A Global Pandemic bust why is it always communist cuba that comes to the rescue when theres a medical emergency even when the countries in distress like britain and italy are allied to the usa responsible for decades of terrorism and sanctions against the caribbean and well as a ball coming up in todays going underground fest thats go straight to book a moment its just because god to dr Sylvia Binyamin the the Health Director of the San Francisco clinic who is on the front line of the fight back against corona virus sylvia thanks so much for coming on spain seems to be turning into with the by next week who knows new york and london maybe like a book or mo would you advise all of us 1st of all to do to minimize the impact of coronavirus they see on us that it would seem bad m. R. O. It out there whats the end of favorite already in the in my office because the media kate winslet used the ashley at the end because for all the people entering dales well weve decided that they. And i are. Protective equipment to tour with that and sadly that training or that you was of the equipment to trust and actually did the right it was right it all that you dont go insane the community in this situation is a pita difficult because many general practitioner got speak and so there are people that x. Whole month and they need. To seek for care and that device for doctors so what we had doing in my office because sometimes we had again i think a telephone savvis of a doctor and sweating day for a long time for all other people that that it taught me so its sort of nice that im these anchor missions ok well we have a phone Service Although its been quite controversial trying to get through to it were also putting thousands of beds 4000 beds in a Conference Center in there and east london here but what advice would you give given that you just talked about protective equipment should doctors and nurses and cleaners should they wear dustbin bags what should they do here because we have a shortage of Protection Equipment in this country for a front line National Health service yet they did think of a shark they had to ask if protective equipment i use they use any a show what. You need to do it out in our lives that use of them so use them exactly as the it is that i commanded and we really with were getting reports the doctors and nurses are reusing the protective equipment because there just isnt enough here in britain we are or are very much what a day about to the masks we chat in part down to back to these vitals its the same says natale s. Trading through the hair back there also and maybe mainly tragus what faces and the contact so if there is an impact and thought to wash hands and yet have a can become infected of divide us. And that door i gin in the environment you should look at counties where they were to stop the spread of divide it was they give it to rita a lot of environmental measures to keep oil day places clean and and try to avoid the on that do you think its a problem for britain that you for instance tested a patient i understand in february and of course you subsequently tested positive for govt 19 do you think its a problem that we still havent got testing kits here in britain and similarly in the United States that they have not been testing at a big level for corona virus so i you test if they 1st identified the caves in my office the thought on the 26th of february. Where i was protected and we did a quick meant and you did have to do that desk that i and my fat for the benefit in terms on that of the scratching if youre thats that peabody inec active that is that can be negative today maybe you put a cape outlets that can be positive this is why the new telly they decided to test only people we see in the back that they think is that he leaves. Out do you use that that is out of the best for them because the test is asked depends on the situation hes like a photography of that moment. So this situation can change you know for kate alice and maybe if they would be bad a different kind of death that i that he detests which to add to that is that i can wage these might be really had. Well there are reports of some new halley tests and of course over here you can get privately tested im going to ask you anecdotally not scientifically you tested of course positive but im sure you know of people that have died of the virus is there any correlation is it obviously people with underlying illness is there more susceptible to dying from covert 19 and are you seeing any other correlations why is it were getting reports of younger people now dying of coronavirus you my experience or what i am most sad thing when i say what is that they might judge us that we have that you may ask because i have between esthetically people or so are both 85 even 90 are so ill because we have enough single tread that lead people easy going to say because there are people even we deny that it is easy its quite like 4550 s so again they develop a serious illness that add that people we do many diseases say and they dont develop serious illnesses so. Im not experiencing a clear correlation between that they use these as u. S. Border. Your genetic condition and the 11 of these that you develop because its gotten a right dr sylvia big i mean we thank you thank you very much thank you. Well if you believe the u. S. Department of labor theres nothing anecdotal about the greatest rise in unemployment in u. S. History and here in new liberal britain initiatives like the universal basic income to save millions from the effects of coronavirus being shot down. By ex Goldman Sachs banker and current u. K. Chancellor is use an ak joining me is the man that could have been advising the government on implementation of u b i have Jeremy Corbin had 1 december general election his new book is battling a giant basic income now guy thanks so much for coming on you know before i even get to the book whats your reaction to this unprecedented jobs figure how can your liberal economies cope with unemployment rises like 3280000 in the United States and who knows what its going to be in britain. Well i think were reaching the bubble quite near the parole experiment of the past 3 decades when were confronted by a unique combination of circumstances try to get where just a small downturn will lead to a cascading situation of homelessness people on unable to pay off that and a lack of demand full basic goods and services and in that respect the job or attention scheme wont succeed it is chronically inefficient it is going to be administered at least chaotic and its highly regressive maybe the government already realizes it because its trumpeting the fact that hundreds of thousands of people maybe millions by the time the repeats of this program is shown are claiming universal credit the phone lines are open and and things are going really well for universal credit you call it immoral in your new book 8 battling 8 giants basic income there yet because huge numbers of people love qualify for the universal credit card and the only way they can operate you know that the credit is in effect a battling universal credit a basic income will be far more transparent far more easy to operate and far more easy to understand ordinary people and their well huge numbers of people who fall through the cracks into total destitution the more people in diprivan asia the longer this current that doris will go on and the worse the consequences of the recession and depression that were going to face then why is it that Boris JohnsonDonald Trump New liberal leaders are saying theyre going to put up their arms around us there is no pro carry out anymore the word that you so often used before although some people have been alleging that johnson has been slow to act because people were trying to force his hand with the universal being basic income something he really did not want to do. Well i think the kerry sujan gretton as in other countries and i think the the theme of my book the 8 giants. Involved millions of people in britain the inequality is going to be increased not decreased in this crisis the insecurity which is the 2nd giant in the book is going to become Even Stronger and even deeper the debt that i mentioned earlier is going to get worse the stress for the book is already enormous and is going to be intensified enormously by this this piracy as it all unfolds the sense of preparing to the sense of being supplicants not having rights this is something that was already in demick in the system and is going to be intensified and that is why we need a transparent universal income floor that everybody would get and at least they would have basic security and they will not be understand as built into the system which is what unfortunately the chance has introduced its arguably being influenced and amplified by the only garcon in the media in this country but tory the tory architect of universal credit bedroom taxes to child policies Ian Duncan Smith here says it is a disincentive to work it is an affordable and got to think of it if as youre saying these policies are going to exacerbate the problems of the precariat we have the army now to instill the law and order i listened to his statements and i think that crises if theres anything that is stronger as a disincentive to work it is this scheme that they just introduced you will only get it if your per load and if you are green not to do any work thats a crazy its just assessed up with a basic income you overcome. The poverty trap that end duncan smith has admitted exists so to me a basic thing that is actually an incentive to work and the evidence i show in the book shows very clearly from around the world that well people have basic security they work lol not less and they are more productive when they work not less so in fact its complete middle class pockets on his part that he thinks that people would stop work he receives huge subsidies from the government and sell to his family i dont notice that. In doing work well people are going to read the book and watch our previous interviews where you give more detail arguably only universal basic income and given that you would have been advising a labor government if you call been had one do you think now your idea will die if the favorite to replace corbin can start is to lead the labor party i think they will introduce it i was very impressed by the large number of m. P. s from across the political spectrum and members of the house of lords signing a letter last week in favor of basic income i think we should be introducing pilots immediately in certain areas to roll it out and show how it would work i feel that this is a lonely way areas governments in various countries are going to move in this direction the inevitability of Something Like a basic income is starting to dawn on even the most. Indoctrinated dogmatic opponents professor guy can executive and very much after the break how does communist cuba offer a guaranteed universal income and lead the global fight against corona virus in asian nations with its doctors and medical treatments all of them all coming up about europe going underground. Dont. Believe the weird things by the way its called superstition or magical thinking believing weird things like that is not a bug in the system its a feature things comes equipped in the software of our programming to try to connect things in the environment just in case theres a real connection. Welcome back in the 1st half we heard about them what more needs to be done by neo liberal western countries to tackle coronavirus but what if the solution lies in a tiny communist country dozens of videos posted on social media last week showed cuban doctors arriving in nature countries like italy where the pandemic had hit the hardest to help slow the virus so why is a country seen by many in nature nations as a failed state proving so proficiency when it comes to medical internationalism and humanitarian aid joining me via skype from glasgow is dr helen the f. A. Whose new book we are cuba how revolutionary people have survived in a post soviet world explores how the islands revolutionary people have survived despite decades of u. S. Sanctions and tara thank you so much ellen for coming on the show said 62 years ago this month the usa began the military blockade of cuba why if someone reads your book would you not be surprised to see cuban doctors arriving in italy or british passengers on a cruise ship showing abana we love i love cuba after reading your book. Well exactly and the medical internationalism that we see today thats being celebrated in terms of peoples contribution to the coding 19 pandemic has actually been a key feature of Cuban Foreign policy for 60 years of the revolution initially it was mostly medics who were accompanying soldiers who were at assisting with National Liberation struggles all around africa and other regions really in since the late 1990 s. The shift of human internationalism has gone for military medical and we saw that 1st with. The after hurrican was in Central America and the cuban sent medics and when they got there they found that they just there was an infrastructure in place to be able to assist people in the way that was needed and that is when fidel castro had the initiative at the d end of the 1990 s. To set up a Latin American School of medicine and initially for populations from Central America which had been and then stated by natural disasters to come and train so that they wouldnt just be dependent on cuban medics but to help them to establish the stayner pull and health care that was universal and free at the point of delivery and and since then weve seen the numbers of human medical professionals overseas and growing and growing in venezuela most people will have her out of the oil for Doctors Program which source someplace he files and and cuban medical professionals who are working in venezuela in 2014 we had the deadly outbreak of the ebola virus in west africa and the cubans already had teams in several of the countries are affected and they impulse to those teams we have specialists who could help them to combat the deadly. Craig ok but it is just in this country all we hear about is british soldiers actually helping a bowler in africa and theres been very little about even pictures on Mainstream Media here about cuba helping in a time of coronavirus let alone the fact that you mention the revolution they dont really mention the nato countries of course supported the fascist dictatorship that fidel castro overthrew were told in britain or the time and certainly in the United States people are told the cuba is a repressive dictatorship far worse than any. Offering far less fear of life outcomes than youd get in any british or american in a city the only issue is that cuba actually presents a threat to the dominant political and Economic System around the world the fact that a small caribbean island nation which was subjected to hundreds of years of colonialism and imperialism and and thinks the revolution has effectively been subject to a very punitive and stringent blockade by the United States which includes in the restrictions and Healthcare Equipment educational treatment food and medicine the fact that a country like that can and actually lead to the welt in medical internationalism have more doctors working overseas than in the World Health Organization has put out some inspired Technology Industry and that you know offer hope at this precise moment of the of the pandemic but also you know that are Offering Solutions to the diabetic foot ulcers affects you know nearly half a 1000000000 people well why theyre Offering Solutions for a lung cancer they havent lung cancer vaccine and immunotherapy which is currently being trialled actually in new york so you know theres always an attack. I dont sort of sally the reputation of cuba because what what is a threat to the system is if people start to examine cuba too closely and say well how is that possible how can this small island despite being a green fighting mightiest economic and political power on the planet how can it have resisted but not only resisted because i think the argument that im making in my book is that hubris best form of resistance has actually been to develop an alternative model of development and that is the socialist system and you know for years when you started Human History d and all policies you could read the english language text and they would tell you that the the cuban revolution was only 35 in france to solve your hate because it was a satellite in soviet union but by the time my book was published the cuban revolution has existed independently and for longer out since the soviet bloc collapsed and before so there is a story to be told do you think the pictures if you see them on for independent media and on social media of the cuban doctors will finally put that to bed that it was somehow cuban communism only survived because of the u. S. S. R. I mean tell me about interferon b. Which are presumably americans wont be able to have access to as a possible therapeutic for coronavirus because of the sanctions what does interfere and me. Well interferon b. Is ringback an antiviral drug which the which is being developed by various Pharmaceuticals Companies around the world that cubans have their version of interferon after today and that i am starting to work with interferons to move in 45 days they have their own distinctive cuban interface interferon product now this was very fortunate because within a few weeks of that they had a very very real an outbreak of and then the fever it was a form of thank you that had never been seen in the americans before and the cuban suspected the cia the state department of 90 but a recent investigation has using bioinformatics hands in the cubans claim shown that the cia was involved in the instruction of this and the fever now the cubans used the interferon in the 1st ever Mass Public Health campaign therapy advent combat the only fever and they were successful in may and they produced this product interferon and to be in 986 it has Different Solutions and stabilizes to the products produced in other countries therefore it is a distinctly human product to have to think britain Boris Johnson better than donald trump of the United States should be asking to work with cuba on this i should say the British Government did thank the cuban government for. A loan in the caribbean accepting a ship or waco it per 1000. 00 cases were but britain has so far not condemned obviously the blockade joining this pandemic. No i mean the the British Government like most governments in the out in fact all governments in the weld x. Usually except 2 which is the United States and israel does actually vote against the us blockade of cuba in the General Assembly in the amul where cuba condemns the blockade and so the question is should should they be asking for access to this interferon which the chinese National Health commission and up to this antiviral drug to come back over 99. 00 has found it to be very effective its now according to documents ive seen at the top of them its for treatment and if this treatment has been solicited now from cuba by at least 15 countries were hearing but you know ive been contacted by people in the United States and in hospitals in here all they are also pretty desperate to get hold of this and you know they face the fact that they have the u. S. Brocade which will deny them access yes and if there is evidence that interferon alpha to be is you know assisting patients and stopping them get and stopping the slowing down the death rate of reducing the deficit and the British Government should absolutely be talking to cuber about how they can access this about the point is cuba is characterized as being a dictatorship to have no democracy whatsoever and yet your book appears to be saying its a country where theres constant debate constant critiques constant changes of government policy through consultations and referendum. Well look there are different in understanding some both human rights and democracy and so the United Nations recognizes 2 sets of human rights and one set of economic social and cultural rights the other set a Civil Liberties and political right now we have a centrally planned socialist Economic System where Human Welfare is prioritized social economic and cultural rights have to be prioritized and of in the United States is about the Civil Liberties and Political Rights which essentially means freedom to set up your own business its part of a People Freedom oath and speech but only if you have access you know all the freedoms that actually are mediated by your access to purchase and so in cuba the most fundamental right of the right to life and to have the right to life you need to have access free universally so all of those things that we need to move food Health Care Education but they have a concept the concept of living which is much higher on the other question of democracy you know if you take the preferred political expression all of the mostly in france comes to these countries which is the multiparty system usually procapitalist parties and if you take that as meaning democracy you look for that in cuba you find its missing and therefore you can conclude that hubris not democratic but they have a different system of representation so i can give you an example the current process of for forms is taking place under the label of the guidelines for the economic and social policy and then while produced these are actual guidelines on changes they want to see happening they were produced and distributed to every single cuban into bait about this document there when needed 9000000 people participating and those comments were registered and they were centralized and they were analyzed categorized and 68 percent of that document was subsequently change as a result. Of Public Opinion well if cuba is also better suited to cope with a pandemic the editor of the Peer Reviewed lancet said social justice was key in in responding to the pandemic and collective action is going to be more useful than thatcherite blairite individualism what about now the threat of capitalism emerging on the island well you know that and cuba has room for maneuver has been restrained to restraint and particularly since the trumpet ministration and they have introduced these reforms which i referred to which do create spaces for the market they have created many and self employed people many on Small Businesses and and all of these things are economic necessity why are they only can i make necessity because like any country in the wealth let alone a country going to develops or centuries as i said cuba needs capital it cannot get the capital it needs for investments in infrastructure and productivity and for improvements in peoples lives cant get externally and frou. d people is not a member of the i. M. F. The world bank or any of these other International Financial institutions the problem is that the Trump Administration has revised all of the openings of the blockade because of course about and never going to procreate in fact he his progress was very limited but theyre trying to ministration has now taken over some place possibly more aggressive than any president since the cuban the beginning of the cuban revolution you know hes in that in something called true free of the hands balancing act on the helms person act was piece of u. S. Legislation which defies the u. S. Blockade in law but title 3 was never implemented because it has such drastic implications not just became a vote for any country in the world wants to trade with cuba and in. It what it implies is that any u. S. Business or individual who own property that was nationalized during the revolution where our or not the fact is that they were offered compensation which they turned down and if any fair party then invest with all or all has any kind of business with the that property now they can be sued in the us court so totally illegal in the International Terms its actually a territorial application of the us role not telling you nothing thank you. Lots of the show will be back on wednesday irans Islamic Republic day is the u. S. Sanctioned country that reportedly the lunar virus death every 10 minutes now received support from cuba until then for all the news not covered by the Mainstream Media join the on the ground by following us on you Twitter Facebook instagram the time. I cant show you my face but im going to teach you must store in 9093 this man was sentenced to death. 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