Affected badly yes but we have to get our country open art is that putting economics over health. Actually i think theyre both go together in this case the real reason we went to the shutdown and most of the places around the country had to go there was because we did not have the supplies the equipment the hospitals the doctors we and we didnt know how bad the virus was going to be so now we have a lot more we dont have everything we want we dont have all the to discus we dont have all the masks although theyre being produced very rapidly right now but we have enough to be able to save a lives and and handle the situation of people kamil larry this country was based on risk we all took risks as americans years ago our ancestors anyway did when the ohio territory or through us territory was settled incredible number of plagues of diseases if you read back on history that our forefathers withstood lot of people died but what people lived they didnt shut down their businesses they went on they accepted some of that as a reality of life so in things true of war we dont like casualties none of us do but in a way were in a war its not the same exactly but we are so if we can minimize them we save every life we can we take every step we possibly can do which were going to the process of doing i think we have to reopen the economy because otherwise were not going to have a food supply and were not going to have the ability to to regain the status of living to which i think all of us want to or gradually have asia sam listen to your father. Thats right and i thought about it myself and im up to 2 years of it not as young Spring Chicken anymore i mean one of those vulnerable categories but the reality is that i think thats something that is difficult for everybody when when somebody passes and i had a friend a very good friend very recently who died. I read it in the newspaper didnt realize its that happened and what did that sad yes it did and i think all of us are going to know somebody whos been touched by the illness probably somebody whos passed away from it and are going to be more deaths but thats inevitable thats going to happen whether to shut down or not and less we get some miracle drug in the next few months and we hope we do we just cant sustain a shutdown for as long as it would take to get a Vaccine Congress has approved nearly 3 trillion dollars in cove in 1000. 00 relief as is going to be enough do you think. I dont know what the right dollar amount is but i think the sooner we get the economy going again the less were going to need the question is going to be trying to help these businesses especially the smaller was survive some of its happen for about 3 months but if we continue to have people not go out and by the way thats really a key to open the economy again you can say were opening it but it people dont choose to take the risk themselves and go out and do social distancing and act the right way the economies are going to come back quickly and so the answer the question is it depends if the we dont see a return at least a partial normality of the very near future there will have to be some work you know spending to help keep some of these businesses alive to do people to take money home which you know this is only a short term gain weve done even though its a lot of money. Your government decentest has said that they will leave function not include aid to states for financial obligations that predate the pandemic what do you think of that statement. I think hes made a very astute statement we cannot as a nation afford to bail out all the states propose and obligations that theyve had the past i whats going to happen larry is many state revenues be affected dramatically and the consequence of that means that state services some of them are going to have to be cut back many states like florida have a constitutional mandate on the legislature they have to have a balanced budget every time they cant operate like the federal government deficit so therell be some really hard choices i notice that the budget in florida that was passed by the legislature couple of months ago has not been sent to the governor yet i think the reason they havent said its because they know theyre going to have to go back to redress this and it may happen sooner rather than later. There are some 700 license Nursing Homes in florida the federal government is considering rolling back Infection Control recommend requirements and such facilities what do you make of all that well i am one who really believes that the nursing home level where youve got a lot of Senior Citizens youve got to be super cautious and i would read by regulation the whole literacy homes strictly accountable make sure that everybody who comes into the nursing home is prechecked make sure that every effort is made to senate ties it is absolutely essential because if youre in a nursing home youre not just elderly youve probably got real Serious Problems and any action of any significance is going to be potentially terminal a day after trump indicating the white houses taskforce would be winding down he tune in now and will keep working indefinitely while you make of that change. Well i think that working is important and it working it definitely has a big word to say that the reality is that i think this all right i think you know you cant know for sure about a lot of these things the time there may the president s going to be 2nd guessed on a lot of things he says and does sometimes he says things that are quite outrageous i know that you know that and anybody watching this those that but the question is going to be judged on what he actually does the decisions he makes and whether or not the outcomes are satisfactory to the general public theyre not going to hold in my opinion accountable for being able to have kept this virus from doing the things has been doing but theyre going to hold him accountable the public will for how we come out of it and what happens from here on i really think the next few months are going to decide whos going to testify before the senate before the house have a can testify before the senate what do you make of that why cant fall jettison 5 anywhere well he probably should be i think best political the truth though nancy pelosi has gotten very very acid in her views with respect to the president the partisanship over there in the house at the moment which is my whole body is the strongest on the worst ive ever seen and it came out of the pietschmann process that way and if you recall the night of the state of the union when he basically snubbed her didnt take her hand and then she picked and tore up the the address if you remember that on National Television ever since that has just been really really bad so thats probably way doesnt want to fancy over there i dont think its to keep her out of saying anything and he simply because of the relationship and it being so harsh to control being under. Under carters riposte at the present time as speaker. What do you make of calling the senate back in the house doesnt come back with this pandemic going while what if you are a senator when you be a little apprehensive i think some are there Wearing Masks now which is good they should be doing that they are being cautious it is a difficult time and its difficult to clean the whole place all the time to keep it that way but if you restrict the people coming in which they are right now we are having a public that visiting the capitol and you have a secure office area it is intermingling with your colleagues and hopefully the step very limited staff i think is doable i think this is like any other business opening and we are encouraging that to happen right now in many parts of the country so im really not against it i think i think the house is going to come back in and soon probably the next month they will theyll have to. Bill in closing i want to make of all this we never had to deal with that before whats it like for you your at home i guess what me and where are we going with all of this well its going to be very dramatic larry yes im at home ive been at home working from home working remotely since the end of march early and mid march i guess and all of my colleagues are in a big law firm and theyre doing it worldwide i think we come out of this several things are going to happen larry i think 1st of all that businesses law firms there are all kinds of businesses are going to do more Remote Working if they have that capability if they if they do the type of work you can do remotely i think a lot of office space is going to be empty which may be a difficulty for the economy i think that regulations in certain areas are going to wind up getting changed because in order for the businesses to come back theyre going to have to change some of the rules many of the state rules by the way not federal in order to let you know hair salons operate maybe somebody operate from a not one location but from their home or some other location there will be a lot of changes and for the near term i dont know what the long term is but i can guarantee you the near term its going to be a very different world out there for us when we come back well be wearing face masks we should be and we should be distancing for the forseeable future now i do know there are some drugs in development that look very promising and so all the courses words that dr phil sheehan dr brooks have said or are appropriate to this but i am an optimist and never i was a Ronald Reagan hopped in the sun always been that way i feel very committed to our country were free the greatest nation is true world were going to survive this we shouldnt be down about it we should be upbeat we should go out and do our part but do it prudently be courses but dont be too cautious go out when you need to go buy something and theres a story thats open now where youve asked distance hope with stories of biting by the rules but go go go give it you know go go pay them something and help that economy come back. Very practical Bill Mccollum thanks so much always good seeing you bill good seeing you too or thank you well have more politicking right after the break. Yes don the witch is dead Warren Buffett the extortionist private equity that job is recorded Game Changing the record breaking losses as Berkshire Hathaway is Holding Company goes belly up. Something like shes taking the whole coast coming up. Arms. To try to defeat. The loose. Movement this is a close to this law the city streets he needs to. Welcome back to politicking earlier this week i spoke with former senator Joe Lieberman about joe bidens assault allegations and the trumpet ministrations response to the call that 1910 demick here is part 2 of that conversation whats your reaction. To what mike pompei also said theres enormous evidence that the Virus Outbreak occurred in a chinese laboratory. Well im interested in it. Secretary promptly obviously has access to classified information that you and i did and up and most others dont have access to. I think its important to say that nobody is saying that this was an intentional bioterrorist that china or anyone else the question is. Did this start with an accident in the laboratory which was experimenting with where it says it will and there is as you know such a laboratory or its most of the scientists and where ologists the virus experts say didnt start with with bats carrying a virus attacking way of animals in the in the wet market and then people this is one its beyond our knowledge. Of over it obviously can badly affect us china relationships and i think im very careful about our acquisitions unless we know for sure. That there is a d basis for them i will tell you this letter when we started our Commission Tom ridge and i didnt start we were asked to be that it was run out of the Hudson Institute a think tank in washington. Our charge was to examine 3 different kinds of threats one from an Infectious Disease or. The other from an actual bioterrorist attack by an enemy and the 3rd was an accidental release of a biological pathogen from a laboratory in the United States and weve d had those happen so its certainly conceivable that this happened in china even in as slade a way you would think as one person working. In the hearing d and affected by a particular virus there are experiments with not knowing it growing are spreading the virus and then it just like for so through this whole i just hope we dont get it to a shouting match with china as i can be good either country or anybody in it or how big. How big a portion of the election will be devoted to the cove at 19. I think a lot will. Its a but its a really important question. I think that. Right now if the election were held today. And im basing this on Public Opinion polling nationally and then some of the critical states west President Biden would be President Trump but the election is 6 months away and if the virus is diminished and people are going back to work and the economy is growing then i think its really d d a jump ball and i wouldnt that it will be very close probably again a lot of it will depend on how each of them campaigns in the case of us President Biden. Who chooses as a Vice President ial which i think will be a very important. Was strong statement that we had the greatest economy in the history of the world correct. I dont have it and i dont know if the basis for a Statement Like that is a man it was a great economy you were d wrong the markets were high look at this fascinating that and encouraging that. Of americans go up and down the basically and going up well a lot of the Economic Data has been really bad but still are there are areas of strength in our economy and as a citizen a lot of money out there just waiting to be used productively so i think the market is saying to us now not today but over the last month or 2. That investors believe that the u. S. Economy is going to come back and thats encouraging and i hope that we can to. Use it with him in the senate. Democrats immediate thoughts on joe bidens current situation. You know its as though the city personally a mass or 24 years of them in the senate is the strange personal to us of fate i was a state senator in the 1772 joe biden its elected to the u. S. From though hes not even 30 when he gets elected 31. 00 station will minimum age when he takes office in january 2 years later im running for reelection i have a friend in. New haven amish is a mirage harrison writes us and says how do you like to have a u. S. Senator come up and campaign for it so i cant imagine who would want the lowest its a well i would serious with a guy in a job ive ever had him up and he was very d respected there together weve been friends ever since just flying human being. He knew how to make the senate the senate work i mean he he by the virtue of his personality the fact that people liked him and trusted him he has on usually strong relationships with republican senators you know people like Strom Thurmond but certainly people like orrin hatch. Who as with whom he pilapil rooted to get some big d was passed so i have a lot of respect for him. Do you worry that the made to movement will now attach itself to him you know if you were divided i mean its look this woman terrorist made a serious a decision i mean i will say to. Myself from from. All these decades a moment joe or particular the 24 years in the senate and there are senate is like the behavior of the user even suggestive of the behavior that is the hughess emote but shes come out and its not easy and made them as biting them so. She deserves to be taken seriously in the investigation and the accusation investigated one of the most significant things in these cases is that is there a pattern of behavior i mean there are others who will say that joe biden did something similar and im so forward havent seen it so. My guess is because of the way politics is that this will chase him and hound him this kid is right through the action but i dont really think its going to this how many people unless something more its proven but this kind of behavior by joe biden right now its just accusation democratic chairman tom perez says he still expects the party to hold him in Person Convention then milwaukee you think that was going to happen oh it would be great if it does and i guess the republicans are going to hold on i guess there isnt show in north carolina. But. You know its day by day on a sudden to put that many people in one place if unless were really found of diagnostic treatment medicine or by then the numbers are way down i think its best to be coarseness hero there are some people would say that the conventions sort of run out there effectively. And we hope planted different way d to nominate. And the maybe it doesnt have to be a crowd like its books its an old American Institution but i think that maybe a lot of people who are tired of it and accept the delegates will have a good time. Do you think florida you think florida michigan pennsylvania and wisconsin are the key states. Yeah they show up like you might throw in arizona. If you cancel when ever thats it i agree and this is a strange thing we have now you cant in the house to refer to the 2000 election so al gore and i got 5 and 40000 more votes and jerks worse d and that cheney lost Electoral College with 3 votes. Hillary clinton got almost 3000000 more votes the tramp in 2016 i forget the numbers when he went to Electoral College but 030 or 40 votes so thats the way it is thats thats the constitution and. There are big population states in new york california which a are or prove predictably democratic so thats a good head start of the numbers with those states you say are the ones there are going to be the the battleground states d and when i said before the election were held today i think joe biden would when its based on reading polls in those states was and every one of those states to the. Joe biden is ahead some are quite closely floor some like michigan is built of some one to 10 point lead well i dont know that a whole but if it does biden is or makes president finally joe give us your outlook once the new normal developed like. I dont quite see it i mean i hope we were journalists march to the old normal as we as it was pretty good lawyer here in america but for some period of time. Were going to have to figure out who things like the handshake and the go you know we were in rafts weve got a socially distance a bit were probably going to be doing areas a meeting its more on the line of doing you know before you know we used to larry i miss people i dont know. If there was somebody i want to be in a room with somebody i want to go out and have a drink or have dinner together and i think them that and youre not ever normal in there and so i think that a lot of where is this soon as we dont have a reason to be fearful about our health then were going to go back as close to normal as we can. That may not happen so quickly if someone tells me it will larrys ok to go to the palm tonight not sure i want to go i know thats what separate is like thats whats happening in china is they claim they did stop the everest and theyve opened up a lot of things but people are coming out very slow. 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When surveying the wide field of news these days one can stumble upon a 1000000 different plot lines whether its another bumbled us lead chua temptin venezuela this time using former us soldiers toward mercenaries to the very real surveillance state inspired fears that are gaining ground with each new revelation coming out of the Us Government and silicon valleys plans for potential contact tracy. But its the plotline that is with unfolding in the african country of somalia since the birth of 2020 that we will focus on today in particular its the very under reported fact that since january 1st 2020 the United States government through the pentagons Africa Command has been conducting a brutal barrage of air strikes inside the battered nation just security dot com reports that in the 1st few months of 2020 the u. S. Has already conducted at least 39 air strikes in somalia to put that in perspective africa carried out 63 airstrikes during the entirety of 2019. In fact nick turse the fantastic journalist who has consistently been a thorn in africa side he points out that u. S. Africa command has conducted more air strikes in somalia than it did during all of Barack Obamas 8 years in office. Yes my friends it appears that while the world has been targeting cold with 19 the u. S. Government has decided to target small humans i remember back in early april when the United Nations secretary general and tony will get better declared to the world that quote there should be only one fight in our world today our shared battle against cold with 19 we must mobilize every ounce of energy to defeat it well get this according to an Africa Press Release the very day that the un leader called for a global ceasefire the United States military was dropping bombs on somalia. Wonder what our priorities are lets find out as we start watching all this. On a city street. Like. This you always see. Graves see this least systemic deceptions show which. Brings up. Welcome everyone watching the. Winter and i was well made to look at this apparently during all this time fighting viruses we still have time to drop some bombs on some brown people around the world one thing us love to do that started because when they remain 3rd we will always have but im going to try to disarm a whole populations of people particularly those that we pull for good good point very good point its crazy i mean last year under President Donald Trump the u. S. Conducted 63. 00 air attacks in somalia that was the most ever in a single year since the beginning of the year africa when i was 39. 00 airstrikes in somalia the command announced total 36 such attacks from 20092017 i mean thats saying they were seeing these numbers rise like that i mean in 2016 it peaked under about about with just 19 i dont know why were dropping bombs on somalia in the 1st place like no ones quite you know alshabaab terrorist whatever but this seems excessive at this point that 6 was going to be my question what is the reasoning i dont know what the reasoning was under the obama