By. Now right ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard and as i promised this gentleman that were going to be talking to for the for the entire show today ive known him for lots and lots and lots of years and i got to tell you off camera he is as wonderful even more so wonderful than you would imagine by seeing and hearing him talk on camera hes lined up a line on media media and legal analysts very important he should serve sent through roll lytle welcome aboard my friend thank you sir thank you thank you thank you and heres to be able to do it on the fly which we understand by virtue of our 10 year in terrestrial conventional talk radio where something broke down all the cup. Absolutely absolutely and youre always had to improvise you always had a flight and there are no scripts in talk radio and i think thats thats really helped i know its helped me and i know youve told me that its a big advantage for you its well so let me let me start thanks way if i may you were asleep you were getting in we talked about this the other day if someone was asleep or in a time warp or time machine or. That woke up and you know they were they went to sleep or maybe the best way to put it is is a few months a few months they slept for a few months they were ill whatever they woke up and ate i now thrust into this world and lets focus on the media part of it obviously what are they seeing what kind of shock are they going through. Well right we had we had spoken about this the idea of somebody being in a time tunnel or some some type of a of a coma wrong name wrong term but maybe a time warp others a couple of months or a year from now 1st from the media point of view i think what they would do is they would look up and say hey wheres all the local new its gone where is the late night news where i dont see the news that we used to be and see with and the reason for that is a couple of reasons number one were seeing for the 1st time by virtue of this horrible event whos really good whos not were also going through and i know you get these ive received media emails every day about name the industry name the Company Layoffs are suspending our retirement you name it dividends because Something Like this is never happened when you have in that commercial Enterprise People who are not selling when commerce stops that is unable to pay the Commercial End of radio and media and t. V. So it all ceases so the 1st thing when this regroup when people retrench and get back theyre going to say we dont need this anymore this anymore or this anymore because one is too expensive but the public changed its taste and what were doing right now is were not going for fluff and glitz and glamor which is nice were giving people raw information which by the way steve a lot of people in kids today in folks this is their world so as long as youre authentic youre going to succeed thats whats going to change oh yeah absolutely and i think its a shame whats whats happening to local news newspapers you know youre going under firing people laying people off cutbacks cutting salaries etc but lets focus on also the way. The obvious theres the obvious you tune in people are doing their shows from home people are doing their show as you know from from far from their basement or wherever you have hosts that are in studio or sitting far away from each other theres no more studio audience is at the late night shows and the at the shows that are on during the day like the view for instance but theres also theres also other fundamental differences in the in the way i think you know every citizen now. Is a potential contributor and has been giving their point of view giving their stories giving their fears giving their questions they become a part of the news presentation on so many outlets. Precisely citizen and civilian journalism even idea where im broadcasting now from just out the window is the comfort the u. S. N. S. Comfort and when the comfort got you can imagine there was a tremendous throng of individuals and next to the conventional press where their press pass there were people with cell phones just taking a picture saying here i am and steve. I dont want to speak out of turn here but a lot of people that we know people who have been in the Television Business particular and the news misses have thought that that presentation cannot possibly be done by a civilian by a citizen somebody whos never been in the trenches somebody whos not a who doesnt have a press pass somebody who didnt understand how this the works when their version of this showing perhaps a a a a an excitement to this event might be even Better Television than that before youre also finding out you know steve there was a great line attributed to roger ailes i hope it is but i love the line they ask when they do you think that journalist should get a license and he i believe or someone said you only need a license to cut hair so what were seeing right now is people who are excellent at doing what this is and by the way you 2 platforms social platforms alternative foreign media there is a bevy of cuffing the of news sources guess who guess who the beneficiary of this is the consumer because steve you and i have to be better you and i have to be able to compete you and i have to blow these people out of the water if its going to be its going to thin the herd so to speak so its actually beneficial to the consumer of news but i and before we get to it to the future which you kind of address in your in your 1st answer i do want to focus on. Misinformation because with the right alternative news sources with these new news sources with social media with the average citizen being able to use their cell phone to take pictures which may be legitimate which may not be legitimate i mean there is so much mis and dis information out there especially as it relates to the virus and that makes it all that much worse. Great point 1st things i remember one day and not to mention names but anybody whos ever listened to. Any old age of talk radio that we knew on the weekends even today what are you going to hear is everything i did was a snake oil because theyre not all snake oil but this information like you cannot believe this information misinformation not information and then people said oh what are you going to do buyer beware coffee at end door big deal all of a sudden steve i dont want to say the left or the right but there is a move to shut news down certain news what theyve done is theyve gone after privacy considerations intellectual property violations Steve Malzberg cant say that because thats copyrighted Steve Malzberg cant say that because that belonged to somebody else then we get to hate steve can say that because of hate and the next thing theyre going into is falsity steve for 25000. 00 and a new car tell me what descent from a should is tell me you who has been through every aspect there is tell me anything youve ever heard in any platform that did not disinformed this inform get it wrong i was in a radio show that we have the wrong lottery numbers out you know people said. The reason youre hearing what youre hearing right now is its not because they care about for example of this think dont give up do after fox news as we know because youre giving us a posy bad idea as you regarding the right were going to get that were going to get to that few minutes that but yeah. But i believe in god hes revealed all. That theyre just theyre just craving all the information they can get and you know what it really is up to the consumer to decipher and anybody purposely putting out false information to harm people that that could be a different story but well get to that again with your legal you put on your legal hat in a chair just a moment but the future like i said you address that a little bit in the in the Opening Statement that your mate but but how much change i mean do you really think and i dont know because it could this this goes beyond just media because into every aspect of our lives are we going to wear masks from how are we going to stay apart from people are we going to go back to ballgames are we going to could you know congregate with our friends so as it applies to media are we going to see people continue to do from home or are we going to see people continue to do sitting apart from their partner because are we going to see shows without studio audience is Going Forward i mean is this going to be permanent yes yes yes yes yes and yes but theres going to be a change but this is a correction listen there always has been something cataclysmic catastrophic thats happened which can a traffic for the people who are supplanted people who are moved but lets talk about this for a moment the idea that social distancing there is going to be and i give it to my beloved wife its her line its she always as we say hash tag correction 2020 its a correction name of the media broadway more movies independent film right now were asking people we have political conventions the idea is the for the longest time we always had this idea of people contagious and get away from people and it never meant anything to us the culture that we ever did was start a call for you know if we were i was at. In a year from now if you want to go into this bubble suspended animation come back in a year the 1st thing youre going to say is why are people standing so far away i want to shake somebodys hand and they look to me like what are you kidding also masks nascar going to be a part of our routine you know for i could go into some for the reasons as well but thats perhaps for the show but youre going to see people doing this because people are going to become so used to this theyre going to be asking why am i not wearing that what what if the you know theres no corona or coke but its going to mutate so named a platform spectator sport ballroom dancing graduations staved were a social group why do the people hate solitary confinement because were i succeeded everything we do was with people so if you take that away everything we do. Every correction 2020 i think or your wife hit it right on the head all right well i know stay where you are folks i hope we have piqued your appetite i want you to stay there because were going to take a break in the combat with the main course more with our friend lionel of lionel media on eat the press. With the coronavirus now officially declared a pandemic the world faces the additional burden of an Oil Market Collapse this comes at a time when demand for crude was already flowing some are calling this the ultimate perfect storm how this all ends is place against. This is a story of women and women was troubled histories and complex cold cases you know some of us did lee leave who lives out there. Who were not. The person that. The cheesiness of the day are considered the most dangerous of criminals shes in a still. All the off 23 hours of the day tell me that its not enough and it. Will give women on death row. So much but then we really dont need thats what this whole lockdown is teaching so many millions of people but most of their lives are all wasted on stuff thats unnecessary costly redundant and doesnt promote social good at all. And welcome back to eat the press im steve mulgan we are rejoined. By line o. Line of media media and legal analyst you know him hell love them and youve got him for the rest of the show so like not let me any of you brought up fox news you tweet that you touch you tease it a little bit subtly unintentionally so its the no no no thats good thats good so let me tell you and thats discussed what theyre doing to fox news there is this organized effort now to claim that fox news has been presenting this information as we discussed in the last segment dangerously so to put peoples lives at risk theyre saying that most of their viewers are 65 and over and theyre sitting there and these poor dumb 65 year old over people cant think on their own and theyre getting all this if this information thats going to tell them for instance 74 journalists lined up professors i should say 74. 00 professors have written a letter to Rupert Murdoch and his son. Over at lakeland over at fox and they said that fox is a danger to Public Health presenting misinformation on the coronavirus you who are yours lionel on the left that are better predicting legal action former Clinton Administration official Michael Bromwich who represented the cabin or accuser christine blasi for and by the way Andrew Mccabe said it can lead to a legal bloodbath and you have vanity fairs gave sherman saying that theyre scared over there at fox news so. I mean i know why theyre doing this and i know that someones going to file this in court but what what what what this the what are the chances that they could actually harm or damage aside from the reputation of fox news the entity that is fox news. None the only chance they have to worry about is perhaps sanctions being leveled against them for filing spurious claims look lets talk about what this is is their 1st issue is there a cause of action for a News Organization to give information which is negligent now i dont want to play around with what is is is mean and all that but a live for example has been defined in court by many many cases as a misrepresentation of fact with the intent to deceive now that by analogy would apply here if fox news makes a mistake says Something Like oh i dont know dr found who said from where im asked go where on mass go outside dont go outside every 3 minutes it changes now was that misleading misleading was it it was it intended to deceive no was it just an error or do think does stuff happen so they would have they would have to go into a court and perhaps a jury and explain that fox news or anybody for that matter not only gave information out which was negligent but there was something that would do is a degree of recklessness now the law knows libel slander defamation that we understand but for the 1st time in a new organization if ox or or or m s n b c or anybody were to say this is the reason why we said it or better yet steve mall virg says in my opinion covert is the worst disease in the world or its nothing its your opinion we dont have to go and borrow from the libel and defamation rule because the man opined is that if somebody takes listen to you by the way the doctrine is called promissory estoppel or a stop or when you justifiably rely if Steve Malzberg or fox or anybody goes on and says let me tell you couric when. And his or her meissen does not work does work and youre not qualified that might be something but during the hyperbole during the discussion during the opinion regarding something a vis note for somebody to make a mistake and youre going to go to court and sue them for misinformation implying steve not just eroni is information but an intent to deceive to throw people off good luck i promise you what you know would not have the press of that of all the successful well you know who are griese with you and we could take a look at this megan kelly formerly a fox formerly of course of the elite of n. B. C. News she tweeted out in response to this whole thing anyone filing such a lawsuit would be laughed out of court and likely sanction by the court for filing a frivolous lawsuit so i guess i dont know if shes a great legal mind she does have a legal background so you know great minds do think alike i would imagine. But steve there are people also im very familiar with the Online Platforms and i think theyre fascinating because some of the greatest stuff ive ever seen has been from quote civilian leadership there are people who have said the most asterisks stories about what this is about. The 1st amendment provides freedom to press freedom to explain freedom to report and if you are negligent you know if if you are just you made a mistake you didnt report it how about this you didnt report it enough what about this deep you didnt report it at all theres misfeasance none fees and mount fees and doing what if you did not cover something what if you didnt cover it enough what this is is again i mentioned before theyre trying to go after certain targeted opinion based upon 1st of all intellectual property then later i hate speech now misinformation im trying to imagine what would the next one be maybe something involving inciting a riot or or discourse or something because clearly and i dont want to be a question or a mind reader here but they the intention of these folks is not to prevent misinformation is to stop fux is to stop just them absolute does the 1st thing 5 should say is oh ok lets do it you have your information now were going to give you ours lets talk about it things that have been said about president robert that would apply as well right right are or does that how they go there what theyre doing is they go into the im sorry they go into the early days of foxs treatment of this virus and they did put out sean hannity for instance saying you know if youre healthy you have 99 percent or whatever and theyre saying oh my god the 65 year old plus audience is getting all this this information is resulting in death i agree with you have a non legal person but i agree with you it seems some fretless is so ridiculous and all they have to do is point to for one the mayor of new york city who you know had to be dragged kicking and screaming just a couple of weeks ago to close it. But the new York City Schools are told people go about their lives so i agree i think its all ridiculous initiates another attempt when these professors sign onto a letter you know you know theres an all teary motive in my view in my opinion i know my opinion now i want everybody to learn more about why i know. And by the way you talk about you 2 you do 3 shows a day on you to tell folks 1st where they could find you and then were back tracked and talk about where you started and how we came to meet each other its very simple line donation on you tube at 8 am to b. M. And 8 pm during this and there are its part of the symphony of information and as far as how we met i rather not go into that but how we met provides only i can i say from the days when we were part of the brother in on what was i believe in i hate to say was my mum pinion but one of the greatest top radio bastions in flame throwers w a b c and we just yes this was what eve 7 years i mean i dont even know im after whited to keep track but we have been side by side throughout every iteration of that you were there before that but i started off in talk radio right when Rush Limbaugh was coming along and this thing blew up so weve seen the piece but steve for a quick note to say one thing its not talk radio its not talk its time its information and information or truth no matter the platform will always be viable doesnt matter what it is megaphone you can hold it doesnt matter some of for you can all flags as the communication platform is obvious and the media may be different. Yeah you know talk radio is one of those great great great mediums of course that audience always skewed a little older when it comes to political talk and now that audience is much older because were much older and it i hate to say it and so theyre the audience is dropping off if you look at the ratings in new york city for instance of w. A. B. C. Radio where we were at wor where we both were as well. If you combine those ratings these days combined them you dont come close to what w. A. B. C. Had in the heyday that you were talking about when we were both fair when that we were of as you said flame throwing red talk radio and we were just at the top of the charts so its a its a i hate to say have a dying medium but i guess it is a title is it not pat platform maybe maybe 8 am i dont know that that remains to be seen that can still be done but steve remember. What is not taught forget radio what is not talk t. V. Talk radio tell me what is not the music format i dont know about you im sure your disk jockeys i dont know but they have murray days a murray the k. And cousin perusia whoever that but those individuals from stern to great by the way great urban formats and great city of all formats in terms of morning drive its talk its not music everything is taught turn on t. V. Tell me whats not talk his idea of talk radio taught its everywhere howard stern was never a d. J. Its talk while were doing this talk what news is the only thing that changes is how do you provide it and your people do it the right was it in the bathroom who are doing some of the best program they have by just off at. Yeah you know what i what i was saying about dying i think youre absolutely right about about the platform of top it is everywhere and thank goodness but i was talking about specifically what was known what we grew up in and then started out in radio and i think i think i think thats it thats a shame to it to a great extent but i just want to say the folks at alluded to this in my intro to you during a down times and helping guide me through my technical ignorance to which would be much to my betterment if i didnt have such ignorance and learned more you have and you know i and we were friends where we would hang out together every day and all that but you know have have have have come to my rescue in so many ways over the past few years that i tell everybody about it and i wanted at the world to know now that you are wonderful youve been wonderful to me and i appreciate it very very much well its always my pleasure but but this is listen the listen the technology is just amazing and once you figure it out thats fine but steve thats half the battle what do you do with that even if something were doing mutual admiration because we are doing but i we are me admire each other you know julie but what you can do on you have sort of like i can well you out of bed stick up mike in your face and you can do it that theres no app for that my friend doesnt exist we are we are we are a rare breed like no thank you my friend will speak to you soon thank you sir always a pleasure. All right folks well thats our show for today stay curious and stay hungry of course because our show rears sunday morning at 1030 eastern time and you can also watch the full shows right now on portable t. V. Our portable t. V. App downloaded right now from your app store im steve allsburg see you next time i meet the press. Join me every thursday on the alec simon show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business im showbusiness ill see that. The swarms of them so moving. To big us whove looked before. Much of those who heard its a preview. You should see him we will. We will were going to. Move. Move. Move show you this look beautiful i mean its going to look good. Move just like most of these girls a good few films are good good good. Good good issue also look why do you do some you know you can show your story to a should go. To start ups to take it to needed so they were a little mist theyd say look it is its. 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And it turns out it was completely alleviated with very drastic dietary measures and i went to a number of doctors to discuss what happened to me and i was basically laughed at like diet has nothing to do with our immune disorders so my suggestion to people who have Health Issues they cant figure out if theyre going to see a medical professional and theyve been going for 10 years and theyre still in the same place and they should probably take it upon themselves to Start Testing things out testing out diet testing out exercise and try and figure out things on their own. And. Hello and welcome to crossfire are all Things Considered im pewter a little bow with the coronavirus now officially declare dependent make the world faces the additional burden of an Oil Market Collapse this comes at a time when demand for crude was already low some are calling this the ultimate perfect storm how this all ends is anyones guess