America not going away weve seen this before but people are saying this time is to its different you think its different. It is different larry because this poll is very important in a president ial race whether the countrys going on the right or wrong direction and clearly americans are dissatisfied with with the economy theres 21000000 Americans Still unemployed theres racial tension theres a perception that the president and his that ministration have not done well in protecting us from the virus although there is progress so i think it looks good right now you hate the predicts so early 5 months away for joe biden my only worry is that joe biden who im supporting not take the race for granted i like him to get out of his living room and get out with the people more into the key states like michigan ohio pennsylvania iowa florida but i think hes a our strongest candidate numb pleased with the direction his campaign is take you think in terms of Race Relations will never be the same. Thats right larry i mean i know right now i think theres a perception by the American People a sizable majority that Race Relations are in very bad shape these deaths of so many africanamericans the tension between communities and the police i just think this is not just democrats this is republicans democrats independent thinking that we need a healer now we need a president that is going to bring the country together and somehow thats not happening especially in Race Relations i dont think itll ever be the same what do you make of this president who. Can seem to bring himself to have empathy autumn for new sunni in the country. Well i think you see it with him wanting to use the riots in washington gassing people using the military going to a church using a prop of the bible but not showing empathy not trying to bring the country together heal saying instead of saying were going to dominate those profit protester saying i understand your protests i understand we need to heal and he doesnt show any empathy and what i think eventual hes going to be the deciding factor in this race larry is people are going to be tired of this theyre going to want a stability and i think joe biden brings that brings not terribly much excitement but he brings competence he brings experience stability and empathy because Everybody Knows the man joe biden has suffered the death of his wife the death of his son of the death of his of both biden this is 2 kids so again i just think thats whats going to be the deciding factor people are just going to be tired of a president that doesnt show an ability to bring us together instead just dividing us. Its funny that can you seen President Trump in the Oval Office Making the haughton plain to americans for unity. Well. I understand that thats under consideration but it just may be too late but he should still do it larry hes still somebody i consider my president i just think were at such a stage of disunity of protests and people being tired and the cold it has brought a lot of venting that is also common among our people but but a fresh gratian that somehow a president like john f. Kennedy like Clinton Obama like george w. Bush colin powell theyre wanting us to come together in this president is unable to do that given george flaw in him a name change this election the death of george floyd changed things dramatically in america and it doesnt go away. Yes i think george floyd is the Tipping Point but i think you already saw it with the American People thinking the president moved too late on a covert issue 21000000 unemployed and economy and in deep trouble. Also i do think the george floyd issue has changed the relationship between the American People and the Africanamerican Community where theres enormous support and sympathy for the protesters and for those African Americans that unfortunately have been victims of Police Brutality and its also changed the relationship we have i think with the police now we dont want to defund the police but i think we need more. Africanamericans hispanics and Police Forces i think larry we need to take that military gear that Police Departments get and if we need to find ways in which communities Work Together closer with the police get the bad apples out of the police but you know this defund the police get them out of the way thats not going to i keep hearing that what is defund main take away their money how do you got to pay their salaries what i mean by defunding. Well i dont i think thats a confusing term but in my view you dont take away their salaries the men and women of the police i think what needs to happen is as i said get communities closer with the police let them examine their procedures better get rid of the bad apples more training more Community Policing find ways that you bring communities closer to it to beas police make more africanamericans. And hispanics and minorities part of the police force stop racial profiling i think youre going to see a lot of communities do that stop the chokeholds minneapolis done that i think youre going to make that thatll be more prevalent throughout the country nixon won barely 1968 running on law and order do you think that could work now for 4 trump law and order a campaign. Well look most americans support law and order we should support our military you should support our Law Enforcement but law in order for this president s men gassing prosensa protesters its meant finding ways to Disperse Protesters bring the military the National Guard our military into domestic disturbances like d. C. Walking to a church with a bible i think this is unprecedented and this is why i think youre going to see a sizable number of moderate republicans in the suburbs women that turn against the president in the president ial election. Talk about the vice presidency you once had a team searching for a possible Vice President right. Well i was considered a couple of times for vice pres i didnt quite make it but i know the process larry what is the process the process is they extensively the president ial candidates examine your tax records they examine your youre all kinds of statements youve made before they poll to see obeah help the ticket they he they go around asking about rumors about your life. I am please i think for the 1st time larry the Vice President ial debate is going to be key in who wins the president ial election because we the democrats were going to have a woman and i think youre going to see. An effort and an election where. Men and women of color and spanish saffron americans women are going to get elected more than they have before speaking a woman and the you have a favorite youre a governor what do you think michelle good. Well im for her but i think the president has got to make that choice the 1st qualification is can this person step in to be president the 2nd it has. What are we going to do about winning in other words you know theres polling over who can bring the most votes i think this president its going to be very tough for him not to pick an africanamerican i think there are very strong candidates i think we need mats a month turnout in the africanamerican and hispanic communities around the country i think the president also while i support michelle grifter and you know im part of spanning. I do think that he has a big debt to the Africanamerican Community to congressman clyburn in South Carolina revived this campaign so i think its going to be tough for the Vice President biden to pick an africanamerican woman but thats my opinion they dont ask my opinion so if it is and if it isnt governor gresham who you think it will be. I think i think what im hearing is that congresswoman belt demings is is surging i think senator come on harris would be a very strong candidate so id say its between those 2 in my judgment right now but the Vice President is not going to pick till august and things may change in august polling issues i think Race Relations somebody that knows Law Enforcement the police this is like think bell demming so i dont know i just have seen her on television being a former police chief being a very good congresswoman i think shes kind of surging but the selectional be made in late july. 2 republicans and come forward to oppose the president one in office mitt romney and one not colin powell one what do you make of those 2 going their own way. Well i believe its significant particularly george w. Bush that he is saying that hes moving in another direction he represents the moderate wing of the Republican Party he represents even though i disagreed with a lot of things he did a unity of bipartisanship colin powell is a National Hero republican and i think its significant i think youre seeing also senator murkowski courageous senator from alaska youre seeing more republicans become emboldened and i think if this starts occurring more in the u. S. Senate theres 2 senators not mitt romney and murkowski thats going to be very significant in the erosion of the support for President Trump. Well be right back with more politicking and Bill Richardson right after this. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy to confront ation let it be an arms race is on offense very Dramatic Development only basically im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk. We go to work. Straight home. They can go home and blow our brains out at any given time and we cant really do anything actually america is the only country in the world where you can kill people outside of war and legally get away with. All of the fire crawls stillbirth you all the trouble here is briefly all the points its hollow point to k. K. K. Exists because america wants it to exist they have the biggest terrorist group to ever operate in this country and theyre dead to me theyre worse also than the people who destroyed the World Trade Centers of the scroll why. Thanks guys or financial survival. When customers go buy your disappearing. Didnt help well reduce a lower. Thats undercutting but whats good for the market is not good for the global economy. With our special guest former governor Bill Richardson lets discuss some of the things the navy veteran my goal white was released from prison in iran have to 683. 00 days you played apartment tell us how it worked out. Well i had been working larry with. Michael whites mother joyner because my Foundation Works on behalf of families to get american hostages out and i had pres the iranians the foreign minister zarif the u. N. Ambassador rip on cheek to let Michael White go hes been to 2 years in captivity he had the virus his health is not good. And on the humanitarian basis we said especially with the virus in the iranian prisoners let him out and we finally succeeded now the state department worked on this too because it involved some iranians in american prisons but Michael White a navy veteran hes home god bless him his mother finally and ive been working on these hostages before but thats what happened larry discussion with the iranians pushing them a bit meeting with the phone calls but then. President trump ale that release express gratitude for switzerlands assistance didnt mention you or anybody else what did you make of that well thats typical of the trumpet but the stray shit they dont like to give anybody credit you know i worked on a chinese american out of iran from princeton about 4 months ago and they gave me no credit they give me no credit now but thats fine these hostages are home you know trump likes to use this and his team at the state department for political reasons they want all the credit fine i know we played a part the family knows we played a part the country knows we played a part the iranians even confirmed that we played a part so we dont need the political credit the president meets all the credit he could get. Steve linnik state department for the Inspector General to be terminated youve called the series of findings unprecedented what it wants go on on. Well Inspector Generals i was in the cabinet and your cabinet secretary Inspector General says supposed to deal with fraud and waste and problems theyre not necessarily your allies but they work for the American People they work for the congress and i dont know what the cases in the state department are but you know fire Inspector Generals the way this administration has in the Intelligence Community and Human Services now at the state department its unprecedented you shouldnt do that i mean theres no there are employees of the president but thats on press its never happened before and these are people career people mostly the try to find problems in your department when i was a department of energy i called in my Inspector General i said is name was great friedman what can we do to Work Together i dont want problems with you but you found some problems here and we worked together and he had by that be through his Retirement Party im not saying im the perfect example but you dont fire Inspector Generals with the code 19 in the protests in the streets a we havent had much attention paid for foreign involvement. What concerns you are around the world now well you know we have the United States with 110 deaths we have proportionately the greatest number of deaths of any country to deal with future pandemics in this cove we need International Cooperation so what do we do which was a big mistake get out of the World Health Organization beat up on china ok china is partly responsible because they get a lot of information but we should be working together with the European Union with the best scientists and researchers in the world and larry were not doing that were trashing everybody were going it alone that doesnt work america should lead but with International Cooperation is there a trouble spot that concerns you. Yes the big trouble spot in my judgment is still north korea because. We havent had negotiations with him i worry hes building more Nuclear Weapons i think with iran. Theres tension theyre starting to build the a Nuclear Stockpile again. What id this like the most larry is that we dont seem to have too many friends anymore weve shunned the United Nations the World Health Organization our european allies the french the germans these are countries that have normally always been on our side we neglect a 3rd world so i just think weve got to change our International Posture to cooperation not confrontation. Do you think handling of the cold the 19 pandemic has affected us around the world. Well it happens because we have not cooperated with other countries as much as we should. Look im glad that we have some potential breakthroughs with the vaccine dr 5 i work with in mn the Clinton Administration east good but it just seems a lot of the decisions made at the white house internationally and within states attacking governors especially if theyre democrats is too political its to try to get political credit and i just think thats wrong what is are you paying close attention to this whats our image around the world right now our image around well in my opinion its deteriorated we used to be the leader nobody looks at us as a leader anymore they see as as a problem how can we do this good thing deal with the pandemic deal with the iranian issue deal with china without the United States because theyre going to get in the way that shouldnt be the case larry bill you haue had an organization whats it called. Its called the Richardson Center for global diplomacy and we work on american hostages try to get them out we work on protecting refugees we work on dialogue with north korea we work with supporting. Elephants in africa keeping them from being poached and killed im having a good time making individual difference help the rowing does and not refugees that are also have a lot of im starting to get the coded so trying to do some good larry occasionally it works im very happy about this hostage release several days ago Michael White thats what we do im a private citizen also trying to help the Navajo Nation that has been hit hard in the west with the coded the border hispanic communities i just think i have a responsibility now that im out of office still a little gas in the tank trying to help people and thats what im trying to do you concerned that the opening of america may be too soon. No i think youve got a balance and i think for instance in new mexico my governors done a good job of protecting the new mexico people from the cove it social distancing stay at home orders infection rates but were also a rural poor state so i think there has to be a balance larry opening up the Hotels Opening up. The opportunities were big tourism economy retail workers know i think the proper balance it goes state by state but in my state i think what is key here larry is governors of done a good job republican governors mike de wine in ohio larry open to maryland the Governor Cuomo in new york the governor california my governor i think those that are trying to balance but give priority to protecting the health of the American People its states that are taking the right action not the federal government theyre behind the states you know about to follow g. Said this could come back thats right i mean it if there could be a 2nd way but we should be prepared but until that 2nd wave lets gradually open the economy with care with proper balancing with security and measures that protect Health Social distancing should continue research into the vaccine obviously has to continue Wearing Masks you know ive got several mass here we got to do that we i got to Work Together and protect each other. Do you ms public office. No but it casually because i still have this foundation i get involved no ive done well since i left office financially ive got this foundation occasionally i miss it but not im fine im fine doing what im doing its making a contribution i still feel that im doing it but no i dont need to go back to washington in elective or a point of capacity im here in santa fe doing what i want to do what about the process of running for office did you enjoy that i love that i love campaigning i love shaking hands i love the human touch now larry its all like we you and i are doing here its all zoom ive missed those days i miss the big conventions i miss the the campaigning and handshaking but its dramatically change and thats a reality we have to accept that we shouldnt be interacting or touch each other well the scope it is still very very much present but ill be glad when its over believe me when you use that word do you think we might not have conventions. Well i think the. Its likely we will not have conventions the democratic side the odds are its going to be what is called a Virtual Convention i know President Trump wants to have a convention no matter what hes moving it out of North Carolina great state by the way because he wants to have all of the hoopla and the rallies i would be very careful but i think the democratic were doing it right were waiting till a final decision is made and think Vice President biden will be a key player in that decision i think hes doing a good job in his campaign the Vice President i want to get out to a little more go to michigan do the virtual stuff there doc do it all in his living room because hes quite a guy joe biden when he agree or disagree with his policies hes an extraordinary martin hes a wonderful human being he knows everybody he knows a lot he knows policy his gut instincts are good and i think thats can being coming forth in his campaign but i want him to get out and get out a little more thats all novena fank you so much for your time today its always great seeing you. Thank you larry all the best to you you look great larry anxiety you and thank you audie is for joining me on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my Facebook Page or tweet me at kings things and dont forget to use the politicking hash tag and thats all for this edition of politicking. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics or business im show business ill see you then. Is it real or is that fake should stay or should i go now is it real or is it fake thats the question of our age. Its hard to take some from somebody if you know have someone replacing. We want to do this interview today and i want to use the market and then they take me. For years. So how can i tell you stop selling drugs if well have some to put the money back. They just mean the way the life is almost in basically the course feast the 4th hour. To us what sickened me security positions open house you know. Jack me again. 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