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Always been anti democrat and republican and in my neighborhood up there all of a sudden i started seeing nice barkley signs for congress or senate. Barkley barkley. Whos this barkley this Independence Party at the time. And so on. I realized that the majority of the. Great many of them were disgruntled democrats and republicans who feel the systems failing and they want something new. I felt that way also in. The long story shorter. Walk in it so were walking. Crazy but theyre going crazy for me. Good deed leaning over to me and whisper in there didnt have to whisper it was pretty loud he said see the wrong guys running that was the. Thats the wife of my you know it was my hometown was a little embarrassing. But the north completely really did. And i just wonder this would translate into popular and thats where the idea how my hand in thats worth of thought started we had a great big Budget Surplus because the economy in the ninetys was super strong and because of the taxation rate in minnesota they took in billions of dollars more than they needed and they spent it and i was doing talk radio and i was just outraged over that how dare them thats the peoples money its not fair just because they have an excess doesnt mean their kids in the candy store and so when they spent the money i got pretty vocal overt and i made a statement on the radio one day i said maybe i ought to run for governor you could sense the feeling out there that people were looking for Something Else and werent getting it the centers never represented its always the left on the right on the far wings and there and then the center is made to pick. Quote the lesser of the 2 evils i guess when you get a candidate that occupies the center the left and right them can make inroads and i knew. That that we needed to ya. Voters who did normally vote so i figured theres about 24 to 25 percent that are already voted for an independent with ralph as ok then what we have to do and youre right we had to expand the electorate so we can get to 25 but how do we get to 35 to 37 and i figured well the young voter doesnt vote for it out from if we can motivate that walk of voters to take a chance and show up we had a shot we did the 1st part of the campaign and that replay didnt stir well what you do is you do exactly what you go to bed at which is why did you go to the people silly unit event like these im on would you describe it to slugger should he already have will fly but i mean you think of a Governor Campaign you can oh you can understand or picture what the other side of the dialler not hearing their perilous at the time you know good thing which is where the campaign was let her read caroline a little dollar a day before and you know we were never as i and dead 3 to line the Campaign Manager was a poll to have you know theres a bolt out if you are at them and i know hes running told he cant make this stuff up knowing it it was a complete. It was as grass d root as you could possibly as early as hes 34 people down doing things that was yeah i remember dean taking me to a debate i think was the twentys public telephone right and we were sitting in a cafeteria or something watching this debate and that was when. I just said you have to work for jesse because he was so different from middle in those debates you. Simply means that you were actually part of the strategy or you were there doing the numbers yeah we we really did we had. Really good voter targeting gross as well and the other thing people forget about this campaign it was really the 1st effective use of the internet yes in a political campaign. We didnt have a feeling as the feelers ations people emailing other people but there are some pretty big indicators people forget the context of the entire race we were at the state fair the democrats for some reason that still eludes me invited everybody to their debate so jesse would show up other 3rd Party Candidates show up and every time id watch these debates go on. Everybody would be nodding when jesse spoke so its not hard to figure out if youre at a democratic primary event and theres 5 candidates in the democratic primary and this guy is the 2nd choice of almost everybody there you start to go through this is a very different dynamic than weve ever seen before if hes the 2nd choice of all the democrats thats pretty good thats an awfully good starting place when i initially ram there were multiple opponents because i was in the debates very early on before the primaries even came around but when it got down after the primaries it got down to the big 2 or if you include me 3. Hubert h. Skip humphrey the democrat Hubert Humphreys son the former Vice President s son and he was the current attorney general. Maire norm coleman the mayor of st paul who they always saw i found it very interesting. That humphrey was always referred to by his political title of attorney general Humphrey Coleman was always referred to as mayor norm coleman and even though coleman had no more mayor them i did i was always former. Jesse ventura so why was the only candidate that had his private sector job put in front of his name where the public and i have been a mayor so shouldnt i shouldnt be former mayor Jesse Ventura because were talking politics here but thats the body or so that i face but in hindsight that was probably good but if they did name the other 2 his private sector jobs i dont want to landslide because then it would have been former warrior skip pomfrey and former lawyer norm coleman or some of the substance of those debates was really surprising to people and other things that happened in the debates had never happened i mean they would ask. A question and skipped as the family disease of luxury is so he starts talking immediately and you can see him trying to formulate an actual answer as hes talking so uses up his entire 2 minutes they give the same question to norm coleman he starts talking right away hes trying to make his points he gets cut off because hes going to go over they ask jesse a question he says yes. And they say nobody knew what to do they say would you like to elaborate on it and and he says us me a question i gave you an answer. Joe nobody knew it to be nobody and i dont say you know history of politics or ever not use their entire 2 minutes to Say Something i want to piggyback or that now because i dont need mean and said yes and. Ill never forget the moderator did have a sense of humor because i looked around when there was a struggle i said well i answered the question good night and the moderator of the new way yes i mean if he did so at that double song getting into the crowd good and all that required was a yes or no right in another debate it. Its a friday night and the 2 other candidates are all dressed up. Jesse shows up piecing is football coaching outfit you know anything like a sweatshirt in and innocence yeah i was almost lax yeah right there and then just banks people relate to somebody like that you know it wasnt all show and then finally there was the 3rd debate where you told that amazing story about a gay wrestler whose companion couldnt get in to see a man whos dying of aids i mean i heard it sprung up all over the state when you said that there was one of the most affecting things ive ever seen wallet how can you have a sign telling you who you love and who you dont get to sit by your bedside its dying for your remote in an emergency and because you gain youre not allowed in there whos your insanity you know and so and i think that. The fact that i didnt you should know children. You know people knew that that the answers they were getting were true would from the heart the truth was what if you were looking in. Jesse ventura and in the campaign from the outside as i was thats what started to resonate with me it was it was the truth and you would also often use examples of truth telling no degree i gave you 2 things of the voice for me its i said number one is tell the truth just dont want to think never too soon if you dont know the answer minute yeah its fine itll make you look a real person you dont have it all there and just personal your performance and your big you know we want from what beginning at september terrier shares them going to the shop to the mid twentys and we hadnt spent one penny on africa izing and that mop i think we did a couple radio at that was set. And thats more we got into position actually when i looked it up just a day or 2 ago on and says he was at 15 percent october 5th. And finished with 37 percent sure to a literally a 20 point jump in 3 weeks too and thats just a comical is in the. Same wrong but i. Just dont. Believe you have to say proud disdain comes to cancer. And it gains from it equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. Well its a let me. Ask i would then well. Pick i. Think the record not that im getting. To show more than. You love to you know my. Son to make it a c. Because dont listen. To what they were all at the kook on the standards in the uk now has your head chopped on this mission. To kill. Them with a difficult take. On you and those to mourn for the most along with a sinister learning one thing for not. So when you hire them when he tried to use and did their. Job. Never. To meet one of them with your house on them crossing. Early on in the campaign you know we did that we we did look at you know some of the results of policy were progression amongst the groups. Naturally my to start to roll the level of revenue stream we hope i am sure that the chances of me becoming you know i needed to be softened by felt i felt strongly that im im sure told them im sold the ranch that that put a fair and a lot of people i actually was polishing my Kitchen Cabinets that i get this call they said. My name is and i am on the committee for justice and tour as a candidate for governor and i said. And they said were wondering we would like to ask you to be his running mate i said no im a teacher im not a politician i knew that he wanted somebody who had a background in education because of his lot of experience with education to do that in the schools and such i thought well you nor i do not have i think i had about 30 years under my belt at the ready of being a teacher and i knew the schools from the childrens point the parents point from the administrators and there were a lot of things that i thought need fixing so as i met with my family they said well youre near retirement you are always talking about how to improve education and maybe this is your opportunity so i thought about that so the next day i got a call from jesse asking me if i would be interested in being his. Running mate as lieutenant and i said yes i will bill so i was from that point i was so excited because i could talk about education you are crucial to the success of this ticket i mean theres no way i dont think the jesse lives without you on the ticket because. You gave it a certain sense of gravity to us you know and education is so important to voters and to this day i dont know if people would remember your name but they know that Jesse Ventura ran with it teach or seem is confident. And we were discussing and he said we should do a victory term road to victory to your house the 1st time we came off my ass. You know what 2nd until our and i go all over the state of minnesota in 48 hours or 3 days i had your us within our vienna meter solar. And now were going to shop there as low as a surrogate in a film as a was there and he says well we should use the internet and do some live shots on the front fan of build some momentum saw i know i said then i says ok stop doing Everything Else and lets break this im happy that was another thing that nobody had ever done before i mean people have done bus tours and stuff like that before but the whole rationale behind it was this is the next navy Seal Campaign is committed will be campaigning when theyre sleeping 10 miles of people are going on the road john and pam hears right through the cars behind those with with balloons with all this follow us and then as theyd leave others would replace them so were going gaming people everywhere who go to rubble status wasnt exactly a well oiled machine so we would be running sometimes 23 hours behind and we were going all night so youd show up 3 hours late at 2 oclock in the morning to someplace homework yet and there was still a tremendous number of people that are a nuisance sunday night these people got to work monday morning these are farmers friends or people but they waited there for 2 hours for us to arrive and we come out and it was unbelievable i mean people hanging at midnight in willmar minnesota paying off the building and of course the other 2 immediately imitate it so this skipped town for goes out and gets a bus and he cant get anybody on the bus or to show up so they end up paying people to be on his bus for a crowd yes the old and norm coleman. Has a bus that looks like something out of the music man i mean the whole thing they must spend way more money than we spent on the entire campaign on this bus because the bus would roll and theyd roll out the stuff that be like a stage and all the sound stuff an army get up to a song and dance everything gets rolled up back in a bus off to the next stop weve done a lot of races and i have never seen people work as hard on a campaign as your people did and they were almost all volunteers all staff and everybody was almost dead at the end of that bus trip but they saw it through and it was an amazing success in fact i eyeball bread. We hired b. L. Yes because shes an agent that she job but everybody also on my campaign the only person that got paid was doug fried lime and thats because he had to leave his job full time and take over you know the campaign for the party so we paid doug the equivalent of what he made so a poll today this is truly a Peoples Campaign i dont think weve seen anything like it before or since the democrats other parties talk about their get out the vote program all are volunteers all this organization they have this was a situation where the people in minnesota organize themselves we were driving there to canterbury that night early evening there was a strange. Circle around the mood in the sky that night the truly was because i remember my son and my wife and i all looked at me and my son was in the back seat and he goes dad something something strange is going to happen that you said to me on the way. In and so we went out there with that expectation but when i truly realized. It i always believed i could win but believing in actuality are 2 Different Things but what got me. That night was when word came in that the lines to register were longer than the lines to vote. That to me was the key you know we have same day registration in minnesota and i thought thats the key these people are not coming up to vote for the status quo theyre not waiting in line to vote for skip or more money theyre waiting in line because its their 1st time and ill just state this i cant tell you all 6 of them. How many young people have come up to me there and it just makes me feel so good to tell me always you know you were the 1st person i ever folded for and that to me is the reward. More than anything of ever being the governor was the fact that we had that type of impact on the people they told us were untouchable w. C. C. You know or we have that morning in their little political report of us crosses yeah the university of minnesota im a girl lives around the block for young people registering to vote on a watch and thats the 1st time i said may god we may have done that because that was the missing piece that i didnt know the whole time or are they going to show off ive never seen before or since the initial returns came in with the you had 37 percent can you never move ive never seen anything like this although i was yes all night it was 37 percent and coleman was trailing the made a little bit of a movie at one point and i thought well thats the end of it now call him and wins but it never happened he will never get that it was interesting because when the 1st very returns came in the very 1st it was right in new york Humphrey Coleman many of the 2nd returns came in Humphrey Ventura Coleman i moved up to 2nd and then i think it was what 5 percent to 7 percent was when i took the lead. But they came in with the. Last 2nd the 1st real amazing thing is that it was skip. In the debates thinking i was going to take republican conservative votes because of fiscal conservative it was the opposite. 46 percent. He was all the time i was. Always within the margin of. Never went up never went down ill never forget the fact that we were in the bath. Once to the crowd and they were. In and i said. Im not there just to go out there. Ill never forget was right here to my right side. On the t. V. Set the for. Jesse venturas being declared the winner i dont remember which is from c. B. S. Or a. B. C. I dont know who made the 1st call but then all of a sudden the other 2 came right along and. There was only 60 percent of the vote. And they were declaring me the winner. Everyone wanted me to. There was only 60 percent of the vote. I said you want me to walk out there and declare myself the i should. Be the biggest laughingstock and. I said im not there yet and ill never forget bill sitting there call me quiet and. He looks at me. He said trust me. I said bill 40 percent of the phone left how can you say they havent been wrong in 15 years because youve got to go all the way to. Do your true. 50 years. In 50 years. And i remember all of those huddling in. There to try to figure out what to do next and terry whos the unsung hero of this campaign. Was crying ashley because she did not want to be 1st lady despite the fact that she turned into like the best 1st lady in history it was just chaos at that point and i remember the other memory was when i finally did walk out all those volunteer cops were nowhere in sight all of a sudden there was like 12 smoke. Around me and. Everyone out of the way. It was like almost you got taken over you know you got taken over no longer. It was a case in this election were where. We. Were. Just as i said if you if you saw behind the scenes when i made the statement the night we won we shocked the world if you would have been behind the scenes you would have truly understood what that what that statement said before we shot the world because in all you know we we had great people. We had no money. To speak of the dems and republicans. You know. That. When cash did. Title i always remembered quote we shock. And thats how i felt that night i felt. I shocked. Nobody gave us a chance but we did it. Well done. Captured the moment. 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Will be of interest to god knows where to snip them what on your go there as the girls are getting really supportive to your question as they should or shouldnt be you should cut off the one was the old be the one. Welcome to u. K. Life here in london were currently awaiting the governments daily Coronavirus Press briefing and well be crossing live to where michael gove the chance of the duchy of lancaster is due to speak thatll be in a few moments from now in the meantime lets catch up on todays. Britains coronavirus death toll soars to its highest daily death rate yet and could still be underestimating the scale of the crisis thats as the government fails to hit its only target for testing. The chief doctor of russias main hospital treating coded 900 patients as tested positive for the boss just a week after meeting with Vladimir Putin will be getting reaction from moscow. A Doomsday Clock is created showing held close each country is to seek coronavirus and it seems we here in this country havent even got started ill be joined by the man behind the project a little later this hour. And also the european parliaments Largest Group of any peace schools on britain to for an extension to the brics it transition period while both sides deal with the forest pandemic ill be talking to a brics an expert live a little later. The coronavirus death rate in the u. K. Continues to soar to almost 400. 00 in a single day and the toll could be even higher after it was revealed the governments own figures dont include those fatalities occurring outside hospitals as number 10 is accused of failing to meet its own targets to ramp up testing. And he joins me now here in the studio with the latest so its a confusion over the official death of his. Yes absolutely and in fact those figures the official ones coming out themselves having been revised a few times today we do know that the death toll has risen by almost 400 over the most recent 24 hour period to just under 801799 deaths that figure was earlier today reported as being over 800 has not been revised down but we know that there are differences in how different organizations or groups report their numbers and that theres been a discrepancy the oh and s. The office for National Statistics theyve began weekly briefings with the figures of deaths and for the 7 day period leading up to march the 20th in the including march the 20th e. O. N. s said that there were 210. 00 deaths in england and wales and only 170. 00 according to the n. H. S. Those figures now that discrepancy could be down to the methodology involved the ins include deaths which have taken place in hospitals but also outside of hospital so for example people whove lost their lives after testing positive for cope with 19 in time homes for example or even possibly within their own homes so this these figures of almost 800. 00 which are n. H. S. Numbers could actually be much higher and could be anywhere close to 2000 or even above that a low of course were still waiting for the ins to release their latest figures following bows and he says the governments testing plans are going to rise so it seems so the governments response in how theyve dealt with covert wanted in general has come in for criticism but also their approach to testing but in order to paps combat some of that criticism weve seen Boris Johnson the Prime Minister taking to social media to show that he is holding his 1st Cabinet Meeting using Video Conferencing apps or websites and. Taking to twitter to remind the public to stay at home and to protect the n. H. S. And save lives that has become the official motto it would seem of the government so the Prime Minister joined there by all of his colleagues as he seeks to show leadership however the criticism is aimed at the numbers of tests which have or havent been conducted the government said they wanted to test around 10000 people a day in the u. K. Michael gove it claimed that that figure had been reached but according to the 24 hour period leading up to 9 am on sunday morning those figures are some way short less than half 4900 people were only tested in that period thats a long way off some of the u. K. s european neighbors germany for example has been testing around 70000 people a day to just goes to show the scale of how far the u. K. Needs to go perhaps a step in the right direction is the u. K. Setting up Testing Centers for example at ikea in North West London which has now been turned into a Testing Center for n. H. S. Staff and its workers who can go and get themselves checked to see whether they have copd 19 we had also seen last week the government announcing the purchase of 3 and a half 1000000 testing kits which are due to go to both and just work as and to hit the shelves for members of the public to be able to buy however its now emerged according to reports that some of those tests have been contaminated with coded 1000. 00 themselves and so the running out of that is going to be delayed sometime further thank you very much indeed for that update. The government failed to fully implement advice given on handling pandemics from a 21000 review of the u. K. s biological security thats according to a former top scientific advisor the Environment Department professor in boyd to help with the paper said the main issue was a lack of resources he said the government said. Towards pandemics storms and mass blackouts was to treat them individually and other critics said that many m. P. s have been too concerned with breaks in elections to focus on the nations biological security or professor in point spoke to me and yeah and told me that government simply have to prepare for these scenarios and the threat of ours could be with us for many years to come. All governments are faced with lots of different and jason some of those challenges are very large but are very very unlikely to happen. The problem is that the more of those challenges you have the more likely one of them is to have it is likely to happen to know quite which which one it is so that the dilemma for government is what do you plan for and it is a it is an extremely difficult one were hearing you know a lot of suggestions that got that government should be should be trying more advance for just particular pandemic but it would require people to change their behaviors at a time when they wont are not really fully sort of believing that this was going to actually happen and i separate difficult thing to do politically what can you offer us and any glimmer of hope in about how this is going to pan out in the future. Well i you know i think that this is going to go on for quite a long time i think over 1000 is going to be with us for a long time its possible we will never get rid of it completely. But on the other hand we managed to 2 sort of wring it out of the status. Well were interrupting that interview because we can now go to michael go for the governments Daily Press Briefing Daily Briefing in the fight against covert 19 im joined today by dr jenny harris the deputy chief medical officer and professor stephen paris the medical director of any chess england. Id like 1st to update you on the facts about the spread of coverage 19 and the steps that we are then taking in the battle against this virus 143180 6 people have now been tested for the virus of those 25150 have tested positive and sadly yesterday we recorded the highest single increase in the number of deaths as a result of 819381 people died meaning that of those hospitalized in the u. K. The number who have passed away now totals 1789 every death is the loss of a loved one and our thoughts and prayers are with those who are grieving. Overall 10767 people in england have been admitted to hospital with covered 1000 symptoms the largest number of those is in london with 3915 people involved little care while in the middle and the number of those hospitalized is now 1918 and accelerating upwards. These numbers reinforce the vital importance of following the governments social distancing guidelines the more we restrict contact the more we slow the spread of the infection the more that we can help the n. H. S. Build the capacity needed to care for those most in need and that capacity is increasing more n. H. S. Staff are returning to the front line and more testing is taking place to help those self isolating come back and to protect those working so hard in our hospitals and in social care but with the rate of testing is increasing we must go further faster. A critical constraint on the ability to rapidly increase Testing Capacity is the availability of the chemical reagents which are necessary in the testing the Prime Minister and the Health Secretary are working with Companies Worldwide to ensure that we get the material we need to increase tests of all kinds and as well as increasing number of stars on frontline and the tests which protect them we must also increase the capacity to provide oxygen to those worst affected by the disease we have just over 8000 ventilators deployed in n. H. Us hospitals now this number has increased since the epidemic began thanks to the hard work of any chess professionals but we need more thats why we are buying more ventilators from abroad including from the u. Nations and its also why were developing new sources of supply at home before the epidemic struck we had very little domestic manufacture of ventilators but now thanks to the dedication of existing medical supply companies and the ingenuity of our Manufacturing Base we have existing models being produced in significantly greater numbers and new models coming on stream orders have been placed with Consortium Led by ford air bus formula one racing teams including mclaren jian aerospace and rolls royce and dysons and i can answer that this weekend the 1st of fans of new ventilator devices will roll off the production line and be delivered to the n. H. S. Next week from there they will be rapidly distributed to the frontline michael go there giving the governments Daily Press Briefing highlighting the largest rise in deaths in this country in the u. K. Yet almost 400 more in the last 24 hours or so discuss the availability of tests and ventilators and said that the government was working to increase numbers of both. This is a u. K. Life here in london the still to come of this hour. Ahead all russias main hospital treating code 19 patients tested positive for the boss just a week after meeting with Vladimir Putin to get reaction from moscow. All the alternative all. Because i say the stage shows the. Real choices binary choice and only choices if you say. Binary is not a chance for the states to school to provide a new picture of the called ted to start negotiations with. Israel theyre not invited to negotiate. Micrograph slights against you know why. For example theres their sites against women or nonwhites so its always the idea is that statements that directed toward a Privileged Group are interpreted differently than a statement directed toward an oppressed group and so thats kind of the whole framework and its a political framework thats used the result is of course focusing at least on certain kinds of minor slights and say well rather than a north shore then we need to call attention to them but its not all slight so its very political and its contents. The chief doctor rushes main hospital treating coded 19 patients has tested positive for the virus thats just one week off to shaking hands with me a prudent aunties egypt trying to has more. Well of this is of course the biggest good news that sco men out of russia coming out of moscow this evening we did learn from mr present caus Facebook Page that his corona virus test was positive let me just read to you what he said m. That post dear friends im really touched by your concerns yes ive tested positive for c. O. V. But i feel quite well im self isolated at my office where i have everything needed for remote work control and video consultations so we do know that the head of russias hospital of moscows hospital thats treating all the coronavirus cases at this point is still going to continue his work despite the despite being diagnosed with cold it 19 now like he said bill perhaps the most important part of this was that exactly one week ago dennis pretend co was in touch with Vladimir Putin extensively because the russian president did visit the hospital and while they were inside the unit where the patients are treated of course they have all the uniform for their protection but then now there was a Conference Call with the other parts of the country there were in one room they have an extensive discussion on what has been done and what is planned to be done and this was when the russian president and dr present were directly in touch like he said they did shake hands they werent Wearing Masks at that point so this is why of course this whole situation sparked concerns as to whether the russian president could have caught some of this but for now all. All this was denied by mr putin spokesperson tao dmitri peschardt hes saying that there is being regularly tested for brought a virus so far the result was negative. A Doomsday Clock has been created to help explain where each country is in its fight against the virus created the left for school of business and economics the graph suggests that the length of a nations help break is about 4 months the u. K. U. S. And most of europe currently lie between noon and 3 pm the point when infection is highest iran is now between 3. 00 and 6 pm experiencing higher recovery rates and fewer deaths while those between 6 pm and midnight are on the tail end of the outbreaks with china currently at 57. 86 minutes now joined by the man behind the clock dr Jonathan Seaton jonathan thank you for joining us oh thanks for having me a Doomsday Clock might sound scary to many of us but tell us a bit more in detail how it actually works well yes it does sound here effect but the main reason for doing most is to help people ive been listening to your program and there is so much data you know we have about 800000 cases throughout the world and as you said in your program 391 deaths today in the u. K. And i wanted to use a graphic that helps people understand how far they are along on the journey the thing is as you said this is a very long journey and were about 4 minutes into it. Ive been measuring the journey by looking at the entries into the journey the cases versus the exits the fatalities and the recoveries so what we find is as you said between. Noon and 3 pm we tend to have the a lot of turbulence thats when actually the hands of the clock can go forwards and backwards because you can get sudden growth spurt in cases. And then you get the increased recovery fewer deaths from 3 pm to 6 pm asked so its not all doom is it because the graph does show that chinas outbreak is almost over and you know theyre almost fish sorry yes kerry also but we cant guarantee that other countries will stop the virus in the same timeframe. Thats right yet china is about 2 minutes to midnight or noon and other countries like italy are you know sort of quarter past 20 past almost if we look at the china case that peking cases happened about 3 and a half minutes past noon the peak of deaths was about 8 minutes past and the peak of recoveries was about half past it in the case of italy. The the peaking cases seems to be about 12 minutes past deaths 14 minutes past and the high recoveries are kicking in now from about 11 minutes past. The u. K. Is about 5 minutes past 2 day so we still are going to you know were not yet into peak death so i think if people thought yesterday that we were coming down but its going to get worse yes as we have to accept that but that again slight glimmer of hope because you are referring to recovery rates we dont hear a lot about recovery rates at the moment and now according to this scot iraq as being the 1st to experience a major outbreak and then seems to be getting more recovery rates and having the virus now yeah recoveries dont get much coverage and the problem in the u. K. Is that the not very well documented Johnson Johns Hopkins University are actually putting in estimates because we dont seem to have any concrete figures ourselves which links in to what you were saying before about the problem of getting good data out of the u. K. And just a final thought here you talk about on average 4 months so what do you think and i know we cant hold you to this but what are we looking at now in this country in terms of a much greater recovery rate and far less deaths when we can actually feel that we have turned the corner on this year i think the government wants to kind of do a bounce they want us to flatten the curve so we we will be 4 or 5 months they even said about 6 months and then they think well get another wave kicking in in the autumn so in a way again linking to what youve said before this isnt over well keep getting this coming back it doesnt allow for this extra weight perhaps youre predicting now yeah it sort of is a little bit like the b. B. C. Swing on most of the hands can swing back again unfortunately but i think what were measuring here is the bulk of the the virus demick when we get later epidemics they wont be as bad because of what the government called the herd immunity not so many people will get course because others are in the way dr Jonathan Seaton really interesting to talk to on this thank you very much indeed for joining us live here on r. T. K. Thanks for having me. European parliaments Largest Grouping of any pieces as the British Government to seek an extension to the brics a transition period due to the pandemic the European Peoples Party which represents more than a quarter of any piece of perspective the exit is the only sensible thing to do as the block deals with the crisis of Prime Minister Boris Johnson has maintained that the date will remain the 31st of december. Its been done. Be it be it. Being regulated discussed i can tell you. The moment. Were getting on with. The. Legislative legislation in place that i have no intention of changing it comes as the 1st meeting of the u. K. E. U. Joint committee set up to implement the would draw agreement took place by Video Conference britain is represented by michael go Vice President of the european commission. A shift curvatures on behalf of the e. U. But a study by the groups best for britain and hope not hate reveals that the public mostly disagrees with the government pushing ahead to wrap up towards by the end of the year of a 2 thirds of the general population would like to see the u. K. Are asked for an extension in light of the pandemic 44 percent of conservatives back an extension despite their partys hard line get breaks it down election stance 84 percent of labor voters support an extension 83 percent of lib dems now the data also shows a large age gap with 78 percent of 18 to 24 year olds desiring an extension thats compared to 52 percent of those aged 65. 00 and over. Well for more on this im not joined by politics expert alice to show us. How that is taken to talk here though this is an unexpected situation surely Boris Johnson has to extend you would expect the e. U. That soon very clever and they wanted a 7 extension for since january basically because they argued that we could never get all the negotiations that in 11 months to begin with and with the virus epidemics threatening the well Everything Else is being put on hold now what theyve done is theyve said that theyve offered us the chance of an extension all we have to do is to confirm so we wont be asking we were going to happen has him please give us an extension its been offered to us and its been sold that makes the British Naval Boris Johnson not to be seen to be great in his word you would think that with everything thats going on the fact that hes in isolation hes experiencing the difficulties of working from home and being isolated from all those around him that he would appreciate its almost impossible to get these negotiations and also of course the public it looks according to these polls that they want him to ask for one so do you think youll take that into account i think barr stance is track record is in the seat ideologically driven he gets what he wants and if it is what he wants hes not even going to ask for it so he said he renegotiate he did and he got some changes to withdraw agreement and that went through parliament and in that legislation he said very clearly no extensions and he is going to stick to that if he sticks to that that we are facing a scenario with no trade deal at all the economy is already being damaged by by this virus not a sensible way to go i would i agree it is not a sensible way to go but it has always been his case that he wanted a note you breaks it if you know the discussions that you and i have had of this over the time about process being Prime Minister anything before then we could see very clearly theres he has got a very clear i dont want to leave and it doesnt matter how and the extent of it is. No deal greggs it is fine by him do you not think that is so we can find a compromise between both parties and in the light of the huge economic damage done we could get a very quick and very generous trade deal done between the 2 the problem and that is the e. U. Our comprehensive trade you know they dont want to be written bits and pieces whereas the u. K. Position is we want to be in bits and pieces so from our perspective the Boris Johnson perspective is that we do a bit of it then hey were going to deal done the e. U. And far more comprehensive and they are very reluctant to do piecemeal in case it causes contradiction has got to their legislation that affect the single markets now with this pandemic hambrecht said of course how do you see relations between the e. U. And the u. K. Well theres been a lot of the when that one in the u. K. Was asked to join in in developing this strategy if you like and all the equipment to be produced so they did produce the ventilators and so forth and the u. K. Said no and a whole host of us we misunderstood it there was ringback the email it was lost it was in some decent trade we still ive seen the e. U. As if we know best and we have different trebly else and i think the e. U. In some respects what they dont want to wash their hands of us that somebody appears to be going but it appears to be much britain pushing that line or use the British Government pushing that line regardless of what the public want or what the e. U. Would like as jones great to talk tonight thank you time thank you. But it seems that coronavirus related missa continue to spread alongside the disease arctic as modern entries put some more viral theories under the microscope. Are you suffering from information overload lets to bug some myths and get the lowdown we had to separate facts from the fiction. The virus was made in a lab. One internet rumor states that corona virus was created in a laboratory in china the reality is that many studies show its a natural product of evolution most horribly from a wet or life meat markets in china some scientists believe it jumped from populations to humans while others think that it might have passed to us from bats but its certainly not from some science experiment gone wrong. Pets can spread coronavirus the british weaponry Association Says that there is no evidence that pets can spread the virus or come become sick from it its driven from human to human transmission that said the virus can live on surfaces for some time including animal fur so the answer is to follow good hygiene practices and wash your hands. Children can catch it the short answer is that all age groups can become infected but yes most cases so far have been in adults and older people the World Health Organization says that children are not immune and are just as likely to become infected but the symptoms tend to be less severe. The virus can stay dormant for 27 days now theres lots of different online information and opinion about this one the World Health Organization says that the incubation period thats the time between catching the virus and beginning to show symptoms is believed to be between want to 14 days most commonly around 5 days however a case with an incubation period of 27. 00 days was reported by a province local government in china experts suggest that a very long incubation period could reflect a double exposure but on average its 5. 00 days its generally considered to be the strain around for up to 14 days it can be longer so all of these things that. Theres a real range. Coronavirus the same as saws the virus that causes copd 19 on the one that caused the outbreak of severe. Respiratory syndrome all saws in 2003 are related to each other genetically but the disease is all quite different saws was much more deadly but less contagious think of it 19 meaning it was easier to isolate patients stop the spread and bring it under control thats the lowdown for today be safe because i wash your hands. And thats a phenomenon using hoffa