Laws which were victorian and made it look as though you were being very hard and tough on the poorest people who ended up on the street sure nobody was allowed to sleep rough argues a rough sleeper time so i know all about that what happened was d the laws were not changed but people politically different needs to know were not going to bring people off script were not going to take them to call rough treatment for begging were going just going to completely ignore it but the problem was they didnt replace it with anything else so what looked like a very liberal well intentioned of look lets not punish the poorest among us they killed them and since then weve had many many deaths on the streets weve had an increasing amount of people on the streets so the oboist spent all of the energy and chance has the people with problems of ended up on the streets or mental institutions were closed so that happened children coming out to care in the Community Look who authorities care often ended up in the streets people who served in the armed forces and the producers and what it was was the streets became a place where people said lets just ignore it lets just not actually engage and lead the pandemic some people realize of course that every speck to your position in the social hierarchy the cracking or that if if you are ill you are ill and you could cross on to someone else so suddenly the government wakes up to the reality that every last one of those human beings who are on the streets are a baby or a vector or Vulnerable Person who could be parsing disease on to other. So they have the answer but of course of the 4 they found the silence a temporarily will get on to what the governments doing post pandemic already preparing to but surely and outlawed canteen if you said that to any of the lords of any persuasion labor liberal democrat or conservative they would completely refuted was a political decision what do they tell you none of these labor liberal democrat tories that theyve never said that they deliberately allowed homelessness i dont know as a warning to people they get on their bikes well i dont know if it was that kind of on your part it was kind of you if you dont if you dont participate in society and become prosperous then this is what can happen to you but what it was it was the failure of liberalism it was the blindness of showing oh so human rights abuse to stop people sleeping on the streets when really the biggest human rights abuse was the elect people on the street and people like me whod been brought sweepers beggars whod been in the prison system who had been into all the problems martin problems of modern postwar britain. Are people like me was i know we shouldnt be allowing people we should be providing for every party the labor party the conservative party all of the parties have construed to see it as a question of well people should have the right to stay on the streets and i. Would have died on the squeeze a young boy and a young man and decided that i wont decided that i would not allow that. And as you intimate there average life expectancies are horrendous on the streets here in britain but you call it a human rights abuse britain has so often seen fit to want to. Take other countries in its own image are you saying that money for all these wars currently where are parody taking china to task for hong kong there was a there was a mismatch between British Foreign policy and british home bolasie about homelessness. Oh theres been a mismatch since hundreds of years i mean its or isnt it interesting that the government of her wilson was handing over braces to the americans and clearing out people from those Little Islands and so you have these kind of thats her worsen the great socialist so youve always got this kind of we are we are Progressive Home and where you have to reopen seeds and unfortunately many many empires have been like that and britain is no different from the United States and is no different from other countries that have been incredibly were actually in africa or another i mean africa was one of the running souls of modern life because even though these kind of oppressions were happening over 200 years we are still paying the cost of those. Of those come situations i dont want to get too locked into this hard to talk about history and because im a im a next im an x. Racist or the next anti semites im the next whatever and when i got out having to go out of poverty and got out of crime when i got out i started to look very very seriously at the quality of the society that was around me and ive always found it very lacking and the very fact that you know they allow a kind of underclass of people not have a full life is is quite incredible Boris Johnson who certainly the british Prime Minister would certainly refute any. Hug him and the rough sweeping and homelessness was this political his government has pledged 236000000 for rough sleeping and the question is i suppose what do you make of accusations that his government stripping out any waiting for deprivation out of distributing emergency cash for councils if we look at the harsh reality the harsh reality is that mr johnsons government was the 1st government. Frightened super lawyers to bring those people indoors now we have to keep those people in goals we cannot decamped back onto the streets and thats one of the pursed campaigns i got involved in. Once we cope and 19 a curfew it started but the next big thing and this is the one that really frightens me i have dealt with on an average of between 2 with 5000 people a year in the United Kingdom nearly 30 years 229 years what im looking at now is probably in the region of 9 haarp a 1000000 people according to the local Government Association a whole of a 1000000 people you imagine a whole 1000000 people and 800000 of those coming and saying i want to sell the big issue so what im doing arent forming alliances and she recession alliance which looks 1st of all banging all objections not because its months as the labor party is saying but to years until become the the economy or rewrite or im also calling for the creation of a Great Government Bank which will mark propped up by eric leases in the bank. And i and i and and and the mogul just cant be paid what weve got to avoid is people becoming homeless because if you become homeless and your family breaks up then you enter the most expensive part of the british system which is the social into Pension System which will cost hundreds of thousands of pounds rather than treat people our home our children our childrens children more be out on the streets and that will take 50 years to sort out so what weve got to do is keep people in work so weve got to create work so the job creation schemes that we need to work are and we need to work on keeping control in the homes so. Theyre not directed unfortunately should say though that what youre proposing is actually quite mainstream in the United States joe biden is supported ensuring oh well thats very mainstream. Mainstream aids you can advocate the problem is to live the radicals thing is you can advocate something the revolution resort is actually make this government policy and do it with regard to taking over foreign peoples homes and and such things like that those are very very ideological things the problem with ideology is you then immediately set up an enormous amount of energy that goes into fighting the ideological point and having been through many ideological points i can tell you you can use all your energy its a pen or having a disagreement with your landlord and going to court and spending millions of pounds and running at the end of the day that neatly you are your landlord or better or so i dont want to turn down the ideological thank god i want to do let me call them and go and play to the galleries what i want to do is do to liberate none of the Political Parties have ever delivered to the poorest among us ok well i think all of them would probably deny i was playing to any gallery or john but ill stop you there more from john but after this break plus heads we win tails we win we investigate how if youre a billionaire coronaviruses maybe hundreds of millions of dollars even if more than a 100000. 00 of you killed tens of millions are now out of work some of them on american streets frightened by bandits and u. S. Army division that played a part in killing millions in vietnam all of them are coming out about to going underground. Odd note no crowd. No shots. Action news ltd. Extract the 1st. Point should your thirst for action. So small seems wrong all but all in all just dont call. Me. Yet to stamp out just being active. And engaged because of the trail. When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. Were told the civil unrest in the United States and beyond is about systemic racism were told western institutions are values that are inherently fun and wrong neither really explain the real evidence of social breakdown what is really in play here is an ideology an ideology that demands absolute submission. Welcome back im still here with a big issue found a lot should those who have just proportionately suffered from coronavirus those in wook i mean youve taken low skill jobs youre a been man road sweeper delivery man should the government compensate those people as a the t. S. S. A union is suggesting for the transport workers and all but say and a chest of. Well where youre going very pleased somebody is thinking along these lines god bless you carry on are can count by reason im a very simple home educated educated person educated in the streets as a street thug an underclass person who got into the middle classes educated themselves became a socialist and a revolutionary and tried desperately hard to talk about what i know the thing is that theres so much ideological crap going all around at the moment this show many bradley core ideas but the simple thing is if we can stop people. And we can give them some kind of work then we have harper 1000000 people greening to sell that reagan should because its the only way to ok well some people have said there is ideology or play the Boris Johnson old etonian school the eton with. Educating is children till september because it is government supported while state School Pupils have to go back to school this month. I mean is your future generations bill does it address education in that way what is being termed a class war in education in this country there are not many people like me who ever get into a position of anybody listening to them and what im saying is what i have observed i went to a Catholic RomanCatholic School after the 2nd world war it was cold at the secondary modern school and what it was was it was a sign of writing off the last parts of the under under the un skilled and least semi skilled working classes and what they did was they dumped those people like rained off the top they took 11 percent the people the germy call them comes from they took the 11 percent who put them into the into the grammar schools so they created the social divide if you actually look at the history of british Education System the 2nd world war what youll see is 35 percent of our children are failed school and because. They either then take report jobs then the people who took up the air uni if you go into the christian System People like me who wrote school ended up in the prison system we are the long term unemployed we are the people who are ill we are people who are the work in corps and its largely because all of the stuff about whether its the Public School system or whether its the comprehensive system or whatever whether its the socialist system or the conservative system every one of those lots of people have relaxed down the british unskilled working class and not help them out into a more skilled situation the fact that britain was a closed imperialist nation they thought that what they would do is they would just in this middle class or way impose on the working class these people what was best for them and what was best for them was to lead them to stew i can introduce you to. Not recovered from the 2nd world war who are now the working poor 3 generations well just finally then the future generations will recommence many initiatives former british chancellor George Osborne says we may need austerity in response to this pandemic far from the kind of investment youre talking about we need for the city of london to prosper a huge reduction in our debt to g. D. P. Ratio would you say to those who support our policy. Well mr osborne. Mr osborne other people who. Are responsible for many many of the. Transgressions that were made in the name of austerity i tend to agree with stick to it some other people who say that the cost of austerity is greater than what is saved so actually what you have is you have posterity austerity which takes generations and generations to work or austerity is too expensive we cant afford to waste money and what mr osborne should do i know i know very little about him ive never met him or i would say is austerity is the worst thing that you can do now we have to do what we did in 19. In order to remain. As an alternative to naziism in europe we had to start spending money could generations and generation so therefore the 2nd world war was not in doubt 55 years of the 2nd world war the last. Second world war and we are going to have to dig deep and borrow and borrow and borrow and get ourselves into a situation where in 50 or 60 years time we can sell curried we played with the corona kharaj that came in 2020 and mr mr. Mr osborne unfortunately this is what happens when you get people who are in incredibly privileged positions in society like these people will never show up or from the results of their the accuracy of their policies never stop work well we invite George Osborne now an editor like you of london although your editor of an International Paper hes the editor of a london paper not john but thank you. Thank you very much. Well as u. S. Protesters demand justice from an arguable racist cabinets to lead from l. A. To new york billionaires with businesses from london to moscow have been allegedly profiteering from the pandemic joining me now but skype from boston is coauthor of the institute for policy studies report billionaire bonanza 2020 wealth windfalls tumbling taxes and pandemic profiteers omar ok thanks so much omar for coming on i know theres been protests in boston im not sure how theyve been there around you but on your report you begin it by saying a billionaires disproportionately impact us politics culture and the economy itself they have a huge influence over society there one of the things that we said in the report is that inequality in america is a preexisting condition and this statement really reflects the fact that when there are there is a convulsion in the economy or some type of social problem it does not necessarily impact everyone equally at least not at 1st so in fact households and group with the least amount of resources will be often be disproportionately hit will not be able to recover as easily and we saw that and 2008 bernie as were able to recover and exceed their wealth and within the couple of years and that has not been the case for the median household how well have a amazons jeff bezos tells those the lone musky bomber shareholder in microsoft how well are they dont have a coronavirus theyve done very well sol i mean for us the most obvious profiteer has been just days owes his wealth has increased its like its mind boggling and he started off the year with 115000000000. 00 and net worth but when that report was released it was 140000000000. 00 as of this morning it was close to 150000000000. 00 and so that is like basically a 35. 00. 1000000000. 00 increase within 56 months and that is actually larger than the g. D. P. Of iceland and i think this is because the pandemic is playing to all of amazon strengths. Theyre a Large Corporation they have a massive wealth so they have the resources to weather the initial hit while Small Businesses closed up shop and all this is happening at the expense of worker safety amazon refuses to say how many people are out how many of their workers are sick and they fire those who are concerns so and theyre reversing hazard pay so basis its literally making billions of dollars while risking the last of his workforce hasnt one other person that you know that has made the news recently is this person a man arness garcia. You know hes someone whos being currently sued by his shareholders for using a coronavirus as a way to do some inside insider training trading and his wealth has increased over 4000000. March 18th well they all deny wrongdoing jeff bezos then presumably the great his income boost may be personal in World History it did you get the coverage in the Washington Post owned by jeff bezos and the report. We have not at least not that ive seen fortunately the coverage. In the print i mean stream press and at least the print media has been really good so weve been in roaders business as side or c. N. N. Have not seen anything on washington im sure its a coincidence but you know thats the point the billionaires claim they are great philanthropist they donate private planes to help in this pandemic and in fact they have been their great source of a sucker during this coronavirus pandemic and in fact philanthropy in general has increased over the last few years but what is unique about it is that its more top heavy which means that most of the given is done by the wealthy yes and thats because they can pay less in taxes. And i think this differs from the donations that you and i would make to like you know a nonprofit or homeless shelter but when the rich do and they do it for that you know tax write offs and sometimes some of the money sometimes the money that they donate is actually not dispersed and this is usually done through a donor advice funds so for example they can put in 100000000. 00 into that fund and then get an Immediate Tax write off and theoretically that money can sit there in that fund indefinitely and it never reaches desired destination basically as you say the word heart of every dollar is at the expense of taxes the democratically accountable to go to social services in any case these tax breaks is also well transfer from the bottom to the top so well and up happening is that you know when you give. A tax break or are cut their taxes what did it do with their money the right wing usually argues that they invest that money into like the productive sectors of the economy but you know we have noticed that you know they often just invest in Financial Instruments and speculative behavior and off the government usually ends up borrowing money from the people they should be taxing and and that and any government repays that that that loan that they get from the burning through taxation through from everywhere every day people could and working class a middle class well if we put entirely legitimate tax havens to one side you explain that before trying taxes on the president like the bushs Clinton Obama tax is paid by billionaires have gone down by around 80 percent between 192018. 00 yeah absolutely and that is like one of the. Most staggering statistics that we actually had. And this is unfortunate because a number of households that we have here that have 0 or negative what theyre actually increasing. So like 37 percent of African American families and there are 3 percent percent of hispanic families have 0 or negative wealth and that just goes goes to show that you know a rising tide is not lift all boats and you know it decrease in taxes does not actually mean its better for the economy as a home and that was before trump what do you think billionaires want from joe biden because hes had apparently 100 billionaires donate to his campaign versus 92 for the incumbent donald trump and thats actually a really good question i think the main thing that they want is to protect their privileges and be able to you know lower their taxes i think that that the main issue that you know for the billionaire class that main issue that they want is to not have their wealth threatened by any. Means so therefore their party going are pressure him to make sure that taxes are not race and if theyre going to report is Available Online just very briefly it not only itemize and explains all of this it does suggest ways out of this youre an emergency millionaire 10 percent income tax surtax and also a Pandemic Profiteering Oversight Committee i understand. Yes all of. Them are just email your income surtax is basically a tax it would be placed on people who make over 2000000. 00 a year which is basically just one percent of the population and that surtax can be kept in place puts pandemic weve estimated that we can raise over 600000000000. 00 in 10 years and if we can combine this with other taxes which is like a well tax or more progressive the state tax i think it will help expand opportunity by funding Education Health care and like other new initiatives like the Green New Deal and i think that congress should establish a pandemic profiteering committee and enact an excess profits tax because the problem with any economic crisis that Large Corporations disproportionately benefit because their competition goes out of business or they exploit the crisis by raising prices not according to supply and demand principles so that revenues that can be raised from that can be can be given to those who are in need or more of amber thank you thank you very much thank you thats over the shoulder were back on wednesday 135 years to the day the statue of liberty ablaze with the inscription we are tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free a right to your car but until then wash your hands and join me on the road were following up on you tube Twitter Facebook instagram and so. 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