Transcripts For RT The Alex Salmond Show 20240713

And presence David Mcdonald says isnt that a very realistic possibility that if the world doesnt get back to work soon that the lockdown is going to end up more damaging than the virus not to see that there shouldnt be some lockdown at this time louis says i would be for those whove lost their partners under isolating alone and grieving alone james burton says and it just scotland our heroes and many many others out there good on them how lucky we all are to have them all here here jeans last week we also discussed the rising Domestic Violence figures joining this crisis to which allison says men are also at risk of Domestic Violence please lets not ignore this also it is the least reported a lot of white says i hope all families to have lost loved ones will be getting assistance with funeral costs no one seems to mention the city hall when people are under financial strain then they have the worry of additional financial costs louis says the economic divide is causing a huge problem when the World Health Organization told countries and watched the test test test some dead and some didnt those who followed the voice or heard of the viral curve those are the low wish the hard. Im not joined from from glasgow by professor Harvey Barnes a professor of Global Health of the universe to strive played and scott and former chief medical officer professor bombs this week the u. K. And indeed scotland have announced of a tavern to the test trace isolate strategy how difficult will that be now that the the violence has a substantial grip even if the peak has passed according to the authorities we need to make a steak. And routine thing it is far from being is it really just to scare you know that some of the story in your people was critical isnt this that suggests you have caught it the go to when it needs hops that there are a fair to. Go actors that we will that who people use or in their total probably happen at their same home to eiseley in families with me the other members of the family and sorbent victims and then youre tested its legacy. And im seeing that im hearing those stories from g. P. S. And from our colleagues and read just dont seem to have a grip of what we need to do how useful well the new up the smartphone technical devices be assisting to create an effective tracing isolation regime their sadness and now that seems to be to use several weeks ago in other countries and eventually were getting to the stage were going to be able to use it and i think its going to be very important its kind of virtual lockdown if you like being able to do a number of things like we are mosques and know who youre interacting with this or its a way of moving a summary from our known and still providing some sefton that you will be able to trace and nice only the people who heard her crying the disease and i think its important that we all use it professor buns a professor of Global Health of the university of strathclyde casting your i am to mash nollie which countries have impressed to where fela approach to to handling the virus. Were out there are many i think south korea because of its experience with mariners that was prepared in a way d that we clearly have not been here i think jeremy moved very rapidly discussing as i did last week with a group of gerald colleagues their response theyre taking the view that germanys getting a bit of undeserved credit they think germany could have done more but still carry the death 3 down in a very small austrian are switzerland these are places have managed this in a way that we clearly have not and thats thats a sign that we just have not got to grips with it and germany started the testing regime very aptly and were able to manage this much more effectively i think how the bombs just breaking into some of the great city of glasgow whether something has been noted that even just a few miles apart because of economic factors and deprivation the can be dramatic differences in the long devotee and Life Expectancy of the i suspect that when we come to otherwise the empire somewhat talented and covert 19 we shall see the same despite of these on adjacent populations i dont think theres any doubt that this will happen impact on and house in and mark how i take inequalities that we will see i am now very irate option and Life Expectancy in scotland. As a result of this and the biggest reduction methods vacancy will be people who are head of the social scale thats thats mathematics that we will have to do this part of their review of activity with this is all busted how bombs are the rabid crimes. Optimism that when we are mad from this crisis that some of the Public Health messages that have successfully been a got across will actually impact in a positive sense and Long Term Health i think the benefit. For them it will be a new way in which are economy grows people are looking to. Local businesses theyre helping them out that the local businesses are doing their leverage is that the start to keep things going themselves and i think after this we will begin to show a bit more care and attention in terms of our own local Community Action inclusive Economic Growth as some as a policy that Scottish Government wants to pursue growth that include everyone affluent and deprived not just the wealthy the Big International companies and so on but investing in local people local enterprise and keeping the money going in local communities and i think what we may well see is a more kidding society a settlement or thats the case looking from the community in scotland to the Global Policy what a vest stance can we have done to fires to the great lessons from this Global Pandemic and what changes have acquired that and to last a level so that we are better prepared for the next challenge the top from my quench if you made less of this lesson to the long tells organization these are people d of immense experience they get to see whats happening in different parts of the valley on and theyre much in this instance they have been much more on the ball than individual countries like the rupee like god help us the usa d where things seem to be spiraling up trouble we have messed up while i think for too long in the u. K. And you can see some impatience was in the Scottish Government the Scottish Government has jumped in and moved moved things are that faster. Ready. The u. K. Government should be moving across their area so the lesson is wissam to whats happening look at the technology the other places and systems other places are using to control it lend from them and implement as quickly as possible and finally select case looking at the pleasure of those come to bear on the World Health Organization from a variety of sources of moving their finance into some sort of the pendle international basis for example or a tobin tax perhaps a bit of voting some of the finance for an International Tax on Financial Transactions are some other means of putting that world specialty into a secure funding because if the the world is a village in terms of the ability of a virus to communicate there the World Health Organization should have the security and funding to be able to do the job in behalf of the planet he added funding it not need heads of state withdrawing from day just because the i could lucians there. The need for the funding but we need the support from the Different Countries and that support grams of expertise and so am i what a lot with the one Health Organization reduced medical officer scott and found them to be immensely reliable and capable and indeed and still are content with some of them and who just cannot believe the way the u. K. Has delayed in getting to grips with us professor had a bun from glasgow thank you very much indeed thank you nice to hear. Join us after the break well find out which country has tested more of its population any other the answer might surprise you joy this. Is youll be a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Isolation community. Are you going the right way or are you being led so. What is true. Is faith. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the death. Or inmate in the shallowness. Of the u. K. Government london has announced this week that the isle of wight off the south coast of england will be a testing ground its trial run for the new smart a mobile phones the site and to assess the renewed testing and tracing policy but should they be looking north robin south for inspiration on how to deal with this virus. At the start of this week the United Kingdom a conducted 60 votes and test for corona virus per 1000000 of its population generally are tested twice that number of the smaller countries norway and new zealand what are part of germany but all of these countries are left feeling in the wake of the tiny pharaoh islands of a population of some 50000. 00 they have tested and face alone one 5th of the entire country under the roof mostly stump the virus im no joined from the favors by former minister christina her force member of Parliament Just in the half or so can i take you back to march if when the federal islands were confronted with them in terms of your population the size quite a number of cases of coronavirus some theft in one day how did you set about tackling the violence and get to a situation where mo youve got to almost eradicate it yes luckily it seems like the Faroe Islands are among the 1st nations to be able to stop the wire iris at the moment and it all comes back to our house started in back in the mid march and right away already when we only had 3 cases in the Faroe Islands and we chose to lock down so we had a very Early Intervention and i think that is spent crucial to the success and now later on and we also put in a strategy right away to where implement extensive testing and to trace all the cases and to quarantine people who have been in contact with people who are tested positive and that of course theres extensive testing showed how many people really have to coral iris and in our societies are people who are in a way quite shocked in the beginning because the more we can. The more we found and the more we learnt any and it turned out to be the right decision to choose the strategy because luckily we succeeded in tracing all cases in quarantining to the relevant people and at the moment we only have like 2 active cases and 99 percent of the 187 people who were tested positive for had a cohort so. Right now things that dont hurt but we know that can change the christina if i arrived at a situation where if tested in the fadeaway wins almost 20 percent of your population how does a Small Island Group arrive at having the facilities to enable you to carry out such an exercise the reason that we have such a huge relatively few Testing Capacity is actually found in our shallow industry and already 20 years ago we had this huge wires outbreak in the salmon industry and back then we chose to invest in their last Laboratory Facilities and since then we each year we perform thousands of wires tests in our selma to ensure that the salmon is healthy so back in january when we heard about on the on the wires and china a researcher at our laboratory recommended to the Health Authorities here in ferrets that we adapted a laboratory to make tests of wires as people so when we got our 1st case 3rd of march and started to test extensively we were ready we got the results within a few hours and that has made it possible to stop the spread of the waves that were for your success in reducing the number of new cases to virtually 0 and were fully to live cases of covert 19 still under supervision have you been able in the. Wait a while and to relax the economic lot though yes luckily we have. Been successful in stopping the waitress and we had 187 cases and 185 of them and recover to only 2 active cases at the moment we only had 3 new cases the last 4 weeks and all of those 3 cases were people who came from abroad and they were already in 2 weeks planting so it hasnt spread since then and thats why we are where you strict demanding that people who come to the Faroe Islands and go into 2 weeks quarantine because in that way we can ensure that the wires wont spread again so yes we had there been able to piece to restrictions and they can 2nd back to School Day Care has opened people beginning to go back to work so the only restriction we have stale is that you cant garner more than 50 people at one place and you should still try to be 2 metres apart i dont understand though kristie that yourself and your fellow m. P. s of offered to lend their expertise to the west the mail ins of scotland your neighbors your nearest neighbors almost over the atlantic i know there have been there are connections between the Scottish Government and the ferry areas government and i just hope that there they will also get some positive results because i think its very important if we could help each other through this very difficult times and as the an awareness in the fadeaway islands along with a number of countries but a fairly select band like new zealand the taiwan the fair while and so being the one of the best cases thus far in the world of. Demonstrating how to confront and tackle and suppress such a deadly virus the things that we have in common is that we had all of this early in the wrench and that we went where early end would lock down the parents we only had 3 positive cases where we lucked out and secondly that we have traced all the cases found of people who have been in contact or people who are tested positive and that we have put people into quarantine that has made it possible ot for us to reopen after such a sale in much faster and hopefully also usa the long term damage will canonically but also in other ways because its not healthy for people to be in lock down so long to stay there half force in the fairway islands thank you for joining us today stay safe and well done for your strategy thus far thank you very much and thank you for having me and we should all the best and stay safe. The u. K. Government is piloting its facing up on the isle of wight but the hill in year the local member of parliament brenda neil says the Scottish Government should be piloting its facing policy on the hebrides im now joined from the Beautiful Island the bottom by i guess mcneil welcome back to the alex simon show angus a great place and alex thank you now you have from Christina Hoff and from the fed a while and about the systems that theyve employed in these islands is that the sort of thing you want to see in the in the west though miles absolutely the theory system has been remarkably successful when you consider that they are going to taste test and have done the cases the phone at that with it looked at those cases even more so this weekend when we find it in the in my need a guy like sky that at 54 kisses of a a covert 90 Proof Positive that that is more than a 3rd of the city says another but a 3rd of the city says i dont subsidy astonished that one i have it kind of up of course from the following the sort of u. K. System of just course if a go shop for the best at all locked out my ticket waiting for the virus to go we know that will happen. So thats a serious outbreak and im nothing home and put clear in their eye on the sky is that emphasis for you if it were needed that island communities and the north senses immune from the spread of this virus absolutely and the only thing that can limit the viruses and think if you arent an icelandic showed it proper policies and i guess id be chasing the virus thats left course without a pilot it makes stitches it noted every extra 8 recently but figure i dont have done and what i said to john and that is when we find somebody positive we go and look for all the contacts test them quote him to never make sure the virus is not going to be further to set back as were doing and when for the virus to come knocking at the door that means you will find pockets of 54 cases all of once now in the last week in the u. K. Government in london have announced a pilot scheme in the isle of wight in the just off the south coast of england further their new intelligent for up to assessment facing is this what you mean for scotland are you thinking of something more encompassing i wish them well and i dont quite i was tired and i think that forced to be one of the best is one of the areas of england when the best isnt test the out but i think when alls said and done the up lunatic is so far we need something bigger and better than the bigger better thing this to test to taste attack where the focus is exactly what if either one incident and theyve even been kind enough to offer us the head of the successes both from government level and from private Company Level to ensure we have the capacity to achieve this test to the syntax of the vitus and i think thats something that we should be grateful to them for and i would have from the fin a while and certainly adapted their testing regime for for salmon farming to find salmon violences and use that rather cleverly and and a bit of fashion to give them the the testing facility they quiet to plaque. Call that 19 is this what youve got mine firmly west on the islands all d day are you going to use one of the army more bell units like the one thats been sent to sky whatever comes we need to increase the capacity of and we should firstly be congratulating the cities on the engineer to get the south started they havent sat back and wait for somebody else to come and do 6 i have a health board that sitting back at the moment trying to quote our wheat and guidance and we guided presumably from the Central Government policy to change agenda so what is there is the technical and our we have to do the testing what isnt it its a political lifting of the page to change the policy that will enable them to do so already did even the demand from the health board to achieve that as well so this is part of the log jam as far as i could see when in within scotland understand why did you care i think we need more autonomy but surely the Scottish Government is then the case did that they are moving back to a test trace and isolate policy cant may have been is just wait for that to be rolled out over scotland why do we need a pilot scheme in there and the hebrides well its certain that man can tell you that neither tighten up tight and dont think that mine can tell that the movement of a virus either it we have to be lightning quick and you know to be indicating we might do something at some point in a week at 2 stime really isnt good enough when we have the capability to do it you know so i think things need to be a bit quick and we can tell that the movement of this virus epic in sky shows 54 people are doorstep i positive all of a sudden and this this could have been us perhaps and just slight change of substances and i should quoting from scotlands National Point robert bums but shouldnt you be giving us pals the wisdom from some galaxia from bob well i think youre getting the pedals of wisdom of the moment in this interview and i hope that the i see the not really my kind of wisdom been the out the perils of us of the World Health Organization. When i spoke to that if you use Health Minister this intuition i said what did you do it said quite simply we just followed the World Health Organization guidelines its not very difficult just do that and you do it well and thats what theyve done and thats why they have a team to other move this moment in time couldnt it is indeed iceland and new zealand and many other jurisdictions done that as well simply by following the good advice that was given not trying to reinvent the wheel which is what happened in the u. K. Post march the 12th i guess by mcneil from the wonderful island the but thank you very much for joining us today and we welcome thank you. There are many things about corona virus we do not yet fully understand however some things that we do know we know that this virus attacks the elderly and formals we know that people of color are vulnerable we know that is highly infectious we also know that those countries which followed the World Health Organization advice to test a trace to isolate ahead of the virus curve those who didnt are still lot and its deadly embrace so when you see when the iceland site the those countries which have handled this virus well people say ah but the small countries and the islands but taiwan is not a small country and germany is neither an island not a small country in any case small countries by definition the resources of small countries where the a been successful is because they followed International Best practice ive adapted the resources of hard to meet the challenge in the fairly whalens as we have here the if used to love lot of trees theyve had for testing for salmon viruses to come to the help but need of the human population the larger question the much larger question as one of those countries which failed in march to implement tracing and testing can we know reintroduce it as a means of escaping from the ruinous economic lockdown and can this be done without letting the virus loose once again of one thing we can be absolutely sure technical out through smart phones may provide a useful addition to a policy that in themselves they are no substitute for boots on the ground or at least personnel manning the phone banks and implementing a proper policy of testing tracing and isolation and so forth has made them myself and all of the show is stay safe good bye for now and well see you next week. Thousands of american men and women choose to serve in the countrys military and the decision little sheltered lives every song came to a complete. The day that i was raped be instructed to go you know told to shut up but theyd kill me and i see how destroyed my life any screamed at me and he made me come in and he graham my arm and he raped me with his birthing area if you take into account that women dont report because of the extreme retaliation and its probably somewhere near about half a 1000000 women have now been sexually assaulted in the us military rape is a very very traumatizing thing to have happen but ive never seen trauma like ive seen from women who are veterans who have suffered military sexual trauma reporting rape is more likely to get the victim punished dont be offended by hand and almost 10 year career or chose very invested in and i gave that up to report a sex offender who was not even going to justice or put on the registry this is simply an issue of our in violence male sexual predators for the large part of target whoever is there to prey upon whether thats a man or woman. So weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confrontation let it be an arms race is often this very Dramatic Development the only place really going to exist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. Welcoming viewers from around the world live from Central London this is all to u. K. But nations battle it out over when to ease lock down measures as the scottish 1st minister claims her country one could be coerced by westminster ill be talking to a former scottish politician also a medical doctor. Whistle blows in british canadas claim the situation is like a also with p. P. Shortages unsafe conditions and companies ignoring concerns. India begins repatriating its citizens as many Indian Students stranded in the u. K. Go hungry with universities shots and jobs scams. Also this former british Opposition Leader Jeremy Corbyn leads an all blind ready calling for socialist offices to the crisis ill be talking with activists who set to speak at the event to see. The devolved British Governments are divided over how to ease lock down restrictions with the scottish 1st minister saying she will not be pressured bone westminster it comes ahead of the Prime Ministers address to the nation on sunday where hes expected to unveil the countrys exit strategy as he sees it at least what he said he joins me with all the latest so the home nations are a lot ahead so it seems. Yes absolutely weve seen throughout this crisis perhaps diversions in how the Different Countries within the United Kingdom have dealt with this crisis now the Scottish Governments have been ahead of the curve when it comes to things like publishing an exit plan and also now differences a rise in with regards to a way out if there is to be one now we know that nicolas sturgeons already suggested that country want to be easing. Restrictions if anything theyre going to be extending their lock down for 3 weeks with mr g. Saying that she dont going to be bullied by westminster to change her approach is my preference if possible for all 4 u. K. Nations to make changes together at the same pace because that certainly helps us give clear consistent messages to you the public however for that approach to work we must agree to make changes only when all 4 governments are satisfied that they dont risk a resurgence of the vitus and again let me be clear if the Prime Minister decides that he wants to move at a faster pace for england that i consider is right for scotland that is of course his right i will respect that and i will not criticize him for doing that but i hope you understand and indeed i hope you again that i must make judgments informed by the evidence that are right and safe for scotland i will not be pressured into lifting restrictions prematurely before i am a certain as i can be that we will not be risking a sergeants of infection rates. The developed government in wales as well have also emphasized that any decision they make will be their own and not one coming from westminster of course the approach to Public Health is one of the devolved powers and also Northern Ireland also expected to meet to discuss within their government the measures that need to be taken any idea how the Prime Minister thinks the lockdown will be lifted. Well Boris Johnson is expected to address the country on sunday and is expected to give an idea as to how the country can get out of this lockdown situation although on sunday itself im not expecting any major huge changes or announcements but we could have a look at some of the ideas that the Prime Minister has hes likely to encourage people to continue maintaining social distancing Wearing Masks in face coverings but also for those people returning to work making changes to the transport system maybe putting hand sanitizers on platforms the government may also begin to allow more outdoor exercise we know of course people are allowed out once a day that may become unlimited sunbathers may be allowed to go to the park right guard incenses may reopen as well as employees increasingly going back to work later on by the end of may beginning of june kind of time we could see some Primary School children allowed back at school in particular those who are in year 6 allow them to transition into secondary school as well as allowing socalled social bubbles to take place friend friendship groups and having to meet in small numbers by the end of june we could also see secondary schools opening as well beginning with years d 10 and 12 and also allowing for small team sports to take place and the Prime Minister might also allow cafes that had outdoor seating to reopen again with the proviso that they maintain a social distancing by the end of august putting it beginning of september we could see pubs bars restaurants getting the go ahead to open again social distancing rules strickly having to be in place in those establishment while premiership football could begin by october although of course the premier league themselves may. Have trance to try to open it a bit sooner with whenever it does happen it will be without fans at the stadium and also by the end of the year we could be looking at gyms also be allowed to finally open now the neighbor leader kissed starmer as far as hes concerned this shouldnt be any less it up with regards to those lockdown measures. I think we should i mean im sure that that is going to be the governments decision the u. K. Governments titian and we will support it lock down used to stay in place until were sure the infection rate has gone down. And weve had the death tolls also coming in for england scotland wales and Northern Ireland they represent 464. 00 people who have sadly lost their lives after testing positive to cope at 19 that takes the total now for the United Kingdom 230540 again that number could be significantly higher when different sources are taken into account and securely when the office for National Statistics approach to calculating those numbers are considered d he said thank you very much for the full order that allowed to discuss the divisions between the home nations and not drawn by former scottish politician Tommy Sheridan tommy had to say today. Then devolved governments should have a say of course but its got to be as central to session to lift the lockdown isnt it. Well i think we have to do is of reality into this could be you talked about mosques and Boris Johnson should wear a mask permanently a mask of shame we want to lete were going to law though we didnt know any jewish problem or tasting to see just our strategies we know you have the largest death rate from corporate 19 in the whole of europe 2nd only in the world do you need the states of america we have had a disastrous strategy as far as personal protective equipment or lou is in the front lane of dealing with call that 19 and rich single commitment this government has given has been a tissue of lies lies as far as the case that hes been sam lies as far as p. P. Please consider lives this violence that have immunity strategy and at least stop it all in relation to the stop of us faces why therefore should be to change it to follow a government that has been a long and every single aspect of one of dealing tell me where its right if weve got to get the whole country back to work and after all these suggested measures Boris Johnson may run into g. s on some they are very limited indeed very mild in effect. We have to get the country back to work when it rains and seeds to go back to walk all of the conditions currently on the table sure we still have a deadly iris that has no in built with or elite people are still dying nearly 500 more in the last 24 hours bill largest there 3 in unit went to law legal been bit rich them you know starting to ast lita the rest of europe we look to lead to going to law we certainly shouldnt airily i mean of looking at the situation now surely we know gave the buy here we are all right we knew that poverty due to the virus could actually kill more people. If the lockdown continues 40 was killing a lot of people before the lot dont go lets remember the United Nation state you know 120 ocean permits you advance jew to government or standard you over the last year so we will kick any bleating rope towards no deaths from all that they will carry never gets front of it before the law no no 1000000000 ails and the billionaires are calling for. Its just a shit of the law because they want to make profit losing money we should have a universal basic income introduced booting law and parts one that should stay out the law it sure and. From the pit that should be well by Central Government no amount of law then when its far too early when people hear this sort of criticism and what you say to the fact that maybe your trying to politicize a scottish and welsh administrations playing politics have courses nicholas sturgeons interest to look like she really is standing up to westminster. Oh there are usually duties in life tight so you shouldnt dare. I thought. Politics. Everything is political wars are. Exist its political a lot all of that by imo that means as i let it go that held what does some died unnecessarily because the. Robot. What made a real oh and we all hope that you look all of those who are right in the buyers more people in the. Cause of the end else. Of government from insurance policy. As well as Tommy Sheridan thank you very much indeed for joining us live here on our u. K. And meanwhile the British Governments announce that almost half a 1000000 surgical gowns delivered from turkey have been rejected after failing to meet Safety Standards downing street during the shipment significant a number of weeks ago but then disaster struck when the delivery arrived later than anticipated more than un secretary Brendan Lewis claimed upon closer inspection the gowns fail to meet british Safety Standards he said it was just one to live report was unable to say if the u. K. Would get its money back well to discuss p. P. E. Shortages and easing the lock down itself or not joined by dr david david good to see today now in terms of p p the shipment disaster what what what a major embarrassment no Quality Control wasted money in frontline staff still at risk. Yeah absolutely i think there are a number of things the government has done wrong clearly theyve obviously panicked and tried to buy the p. P. A. They bought it from turkey it is clearly not fit for purpose but to be faster then they have Quality Control to it hasnt gone out of the front line thats a good thing but clearly there is an inadequate supply of p. P. Across the u. K. And its really unacceptable for Health Care Workers at risk and particularly those working in care homes that risk if they havent got proper p. P. A. So something needs to be done i dont questions or we are today so. You say david its obviously been quoted to control what is going here but surely so to be should have been sent out there to carry out those Quality Control before it like it i think one of the problems was of course we just simply didnt have enough p. P. At the beginning of this crisis and the government started off if you remember pursuing a completely different strategy they started with herd immunity the idea that you needed 60 percent of the population to gain immunity from coronavirus and then of course after they had nailed fergusons modeling from imperial they panics and then thought right we need to lock down at which point they realize they didnt have enough p. P. And then were competing on the Global Market with every other country in the world and of course you know its going to be incredibly difficult to source the numbers of units that with theyre needed so in fact what we should have done and its easy to say this with hindsight is to test to isolate and to then trace now of course now that were in lockdown thats the strategy that they are about to instigate you say now we are in lockdown but to speculation on how that lockdown could be eased the death rate of course david is still high isnt it to simply too soon to get back to work no i dont think it is i think its an absolute necessity i think what you have a balance of everything isnt it you know 1st of all you have to protect the n. H. S. Capacity which we have done and i think to be fair to the british people theyve done an amazing job at staying at home and listening to what the government said. And you can see that the n. H. S. Is coping weve built the nightingale hospitals there is capacity there you also have to balance this with the economy the country is going to be in a terrible mess and then youve also got to look at peoples physical and Mental Health and very very concerned about people whove been socially isolated for many weeks many people with chronic physical illnesses that arent getting the medical attention that they need so its a balance of all of these things that will be playing on the governments mind and of course the following scheme which i think was a good thing and it was right for the time that is the government paying 80 percent of peoples wages up to 2 and a half 1000 pounds was the right thing to do at that time they said they would review it in 3 months were now coming up to the end of that 3 months and its costing a lot more money because of the uptake than the government thought 8000000000. 00 pounds a month the n. H. S. Is costing 11000000000. 00 pounds a month so clearly thats on tangible and its unsustainable so i think its a matter of urgency that we do start to ramp down the lockdown i just want to ask you then finally as a doctor if somebody asks you that they are very fearful of going out in public life because they could actually catch this virus this is to be quite a strong sense of in the country regarding that and of course the chance that we could actually have another peak of this would you say that as a medical expert well i think you know all advice has to be tell it to the individual if youre in that 1500000 people of really Vulnerable People those people with chronic conditions heart conditions for spiritual conditions diabetes immunosuppression and if youre elderly then you should think very carefully about this and you will have had a letter from the government to stay home before everyone else gets a balance of risk make sure you have social distancing trying go shopping when fewer people are going to be in the stores ensure that you wash your hands and actually you know life is a risk but youre going to have to take some risks but just make sure that you do what is right for you and what you are comfortable with dr david bull thank you very much indeed for your time today. Whistle blows in british care homes have hit out at p. P. Shortages in companies ignoring or even dismissing their concerns as the virus continues to spread it comes as compassion in care reports a spike in the number of calls to its anonymous helpline and released a report detailing some of the most harrowing stories people are clapping for the n. H. S. Care staff we are treated like dirt by our employers and even in the local community we are treated like lepers people have no idea how hard it is youre working with stuff you dont care or who do care but are too frightened to say anything anyone who breaks ranks they are in big trouble we have no nurses here how are we supposed to care for people we have people here who are sick they should have someone with them at least but there is not enough of us at best we have a quick look at them it feels like the only thing we are doing for people is checking to see if theyre still alive thats not care at all i could not take it any more i kept saying this is wrong helpline operation reported over 170 clunes from care workers since the start of the pandemic more than 100 were from Residential Care homes over 20 in care agencies and 42 in Nursing Homes it comes as the virus continues to rip through the institutions with more than 4000 deaths from corona virus in a fortnight and the number is expected to rise drastically. Compassion in care said the whistleblowing process is moving at unprecedented speed to join a crisis that has over 100 organizations signed an open letter warning politicians across the country to take urgent action to help care home workers as they are facing intolerable pressure on the British Government says that despite the crisis things are changing. And the denecke going on in cat homes which is something i bitterly regret to do but what weve been lucky very hard for weeks to have to get it done and a huge amount of effort has been i go into by the tree tens of thousands of people to get the right p. P. To care homes to encourage workers in cabs understand what is what is needed in the last few days. Theres been a palpable improvement but more on this ill be joined by the founder of compassion in kenya an author of the whistleblower report eileen chop that will be live in the next hour here on r t k and also still to come of this hour. India is repatriating thousands of its citizens found of out of town this many Indian Students in the country go hungry without work. And former labor leaders join the cause and calls the socialist Health System because it crosses the head of an on line rally of campaign as ill be talking to one of the speakers shortly. Yes ding dong the witch is dead for an extortionist private equity job is recorded Game Changing record breaking losses as Berkshire Hathaway a company goes belly up. Seems wrong. Just dont hold. Any. To shape out. After. Engagement equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confrontation let it be an arms race off and spearing dramatic to follow can only really im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very. Time to sit down and talk. India has started its repatriation process with 7 flight shuttle from london heathrow to bring citizens back home after over a month of coronavirus lockdown thousands of apply but Officials Say only the most vulnerable will be given priority the passengers will have to pay for flights and quarantine for 14. 00 days upon arrival in india but many Indian Students stranded in britain have little chance of affording that and of all ready to run out of cash is a shot it was dashti reports. The coronavirus pandemic grounded flights around the world and for most it means canceled holidays and business trips but for thousands of Indian Students here in the United Kingdom unable to go home and unable to work to make ends meet its pushed many to the brink of poverty usually been almost starving i mean we didnt have Food Supplies we didnt how did listen planes coming in there was no milk there was not grown. The requirements for something that were not a little far as we had a lot of calls to them saying about theyve got nothing to eat absolutely nothing to eat. And the students are sources here because you know what happened in new york where we all know the that rates are actually the beam communities thats where its all right so these students are really so good to go out so or you know be they can find themselves you know like complete isolation trapped india banned International Flights on the 22nd of march giving those approach just 2 days to find a way home flights that usually average around 300 pounds jumped an 82000 pounds meaning students strapped for cash had neither the time no money to get themselves home there were almost 27000 Indian Students in the United Kingdom in 20 819. 00 rendering them the Fastest Growing group of International Students in britain and they could pay huge sums just to be here up to 38000. 00 pounds in tuition for an undergraduate degree but charities have been flooded with the crests from those who dont come from wealthy backgrounds and have relied on part time jobs during the day jobs that simply dont exist during the u. K. Lockdown the International Students association has distributed over 3600 rescue packages to those in need. To try to divide the small portion afford that they have at the moment dont 3 different portions for the day because they cannot afford for afford at the moment there are some students also who are should be dependent on the park and job that the money that they earn from the job to afford for their living. So at this point of time when you havent lost their job International Students are forced to do such kind of financial struggle they are there are people who are starving at this moment on top of that many are also feeling the mental strain of isolation and uncertainty far away from their families and with the stringent lockdown in place is proving too much to handle in the middle of april it was really difficult for me to get a proper sleep i get up an editor of the night theres some students who are also under the love of you know i mean some kind of a mental breakdown and so many women and looting. And ignore supported norheim lead north from here and it has it has caused huge problem and we we have been sent you know written emails saying that believe me help us you know otherwise we go go die labors m. P. Feeling southall. Has as universities to guarantee hardship funds for International Students stranded and die a situation as well as more advice and other support but sharon sic ron who runs a Small Charity which usually focuses on education projects says that universities have yet to offer Financial Support to students to happen through the crisis but universities have not been bullies hard to find and also they want no more immediate support back to. The universities or even even by the government ministers should at least consider that and reduction and also feed adoptions help well but at the moment people talk about hardship funds but to most of the Indian Students and Young Students who i have been in contact with more none of them are receiving any such funds universities maintain that they are offering help but students do need to reach out and tell them about their situation students dont always highlight their difficulties and dont contact our support team we were students who were struggling to get in contact straight away the university can provide care packages and Financial Support as well as help finding work. Our students support and wellbeing team is looking into the details and will offer help but with only minor changes expected the lockdown measures on the horizon many of these students will be in the same situation for weeks if not months to come alone far from home and seemingly the forgotten victims of the Coronavirus Crisis such as with stashing r t u k a london. Jury corben is to call for socialist answers to the Coronavirus Crisis in an online rally organized by Pressure Group the Peoples Assembly the fight for our lives around it will take place as evening the former labor leader has said that he hopes it will highlight the fact that health and social inequality have made the effects of the worst on the poorest supporters include environmental activists Extinction Rebellion and unite the union while the u. K. s office for National Statistics claims that People Living in deprived areas are twice as likely to die from covert 19 another shuttle speaker the event is the national cochair of barack u. K. Easy to holborn she joins me now seated there what a preempt your speech this evening but basically whats your message going to be tonight. Its really going to be focused on the adverse to portion impacts of coronavirus on black communities and on black workers not least their her if basic number of deaths of black and asian a minority ethnic key workers that weve seen in the report from the n s that shows the black African Diaspora people are up to 4 times more likely to die than white people and asian people 3 times more likely to die and my request of the government holds a monster the government is really that they need to start doing something about this weve been saying this for weeks we could see that these deaths will happen i hate how you want to come to do something about it what would a socialist answer to this crisis look like then well the slogan for the rally tonight is health before well and so we want the government lives its not the economy they have to think about the people who are on the front line who are at risk who are losing their lives and proper safety in place weve seen repeatedly over the last 2 months that there isnt p. P. For all those key were cares and there has to be and if they cant provide it and they cant provide security safety. Ensure that people are not going to contract coronavirus well as their work then they need to remove them from those front line jobs fair enough what about then jobs in general peoples livelihoods at risk and when we look at the economy the government is already subsidize workers pay through a huge furlough scheme isnt that in a sense a socialist policy that you would applaud would welcome. Well not everybody has access to the game there are so to employed people who are in dire straits right now and the government yet to publish are about to publish a scheme for selfemployed people people have to be go without any funds all of this time there are people who because of the immigration states have no reason selfemployed scheme for those workers i see to just point that out but i know that thats the point im making but it hasnt actually gone live yet so people have had to go for the past 2 months but now any plans and it doesnt cover everybody there is quite strict criteria so there are loads of people or members of my union one of my unions the artesia new england that dont qualify for that and weve been raising our concerns over the last few months with the government about that so the furnace gives 80 percent to employers can top up and most employees happen and dont feel that theyre in a position to use that people are you know experience in a financial detriment as a result so there needs to be proper security and support full support for those people who lost their livelihood sued lost their businesses lost their jobs or are not getting their full pay and you know proper terms and conditions and rights across the board consistency from all employees lisa thank you very much and people can hear what you have to say online tonight of their rallies thank you very much indeed for talking to us before that and that set all of it back with more in just a half an hour from now. 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