A year and the pilgrims has to play you know you said you were going to kill 5000 people and that in fact if youre a 5000 people and progress no i told you this truce id kill those 5000 people the rest out of here so i thought it was very relevant in whats going on today to me is our fear of this current of virus demick that i dont know that it can actually kill us. First thank you for having me. Yes fear is a powerful weapon here maybe a Deadly Weapon and fear makes you go and makes you know in many ways when we thinking about if your. There are many layers to you that we are experiencing one thing the most obvious is would be futile and how we think. Think about the threat you think about. Safety searching for safety but thats the part that is more conative or the levels are a few things but there are also other layers. Another one is. All there all physiological responses when your heart is pounding your Blood Pressure is increased in order to pump more blood more oxygen more nutrients to your muscles. And enables you either right or running away and this physiological levels you know you think about increased Blood Pressure some people may die of heart attack and actually there are some studies some reports. In africa when. People were attacked by. Some of them were actually getting heart attack during this assault so possible they could die of heart attack not only because. They say when someone commits suicide jumping prescribe skyscraper he is not even going to know when he reaches the floor because hes going to have a heart attack or that right something thats one thing but another thing is that youre mentioning dying by suicide. That if you may push us to behave in a certain way making a runaway and fall down a request or if you might trigger aggression which is also a response a Survival Response and somebody else may die because the person is so frightened and they there because of this year to somebody else and we see. I want to talk a little more of though and the physiological level if you dont mind were going to go through all that in detail but 1st like stress i know is a very powerful tool that can destroy ones house right with a doctor say 50 percent of our Health Problems come from stress connection imagine how psychosomatic work. You convince yourself that youre sick and you just start feeling the symptoms and even though youre physically healthy so if i keep for instance my hands clean watch them all the time but if youre panicking. A lot with these would this make me susceptible to call it 1000 more how does it work i mean would my immune system literally be suppressed or go down if i panic and fear getting infected with covered 19 prolonged safe here. And may may lower or may affect your immune response because your means a prolonged future when prolonged stress means that your stress hormones are good the levels of your stress hormones are going to go up and. Prolong increase approach of ation of stress hormones and your but it definitely affects your immune response so if your we dont have fuel to live in fear we half year to look for safety to secure our safety and the safety of our camp and thats thats the thats the whole difficult it is the whole problem better than when theres a mismatch between responses and the environment the kind of we may be at risk of living in fear without really using this whole energy that if youre use us. So under stress from what i understand great. The brain center actually theres room for fear and anxiety is most active while the rational part of our brain actually becomes more sluggish right so does that mean that the during bad times our reason gives derange to our emotions. Yes yes absolutely well 1st of all. Usually i mean im im speaking. Again from this evolutionary perspective the threats were and of pretty predictable and thats the thats why the responses were Pretty Simple really. If you major responses one is to freeze so you just kind of dont move you you you dont want to draw attention of the predator you you run away. Light or you fight its Pretty Simple now the environment is more sophisticated its not enough its not theres no washing your hands odd why its in your brain you just need to how do i or you need to you need to have this this response or you learn what is really important because in a situation a few restaurants we cannot process as details so well everythings become simplified so what is really important is to rehearse. The procedures rehearse responses and this is what 1st responders do people people who are fine fighters or. Medical personnel or. Uniformed services they just print. The procedures the practice responses and repress them when they are not right so something responses maybe they are become almost automatic. Or were saying that yesterday in bad times actually. Emotions take over and we dont were not like able to think rationally would that explain why. People are rushing into Grocery Stores and just stuck it out so much trust and but wait and rice and toilet paper and you know that way too much its not pressed 3 months probably for 3 years but you still morning does that explain is there a. Is it im just wondering is there any way to change the basic workings of our stress brains well you know it is hard because as you said its irrational its emotional and if you know it if you are informed wont get some supplies for 2 or 3 weeks dont you have part of your of your mind was to think well what about what if its longer. So what if i were if i get supplies for additional 3 so this is kind of hard to say or to stop this type of thinking because you want to increase your safety increase your chances of survival now. What it really is for you to asians like this is when you have when you getting food into information and information is you know with whatever other us its transparent the communication has to be simple and im now talking about the kitchen by the olds or just by the press knowledge or who are in the position cordon it is Emergency Action so if you know yes nice to get supplies for 2 weeks then we will secure that there will be a mother and other delivery to local stores so i feel like in this fear factor. Good and bad role is played by the media because i mean we can imagine being without the information and you know Media Worldwide are now working their socks up to give the public all possible information about how it might be on the other hand i mean knowledge is power but i manage her hearing all the time about it is making me even more scared so like in op start of like deciding im going to watch news once a day because its not possible whats your take is having Media Coverage a curse or a blessing in this kind of situation. Well you know you youre a media person so you know this reality better than i do but i would just start with the question do media have their internal guidelines how to report in the case of a disaster or imagine. This is a question to your knowledge do media have these kind of godlike guidelines. Do you mean i dont know that anyone could have guideline on a virus reported that we dont really know much about i mean the only guy that would try to work not from office but from home and thats what were doing but Everything Else really just is guided by our own fears and questions that we are placed with right now like media its kind of like everyone else. But lets lets imagine that you know probably in many institutions people have a fire drills you know once you know why theres a fire drill so people know which way they should exit the building where were where they should wait outside of the building their procedures and i think that communication is also such a part of a powerful tool and part of dimension of real life that doesnt make sense to craft. Impressor just how we communicate 1st you need to know the communications should be simple and should be consistent if if you are searching for different sources of information then there could be contradictions and you know on one side there is there is there is i would say the great advantage that. That people have in searching from different sources of information but. When we. When were dealing with a disaster of that kind of that dimension. I would say that media should act responsibly so some information should be in a very fight before they are sure it would be with the public. If you talk about fake news right now because its fake news in general has become a huge problem in recent years but especially times of local programming. This is something that sort of becomes 10 times more inflated in terms of importance white should be done ever. Well you know i would say i wouldnt blame. I wouldnt blame media for everything theres something right. There because i blame the media for everything we just kind of attributing a superpower to the media but but there is a challenge for for each individual truly choose and their sources of information and these things are true should probably learn from the from our child how to look for information how to verify a marriage yes you could not take a short break right now i will come back well continue talking and how fear at our lives and immune system stay with us. The swarms of them so moving. And good news was before. Much of those who heard the food you must never see him we will. We will were going to. Move. Move. Move she didnt look beautiful the militants who looked good. Moved muslim also these girls with good youve gone for good good good. Dont go to school so look i do the same you belong to show the store to go. To start ups to. Get to meet until it was the middle of the mist theyd say look it is its. Just testing understand just moved there mashed old truck to stop the president and please control this project until. Those we have producers to go to school to snoop to come up to new it because that is the cousin with you for his supporters to your machine station shouldnt for you should cook door for one whos doing. In london Julian Assange standing trial on whether he will be extradited to the u. S. To face espionage charges the stakes could not be higher i saw ages libya even life is on the line freedom of speech is also on trial though you wouldnt know that the mainstream media. Your government and our government and all the other major governments of the world know whats going to happen and when its going to. But they havent told you and they havent told me they havent announced. Imagine something as big as the earth. Is going to cause tidal waves earthquakes volcanoes are going to wrapped and its going to chill. So very for a while right. My great grandfathers quote. Nobody would care about the law or prison so youd have wallace though should have. A turbo license between the and the. And were back with psychiatrist a neuroscientist yes exactly like talking about. Joining the global condemning. Can i ask you something i completely understand about parents on your ration you know sticking to the true sort of journalistic guidelines that should be working whether its endemic or not im talking about like the old world worldwide media no matter what country. What rating what brings ratings are bad news. You know whatever delete brings more ratings like if you look at the Media Coverage world wide i mean i have not seen why not report story feature on a person who has already gotten well gotten infected and then gotten well all i see people getting sick people dying and it sort of i feel almost like the regular media logic fits into this collective hysteria well. To some extent yes probably. Read again depends what the motivation is the motivation is to increase your audience so desperately. Sharing information that is scary. Will increase or all the ins white because. Under threat or a tension is biased to scare information we want to know about that more so well be even at the list searching for this information what else happened how many people died who well its going to say. What are other. Risk factors the credits bows you to to make a better outcome if you get infected by divine so we have this natural bias. But. You know this is kind of the question for other people for media people. Do we. Are we acting now to increase our ratings or increase our audience or we want to give. Our time. To experts thats will inform people. How to how to process information or what information is relevant how the process is a very important part you just mentioned because when youre under very heavy stress how do you tell a rumor from a real track. You might have difficulty you may have difficulty definitely if you can do it if you train yourself before to do it which means if you are really. Conscious. Need your consumer account conscious news consumers so if you if you learn before when you have a 2nd set of sources of information and you want to verify that so you you want to know what to do it is hard to learn it when youre under stress so i agree with you if you are under stress then its easy to be rational but its also easy to manipulate. Who are under the influence of intense emotions so as a psych hatcheries could jeopardize what he did better in this time of Global Pandemic or everyones under stress everyones fearful Media Coverage is extensive but mostly its scary i mean when you turn on t. V. Its real its there but it scary. When she you advise to isolate ourselves from the media maybe not watch t. V. And go on facebook and your tweets all the time you know which with news its like with food you know you need to have some news you need to have something from asian you know i think the total isolation wont be helpful because you will not learn about washing your hands or you will not learn about enough with the same just nonsense. The question is more like. How to choose the sources of your information and how much of this information you need i do i do i do think that for most people thats missing for many people it doesnt make sense to limit. This flow of information just focus more mostly on reliable sources of information and i would cite experts like. Health experts that. There are trained and that have knowledge and if if somebody is just. Getting a lot of news exposure but there is no. Expert source then i would probably say that this person may be at risk of not. Making best choices so talking from a psychiatric quite a few one more time we humans are such social animals how does being isolated for one another person actually long time im defined period actually inspect our psyche. Well i would say any change any change may cause the stress that some people who. Refuse to be isolated they may not be so much a 30 by by the situation as theres not theres no significant change in the routine however for most people who are some kind of connect then it might be. Yes also stress and thats neatly. It is the advice to maintain connections i observe that many people now when they are in isolation they spend their homes reach out to their family members or to their friends that they had me in touch with so there are also some positive aspects and that people know that you need to keep a distance but you need to stay connected. I think many people naturally do it without any guidance without any in advice because you find safety in your connection so so this is not. Probably most people who cope without will find a way to stay connected and acknowledge you could be helpful here. For some people that could be more stressful so then i would recommend doing a think about you know maybe this is. A good idea to schedule some phone calls or some time online special for children who dont go to the schools you know they could be some play time over skype or zoom or you know or any other application to have things casual people who might have some. Book clubs you know and share experiences that so thats i do i do believe in our adaptive skills and kind of survival skills that people fire the way to connect i mean not that i completely agree about always being able to adapt no matter the circumstances and youre right that with found new ways to. Speak to people that we havent spoken in ages and thats a good think as most about being isolated and having a little free time on your hands but this thing will be all were. You know one day or another some say 2 months some say 6 months its going to be over right were going to come out of it and then how are we going to be with each other thats the big question is do you feel like were going to be slightly more introverted with every day oh by sledding distance even those who are extra rights was an extrovert i like to go out im very social but ive adapted. You know in this isolation and im not sure how im going to be ones i can go out and be social like i used to be do you think were going to be more extroverted after the thing is over or will we be more caring less selfish than we are today what what are your prognosis thats what i want to know as well it depends theres no i mean i think probably you outlined possible scenarios yes you may this is how experience is change there is something. Something stressful. It can support our growth like when you sing to your your next revert it will you be an introvert you probably will change your personality but now if if this time there did you staying in confinement in isolation you can kind of use. True explore yourself better then you will know you may share other aspects of yourself with with with other people and so that could be that can be a positive thing. I do think that there will be many people will be affected because. Seriously because this endemic really does not affect each of us in the same way i know more kind of concerned or worried. About. Frustrates ponders the Frontline Health care workers because they are. There working under extreme stress you know their chances of exposure. To the violence is higher but at the same time they are under stress when they come home because they dont want to to pass the virus to their family so something that should be kind of mean comfort for you and safety is not i know i have any call hes who who works in the e. R. And the hospitals that move out from the homes so too to protect their families and i think there is enough of a double so its again probably what youre saying its exactly whats going to happen for some people it will its meaning growth but for some other people it may mean. Like a long term. I would say burden or or or maybe some interests emotional interests. 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