Here so joining us and im glad because ive interviewed this gentleman before and hes certainly a interesting look questionis mad so this will be easy for me dr ayman as the c. E. O. Medical director of the amun clinics which has the Worlds Largest database of brain scans hes written many books on the subject and has a New York Times best selling author many times over his latest book the end of Mental Illness is currently available in stores and online doctoring and how are you my friend hi donna yes what a joy to see you again. Yeah nice to see you and im glad youre safe with your loved ones and all that much listen lets talk about practicing we were chatting before hand and i said since were doing this and theres a bit of an overlap why dont you tell me what youd like to talk about i love the phrase you used said tell me about practicing Mental Hygiene during the coronavirus expound on that. Well Mental Hygiene is just as important as washing your hands during this time we literally have to disinfect our thoughts i call it killing the ants the automatic maggot of thoughts that steal your happiness they steal your joy and they actually damage your immune system so what ive been teaching my patients now for over 30 years is you actually dont have to believe every stupid thing you think that thoughts lie they lie a lot and its actually our uninvestigated thoughts that cause anxiety and depression which are now just rampant in our society and it was about 30 years ago i had a really hard day at work where i saw 4 suicidal patients and 2 couples who hated each other and 2 kids teenage kids who ran away from home and i. Was so tired at the end of the day and came home to an ant infestation in my house and as i was sort of cleaning them up im lying aunt automatic negative thoughts thoughts just come into your mind and ruin your day and im like my patients are infested and the next day at work i brought a can of ant spray and i started teaching them how to get read of these bad thoughts that are damaging our mind and now with the 24 hour news cycle of you know theres this many deaths this many awful things happening you really need to like look at the news for 20 minutes and then turn it off otherwise the ants will just stack on each other there and then attack you and its part of the air. And of Mental Illness we need to actually develop mental discipline. So that we can rock our mind in ways that help us rather than herd us would you say that half of the battle of being at dealing with ants is being well aware that thats what youre dealing with the moment of cognizance that they are indeed an ant. So theres really nowhere in school where we teach children or even adults to not believe everything they think thats and i have Childrens Book called captain snout and the super power questions actually on Facebook Live my niece and i my 10 year old niece and i read it recently and we need to develop this mental discipline where we think about our thoughts so heres a simple exercise whenever you feel sad or mad or nervous or out of control write down what youre thinking and then just ask yourself if its true if you absolutely now that this is true and right now so many bad things are happening and they are i mean my mom and dad just got out of the hospital both of them had kobe had 19 and you can just imagine all the bad thoughts i had when they were in the hospital i couldnt visit them im a doctor i usually am the one that you know supervises their care and but you know theyre going to die 1st thought i have. But they didnt in so are an undisciplined mind i could have been crying all the law but just knowing i dont know whats going to happen im going to do the best i can in this situation. And quite frankly all of us are dying and so getting to a rational mind and by killing the air helps you manage during a pandemic but it helps you manage to just do in your life on a regular day to day basis which can be hard. You know what ive heard from more than a few people that their their biggest worry about the cove at 19 is almost not about their own health for some reason people think well i can beat this or if i get it i get it its worried about infecting a loved one or something ive heard of for more than a few people that they want to practice this because the guilt of that would be worse for them than actually contract the illness themselves if you heard there from any of your i dont know i dont know if youre still doing sessions over the phone or by skype or any of that but people are really worried about that more than their own health almost yeah now our 8 am and clinics are open and now were actually scanning and parson but were doing virtually Everything Else virtually and i saw one statistic recently that what you said is the most common worry ill get it ill beat it but ill give it to my elderly parents and be the cause of their death which is why we should be doing the right thanks you know i thought when i became a psychiatrist my job would be to lower your anxiety when i realize thats really not my job for a whole bunch of my patients have to raise their anxiety because they dont worry be happy people actually die the earliest from accidents and preventable illnesses and so you know if we think of the spring breakers in florida they didnt have that nothings i so i want us to have an f. Ing saturday we stay home we wash our hands we are appropriate but at the same time not so much that we raise our stress hormones which can damage our brain. Once again were talking to dr daniel amen and the book is the end of Mental Illness currently available in stores and online this morning i was looking at the internet nice saw that chris cuomo whos a. Newscaster for c. N. N. Was showing his lungs get im intrigued that youre still doing at the clinic brain scans and im wondering what is it showing you about the effects of corona on the brain are you seeing anything yet. Well in the end of Mental Illness i have no monic so what ive learned from the imaging work we do if you want to keep your Brain Healthy or rescue it if its headed to the dark place we have to prevent or treat the 11 major risk factors that steal your mind and that makes up a large part of the book and the mnemonic i created as bright minds so if you know what that stands for and what to do well the 2nd i in bright minds is immunity and infections and one of the things that i learned is that infections can attack your brain and give you meant told health. So for example lyme disease is a very common and they think its now actually at epidemic proportions that it is a major cause of psychiatric illness and other infections have been known now to call out timers disease so what about coded 19 about 30 percent of people who have an active infection lou their sense of smell and their sense of taste its affecting the brand and we in their number of cases of meningitis turn satellite as secondary to this by risk so we need to strengthen our immune system your number one defense against code 19 is your bodys immune system and doing things to strengthen and are just so important. Well when i hear about immune system i always think back to the original star trek when scotty would say i cant divert crystal power away right now i have to keep it in for the shields at some point extraneous every instance need to be put to the side here you cant sweat the small stuff or he might find yourself sweating something at 103 degrees youve got to divert all energy quite frankly of the staying exercised sleep well eat well you know that here do all the the things that theyre putting out there as far as social distancing but you cant waste i have big stuff about an ocular kenya well and that actually damages your immune system when youre angry when youre arab or when youre watch the news not stop theres this great book that was published i think in 1979 by Norman Cousins who is the editor of the saturday review and he had an auto immune disorder called nkomo seen spondylitis where his immune system attacked us on 9 caused him to be in great pain and none of the medications worked and hes like ok im done with Traditional Medicine he locked himself in a room with 500 hours of comedies like laurel and hardy and Charlie Chaplin and at the end the 500 hours is illness went away so learning to laugh so dont watch contagion at night with the family. Last night we watched mom and me that we watched meet the parents let me watch something that just makes you happy because we need that now where you bring your attention where you focus will determine how you feel. We are being joined for the entire show by dr daniel amen and once again im glad to have him today i found him last year to be a very wise man about how you can stay in your lane in your own head which is very important times like this hes written many books on the subject of Mental Health and his latest book you can see it over his right shoulder there. The end of Mental Illness i want to talk to him more about the book itself now that weve sort of talked about coronavirus in this 1st segment we will do so all right after this on Dennis Miller plus one. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe from. The isolation pool community. Are you going the right way or are you being led. By. What is true or is faith. In a world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or remain in the shallows. Hey folks welcome back to Dennis Miller plus one once again our guest is psych high interest in brain disorder specialist dr daniel amen and hes written many books on the subject of Mental Health his latest book you see it there over his right shoulder like a bestselling epilepsy is the end of Mental Illness and it is currently available in stores and online i want to talk about the book doc but i also was looking in your notes and i was intrigued that you were talking to you said your friend miley cyrus during these times and i thought boy the strange friend fellow is it seems tell me about miley cyrus you became friends what do you make of the young lady. So about 10 years ago she came to see me and she says this publicly she was really struggling with anxiety and found my book change your brain change your life in a bookstore. And shes tad sobhani sort of. But when the pandemic make it she had a panic attack like so many people and it was a sunday night and as i walked her off the ledge or back from the ledge she said will you do this with my 105000000 Instagram Community and so the next day we did an Instagram Live and then she created a bright minded series that she has been doing on instagram and has just done so well and its one of the things i teach her that when youre really anxious and you learn how to manage that ultimately you have to give it away to someone else because it is in the act of giving that you actually create your own support group making it more likely youll continue to do the right things so. Her shes really very smart and. When and you know she clares her head and she does the right things she just has influence and literally millions of young peoples lives. You know what its funny it starts out as a rather trivial pursuit i think accruing followers on the internet and then at some point you do realize you have a 105000000 human beings many of them at the most impressionable age of their life hanging on here a free for that in and of itself would get me and i exactly attack well if you can share things and. A lot of people dont understand this its really in the act of giving that people feel better their you develop a sense of purpose in the pandemic and then youre less worried about your health your security and other focused theres a chinese saying that says if you want to be happy for an hour take a noun up if you want to be happy for year inherit a fortune. But if you want to be happy for the rest of your life help others and its just a great place to direct your attention because it would set where you bring your attention determines how you feel and if you bring it to being helpful you feel so much better about yourself yeah i hope the higher ups in china run with that right now and start sending us some of their ventilators quite at the this point. I love j. T. Sentiments at lunch hes proverbs elect chinese ventilators even more were talking to dr daniel evan in the book is the end of Mental Illness strong title youre almost such yourself up for you know detractors and as well when you come up with something thats strong break down the book for me in a medicines what do you want to hear what is what to explain the title explain the book. And so its really important so i have a double Board Certified psychiatrist ive been doing this for nearly 40 years restarted and looking at it in 30 years ago and almost immediately what i realize is most psychiatric illnesses are not Mental Health issues at all but rather they are brain Health Issues that steal your mind this one idea changes everything get your brain right and your mind will follow most people dont want to see a psychiatrist they wont want to be labeled is defective or abnormal but everybody wants a better brain and so the book really argues we should change this to brain Health Issues that steal your mind and then well eat better well exercise better well stop letting children had soccer balls with their head and play tackle football brain damaging sports one of the big lessons from imaging is that mild traumatic brain injury ruins peoples lives and nobody knows about it because most psychiatrists actually never look at the organ they treat so i adopted my 2 nieces 15 and 10 i actually dedicate the book to them theyre loaded for Mental Illness they have a Family History multiple suicide schizophrenia depression bipolar disorder addictions the genes only load the gun its what happens to us that pulls the trigger and unfortunately for them they were raised by parents who struggled with addiction depression Domestic Violence in about 4 years ago Child Protective Services took them out of the toxic environment they were and the girls were traumatized. By foster care and the whole idea behind the end of Mental Illness is how do i hand it in them and in their eyes and grand babies and its really this bright minds blueprint you want to keep your Brain Healthy or rescue it if its headed to the dark place we have to go after the risk factors so you know dennis most people see a cardiologist have actually never had a heart attack theyre there to prevent it i see it day and how do they prevent it they go after all the risk factors high cholesterol heart hypertension obesity diabetes we need to do exactly the same thing for psychiatry and to my colleagues all the time psychiatrist broke up our outcomes in psychiatry are literally not better than they were in the 1950s no other branch of medicine has that core track record and the reason is you know were when psychiatry and neurology used to be the same and about 100 years ago they got divorced and neurology not the brain and psychiatry the mind was a divorce because the brain imaging work i do clearly show its your brain if i optimize the physical functioning of your brain your mood is better your anxieties less your focus is better and now weve gone to a pill for every symptom you have without ever changing your diet getting you to exercise or stop believing every stupid thing you thanks. So an unwieldy property settlement in a divorce way back when you know when i was in my mid twenties i had a shrink who changed my life honest to god he was so insightful when it 1st started making a dent on me simultaneously i had a friend who was an Orthopedic Surgeon and i start the melding of those 2 which i think this is the the ground you might be straddling dr and then where you have some sort of a pragmatic approach to the brain that at the end yields a healthy results for the mind as you say and the pragmatism what would be some of the things you would do to help establish the fire wall for these 2 young beloved nieces of us right now as far as put holding off holding in abeyance the problems they might inherit so the 1st thing we did was taught them how to eat right eat to optimize your bread and did you know theres a linear correlation between the number of fruits and vegetables you eat a day and your level of happiness up to 8 so people who eat 8 stories of prince and vegetables are happier than sex who are happier than for 2 and so and so we check ange their diet we got them out of the chronically stressful situation gave them simple supplements multiple vitamins and fish oil bitumen day we looked at their breath pains the older one had a damaged front and it was from fetal alcohol facts or they were living in a mold phil house but accept it or not i prepared a chamber to increase blood flow for her brain and both these kids are a students happy social. But we have to be careful by doing all the right things for that im so for example bright minds b. S. For blood flow thats why exercise is so important ours retirement and aging that its new learning is in fla make. Men until Health Problems and thats why fish oil and probiotics so helpful. And were not letting them hit soccer balls with their do dangerous thing that most parents never think about because they did when they were young you should call your next book at get them in a helmet because pragmatic information like that really saves a lot of pain down the road doesnt it. You know if you said hey daniel single most important thing youve learned from 160000 scans mild traumatic brain injury ruins peoples lives and nobody knows because nobodys looking. There and then you know all ask people who ever had a head injury and theyll go now but i can see it on the scan and then i literally have to ask them to and ty and Marvin Fleming want to i did the big n. F. L. Study when the n. F. L. Was having trouble with the truth about drama football one of my players who play tight end for the Miami Dolphins or the packers right and the packers has 5 super bowl rings and a mike marvin to be ever had an injury and i was sort of hes a starting tight end and hes like no no no. And um and his brain was really damaged and im like well what about the 4th book all and he had literally told me no 10 times and then he tells me this story hes in college at the university of utah and hes on vacation he drives to california hes in a volkswagen bug 67. 00 and his car gets into an accident on a Mountain Pass and it falls a 150 feet in the river bed below where hes knocked unconscious nap to drag him out mike how to forget. That people forget it and protect it most people dont know your brain is soft about that consistency of soft butter your skull is hard and has her sharp bony ridges damage the brain and you damage the mind and the end of Mental Illness will begin with a revolution in the brain how where how that like brain protection are going to become just routine like you dont let your children smoke because you know obviously thats a bad thing for them youre not going to put them at risk with sex to vittie and go did it so they should too. I almost think it should be proforma that there should be a brain scan taken at bar mitzvah search communions men there should be another one taken at their twenties a kids circum never gave those narrow straits of partying and then probably one and every 10 years just to keep up it would probably be a great proactive thing you could do for yourself nobody loves their bright i mean right isnt that crazy i mean in that its because nobody sees it you can see the ring through your skin around your belly and you can do something when youre on happy with it but when i looked at my brain and 1991 it wasnt that good because i had bad habits and i fell in love with it and i wanted it to be better brain envy is when i developed. You know freud was just wrong it was about 2 and a half feet too low in 40 years. Never said hes not a lot of penis envy and what people need is a brain damned thing you want to care about 3 pounds of fat between your ears if he targeted the wrong helmet because they say in the cyclists left it appears that this is our 1st show that we did by remote from it had such a literate an informed guess dr daniel amen and he is a brain disorder specialist and a psychiatrist in the new book as you see over his shoulder is the end of Mental Illness and its currently available in stores and online take it thank you for taking time out from your busy quarantine doc to talk to me and go go play with those kids that youve adopted and keep them keep them in fine fettle thank you for your time dr thank you denis stay safe. The outbreak of the spread of the corona virus has become a black swan event for the Global Economy is no longer whether the u. S. 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