A large degree i dont think anybodys honcho to professional sports franchises like this guy he took something that was well a great idea that perilous barely registering in an odd way and has turned it into one of the most valuable interesting exciting franchises in the world im talking about u. F. C. President Dana White Dana how are you my friend im awesome body are your good good i i know its been a interesting fortnight for you i assume youve been sleeping for the last. Strains trip that is u. F. C. 240. 00 night. Yeah vast week was very interesting and. You know basically i could put on an event this saturday night in california at the tachi palace and you know the media went crazy. Government officials went crazy and they eventually got a hold of the powers that be and they me to to stand down and not do this and that. Well you know i have the feeling that the powers that be and the media. I think they probably played less a part with you than your partners and then youre a businessman and i also think that you know how you are valuable your franchises now and you dont want to show the smirch it in any way but theres always going to be naysayers but i guess at some point of disney and he s. P. N. And the top people would each give you a call and say brother were in business together you got to make a call and you made it right 100 percent i could give you what the media thinks. Then they dont control which way i go whatsoever i they literally dont matter at all. It was e. S. P. N. And disney yes. So it was at the in the native American Reservations near fresno right and i guess at some point the vigorish for having a reservation is you get to make the calls on that reservation i guess youd worked out some sort of deal with the tribe not just for this event the saturday night that would have happened but for the next couple months till the country gets its ceilings again right thats thats right if they stood their ground and did this event with me i promise them that when we go back to california theyll be the 1st event that we take to california so were going to be at the taj palace. You know in the more california when when this things over thats going to be our 1st trip back shit that you know what im i take every of that back to lemoore california toci palace when this things over for them for standing by me. Well i know god i know brahman guys from boston value it when somebody makes a commitment and sticks with it i have a feeling you have a lot in their area about that and also a long memory for people who screw chalong the way so yeah good for them they could stand to the extent that they could the w w es going to do some of the vents out of florida which sounds remarkably like this in a pristine sort of petri dish and that theyve been all given the go ahead by the powers that be and i guess you ran up against any any thoughts of doing something down the road after the our folks near fresno down in florida well like you i gave my poor friends over at e. S. P. N. The weekend off so that they could they could relax after last week and then i hit them yesterday again with a date im going to go may 9th so ill get going on a card right now in the office now working on a card for may 9th. He had a card set up for this saturday and i know there are people who watch this it dont know it like some people do but theres a cat name could be because one of those eastern block monsters who wears a hat like you know the cat from the mamas and the papas used to wear when theyre on the sullivan show one of those back with a fur hat and he was going up against Tony Ferguson for you know no toting for isnt his folks d the guy makes to camp him a tumble is elbows look like smurfs this guy is he throws hard he will cut you up it was a crazy exciting bout the key beam had to fall out even before the powers that be sat on it because he got stuck right in a corner teen over near his home that set the case. Yeah so what happened is you know Everybody Knows how this played out but is as this thing started to progress and we got to where we are now we would literally do a bunch of work and the world would change overnight while you know wed wake up the next day and all the rules would change again. So. Hubby been up getting himself into a situation where he got shipped back to russia it wasnt he didnt want to do it it didnt it wasnt his choice it was what happened so you know it was nobodys fault we all made some mistakes leading up to that because we didnt see the future in what was going to happen. But you know. Were going to go now many going to do the the degree of certitude on the other side of this argument that Everybody Knows were going to shut down or you know im not certain of my guesswork i guess to be on that side of it anymore to be honest nobody knows this thing the 6 the oddest thing thats happened in my 66 years on the planet when an ass kicker from iraq coming out dana figured out a way to maybe go ahead with it with a skeleton squad of all volunteers its something that Debbie Debbie is now going to do quite frankly and you know i only say that because i think of that as more like the ice capades and u. F. C. Surreal sport and not you know mcmahons always treated me nicely over the years but im just saying thats a show this is a sport so the 2 different thing right but the fact that this Going Forward in the u. F. C. Is very frustrating to a lot of people they when when you could not jump in they brought in this young kid who is just unbelievable good for good good for him for justin for jumping in at the last minute right yeah no doubt but both guys for accepting the fight with all the circumstances that are going on its tough for guys to train in and you know a lot of unknowns who just trusted me and said all right man who hope will train we dont know where this fight is going to be it we dont know how this is all going to go down but were in. A really appreciate it respect my guys and its one of the reasons that ive been fighting so listen at the end of the day. You know and i dont mean to say this in an arrogant way or anything like that i dont need to do this ok i can go home and quarantine myself too and just sit in my house and build this things over and you know and ride this thing out but but i built that way and i have a commitment to my 350 employees that work for me and expect it you know get paychecks and take care of their families and my over 600 fighters who also have to take care of their families now instead of hiding from this then my point thought process is always like lets get out in front of the this and we beat it how do we you know figure out the solutions to these problems thats the way that i always think its the way that ive always thought and. You know and i appreciate the fact that obviously my employees and my fighters do appreciate that and they stood their ground with me and they were ready to go out and perform so. In this whole thing i think what the fans and the fighters have found out is what we always really knew the media sox ok the media is full. There are a bunch of liars and they only care about themselves me my father my mom my fighters my employees my fans have all sort of you know this is sort of a real cool bonding experience where you can find out whos real and whos not. Yeah the bunker men in the bunker friendships built in the bunker you know it bothered me about the naysayers then and i know theres a lot of guys out there whose rice bowl is to chip away at guys who have you know power a sport or make money its just the way we live and the right now but i didnt like it when they said that they were being frivolous about it i always said she says now i think this cats as serious as a heart attack about the way he does business and every time ive gone to one of that its lockdown i know you take carrier thank you not much to bothered you particularly when you heard him say hes being completions here yeah so all that you know that i dont care about the health and safety of the fighters its all we care about this didnt just pop up at the coronavirus with health and safety in this sport is something that we look at every day and take very seriously and the reason that we have the track record that we have in our track record is nobodys ever died and theres never been a serious injury in the history of the usa its because we spend the money to make sure that these people are safe. And you know that the media is what it is its its always going to be that way and its not its not Getting Better its getting worse. Last week im going to give you an example. I didnt exist i didnt interview with it with a guy named Rhett Okamoto from e. S. P. N. And i told him that hes the only guy i did this interview with i told him that i was and i was i was in the process of securing an island and we were going to do. You know fights on this fight im in and i had to do International Flights there because we cant get International People into the into the country right now and if i need to invite only in the u. S. Im going to smoke all the u. S. Talent and were not going to have enough people to fight i need my International Talent pool to make this thing work. People start writing stories off that story and then i was hearing that u. F. C. 249. 00 was going to be on the island and i just bought. At no point that id ever say anything like that people dont give me if theyre right they take this they just write basically whatever they want and dont care if its true or not nobody ever calls the fact checker any of this type of stuff i mean just straight up lines people were just you can not believe anything that the media sensed and for whatever creepy reason these guys have even people that cover our sport they did not want us to 49 to happen no matter what just because they didnt want it to happen and they felt like they could have the power to stop it. Thats what the media is economics you can see why dana helms the sport lie has fandom his d loyalty and thats why its sold for well go back and look at the sale i think its north of 4000000000 with that sort of money i thought the island he bought might have been manhattan hey folks will be right back to talk about you have seen the Bigger Picture right after this with dana white you have seen president on Dennis Miller plus one. Oh its a cold 1000 pandemic change the International System the u. S. Trying to relations been altered and is the west experiencing buyers remorse when english. Thinking of getting a music on the ones we got in here shows no problem was as he didnt know until he was trapped in this tiny little wired coach you dont need a crate with him he will. Freaking out and she will want to spray him anywhere near. 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And hey folks welcome back to Dennis Miller plus one our guest today and broke at the all black forum because when you go to fight he and rogan make johnny cash look like he dug pastels i mean its absolutely crazy. That broke out the thought so de de lay president of the u. F. C. Were talking about 249. 00 but i want to talk about the sport just in general where its such an interesting tale day an area it really is a an american Success Story no wonder youre so big on on the american scene what sort of state do you find the saying at the beginning tell tell me about stumbling across i know you are a boxer how do you find u. F. C. Where he is and what your steps yes so so me and my partners the fertitta brothers we we grew up together and lorenzo and i had always said we wanted to do something in the fight business and. We started one night frank his brother and i were at the Hard Rock Hotel and casino in vegas and there was a u. F. C. Guy there named john lewis and we saw him and frank said ive always wanted to learn the Ground Fighting you know jujitsu and i said well i know they got one over we started talking to him and we set up a lesson for monday at our offices and we started taking jujitsu in became addicted to it and fell in love with it and john lewis started to bring some of the u. F. C. Guys in the train with us and we were blown away how smart these guys were and and you know all the stigma that was attached to the u. F. C. At that time you know it was all bullshit these guys were actually really smart good guys with families and not what we expected. So i started representing tito ortiz and Chuck Labelle at the time and through that i got a great huge contract battle with the old owner meyerowitz over tito ortiz his contract and one day he flipped down on me and said there is no more money i probably dont even have an open enough money to put one more event on and i was like damn we hung up the phone and i called the fertitta brothers and i go i think the u. F. C. Is in trouble and i think we can buy it and i think we should and we started the negotiations and a couple months later we own the u. F. C. For 2000000. 00 but attempt play you almost get the 3 letters and some beat up chainlink fence octagon right id of a little bit better theres a not a Real Infrastructure to point was thats literally all we all know is like 26 contracts and an old wooden octagon and those 3 letters you have see which really hadnt even been trademarked or protected at that time and now you move it up till today and folks im telling you it is a world wide event and when he talks about those fighters if you ever watch one of these 24 sevenths about these guys there are some author has says of them and there are hard roads travelled there are guys who have been saved by this forget they were always worried about people dying there have been people burst again in that octagon man the commitment broke lets take this fight that just didnt come off to be business face again hes probably the best in the world right now but quite frankly his thing is to get you down and he is just on you forget it its a straight jacket the guys a genius on the mat hes like dan gable when he used to wrestle in college and then theres the strikers Tony Ferguson more like that coming in with the elbows and the kid who is replacing him quite honestly i mean i would love to see compete but this fight was going to be a bloodbath between gay cheater and ferguson right dana. Yeah yeah very very violent fight that was going to be. Were just trying to figure out how to make a fight happen still you know so these guys can both. Get this thing under the belt and then the winner will be ready for up be when you know he comes back hopefully in september or october or whatever the hells going on with this stuff at that point in time what are you looking at matt i know you said youre going to give disney and have believe me i grimace feel like the chino and godfather trying to get out me keep pulling him back in all of this and i guess he called it again because everythings the thing and. How what would you look for may 9th which you would which are you dont want to tip your cards or anything but would you be looking at could be even ferguson or would you be looking at gauging 1st in or would you be looking at a wholly different card. Yeah you cant do a b. Because its ramadan now so hes a hes a devout muslim so ramadan is going on hes out till september october so yeah i mean gauge in ferguson is a fight to make its such a good fight to the top ranked guys in the world. And like you said its a very violent fun fight so. Yeah i would like to make that fight again but im now one of my 4 cards back now. Ive had to postpone for these cards so i have nothing but talent right now im going to build an unbelievable the best card ever made like the 1st prelim of the night youre going to go holy thats the 1st pretty woman and i did all the crazy for it up to the many different. If i see if i see conor diaz anywhere but at the top of the times. This is the soonest you know martial arts they get a history of the planet or if god is not up to that last fight that you know youve got to give it to sorority i mean nobody is more of a gamer and a history of the game that serota get i mean the guys won i believe for buyouts but im telling you come on im a greater came in that night theres just some guys who throw sparks right dana soon as i looked at him that night and he looks ready to preen man and he just killed him right off the bat. Yeah unbelievable performance i mean everybody was questioning you know where it was at with all the things youve been through hes been off for a long time you know how is he going to look and he looked damn good yeah. Were talking to dana like you have see president we when we said were going to talk to dana we got a boat load of social Media Questions let me lay a few on here and trust me i have a cursory knowledge of u. F. C. In that i listen i never miss about and ever miss pay per view a tragic goal i read a lot about it there are people who are dug deep on the u. F. C. And they all showed up for questions here Robbie Jackson on facebook will call b. And tyrone be a fight for u. F. C. 249 when it returns. Listen. People say stuff publicly you know i want this fight i want that fight you know people are calling each other out. But it doesnt mean that that they necessarily want a certain fight so it doesnt always you can always listen to what you hear people say and that theyre calling this guy out of that guy out listen obviously thats a great fight to make i make that fight the minute im telling i think rogan is unbelievable fer a guy like me who doesnt know it all a guy who makes you feel like youre in a mans sport you know that you know who knows it who lives that life i think grogans 10 out of 10 for you. Hes incredible leaf he i actually credit him for part of the success. That the sport has had because when you listen to rogan think about this when we bought the company the one thing that was going to be the hardest part to explain a breakdown to the casual fan to bring them in is the ground game and rogan is so good at breaking down the ground game while its happening hes 2 steps ahead of where they are actually in a fight and hes telling you this is whats going to happen next and then hes going to go over here and hes going to do that and after a while people really understand and get the ground game broken his and the other thing about rogan is. When you listen to him talk about the u. F. C. And when hes breaking down a fight you know he just not a talking head whos getting paid to do this this guy loves what hes talking about is knowledgeable about it and its just his passion comes through in every. Every broadcast of us yeah plus it gets jacked up for man when somebody says i mean you know you do hear that wow when but guys long for that cave wall drawing stuff and rogen and plus after the match nobody makes me laugh harder than when somebody is going off at a completely just. Endorphin driven thing and judges defense of the life it sort of leans back and hes laughing because some of these guys get so brazen after the match its just an outer loop blast all right indeed barry on facebook said i would be curious to get this there i would be curious to know if he feels the u. F. C. Fanbase has diminished and more and more fights are pushed to pay per view subscription sites what are its thoughts on the streaming services would he ever think about creating the ultimate fighter series again we have 3 questions there streaming is a got its simple fact is streaming series what are you going to do go back to you know c ds are 8 tracks a tear or are. Exactly sure emus hear it and whats crazy is if you think about this pandemic that is going on right now it has really been massive for streaming i mean everybody were streaming right now i mean you know how many people are going to live on instagram and all these other things and Disney Disney plus just just hit 50000000 subscribers and the list goes on and on listen streaming is here we were one of the 1st ones to jump into it and believe in it and its been fantastic for our business and long term i always had this just disclose all in this dream that i would build this this were. It is asian to be a global sport right it would be a time in a day when the whole world could watch a fight at the same time on the same channel and were getting closer and closer to that now. Its about to happen and i love the things that were doing right now with e. S. P. N. And and theyve been incredible partners to us and im looking forward to the next 5 years with these guys death and thus when they call a few days that its a brother were taken heavy in coming here weve got to move this you do it is the business we have chosen weve been spending a delightful have fire with dana white prez in the u. F. C. Lets wrap it up with sam cohn on facebook asked im interested to see this what sort of memory it is whats your favorite us you have seen memory of all time and. And the other question that i had about the ultimate fighter the ultimate fighter is coming back were working on the right now so i think at the end sounds like great then you can trace back as he set up people. Just just igniting their dream that it was great to watch very exhilarating. I love i love every minute that of that of being a part of that experience now and my greatest you have seen moment its so hard to pick one because theres been so money when you take a company from where this thing was to where we are today theres just so many incredible moments and you know our 1st a 1st time back on on pay per view our 1st time on fox our 1st time on e. S. P. N. You know so many milestones breaking out week as think about all they had were whites and. Events that have happened at Madison Square garden we finally get into new york and destroy the all time great record at Madison Square garden 80000000 dollar gate and the closest thing to it is 11000000 so i mean i could go on for days with amazing milestones. My favorite moment recently i was in vegas for a fight tom brady walked in its like literally the man blocks and goes up to mark davis and hugs zoom and a hairdo thunderstorm breaks up between the 2 diverse affronts. The next i knew it was big then oh and the next day every story in the world was about brady go into the al and i said they have arrived everybody is watching whats happening ringside there and you run a hell of a hell of a blot mad youre like rick in casablanca then i appreciate your time im so happy for your success youve always been a mensch and if im if those people are watching from that reservation in fresno sorry im blanking on name trust me this guy ill bring it there he doesnt deliver false false favors like that take care because you are a retard. Right there you go then away thank you dana begs your distiller plus one or she appreciated. Humanity is on the edge of a precipice thanks to continuing destruction of the natural world. You just seem laid out a lot of bills thats a completely secret losing much of a later period and. The people who make. Less than nothing you can hold up. The pen you. Got over the war. Or the. 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