International my names you know neal on your 30 minutes of news and views start. We begin in the United States another story developing out of the George Floyd Killing protests 2 new York Police Officers have pleaded not guilty to Assault Charges they were filmed aggressively pushing an elderly protester who fell and sustained a head injury both officers have been released with. The footage of the incident upsetting. If you have. Your. Officers in full riot gear and were forcing a curfew when it happens earlier in the entire Team Reportedly resigned from talk to code treaties after the. Charge still serves but they have been released remember were suspended without pay pay Police Department version of events initially said they tripped and fell on his own local media say the unit was discussed it at the treatment of their colleagues who they say were following instructions. A minnesota states representative. Join growing calls to disband the Minneapolis Police force she argues that it is beyond reform in calls from certain regional politicians proposing that the Police Department be dissolved in all the city because their house now agreed to the use of chokeholds by officers new rules also require police to report on intervene when they see all these using all the way through ice force r t america host rick sanchez explains why the reforms might be. In a case like this i dont want my Police Department to be privatized i dont like whats happening with the prisons since they have been privatized so i think its essential to keep the police as a form of our government i also think its important for us to realize that Police Officers cant do everything ive been watching videos on you tube yesterday i saw their life where they call the cops because the guy was fouled during a basketball game there are videos of schools teachers they cant handle the student hes unruly they call the police these are not Police Functions were over policing the solution is to look for ok lets lets start with the core of the problem is crime right we have too much crime in america we really dont the numbers are way down as a matter of fact so the numbers are crime way down but the number of hiring of Police Officers is way up ok so if we say we want to be able to attack whatever nefariousness in our society we want people to be better we want to create better citizens we want to create noncriminals you start at the beginning you dont start out on the back them but if you were to turn on c. N. N. Or an assembly see or fox news right now they would tell everything to the george floyd incident without looking outside of that the danger with that is that we will then think that oh they just passed a new policy that says youre no longer allowed to use that chokehold ok everything is solved no everything is not solved because the underlying problems. Thats still an underlying problem and until we attack that route were essentially going to continue to have these situations. The major demonstrations over the death of george floyd are being tipped to reach record numbers this weekend in the u. S. In several cities including new york and washington d. C. Protests are well underway d. C. Traffic police have reported up to 6000 in attendance for the demonstration there youre thora he said warned that the protest this could prove to be the largest ever seen in the capital among the countrys biggest race rallies in half a century show little sign of abating the riots and rage largely turned into more peaceful calls for justice and reform is across the story. Downtown near the white house. Dropping volunteers set up stalls to the free food or water in the streets and also. Churches nearby families with small children and people of all ages are taking part in these people brought this we strong criticism of the president. For the treatment of the protests around the country protesters here and in other cities demand that the message be unity to achieve Structural Reforms must be attended. Associated. With isolated. Well to the protests and marches around the world this weekend in whats arguably proving to be the biggest flare up of Global Support for the black lives modern move been since its inception almost 7 years ago driven of course by the killing of tours floyd massive rallies are taking place in big cities including london for thousands of joined racism demonstrations with some clashes being seen. Live to the british capital where hes correspondent in london shiny and she is standing by. Give us the sense there are no as we go into a little evening. When im here outside downing street just in the last few seconds. These are right by downing street and not this current point in time protesters have been kept in and what that means is that theyve been taking. And. You cant. Really tell us of course this is hard to believe. What weve seen the scenes around the evening over the last few hours much more violent. Where they mounted losses and charged 7 towards the demonstrators weve also seen them stepping up with their. Trying to ride them in stages when right now theyve been in a contained things weve seen throughout the day very very peaceful scenes times of thousands of protesters coming to the streets of Central London but now just the last of the parade right person for a mate and they have essentially trapped sense. Now since this incident of george. George. A 90 minute wave of black life protests throughout the course of the last 10 days in america. Being met by bob bennett. Check out some will missing very similar similar if i was a never let me place it or out in their numbers palliated day there were even more violent clashes today. Was thank you thank you thank you. Of course we are reporting here live and i have to apologize for some language that we all want but it doesnt. Sit here on any london of course and comes out just. As a put across the like was in recent years weve seen many many cases from short break weve seen a mob hit a semi to get us to judge but it just really demonstrates how angry people are here today it has londoners argue that the few and the issue in america is not just an american one but also what happens here in the United Kingdom of course such a stick should the link to sadistic show that the b. M. A. Community are full times more likely to experience Excessive Police force against them and their white counterparts many would argue for in the heights of institutionalized racism some would say a stereotypical Racial Discrimination that is absolutely in cranes and thats another reason why protesters are here today i spoke to some of the earlier. Yesterday for like a number of reasons for george floyd because the injustice that happened to him but also because of the injustice thats been happening you know you see before i can even remember still just that like my whole life anyone who suffered under the cosh this is a childs face a great whats the point of saving a whole lot of people from coronavirus. If theyre just going to be shot if it should minorities are going to be shot by police anyway i mean. As for today ill go see it will be our lives now and make it a new way to do it is right that allows people to take to the streets of Central London protesting outside the us embassy protesting on Parliament Square protesting in the hot dog westminster the political scene over the United Kingdom trying to tell those about heads of state that this is not just an american and British Isles yeah that is why as well i did plenty of shots around me all the way from black live matter to no justice no i dont think the usa has no innocent but of course the one that resonates with us all and across the world at the moment is i comprehend the very last words of george freud. Thousands of people have gathered here in alex on the plots in the center of the german capital fold the black lives demonstration here in germany now this isnt the 1st time that weve seen demonstrations in germany certainly not the 1st time even this week on friday big demonstrations of large scale gatherings took place in frankfurt and in homburg what has been worth noting is how peaceful all of these of being the demonstration in hamburg on friday evening was dispersed by police but that was said to be due to the numbers that had gathered in breach of social distancing rules that are in place because of the coronavirus the signs that weve seen around saying white silence equal violence a lot of the faces here at this demonstration in berlin around germany have been white faces coming out to say that they stand with black people here in germany in europe and around the world against what they see as systematic racism against them in fact i spoke to some of those whove come out here to explain why they felt they needed to have they have voiced to the crowd it doesnt matter if its an american or somewhere else in the world we need to go out and we need to show that we are all the same white people and white culture have been have done. Needed to slavery and colonization and imperialist this is why its very important that white people and that people around the world come out i think. Whats changing now is like as you can see that a lot of people standing up and i think the more people stand up the more people of color get a voice and they get a stronger voice and we should all join in that. Well at a political level has also been a response here in germany chancellor Angela Merkel described the killing of george floyd as horrible while admitting that there is racism in germany as well the foreign minister journey heiko must went a step further if he criticized u. S. President donald trump and his decision or his wants to try and unleash the u. S. Military upon his own people. Democrats must never escalate matters not even through words threats and violence only triggers further violence instead of dividing ourselves we should be shoulder to shoulder against radical extremists well as you can hear chants of black lives mattering out here in berlin things incredibly peaceful as people come out to express their anger their dissatisfaction at what theyre seeing with gods to racism here in germany in the United States and around the world is there are a few thousands of people here in years the eiffel tower to protest against their arrest season and police retaliate see and also to demand justice not only for george floyd but also for all the french victims of the Police Brutality that matter how here and now for example even so very so Police Departments are banned the most ration people wanted to come here and to protest peacefully to ask it so the french government are to do some seeing a wheezy and the police and they said that if justice is done done there will be no peace after it was made people turn in their sheer intransitive is no such problem as the usa but i think thats not true but if there was no progress you see then why so many people would protest and you see out of the money should be pushed on this is not just a problem of violence and particularly violence against us as people today we are talking about plans murders the killers because we are black according to the declared International Human rights in sanction in people who are born free and written long ago and this is where weve ended alex black people are still unclear on the street where this is or to internationalise they were 1st for more insight on developments to the protests stateside coming up after this short break. Chose seemed wrong why dont we all just dont all. Get to shape out just they become educated and engagement equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. I know. No shots. Action theres. No. Point should your thirst for action. Quarter of an hour into the Program Welcome back helping or stoking the fire Nonprofit Organization the Nelson Mandela foundation has weighed in on the crisis in America Calling art as they see it the structured targeting of the black community while adding the violence is sometimes the only way to bring about change. When communities are confronted by both resilient structural violence and attacks on their bodies violent responses will occur the use of violence can be rational and carefully targeted as we have seen in south africa during the democratic iraq violent protest is often the result of a careful calculation by communities who have come to see that only such action elicits the desired response from the state meanwhile twitter has been facing questions over why it failed to fly galloper this tweet by slate magazine for the liberal arts violence as quote an important tool for protesters last week twitter took the unprecedented step of removing a tweet by president all trouble for concerns a glorified violence. Hate twitter support does this not glorify violence. There is a fine line between journalism and incitement to riot and i think you just tripped stumbled and face planted rights across it. Lets get into some of those comments on the situation at large the very happy to say that joining us live on the Program Political analyst or 3rd Reese Everson unfunny brian logan a social issues commentator both in the us this hour. We kick off with you just on what we were talking about there the Mandela Foundation sais quote the use of violence can be rational and perfectly targeted and they say it worked at a crucial time in south africa history could work in the u. S. Well im not really sure where this same place there south africa was back then and there are new parts now anywhere close to day rates are going about Police Brutality how big of a problem is that in the black community really is an issue yes but yes i want to look at low sort of low its low when im told. There is use are you talking about black on black values you talk about hypertension diabetes you know those kind of things drug addiction those kind of things are much more serious day in the anger from Police Brutality so. I dont think its to answer at all and really you have been much more around police in 2019. Reese to what extent will the violence that weve seen over the last days and weeks to what extent will the protests actually be detracted from the blocked lives Mother Movement and its message do you think. Anything that a little louder sure im just talking about what weve been seeing over the last few weeks the violence that have a company these protests will not detract a lot overwhelmingly from the message that the bloc lives. Are trying to say theyre. Absolutely not and heres why let me explain something to you when you Start Talking about whats important to the lives of black people and you start to say things like hypertension and high Blood Pressure are more important. Youre making a mockery of the fact that anytime a black person has an encounter with the state in the form of the police that their life their very life is put on the line and they are in the or whether or not theyre going to walk away from that encounter or theyre going to be buried at that moment thats not just a matter of oh well its a matter of my health or or we have other priorities every encounter a black person has with the state in the form of the police could very well in their life thats not a small matter thats not something to be minimized and the violence that we see right now is the response of a people who have said enough is enough is enough is enough and we are tired and we will take no more and so there is no issue when you see the violence because its literally the people speaking up and saying that they cannot continue ok press and have their lives threatened in this way. Comments made matters worse like this is a quote when the looting starts the shooting starts using a direct quote from a very controversial former miami police chief there. Well its a very i mean when you say that people have already been sacked for looting i think it might have been at least 2 people did i get sacked for looting so what he said was just a phase when the looting starts to shooting stars youre going to protect your property youre going to protect yourself and a lot of the black businesses are being looted and a lot of black people are firing back at the black and white whatever color they are socalled protesters earlier its areas that are looting new businesses ok im seeing all kind of stories all over the nation up there minneapolis you go. There trying to start a sports bar you get black folks and their socalled pro days didnt really just a story in their bar or in a china save were black comin over the care these people dont carry their values people who are engaging in violence dont care about black lives matter they dont care about george slowly they dont care about anything relating to the black community are going to. Just smash and grab things that. Engage in general chaos all these ballots for no other reason to be so servants of those that are doing the. People are you going to say you know folks when youre hurting black folks with developers it doesnt make any sense. Point the protests are hitting for example black owned businesses in the black Community Hard on things isnt the final and the looting exacerbating an already difficult situation. Lets be clear about one thing there are 3 people that are 3 individuals that you will see present in this experience you will see the protester you will see the riots are and you will see the lunar those are 3 separate characteristics of individual 1st of all the protesters are there to speak up about the issue the writers are there because they have had enough they are emotionally upset overwhelmed whether its because of being in the house for 3 months due to cold it or theyre there personally tied to this matter and theyre really upset about it because of george floyd individually or someone else that they know where they themselves theyve been targeted by Police Brutality and then there are indeed looters now heres the issue very have been videotapes of provocative words coming from outside of local areas that are caught on camera and some of them have been white males that have been covered in blank are coming to neighborhood and harming those neighborhoods and theyre from outside in certain states we had one of the mayor saying that everything will person that was arrested that evening was from out of state so a lot of whats going on is something more so then the actual people who have core giving voice to the issue these are the protesters many of the protests. You know resounds been saying theyre being peaceful or started out at least peacefully or the poll. Least justified being so heavy handed with demonstrators considering the scale of the crime and all during a pun demick locked on some of the machinery the hardware they uniforms that theyre wearing this out not only make a situation that has a ready on tenterhooks so much worse. Well my colleague here to say if i say people come in and try to rabble rouse on to do things that they should be doing ok so they end it mix with those that are there that are trying to be quote unquote peaceful so theyre sort of police have to have a strong presence theyve got to have a uniform theyve got to have their equipment theyve got to be orange because youre going to have valleys from these outside forces and also the inside forces so i had a certain point kind of hard so if you found 1000 and a dude was out there in the street some more peaceful some are violent some are louis some are shooting you cant really do so youve got to have the police out there for everyone to assure everyone safety because lets be clear not for 2 police being now youre trying to calm the situation is down a lot more black labs taken then those that were taken by the looters in the shooters in the rioters and the socalled protesters all the name of george floor all name. Matter if matter alcan to. Race. Do you see anything a by the tragic death of this man being exploited in any way do you see anything in the timing that theres a president ial election coming up we know that the presidency of barack obama was billed as a transitional moment for america we had the same issues didnt we over that time but nothing really was done up by that yeah thats coming to light all of a sudden. Good question. Heres what were not going to do heres what were not going to do we are not going to minimize the fact that several several 100 africanamericans have come in contact with the United States in the form of local police and their lives have been extinguished because i mean were not going to minimize that we are not going to allow anyone to bring up things a buildings being burned or stores being destroyed were not going to allow that to be brought up as something thats of equal parity ok were not going to allow anything to be brought up to say that its more important than the lives of my child or your child or any other black person in america coming into contact with the state and being so state sanctioned murder execution hanging or whatever the term is you honor and a lynching were not going to allow its happen you know what here is the thing about a. B. L. If it were your sister if it were your brother what would be too many and so at this point weve had hundreds of black people come in contact and have state sanctioned murders and weve said enough is enough one was enough wet this why were were at hundreds were i literally over 400 weve reached a Critical Mass or injury pattern. Go ahead on something weve had over in the last get cup you. Go every sunday no im to go ahead you can reply. Ok i dont know what the no no i mean when you start with the wilmington insurrection the red summer tulsa race riots what weve had our state sanctioned 100 years ago what are we talking about 20 years ago or right now its only 2100 years ago yet ill bet theres its also 121 lets say current day care and it got about as they know right now i said about whats going on right now that were talking about would happen if we met through because every 100. Weve had hundreds of people lose their life and their liberty recently now is it because attack is it is it more prominent because its during an Election Year you know this has been happening for hundreds of years for black people any time blacks have economically empowered themselves or politically empowered themselves or just been doing too well in this country there has been a blowback there has been. Were just running out of time i want to just i want to get your fine thanks rhys i just want to get your final thoughts both of you because it has been a spirited debate. Just starting with you do you see any any hope for whats happening there that it might bring a point i kind of radical change that even though its messy and its graphic at the moment that something good might come out of it. No i dont see anything good that can come of the i think whats happening now theyre trying to defund the police or what they say theyre trying to break apart the police thats going to be the wrong thing because and the black community a lot of these poor low income communities the police are the last bastion of folk but these people that are trying to do they dont care if theyre black on black murder rate quadruples they dont really care as long as they can say oh well there was no Police Involved shooting of a black person they dont care is the. Homicide number go to 70000 a year to 25000 they dont get it because you know solomon sometimes im exactly. Yes yes there is less not played a game you get 30 percent of the population half of murders and half of murderers lets not played a game race the final 20 seconds to you. The last the bottom line is is that right now there is an insurrection in this country and we have to be careful about the words that are used when its black people its rioters and looters when its been people who are trying to bring change its been called insurrection rebellion thats where we are right now this is a Critical Mass people are standing up this is a real insurrection and people are trying to make a change in the country in the way that we are police so that Police Brutality does not snuff out another innocent life another unarmed man woman or child thank you both for a very interesting discussion youve both got your points across very eloquently political analyst or 3 severson and the brian logan social issues commentator thank you. Thank you thank. You. All right time for the latest report to get going in moments moxon states youre standing by over here after the shortest of the bricks. Join me every thursday on the alex island shore and ill be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you then. Max keiser this is the kaiser apart so much to report on so much happening so much going on in the world today america is on fire the worlds on fire its a global insurrection against banker occupation weve been talking about it for years now its happening all over the world. Give me your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free