Was a crude and sloppy invention to undermine the outcome of a president ial election irrespective of how you feel about the current occupant of the white house it was an attempted coup tellingly the corporate liberal media side with the conspirators. To cross top obama gate im joined by my guest molly dahl in washington and hes a g. O. P. Strategist and in new york we have lionel he is a legal and media analyst all right gentlemen cross up rules in effect that means you can jump in and you can reach it well well well why dont let me go to you 1st up i cant count the number of times youve been on this program weve talked about this hoax called russia gate and now over the last few days well the hocus pocus has been revealed for what it is it was as i said in my introduction it was a sloppy attempt to subvert an election in 2016 election the evidence is overwhelming but right curiously for 3 and a half years we were told that there was enormous evidence that there was a conspiracy but as evidence comes out to point the opposite the contrary the Mainstream Media liberal media tends its not even their own on top of it bar must be in cahoots with russia to your thoughts my friend well. 1st of all as a lawyer what the prosecution is doing regarding general flynn really has something to do with the absence or the presence of any kind of russian involvement what what is the most important is that when ever you have something in which the dread f. B. I. Is called to account remember peter during the days of cointelpro Martin Luther king theres the a pervasive. Involvement of the f. B. I. You would think the prototypically historic liberal media would be on the side of justice would say this is terrific finally a job but dare not because if it is in any way connected with trump if this part of this t. D. s were trying to arrangement syndrome they lose whatever their their philosophy used to be and they just embrace anything to embarrass trump no matter how species the argument is they are media and and power are fused together this time around ok yeah at the hip here when they get me and it in me ask you i mean one of the things i found very serious and im not cherry picking here i think most people would agree then we had over the weekend obama coming out from his man cave under Marthas Vineyard and talking with his cronies which of course it was intentionally meet and hes talking about the clinton case though over the last 3 and a half years how often you see top specifically about politics and policy like that its very very serious made whole on top of that the trumpet ministration was warned about to people as they started their tenure him john room and Michael Flynn and now bomb obamas talking about playing it seems to me in my humble opinion this whole big investigation because if there was no predicate of it for Michael Cohen was invented in the white house and run by the white house and its all coming back were all through time piecing it all together connecting all of the die. And now it seems perfectly clear to me the insurance policy was Michael Flynn and the lovebirds over at the f. B. I. Were keeping the white house in the loop its all coming together what say you yeah you can you can and the dots see where this was going to barack obama has done something what other president s in the past typically havent done once they left office he always inserted himself into the National Discourse hes done this once again were talking about like lynch and its not just talking about it would be different if it were obama regarding about a political candidate hes talking about a case. Where we had an actual investigation hes asserting himself as a legal matter not surprising to me because i believe that type of arrogance is something that rock obama. For quite some time but does. Say yes we know there was there was no rush of collusion to throw the election in favor of dont try we knew that from the beginning its old story to have so many years later were back now we have the realm of revelation that will say well it seems as if that insurance policy that youre talking about really what it is youre in the in what im told me from this is that the attorney general are really looks into it someone needs to be held account recant just happy or retire or resign go to another agency someone has to account for this because this is not the way our system of justice should be set up well the way the media is behaving well never get accountability because were constantly covering up lying we want to jump in go ahead you know theres been an Interesting Development if you want to go into any kind of hash tag. Review which by the way sometimes just telling for the 1st time people are talking about obama gate and it just so happens that at that time at the president reintroduce himself because normally as you know historically president. Well look at george w. Bush he goes off to his doubtless ranch and you aint and that sort of thing but for the for president obama to leave his Marthas Vineyard mance to reintroduce himself at the same time that his left tenant susan rice immediately at the moment before they turned the keys over to the white house said we want to make sure that we dont have any problems with the troubled ministration and russian collusion now what im trying to say perhaps or curiously is that many people are suggesting that for the 1st time because people always stop president s were off limits that they work in new and sometimes officially tacitly expression whatever but isnt it interesting that president obama is coming forward is it as a limited hangout to say im going to come out now and its plain to you my position and then should there be any kind of criminal activity later on perhaps advance he has to cut his retaliation im perhaps making just too labyrinthine but its not far fetched i dont think its far better at all it seems to me you know. The simplest way of looking at this is the most logical way you know ive i dont you know i you know i dont look at how the the media the way they spin it is that its always deflection i mean i just want to get to the straight the straight of it i mean i said in my introduction irrespective of how you feel about the occupant in the white house right now and i really mean that ok because what this is is it that you have a f. B. I. And Justice Department that is a radically out of control i mean even when you look at the the 30 twos lou that the interview with Michael Flynn i mean you know did inspire get him to lie i mean thats not what the f. B. I. Supposed to do theyre supposed to investigate what they believe is a crime they went there without a predicate and thats why it was thrown out but im not a lawyer you know and im not even that smart of the guy ok but this is very simple this is very simple stuff here if there was no predicate you cant do. That i mean even i understand that go mike go ahead i think that you know the media wants to skew everything you know is a simple stuff. Really clears this donald trump began running for president since he 1st went down the elevator that the media was not going to be favorable to dont try and this is what barack obama is doing now and what ill say and ive said this too if you. Go badly its not only for his 3rd reelection that he who is 2nd reelection but he 31st in order for order for jill biden to have any chance and i think hes going to lose the order for you to have any chance barack obama essentially has to cast himself as well here i think once again because joe biden cant do it alone expect groc obama to come out with other comments not just criticizing the phrases the coronavirus the response the coronavirus rock obama is going to be out there campaigning against donald trump so that he by default joe biden it up in the white thats whats happening again theyre going to you know really interesting that hes taking the Michael Flynn case they need to reintroduce that hes not there i mean from my point of view that is our lose lose you know why because biden was in the room our game was in the room so ok i mean hes admitted it and essential is always a bummer so what did you guys talk about and why were you talking about the incoming the actual security advisor from the opposing team and you know sally aides he doesnt understand whats going on how did you get this transcript why are we talking about him i mean theyre letting it out slowly right year and this unmasking line all that well i find really upsetting is that so much of this unmasking happened in the 1st during the transition the 1st few months would be administration which is bellamy would take a leave that is used for political purposes ok and still we. Critics are back here thats what im hoping that attorney general or was finally time and explain to the clearly there is a list of names that have been that have been put together of people that were involved as im asking particularly in the case michael go ahead like one of the new d. N. I. Is going to be looking into this let me phrase especially to our international if you will r. T. And you know we always talk about russia consider russia and they did this heartless mindless soulless well let me tell you about our system the department of justice has as its mandate never to target prosecute if i want to go after you peter is somebody has to come to me and say we have reason to believe that something is going on and then we have us again but i dont follow you unless and until i let me also bring you up to something in my my friends who are have been involved in the representation of lets say certain organized crime fellows when they got to be a little old there was an expression of the court house called the sicilian flu which all of a sudden these people became very very infirm and they needed doctors in wheelchairs and they couldnt testify that the grand jury you know people say you know hes too now. Isnt it funny that the main person who is running for office normally would be disqualified dare i say as being a doctor in dotard but yet can use his a lapse of memory almost as a defense isnt it interesting when he says i dont really remember this im not sure was i there and people are say weve become acclimated to the fact im sorry to say this is not meant as a a slam against those people who are truly mentally infirm but this is a guy who basically says i dont even know where he talked about corn popping these blond hair it i mean he talks about he waxes local wailing about stuff we dont understand so we have this is almost a bad version of veep this is the weirdest situation comedy but its serious in the mean. Time i would just say this i dont know if the American People truly understands that the gravity and the and the evil and major and what this represents because i think were just plain crazy right now looking at me and i know i mean its no wonder its no wonder they dont understand the gravity of it if youre not told about it to go if theres no room for getting out can you be worried ok i mean that this is their this is their utopia have your head in the sand ok you know and this is whats really terrible you know again i want to stay away from you know. Being for or against wrong thats not what this program is about here but if this isnt addressed and if there isnt a remedy its going to happen again all right and somebody needs to be held responsible to make sure that you know door ever do it because the consequences are great last 30 seconds but let it go ahead. That this is something that were going to continue to experience under any Republican Administration so it really doesnt matter that its double trump the media is not favorable to republicans and this is an extension of that so i expect us to see more of these certain stories whether its media covering up suggesting that donald trump said that this was a hoax or not this is what the medias going to continue to do under any republican clout and that good and that creates a lane for all 3 of us are going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on obama gate stay with arching. We go to work you straight home. After all remember to recruit some good you have on Little People where you can keep bar you member i think that i believe we could probably pull him to earth the week i was ready to. Business which was when the president. Was there what i mean you just the un you. Will see ask yourself how are you going to survive how are you going to protect yourself a little bit feel cools off your phone flu go up with the flu in the of local one and if youre in a look at what a few of you do you want to call for as little a little dinner or the full story. By reducing local customers causes or is it going to show them where you got it will be a slave. Using technology where theyve been able to meet x. s peoples private information on a cell phone and see what youve seen if you have crossed thoughts with somebody who is positively coronavirus and if you are if you had a need to be seen your message because ponce is somebody who has tested positive ps you must be in our n. T. That morsi interesting thing. Or. Its a city. Welcome back to crossfire where all Things Considered im here to look after my trip were discussing obama game. Ill do is go back to live here you know little one of the other things lately other dots you know seem to be connecting you know we have adam ships. Witness. Transcripts here and i really dont want to waste a lot of time on it because its always the same answer but if you go from one luminary to the next so listen let me set it up here so you know theyre on c. N. N. And m s n b c and you know its damaging its overwhelming its this its that its treason but then under oh oh. They all said well i didnt see anything i dont know anything i mean this is whats really amazing is that you have these people almost uniformly have a public voice jay i mean the president inserting themselves into a political investigative process goes where during the mother days here but when it when push comes to show when they put their hand on the bible and make taken oh they Say Something very different almost no one in the mainstream wants to talk about that disparity and on top of it it would have been if the program to go further in maybe you 2 should start deleting all of those videos because it makes us a headline oh well a couple of things you know i wish that we could be instrument rated in terms of media and analysis for example an instrument rated pilot in somebody who says i dont need to even see where im going i can look down and say if given this situation plus this we go in this particular course if you were to ask somebody in the Mainstream Media today the Fake News Media to borrow a term what do you think about a president who had someone a successor come tell that president they would say whos the president doesnt matter. To me argue i know they couldnt answer the question ok it was obama oh. Ok well that excuse me i like it was trump. If you cannot see the glaring in collection will disingenuous pap this bunkum and im trying to contain myself but heres my problem i think people have become so habituate so used to so conditioned to these lies they dont recognize anymore they dont react to what its like ok another story another lie and if somebody said i love this be said theres no such thing theres no rule where you cant lie o. T. V. Which is true but i actually heard somebody say well that was in court you can lie on him as d. N. C. Aromas l. S. D. Or if you want it you and i thought to myself do we have to. That huge prescribes. Perjury cant we just tell the truth on this leak now thats where weve got you know it knowing its very interesting to me is that you hear this constant mantra as you know about norms and the rule of law well what norm is that when youre trying to commit a coup against a duly elected president what is normal about that what norms are they referring 2 to that and then the will of the rule of law well i suppose you know barack obama if he did get a degree in constitutional law and im not im not mistaken i mean doesnt it does that if he doesnt understand what his administration and maybe he personally did general flynn i think then he has to turn in his diploma ok because the way things are going this is going to be the most disgraceful presidency of all presidency when you go after the man and the person that was elected behind you that is is that is unconscionable you know and i try to keep my face ok but i mean this is unconscionable behavior and the media is covering up is equally unconscious will go ahead absolutely thats like i said this happens under any under really any Republican Administration and in fact if we had if we really go back and look at how bill clinton behaved when george bush was in office he made out every now only inserted himself with the criticism but its rare that you saw bill clinton coming out publicly its rejecting himself and so when asked look discusses the same thing happened once obama got into office didnt see george w. Bush consequences you know in certain consultants of the National Discourse this is happening because we have a media apparatus that refuses to hold itself account of the things that the media the things that the democrats things that they used to agree with 1st is whether its Something Like order also. They no longer agree with those workers you should respect the office even if you dont respect the person respect the office because thats what we heard oh wait theres a miracle bomb that was thrown out the window doesnt trouble it down the stairs on the election so this is the bunker see those no balance when it comes to the media so it really is up to me its up to us up so i think its up to all of us to really do what we can to counter your narrative because its such a huge huge huge gap in how they treat republicans versus democrats and i think thats the issue not necessarily true it is republican versus democrat liberal versus conservative oh i think its no liberals treat the truth because truth is only necessary or good or useful when he hears it when in pursuit of their power ok thats i mean look at the me too movement we went from believe all women to believe joke what happened there what happened there ok i mean it and my position on that has always been the same you have to listen to anyone that makes a complaint of that magnitude it doesnt matter who the person is it doesnt matter who the station they happen like it doesnt matter who its directed against ok my position is very simple ok there is very convoluted depending on the surface i just you know why dont tell time over n. B. C. He did a i or yeah i mean. I think you see the lowest of lows well i get that theyre next and then what they did this attacking of attorney general car i mean that thats what this all ends up actually did this by saying that cuddy and the twizy ok i mean i say i dont ive gotten bigger ive been using apparatchik though not is pronounced as artfully as you but imagine if i took what you said there is a cut you have a quote i then cake that quote i think spice it remove the answer and then go on t. V. And say why didnt he say this now in law in our 1st amendment we have New York Times again sullivan which deals with things like libel slander defamation. We dont have anything called 9 fees and where you dont do your job its not negligence its a deliberate and intentional refusal to do a job there is no cause of action for theres no statute you can hold people accountable so if i were to have give you an incomplete Police Report an incomplete doctor job or radiology report anything where youre reading this and i said i didnt lie i just didnt give you the complete picture the american public. Had surely i won one more thing you want i keep using phrases from our past left right liberal conservative this isnt to do with liberals this is this is a for a dark force that i cant even understand what their goal is it is get trump thats it not even get contributive or reagan or anything everyone you know but you know i think thats such a such a fascinating point and weve talked about this on number of occasions in different venues about the poverty of our political language i agree with you 100 percent and we need to start getting away from it the thing is i dont know what the next paradigm is and were out but were back youre right its really about what i think it is in its in broadest sense its about the preservation of their privilege its ok thats what its all about i mean look at that you know nancy pelosi is this insane. To me was package you know theres nothing to do with the with the pandemic its a way to get all their goodies if you know things that we shouldnt i begin bait and kind of elections thats how the process no no this is done behind closed doors they rid of all this funny money for all their money weird projects that no one asked me about because i would say no i dont want to do that or want to waste money on that i want to help working families i want to help Small Businesses thats what we should be doing but no this is exactly what the media does it just echo chambers all the time because the media. They want the preservation of their privilege and their access and of course their 6 figure jobs and their parent purred lifestyle because reporting the news its not reporting is that celebrity is a form of so lebron has nothing to do with informing people because you know what will they be when my audience here if you didnt form people theyd pull out of pinch fork thats what would happen oh yeah thats what they would do and they will do it because nobody believes these fools anymore ok could you get off the fence and was going to defend us. Im scaring my dogs. You know well let me go back to you i mean for me i could get my money i dont expect much from politicians ever i dont care what stripe they are but in my profession i do i have to call people well ok and i will never stop doing that because i have to look at myself in the mirror every day and just say this calls balls and strikes ok theyre not even playing the game theyre doing Something Else completely in a different dimension i think this is the real problem and these people these conspirators actually what they are they get the cover of the media and they think theyre going to get away with it and you know what it just might go that they have been getting away with it if we look at it with the what that media does how they influence souls whether its a situation where they make a big make a big stink about doing the truth saying to a reporter who happens to be a true american go less china something that hes talked about keep blaming china since i think probably early february so it doesnt matter that he said this may be different for even the reporter herself and this is what this is what the media does day what they want to become trading stories and so you saw it with their reporter on this she asked the president well why arent you saying that to me well because he said it to everyone else but what she wanted to do was put out there in the media he needed. We followed up with. That american reporter to go and sign this. No you know what it is you know what it is has nothing to do with the womans ethnicity at all you know you know it has everything to do with is shes a snowflake ok thats the group she said was you know the place and you know being a snowflake is colorblind because there is 0 plagues everywhere all right and you know that hope they can about trump being a racist its never got any traction with me in any person in any modern life of the last 40 years has dealt with every single racial group its a donald trump hes been in hes been in the entertainment hes been in business i mean you dont get are being having a closed mind and you know i have my criticisms of the president and they can be there are numerous numerous ok but that one doesnt go anywhere because im sorry i dont believe and be triggered ok weve got bigger problems to worry about lionel finish it up 25 seconds you know im here im going to be in new york and im pointing to where the comfort was this was a ship which you left in the middle of the night we dont know why down the street is a jabot center where they had 3000 beds that were going to handle the get the death of people i trust bubbles a couple of blocks away we had referred you raided the trailers to handle the the cords of wood of bodies stacked you know that none of this happened not one person from the Mainstream Media said i what about. A c. B. C. Where they go because you know what that doesnt help the agenda of hurting president try to take thats right ok because it doesnt get the story out they want to protect their privileges as all the time we have gentlemen many thanks and i guess and in new york and in washington and place where we were watching us here are you see you next time remember. Workers versus employers businesses versus the government consumers versions of all of the legal aspects of the cobra 19 pandemic on this edition of. Welcome to politicking on larry king according to market watch nearly 1000. 00 several instate lawsuits are already been filed in relation to the cold the 19 pandemic so what will Legal Protections for consumers and employees look like and how will lawsuits against governments for force closings play out for analysis im joined by Vinnie Politan lead