in public consciousness and british publics imagination the threat of terrorism is common sense qui associated with muslims with this land and with the signs and symbols and performance that there are sources muslims and. And so to make it a public statutory duty prove people to report under good feelings when they feel they are encountering something potentially lead to criminality in the future. That is is inconceivable that they ever line of the scheme in itself there isnt inherently wrong business trying to stop vulnerable individuals from getting brainwashed by terrorist ideologies which is which is a good idea isnt it. Sure but thats a particular framing of how are you understand terrorism to develop i mean the frame that you just provided is that kind of which is very similar to work to government proposes that there is this sort of ideology sort of floating around in space and in insects you know people who are who are vulnerable at particular times. We know actually researched or Political Violence is a very complicated phenomenon and its not one that can just be located in a in a way of ok lets try to stop people from catching a certain virus d like like actually the pandemic that is occurring right now i mean if you think about how much money has been invested in sauls theories and paradigms of how Political Violence develops as opposed to actually investing in proper Public Health to a very real virus its a coronavirus right now i mean the u. K. One of the worst affected countries is just shows how all of this is just politically manufactured then what more would you like to see from the government what would you pay. I think for myself and most critics when they if they ever choose progress reviewer i think its imperative 1st and foremost that its someone whos been known within the community an antiracist. Whos been known within the community respected within the Muslim Community especially for years and one whos really given full assets to the database and we know were not tens of thousands of people who for through prevent for reasons that in research we know can just be someone whos putting on a headscarf and we time what potentially thousands of people who put on a headscarf or the 1st time who are now in a Police Database they need to be given access to all these files that are now in Police Database. And otherwise i think theres very little to care about this prevent review unless they actually unless they actually release the citys conditions that muslims are putting forward to tell you next time thank you very much indeed for talking to us thank you thank you so much and ill be back with more news in half an hour including the u. K. Governments daily Coronavirus Briefing lead today by the Prime Minister in. Well its right there. Where a dead body could be a mistress right now. Its hard convincing. To make minimum wage he can be recruited by a gay and sell drugs and make hundreds of dollars a day. Still introduce his inner fish so one of the 1st is still throats but since youre. In if you dont have the know how all. The slime saves all this clueless idiot lifestyle hes going to fail. They cant find somewhere else does he have a criminal record. Going to 5 jobs because of a criminal record so they dont have the money for that community anyway. They do one flexible soon be they might want one black face or they want one black famous person they want one black abyss and one black. Hello and welcome to crossfire all things are considered on Peter Lavelle probably greatest success of the Civil Rights Movement was respect for Human Dignity all lives matter under the rule of law that was then but today the same concept has been turned on its head we were told to take a knee or face consequences social shaming is being turned into a ruling ideology. To grasshoppers and more im joined by my guests are there in toronto he