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Corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or im a bit loose shilohs. 5th of june but the one business show you cant afford to methamphetamine to stay open in washington coming up the Senate Banking committee question a 2 top ranking officials on a 2 trillion dollar relief package causing some stocks to slip but Video Conferencing serve at those have become extremely popular but how things are they and which one is best to use will discuss on a panel later show for you today. The less so and i write this. The World Economy faces a potential lengthy coronavirus recovery london based i. H. S. Market said it expects the Global Economy to shrink 5. 5 percent this year now thats triple the damage from the 2008 financial crisis and a new report by the World Economic forum surveying risk managers is now suggesting this will be a long lasting global recession a contraction for the next 18 months managing director of the World Economic forum saudia he said the crisis has devastated lives and livelihoods it has triggered an economic crisis with far reaching implications and revealed the inadequacies of the past meanwhile on tuesday taiwan said it was disappointed and angry with the w. H. O. For not inviting the country to join this years world health assembly. The ministry of Foreign Affairs expressed deep riddle and strong dissatisfaction that the World Health Organization secretary has yielded to pressure from the Chinese Government and continues to disregard the right to health of the 23000000 people of taiwan. Taiwan has been lobbying to join after it was able to contain the corona Virus Outbreak the country is now relying on its own efforts for production of a vaccine this comes as u. S. President donald trump tweeted out a letter he sent to the head of the World Health Organization highlighting some serious concerns over the response will he also threaten to permanently cut off its funding if the w. H. O. Does not commit to some major a substantial improvements within the next 30 days Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson criticized that move. But winning the. Open letter of the us leader is full of language like maybe and it tries to mislead the public in this plausible way to. Ensure control issues the trick the us has responsibility for. This is. Meanwhile the taking new measures to enforce its citizens follow their restrictions while those who host parties will be fined around 2700. 00 attendees will be fined half of that and those not wearing a mask will those could be fined 800. 00 more countries in europe plan to open their borders france and germany proposed a 500000000000. 00 Euro Recovery Fund now this would offer the e. U. Commission some grants for the sectors and regions that have been most affected with coated 19 the plan however has not yet been approved in the u. S. Is also working on more stimulus the 2 trillion dollars from the krona virus act Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell and treasury secretary steven minucci and appeared before the committee on tuesday and how the 2 have been outspoken about their opposing views on edition from where we are joined by r. T. Correspondent Rachel Blevins rachel what came out of the fiery hearing this morning well this marks the 1st time that Administration Officials were questioned about the results of the 2. 00 trillion dollars kerrys act and it was also the 1st Senate Hearing that was held remotely for social distancing purposes the treasury secretary steven minucci and was questioned about a recent report which found that very little of the 500000000000. 00 that was meant to be used as a loans for business was a local government has been used yet and he claimed they still plan to spend the money they just havent done it yet but he was also asked about i qs ations that the government has prioritized helping major corporations while smaller businesses have been left to suffer here was his response to. Companies such as boeing that i had expected would need to borrow from us on a direct basis were able to borrow 25000000000. 00 in the primary markets so i would say in the best Case Scenario the markets open up and we dont need to use these facilities in the case of main street facility the minister will society which we expect both to be up and running by the end of the month we expect these to have a big impact on both those markets now that main Street Lending program that he referred to was a 600000000000. 00 program that is supposed to help smaller and midsize businesses that have an eligible for previous programs but even though its supposed to be up and running by june its still not clear exactly when those businesses will get the funding they desperately need plan thats a problem what these these Small Business loans as well there were businesses that were still in the application process and those businesses who are basically now having to declare bankruptcy are no longer going to reopen because of this now were also seeing these record unemployment numbers numbers we havent seen since the Great Depression how did officials respond to concerns about americans being able to provide for their families thats right well more than 36000000 americans have filed for unemployment down began and members of the Senate Banking committee expressed concerns about how those who are no longer getting a paycheck will still be able to pay their bills now in response to that Federal Reserve shared powell said that the focus right now should be on getting americans back to work take us know what he had to say a long periods of unemployment. And really affect peoples ability to go back to work because they lose their networks they lose skills it was contact with the job market so i think anything that people. Intact is probably. In their job but in the meantime keep them out of solvency and things like that if should that should the expansion take start leader or take take longer to get going. Its also important to note that according to the latest reports an estimated 44 percent of the americans who have fallen for unemployment recently are either still waiting on those benefits or they have been denied it all together and thats not even the end of this rachel were going to see probably a higher number of these unemployment as business as more businesses begin to close i know pauls been pretty vocal about getting the fed to do whatever it takes he said not considering a negative rate but like kristie mentioned yesterday that as long as these investors are looking to buy and continuing to buy because the fed will be there to support them then theres really not much for them to do and theres only one way from here are to correspondent rachel love and thank you thank you. For more analysis on this on the markets we turn to boom bust cohost christine and Todd Horowitz chief strategist of the trading thank you for joining me today. Christy riverdance chrystia lets start with with stocks right there pretty mixed following the testimony that we just spoke to rachel about retail earnings are in focus for the week what are we seeing there. Well i think with retail just like tex youre getting a mixed bag an Earnings Call to try to put a positive optimistic spin on every single story so today you have examples like home depot sales were stronger than expected growing about 6. 4 percent your rear but profits were still down due to a virus or a cost so the pandemic has changed customer Shopping Patterns and added additional labor and safety costs for the company as a had to supply extra sanitation products and limit the number of customers in the store at one time it also had to expand its cost of labor as an employee incentives in order to keep workers coming in during the pandemic so shares are trading down about 2 percent for the day and walmart also traded down 2 percent even though at initial glance it had been expectations by a long shot and same store sales jumped by 10 percent in the 1st quarter due to courting goods and Consumer Discretionary products however it withdrew its Financial Outlook for the year saying that the virus pandemic created unprecedented variability so even though its sales grew cost also grew as a result as more employees need to be staffed in order to help clean the stores stock shelves and most importantly fulfill online orders so it was also announced today during earnings that it would discontinue jet dot com and phase out the brand completely so while walmart did gain off the back of econ throughout this entire coronavirus pandemic as everybody was Online Shopping rather than going to the stores that segment of the business has still yet to turn a profit and walmart is still actively trying to broaden its online sales beyond groceries and its still heavily behind amazon delivery i know that the report mentioned u. S. Ecommerce sales were up 74 percent but their apparel hadnt been doing as well but much like you said its more about the groceries and essential that they offered todd i want to get this question and lets turn to the Energy Complex our Oil Prices Finally stabilizing or are we seeing just a plunge into xperia rolls again. Well i think when you really see that the economy is starting to pick up again youre getting the. I mean open youve got the producers cutting on supply so were starting to burn through some of the glut that we had which will bring in higher prices i mean again were certainly a far way away from where we were on both sides but you know as you get the economy rolling you get people driving again you get Companies Working theyre going to consume fuel and thats of course going to keep prices going higher and i think youre probably reached about the pinnacle of where theyre going to go for now because again we still have many issues that are not being addressed but the initial sell off was probably too big which brings us back to probably a mid point where we are no one that demand is definitely going up as more economies and begin to reopen kristie now focuses gradually shifting from the coronavirus its going back to geopolitics as we figured it might the rising tension right now is between the United States and china and other countries in the middle where if theyre playing the game later the blame game that is whats going on there. Well recently through the market kind of float recently our optimism that todd just said on the optimism that were going to get a reopening. Or madonna vaccine will save us all or most of all the power in the fed pledge unlimited support and unlimited and well for risk assets and dollars at the floor in the market but now as you just mentioned the one thing to do you love this entire rally this entire hope trade is basically the relationship between us and china which has been deteriorating so right now the hostility of the accusation continues new restrictions on Semiconductor Chips in an attempt to cripple falling now we talked about this last week how they come with department is completely over been itching to prevent any chip maker foreign or domestic that uses any sort of American Technology at all from supply weiwei without their approval so the end game of all this is to try to force supply chain out of china supply chains and logistic efficiency that has taken over a decade to build up now wash. Actions toward china are becoming increasingly hostile which the latest move today being the nasdaq tightening up their i. P. O. Rules and restrictions and making it harder for chinese stocks to list now this is especially significant because it really is the huge amount of capital flow between the 2 nations and we spoke about this yesterday when it when this news came out while we said it will struggle if these u. S. New sanctions remain in place costing the company billions of dollars i mean it is possible and that relationship between United States and china is definitely getting worse but todd can the u. S. Completely decouple from china they rely is so much on the manufacturing what would be that cost what would it look like and what are the consequences that these businesses are are going to eventually face. Well i think 1st of all d i think that weve got too much stuff with china and especially if you look at our drugs and things like that i think thats a problem im happy that were pulling away there and i think that look i believe that we should be able to be selfsustaining what came what it came down to over the years was it was cheaper to go to china but i think cheaper comes at a cost and i think youre seeing those cost short break now with a lot of the issues that were having now whether you believe china or not let the virus out on purpose i have no idea but my point is very simple that we should not have our core items over in china like drugs and things like that because we need to have those and when you have to depend on somebody who might be an adversary or an enemy at some point its hard to have your lives determined by what they do so i think that again itll hurt some companies but the bottom line is prices will rise which is fine i mean i think most americans would not mind paying a little bit more i think that Companies Got spoiled using china by having much bigger Profit Margins let me as you know they i dont think its that big of a deal and i think we can certainly survive it will thrive without china if that if it ever comes to that i mean they are saying a lot of analysts experts are saying this is a temporary. But in the long run it doesnt matter because staying in china will be more Cost Effective because while americans eventually want to do these jobs for a cheaper cost. Well i think that americans will be happy to get more jobs here i think itd be nice to have higher paying jobs back here i think one of the things weve missed out over the years is weve gone totally into a Service Sector and we dont have those manufacturing jobs we dont have those jobs that help people that need those types of jobs i mean you know weve got all types and you cant hire everybody at mcdonalds or walmart there are jobs that could be here that we could certainly flourish from and have more of the population participate in these jobs and make a good living i think what originally happened is that we got to priced out and we kept giving raises and unions got too much involved as a story for another day but the end of the day if you brought in fair reasonable wages here the cost variance would not be is big as anybody might think when you count in shipping duty time and all of the other things that go on so i think that the more you can manufacture in america the better off youre going to be well well see about that and what the next move like President Trump has wanted to bring jobs back to america well see how that plays out west coast christiane and todd are with the trading thank you for your time today thank you. Time now for a quick break but hang here because when we return with more people working from home and using online Video Conferencing services how much more vulnerable are we getting how actually well discuss with the best cohost spence on and fiber security analyst morgan right now as we go to break here the number is at the close it was. My. Sleep. Let. You are no fan speed you no longer a young woman in fact you are one of the last living survivors of the nazi else asked im aware of it. Leverage debt all you like. And you can never forget it maybe you can now auschwitz was really like to be in hell because you would never believe it wasnt a human can do to as a copy of a course for 30 years im open to the contrary of it it all seems so a lot offered by this i might make it to get it right when i get out on the farm saw you dont want to take my son to their next meal so he can listen and hopefully bless god heard. Mode. One else truths seem wrong why dont we all just dont hold. Any new world to be yet to shape out these days to come to advocate and in gains from an equal betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. Its no surprise that online Video Conferencing Services Like zoom and skype have seen a massive increase in users over the past few months well weve reported on it extensively but how safe is it to communicate through these systems plus were learning more today about new powers handed to the f. B. I. When it comes to your browsing history a lot to get to on this subject so joining us now is my great internationally recognized expert on Cyber Security strategy cyber terrorism and advanced technology and he was cohost an investigative journalist on gentlemen thank you for joining me today. Ben lets start with you can you give us a little bit of an idea here on what were seeing in terms of the services. Yes so theres services that have existed for some time than others that are popping up that are fairly new Everybody Knows what zoom is at this point if you didnt know what the zoom was before coronavirus started you definitely know what it is now obviously its a video communication tool thats used now zoom is a little bit different than what some people had originally thought it was it was originally designed for work spaces its now being used for classrooms and other ins it was supposed to be in the in the encrypted but turns out it wasnt then theres Microsoft Microsoft or something called Microsoft Teams thats more of a workflow system its probably closer to slack if you know what that is than it is to zoom you have google that now has something called google meet used to be hangouts rim or Google Hangouts but who uses Google Hangouts nobody does so its now a google meet the more interesting one to me though is the real competitors zoom in my opinion is this new Facebook Messenger rooms that facebook is pushing which is a system that allows more for this kind of online social gathering to 50 people within a messenger chat room or a Video Conference room its not designed so much for work or for telecom you need as it is for kind of a hang out with friends but facebooks really pushing it hard and it seems like theyre pushing it just in time to kind of ride the wave of this telecommute they did they did just launch it about a month ago so theres a reason for that but morgan in terms of security now people like. Skype they use so many of these Services Available how do we know which one is better which one is safer at this point to use that claim to have and 10 encrypt we have since learned that its not true well when it comes to privacy or security what are the options are better than others which is a safety. Well the safest one to use is the one that you apply the security controls that you have it your hands by the way of zoom did release version 5 and i use him alive it is now fully encrypted in so and they actually if zoom will tell you to if you go look at the literature at the end of the month if you have an upgrade they will force the upgrade so pretty soon everybody is going to have to have the navigation what has happened before sure that the recent weve got the zoom bombing and the other stuff is people just didnt realize when overnight we basically had to shift the sitar workforce or being inside a building to now overnight weve become a virtual workforce we had gaps in policy we had weaknesses in security and one of the weaknesses was people to take advantage of sayings like you know making sure that the invites for resume were private they would post a lot of these links on. Like City Councils would Message Boards we saw it with kids so no matter which one years you know its going to be as there is no such thing as the safest platform everything is going to have its issues no matter every fortune 50 every fortune 100 company has been breached period so the one that this is the safe one is the one where you get familiar with it you understand what it does and what it doesnt do most vulnerable it is most in its incidents happen not because of what the software does its because of what the user didnt know it did and they did turn on 2 factor authentication or turn on like the zoom the meeting room so whether youre using messenger or skype. Ive used all of these extensively the best one is the one you use to sunil your eyes yourself with and you turn on the security features so make sure those watching at home they make sure to look up the thudding to see what they will and will not allow i mean they will probably had no idea they were going to become what they have become now so im not sure that they they have been at least trying to work on this but more again in terms cyber criminals have adapted their ransomware tactics now during this pandemic making them more vulnerable setting some of their malware to to launch more quickly once inside these networks for example Health Care Providers and even other companies according to the security expert that is whats the reason for this and why have the criminals changed these tactics. Its the age old thing menu follow the money and these guys are following the money rather than x. Filtering data on one of my rules on chief security advisor for central one we have been tracking this issue globally and were seeing the increase in philosophy of attacks why because the money is in the places where there is critical Information Health care is probably one of the top targets Research Labs places that have information about vaccines or research thats going on rather than exfiltrate ing the data and say hey were going to expose this you know his money theyre just saying were locking everything up and if you really want this data which they do then you better pay us so were seeing a change in tactics and the other thing to serve going back to what i said previously about this whole transition to work from home were seeing a lot more people being targeted at home and targeted in a variety of ways than they would be normally inside the enterprise environment because now work is no longer something a place you go its something you do and were doing it from all sorts of places and home with distractions and other things were seeing an increase in these things happening at home why because people arent used to the Work Environment yet for those who have been working inside an office for a long time so well see a lot of these tactics keep evolving but right now because a covert theyll keep using fear uncertainty and doubt in exploiting anxiety to get their way a lot of the hacking going on right now but then speaking of Security Issues interestingly the United States senate has now agreed to give Law Enforcement agencies access to web browsing history data without even needing to obtain a warrant 1st what does that mean for us that if that if. Its very bad news for u. S. Citizens its it was actually 3 amendments that were going before the senate in order to kind of strengthen privacy and really there was a really good shot that this was going to these amendments would actually pass there were 3 senators who didnt show up to vote been sasse of nebraska you have Bernie Sanders did not show up to vote and there was a 3rd senator who had actually said that she would vote for patty murray said that she would go for these amendments but they didnt show up and so we actually saw this fail by one vote what this ultimately means is that the f. B. I. And cia can essentially access your browsing history and they can search your i. S. P. History they are able to basically take all that information and they dont need a warrant they dont need the presumption of a crime being committed they dont need to know that you were doing something nefarious they just can access it at any time now a lot of people would look at that and say but why would they unless you were doing something wrong the problem is is that thats not how the constitution is is designed its not designed to say it only protects people at the moment when they might need it or only protect people who are doing good things the constitution is there to provide protections for all of us and checks and balances for Law Enforcement and this is just another example where the patriot act over the last 20 years continues to expand and to take away those basic fundamental Constitutional Rights but this is kind of a big one its a huge one like you said especially without a warrant because before this they would actually need one more again since the beginning of this Global Pandemic marketplaces on the dark web theyve seen a rise in coven 1000 related products and services for example sought after the and 95 mask these gowns the gloves and even the drug chloroquine in which theyve all been listed on these marketplaces why are people flocking to the dark web to get these products and can they trust the gear that theyre getting. No i dont trust anything that comes off the dark you have remember the dark web only exists because of bitcoin being able to of provide a way to monetize silk road the original silk road where theyre selling guns drugs explosives all sorts of things. Im telling you right now the the dark well theres only a very few things that go on the dark web you got to remember that dark web actually tore in the browser this was actually rigidly invented by the Naval Research laboratory it was designed for human rights activists and for a military to be able to communicate securely it was a very small d. Its actually still not very big its a pinhead you know in a world of you know thousands and thousands of parents but the people who use this theres a lot of people who go there to try and get information weve seen things like blood trying to be sold weve seen things like you say like well i have the vaccine or ive got certain kinds of information fortunately it takes a little bit of effort for you know to prevent these things to happen youve got to do a lot of work to actually get on the dark web you have to download the browser you have to understand how it works and how to go searching for these things but you know its just basically the dark web is just like going down a dark alley in the middle of the night in a country youre not familiar with it you get unless you fully know what youre doing youve got no reason to be there so dont trust that when it comes to to getting all of these the equipment no and unless you know what youre doing you wont be able to get on there as he said at the jail very that there is well that was been left coast investigative journalist pencil on and were going right Cyber Security analyst and chief the kerry advisor president and all one thank you so much for your time tell me. You dont get to see. That for this time you can catch him bust on demand on the brand new card will t. V. Ads on from are found to be catching on you tube dot com slash boom bust r. T. The next time. The collapse of the russia game has exposed yet again the unprofessionalism bias of the corporate the game the. Project their values to. The truth are conspicuously in the newsroom morning. 54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to air force base in alaska where is that to say come on ill show you whats the reason for any type of enhanced u. S. Military presence in this area rush up. What is it suddenly about the South China Sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. Take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have Nuclear Weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so thats why were going to drill down on this story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly its time to do news again. During the vietnam war u. S. Forces. There in laos it was a secret war. For you. As the American People do not know. How much. Katherine bouton country per capita. Human history millions of unexploded bombs still in danger lives in this Small Agricultural country. We dont think its happening. Even today kids in laos fall victim to bombs dropped decades ago is the u. S. Making amends for that tragedy and. Help to the people need in that little land on. Welcoming our viewers from around the world live from Central London this is all to u. K. The British Government is on the far off to cope with 19 patients were discharged into care of those with proper testing this is the Prime Minister is forced to commit to an effective track and Trace Program by the 1st of june. British politicians look to hold calling for advice on the care home crisis of to the region recorded 0 deaths ill be talking to a professor of social care of Hong Kong University. Plans to reopen Primary Schools in june and face a growing backlash with at least 18 councillors and 1500 schools are adamant gates will remain shot we hear from a councillor opposed to the governments approach. And also the British Government backed away from a pledge to remove grenfell style clarity from told go by next month system urges the car into the fall will not resume until july at the earliest. The Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition of clashed over the governments response to covert 90 in care homes thats after the justice secretary admitted there was a focus on the old Service Rather than the homes of the beginning of the pandemic or take a shot it was dusty joins me with the latest here in the studio shot at follow works then in the house of commons over absolutely the Prime Minister Forrest Johnson and leader of the opposition battled it out in the commons during todays Prime Ministers questions it was a lively session to say the least because. The kids accused number 10 of being particularly ignorant to the facts regarding care home and testing we know that care homes have long been the epicenter of blunders and a lot of criticisms towards the government about the handling of cattle specifically at last week Boris Johnson he. He had admitted that actually really there was a bit of a at discrepancy in what the words of the government was saying when it comes to cat homes today a very similar situation as a kid stalin launched this evening at talk about why care homes are still not routinely able to access the level of testing that it should be able to do and this is the reaction from the Prime Minister. Last friday the Health Secretary said the right from the start weve tried to throw a protective ring around our care homes but caused quite a reaction yesterday it was flatly contradicted by the chief executive of caring board he was giving evidence to Health Select committee and he said we should have been focusing on care homes from the start despite that this is evidence despite what is being said there were cases of people who either didnt have a covert status or were symptomatic or discharged into our care homes actually the number of patients disjoint from hospitals into care homes it was 40 percent down in march on gender at the gardens was changed to reflect the change in the epidemic in that gardens was made available to cairns and of course since the care homes action plan began we have seen a Strong Production in numbers of deaths in care homes we question was whether people would test people were tested going back into care homes already 125000 care homes staff have been tested 118000 i actually didnt know that was because 118000 workers have been tested. Well today the justice secretary admitted that the n. H. S. Had been prioritized over kathryns particularly when it came to testing at the start of the current a Virus Outbreak due to the limited capacity. We needed to make a choice about testing and we did decide to focus on the n. H. S. I think the issue with care homes is that weve got many thousands of different providers different sectors. Thats quite a big moment really then from a cabinet minister one of the strongest admissions that mistakes had been made at the beginning of the outbreak here across the United Kingdom though the justice secretary did add on to that theres no question that no country across the world really would be able to say that mistakes have not been made. And show to the Prime Ministers been boxed into another deadline well Boris Johnson had to provide some reassurances today particularly regarding the test track and tracing strategy and it was an important commitment made by the Prime Minister and he said that hell get it all up and running by june the fats now Boris Johnson said the system would be well meeting and particularly said it would involve 25000. 00 trackers today those kids stomach launched another scathing attack into the Government Regarding the lack of truck in testing since the middle of march despite 2000000 tests havent been carried out theres been no effective trace him in place since march the 12th when tracy was abandoned thats nearly 10 weeks in a critical period without affecting tracing. Also a huge hole in our defenses is a Prime Minister but by the 1st of june already weve created 24000 tractors and by the 1st of june we will have a 25000 they will be capable of tracking to new contact of 10000 new cases a day so were making vast progress in testing and tracing and i had great confidence that by july 1st we will have a system that will enable us oho post very great to defeat this disease. So that bars johnson saying that he will try and get all this up in running by june the 1st by the way that is the date that the government has also suggested there might be a move a potential move into the next phase of this lockdown bar trying to ease some of the restrictions being put in place we know that june 1st is also the date that some Primary School children will be headed back to school there will be a reopening of some non essential shops to the have been concerns from councils and unions that its far too soon to do so particularly because there hasnt been a successful test track and trade system being put in place and is already up and running interestingly though in todays pm queues there was no real mention of the up system even though a few weeks ago matt hancock said that the op which would be at the heart of this scheme would be up and running by the middle of may here we are now and theyre still saying its a few weeks away so potentially there are questions at this point being phrase that this could be another selfimposed deadline by the government that could be a struggle to meet. Shadier thank you very much indeed for all of that its politicians are looking to hong kong for advice on controlling the spread of coronavirus in care homes after it recorded 0 deaths from code 19 in its institutions and down in hong kong has largely been eased after recording a total of 24. 00 deaths from the Virus Outbreak the region employed strict measures and treat of the pandemic like sans the virus that hit in 2003 on kong Nursing Homes themselves simulate a Pandemic Response plan up to 4 times a year or more on this im not joined by professor terry lamb head of social care policy at Hong Kong University who gave evidence to m. P. s here in britain yesterday. Terry thank you very much indeed for joining us why has britains response to the crisis in care has been such a failure compared to whats happened in hong kong. I think hong kong was here. And people in kolkata are really. Not all will be sensitive in terms of if theyre used in the terminal outbreak at nearby so they would put on our gear to get them out so i think it really has been we learned a very quick last word absence out there are more than. Capable people are over that and also we have a star kid on die so i think dulce informix b. V. Us deal you know and you know my a lots of people so once we heard that you know were on i want everything if you want to get rid of return of our requests in tell of tragedy facts are out there why were sun coming to kill so you learned a huge amount from the sars outbreak of course here the u. K. Model was based on influenza flu which is very different than. Yes you know in each sars are along to our. To begin with so when it has outbreak 1st eat out it was in the hospital but where is it jumps on hospital care home so i think what we learn is the 1st one i often found is to stop the chance we start from hospital to 2 to a care home so our once we known date was. Out when we have the 1st taste of hong kong eat on january 23rd. To have a good parent to document using breath here for a sound of our day gives there will be a low Long Hospital we stayed for older people in care home so instead all that can lead to medical needs to be taken care of by a piece of think about it without that to the care home and then the government also allow all that heat up to get the medication we see in that without seeing if these stop or transmutes are far hospital to town and then they also did a very good job to conquer our people with an investor in to answer it was which with a lack of air pressure and so that we can probably tap paysan outside outside i saw reason wrong so i think we saw it there was no outbreak and there was actually a lot. Of sunlight here Work Health Care work on to the question is all those measures you talking about and how you dealt with this could we have done exactly the same as that in britain. I dont see any reason you k. Cannot you know if we can what we did i think it is not happy doesnt it has lots of you know. In fact it is more up peppery son. Korea guy and i and people are really serious doubts are you know out what they are doing in term of the hygiene practices in terms of put on protective gear in terms of using face muscles are spare us in terms of stopping that transmitter from hospital to tail. Those are not expensive items and also i get i thought ok but just one final thought here is staggering isnt it 4 deaths in total in hong kong 0 in homes is astonishing considering how close the region is to the source of the outbreak they sadly so answer we are really worried at the beginning because we are waiting weeks to ones out which tests that can last just longer start each china so if you take a bus from trying not to point wants out there are going to left an hour and each year we have more than 60000000. 00 people travel from beach not from china to hong kong so the chance of getting out of it heels so easy and that we use and why people are particularly not. Us read through it so see without doubt you know our stock and go to town so ill go again. Professor terrorism thank you very much indeed for talking to us live here on our to u. K. You know we have an. Unknown update on how corona virus is affecting the u. K. N. H. S. England has reported today 166 hospital fatalities in the past 24 hours the scottish 1st minister has confirmed to have been 50 deaths across all settings wells has reported a further 14 northern and 5 scottish 1st minister said homelessness should remain a priority after the lockdown after extra efforts were made to temporarily hols rough sleepers when it began meanwhile the welsh Education Minister has ruled out schools returning on the 1st of june saying they will open when it is the right thing to do and one of belfast long standing golf clubs has received a boom in new applications after courses open for the 1st time in weeks. Now the global figures for you and the number of confirmed cases approaching 5000000 thats according to Jones Hopkins university which collects worldwide data more than 323000 lives have been lost and i for 1700000 recoveries have now been made or tensions of reach boiling point in the chilean capital when the trees had to break up protests over Food Shortages and surging unemployment caused by the lockdown china has decided to reverse some of its relaxation for the 100000000. 00 people in the northeast region back in lockdown and so much European Countries are noting wrong is in post lockdown infections including israelis spain and germany it comes as the w. H. O. Warns europe not to underestimate the possibility of a 2nd wave. Still to come. The Government Faces resistance from councils to reopen Primary Schools in england in june hear from a councillor opposed to the planned. To be pushed government backed away from a close call cladding from the top spot your life as it emerges the car into the fall will not resume until july. And britain considers an extra bank holiday later in the year as lock down and travel restrictions bring the countrys Tourism Industry. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe from. Isolation community. Are you going the right way or are you being less. Direct. What is true what is faith. In a world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or a made in the shallowness. You cannot be both with the yeah you like. Join me every thursday on the alex simon show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business im show business ill see that. The return to School Next Month for some peoples is facing further resistance as over a 1000 schools across england plan to keep their doors shot with Council Backing the government has insisted children are low risk and need to resume their education starting with reception year one and us 6 from the 1st of june. The best way of protecting children the best way of giving them the best opportunities in life is actually to have them coming back into school and this is a very small tentative step in what i believe is the right direction despite williamsons comments at least 18 councils across england have said they will defy the governments order meaning up to 1500. 00 Primary Schools will remain closed include a swathe of labor and independent run councils across the north of the england including at liverpool all leeds and the bradford promise schools in birmingham will also remain closed but so will schools in tory run council such as neighboring sun hall as well as essex one of london redbridge along with barking and dagenham of the 1st bars in the capital to keep gates shut Mary Jo Anderson says he wasnt prepared to put pupils or teachers lives at risk well before the levels of this infection. That im not about risks with children with stock. Professionals lives. It had been suggested that noncompliant councils could face financial penalties or legal action from the government but when asked on the possibility of sanctions for rebellious councils number 10 said it was working in a consultative manner to ensure schools were reopened safely we are preparing for the possible opening of schools for more children from the 1st of june at the earliest but that will only happen if its safe to do you say but we do also have to bear in mind the harm which can be done to children by missing out on important education you can see what the focus of our attention is at the moment which is trying to work with them in a consultative way in order to be able to open schools to more peoples in a way that is say yes. We want to survey has found that 80 percent of parents said that they wouldnt send their children to school if they reopen in june on safety grounds while 6 in 10 say they wont send the kids in until the new Academic Year in september at the very earliest counsel Adam Wilkinson from called their home in West Yorkshire said that they simply dont have confidence in the government so specific create where not confident that the truck contrasting system that the government has spoken about is adequately in place our guy will be by the festive chain when not confident that the rev infection luckily is under control i. Had late were not confident that there wouldnt be a 2nd he came in that should 6 should schools return are the best to where the governments 60 counts and wilkinson also told us that schools reopening elsewhere in europe have already run into problems. It is true that as a European Countries are doing it but theyre at different points. In terms of weapon of infection became prevalent in akron trade i think its also important that we learn lessons in france where they have had schools go back about a week arts here ago and theres been at least 70 cases written in schools. Where the has been in action and i think that very quickly having said it to learn to deal with the situation and thats the exactly its all thing that we want to avoid having called it that we also have to realize that all of our schools are very different they have different quantities of pupils they do have different cohorts and ages that you are may also have very different buildings in terms of the design and the ability to adapt the way that that work. The British Government has backed away from a deadline for the removal of grenfell style clothing from all tool buildings as the 3rd anniversary of the fire approaches efficient inquiry blamed the flammable cladding on the tower in west london for the rapid spread of the blaze back in june 2017 last july the Community Secretary published a written statement saying that his expectation is that building owners should complete remediation by june 2020 other than in exceptional circumstances the secretary also warned of enforcement action if the deadline is missed with the time the state was published there were 327 high rise buildings with the specific item in him composite material clouding over 40 towers were completed during the year but even more buildings were highly flammable cladding would discovered and as a result the total number of high rise buildings with grenfell start climbing is 307. 00 just 20 down from last year the government said that safety of residents is a priority for the minister of housing says that the work takes time. Building owners are responsible for making their buildings say remediation work takes time and must be done safely and properly how long it takes varies according to the individual building depending on the type and extent of the work required says the inquiry into the ground for tar tragedy will resume in july at the earliest the inquiry was halted in march as a result of the pandemic it is focused on the major blaze that happened in june of 2017 and killed 72. 00 people the organizers of said that the timing would depend on the governments advice on social distancing measures. The panel cannot yet make any prediction about when it will be possible to implement limited attendance hearings as this is dependent on when and how government restrictions are lifted and Public Health considerations generally the earliest the Panel Considers it will be possible to resume hearings in july as it is likely to take up to a month to reorganize the inquirys promise is in an appropriate way and to reschedule the witnesses to discuss this further ill be joined by an independent foreign Emergency Planning consultant thats a little later here on r. T. U. K. The minister for the Cabinet Office michael gove has admitted there will be checks on certain goods entering or the land as part of the brics it would all agreements Northern Ireland protocol he made a statement when peace in Parliament Earlier today though will need to be declarations on goods as they move from Great Britain to Northern Ireland but these systems will be electronic and administered by u. K. Authorities weak knowledge however as weve always done but on aggregate and live animal movements it makes sense to protect supply chains and the disease free status of the our involvement has been the case since the 19th century that will mean some expansion of existing infrastructure to provide for some additional new processes for the agriculture and food sector but these processes will build on what already happened the ports what lawn and belfast. The government has consistently denied the checks will be necessary for goods between britain and Northern Ireland checks are already carried out in livestock and other agricultural related goods entering northern and but government that the infrastructure needed for these checks will be expanded the northern on a protocol which allows the profiles to partially remain in the e. U. Single market is set to be implemented by general of next year thats just after the brics a transition period expires to stay with us as ill be discussing this in further detail with the u. P. A. Member of Parliament Jim Shannon thatll be just in about an hour from now. The British Government is considering giving workers an extra day off later in the year as part of a plan to boost Domestic Tourism already ravaged by the virus lock down yesterday the acting c. E. O. A visit to britain told the Digital Culture media and Sport Committee the talks are on the way we could possibly have absolute danger because the industry has sort of lost the benefit of its may actually say thats an idea thats inconsiderate. Lets say around. That because what waynes needs is a is not just generate. But really extend the season this year for the domestic market so that would help. The proposal aims to help get the british Tourism Industry back on its feet especially of course into measures introduced for International Visitors Martin Andrews takes a closer look at how coronavirus has been impacting british tourism the Coronavirus Crisis has had a devastating impact on the economy but will be felt for years if not decades to come but as some sectors begin to reopen very slowly others like tourism remain locked down having already seen the 1st half of 2020 officially cancelled this summer is looking just as our stress we have to be on it but were hoping for a quick and sharp back hopefully starting with Domestic Travel and then hire in smaller groups but really were looking to next year now sadly the government does plan to reopen the hospitality sector but its limited to england for now with the other home nations still telling citizens to stay home and even that its over a month away well its been tough for tourism hit hit 1st and hit how it is and most businesses have 0 cash flow now so what we hope this with the announcement the timeline that we can look see how its housing the conversations start in july and you see and some of the attractions as well but its going to be a slow job type is exactly what the industry doesnt have visit britain says that the u. K. Could expect 22000000 fewer visitors in 2020 a loss of over 15000000000 pounds the sheer living areas from say ives in cornwall to kendall in the late district almost deserted with Restaurants Hotels and Tourist Spots all off limits according to forecasts in the Royal Society of arts and manufacturing one in 3 jobs could be at risk. Those projections are of large job losses in the industry at the moment the office for National Statistics is the way to have 80 percent of people working in the sector furloughed at the moment i think people have a real appetite for traveling at the moment what were going to do is make sure that we can open up as fast as possible but as safely as possible foreign holidays appear to be out of the forseeable future with borders closed to browse have a quarantine measures for travelers so local Tourist Spots do you have a captive audience but the virus is still out there and a big problem could be convincing the public its safe to visit what we see well we ask people what they think about holidays people are very nervous about traveling so its not just this this is a its about stimulates him to feel that its the right thing States Travel government loans and fellow schemes have helped but the money wont last forever and while the beaches and landmarks themselves will enjoy or if the tourists dont return soon many of the businesses that depend on them might never reopen Martin Andrews are to u. 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