Behind closed doors everything takes place in utmost secrecy. Every tradition are secret i mean thats thats the purpose of an arbitration if you dont want to get cleared as is just does come from who organizes it and who defends us. After all in the end its we the taxpayers who pay the bill. Keogh for ducasse of the office on Community Affairs all over for the. Community leader because through. To truly understand we need to penetrate a very violent system where multinationals sue our states and try to impose their laws. On. All paul good to live free to critical mistral deductible. Oil price good deeds usually feel good all fine was back when i see sort of just junk someone took gentlemen. With their great powers or just emerging all countries under gold is justice this affects our most basic Rights Health the environment wages and human rights we finally reveal the incredible power of International Arbitration tribunals. And. Its clear. If you look. 2 in colombia along the upper east river in amazonia north american Mining Companies are prospecting for gold at the liberal town site the sacred birthplace of 7 Indigenous Peoples. But in 2009 concerned about the environment the colombian state cost the 5. 00 the zone as a natural park which ended the mining concession 2. After years of negotiation attempts with the colombian government in 2016 andres rendel c. E. O. Of the Canadian Company cozy go associated with the texan company told the mining counterattacks he files an arbitration request i personally did not know of the option of International Arbitration where it will always heard of the world court but we here are my time i dont believe that was between 2 governments that were debating things. But the ability to take our case to the International Court of arbitration was a welcome relief for our shareholders to know that we dont have to depend on maybe some emotional sentiment by a judge in some rural location who is being pressured by his local. Mayor. Andries to mental seek profit just as he chooses to defend himself in paris with. A business lawyer specializing in arbitration disputes. There are many. Hello. Yes and yes no longer me just like right there. Listen 1st. Yours were past the cooling off period did not result in any kind of mediation thats the. One question i was thinking of was the big schooling off period how long is that normally where into the middle course. Which theres a meeting oh the 3 or be triggers that will constituent the patrician panel which still takes weeks at least. I believe columbia well challenge the jurisdiction of the courts. To make decision on this work with confidence and then we will really move to yes thats the case yeah hopefully hopefully theyre crossing fingers theyll be productive be nice. I suppose see goal starts to face difficulties with this debate going on between the ministry of mines and energy and the ministry of environment we found ourselves with to get ability to work or whatever because shareholders from texas told the mining and energy motivated the company to seek. Arbitration as a way of solving this dispute of this difficulty between the colombian government as a whole and the company. Skew nipple t. Q. Died to do. This to move to cuba she moved into a new phenomena limbo nationals the. Usual not an option only this new some chinese in assume an. It is a name who was. Written to mean you can. Do it only seemed he knew cuba. A lot should have been a mature country every. Big. Free trade agreements. To understand that they had to respect the agreements so that investors money would not be lost stolen. There was a lot of money and a lot of effort and a lot of motivation from small investors getting together small investors buying their resources their work under the colombian government regulation of it helped the ministry of mines find assets for the colombian people. Whose 20 which is excluded. From. The. More of the law and on the thought of it for you teach this to me even then. I throw in 20 these seem to fit so not. Unknown. A new area of tension in free trade agreements is the introduction of private arbitration. Present in most International Trade agreements this is still is supposed to guarantee a fair impartiality to Foreign Investors that they can defend themselves against 8 abuse or overly restrictive legislation. Because if you dont own this you know since once i may not do is going to. Keep my question are you are if you think you know me as you do several these are developed long several days in the classroom it is amusing. It is amused he said. If this is with us and for most of the older folks in pleasing. Did you feel. The need to be priests and if you want to susans to be different on us in. These arbitrators are not judges but Business Lawyers who take turns as the main arbitrator state defender or corporate defender. The connally pain they are often seen as a true multimillionaire industry dominated by a small those eat acting in great secrecy and too often giving priority to investors. While in some cases it seems normal to compensate them is that always in the interest of the populations involved. Was. Was. When we were beginning to enter the area the northern native tribes watch a tree develop the might of the Southern Group who was not in the might was not on the area were motivated by n. G. O. 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It was at the initiative of the end shell guy amazonas that the natural park was created prohibiting gold mining on the entire Indian Reserve nelson ortiz a member of this ngo regularly returns to support the indians in their fight against mining is. Going to trickle see. Enjoyed your kids. In the united. Way down. What i found. Out about yeah. So if i. Get 98 feet out. Of it im going this way if youre a man. Im going to fulfill the repeated purposes apologise to the people and promise to be you know with all bots the truth. Pretty. Much. How you want to 1st. Know. Call. A dark industry comes to life in los angeles every night. Dozens of women sells their bodies on the streets many of them underage. Police reveal a taste of their daily challenge you know if youre going to exploit our child here in los angeles there were going to come as you see officers going undercover as 6 workers and customers to fight the 6 trades. Believing weird things by the way is called superstition or magical thinking believing weird things like that is not a bug in the system its a feature comes equipped in the software of our program mean to try to connect things in the environment. Asked in case theres a real connection and. If. I. Sent the old this i flick fan through this t. N. T. s before did they the death the clinton inflamed wasnt nuncio meaning of flu for looks. Good about the salmon people from above to feed. Is this food that if this same for fun said that she was about night since she had this is so media a duck is to see it i see if i see the i want to know why one ending but up way to put him out hed say it into the chances hes had with her last year my grandma but. Whatever form we put something would want to sort it out i you can see on our youth died by our youth they look with us here on. The Indigenous Peoples of the forest belong to dozens of ethnic groups who share the same origin stories. And many sacred sites of this land are its living organs. Ensuring the ceremony the shoeman mentally draw is a path that connects these sites a pound of healing that must remain untouched. With and have waited to see if the fan if they come up a number you thoughtfully dived with. It and i said by this wonder about this for a lab for use as a plume didnt we threaten me if i. Had got to do research. What a phone. Oh. So to do that up for me. The indians have not always spoken with a single voice. To the andre swindle problem is the money and a better life of some in the Indigenous Community the elders in general refused all mining from the start but others were tempted by rentals little gifts. To. A consultation meeting is organized the tribes gather at the traditional house of the their meeting place. And. Worry because it goes complained they are making a manifesto for the colombian state to reaffirm their resistance to mining. So they are not going to now and i think it could affect all payments and it had to get that private and i got mine i think at the time to make a. Name out of that but what does that come of it but if i dont buy that i would have a headache im not gonna be here but i dont. Feel good but i do make it if i go and then you know i did yeah my looking at it. But everybody i know you. As is their mother. Almost as if there was a. Boy. Going to the program or going to new york and to go but oprah where nick when this that if you want them all know this youre in with the i dont want this you. Know i mean that young. Keep the new moon look at the name of. My. Life. A little to the. Greed of separates the world views of the indians and miners. Seek to protect their intentional property and culture. Others think only of extracting the gold in indian soil and disappear tensional profits. Yeah. We were talking with jeremy and he was updating us on some of the stuff that was going on with the arbitration and that you know they were probably acting in bad faith both with in my opinion both with the 1st nations people and especially with the company on the pretext. Of you know the environment so i dont know if you have any anything extra you know we can tell them to let our partners know down there. Well i mean my opinion is that as you know and history is true even if i. Do it. You when you get used. To actually. You know. This maybe 3 have interest. And truly was a perilous trial just any apartment. Just alchemical. Rock out there so stories about holding out for our country and theyre also. Accept why this has nothing to do with you in these circumstances whatsoever this is about power and land today what ive met with the socalled. Charge. I read. To that still. We can do what we want. She said yes she did but we decided to park your last. Were talking. Billions because thats the iron ore gold mine. And all the a copy of all south america i. Loose my car out. The window we think our next trip or enough arbitration is well. Back off. Even if when you should try and see any possibility of losing go all the way with us and if it takes 2 years or to back off. For. The. Finale of the night. This is the greatest and that is that. It is some of this you know this thing that unless youre not this money just the most good great then im one of the boys young theyve not done us they maybe i mean theres no that in 30 years now but i did get the money but they missed back the eyes days and now this is money they can turn into that it just isnt combustibles that one has to be done it will be done this is the business end their lives ruined d lives. Its time to take action and to share this experience with other Indigenous Peoples. Representative of the upper east reserve one carlos press yaddo presents the manifesto to the International Forum of Indigenous Peoples organized by the bogota state. In addition to the indian populations this forum includes academics n. G. O. S and government members. The forums goal to support the Indigenous Peoples of south america in their right to be consulted before the adoption of all projects they concern them. More than 1000 people are present you broke it back they say. That this was how to get. One carlos. Urges communities to organize to preserve their autonomy and resist mining and tourism projects. I mean. Out because one top area. Is. The companys idea in. The. One carlos wants to spread the word to a wider audience. To at the end. He meets markel velasquez a lawyer specializing in International Commercial law and human rights. To. Our doubt hes going to be honored to join a rock i view out as we do square. Our military this. Is me in the universe those gentlemen do not is very nice here is the man who knows. You bet and theres enough stuff to illness that took you know way to. Know when is it going to get. You some skin in the car as you visit in the us its got the mind of what is a secret i love this one could look at our kids in these army that brazil queued up on the business of this years opposite together that are beating the bushes is going to be driving the story is that was the really the. Idea got him for my feet on kevin durant in the lead but hes. Got the victim here. Very concerned by the attacks of foreign multinationals against his country monaco is writing articles and preparing a book on the subject. He is visiting his former ph d. Supervisor gus van harden in toronto to discuss the upcoming trial. A specialist in International Investments long highly critical of arbitration tribunals he has regularly intervened on the International Scene sounding the alarm for years. But only in 5 of the last weeks have been like a roller coaster in colombia i mean these claim. No one i want to talk to you about the sort of. Force or go yet of ignoring case yes 16000000000 us i would say 20 percent of colombias National Public budget it was quite surprising because public authorities were saying that the agreements negotiated were positive for the corn 3 and that Foreign Investors would never start by claiming that corn 3 in these are very moment is what happened then why is the car long be on the. Law is not good enough for these Foreign Investors it is not the case that core long as i think they are sheeps were trying to solve our problems were trying to become a more stable country and we have the means to do it but with these type of cases or not were forced to reach durable peace are put into question its not the 1st country to be surprised by a foreign investor claims these treaties are like a ticking time bomb for taxpayer sooner or later they so theres not a lot of public discussion of these cases no doubt as well likewise i have a column in the newspaper and i try to open the gate but the only thing i got from them was about the permanent ignorance thats because its embarrassing to the trade department to see these treaties that they negotiated. Used against the country if youre a foreign investor and you want to leverage against the government of course you would have an interest in many cases to keep it all confidential because if you keep it confidential and the government keeps a confidential then they can do deals. To. Say. Look sick in the next dodge i may do so why dont. You do you know could you be divinely kid because its us you know but i think you did. A 50 year old kid to do this work you dont you see what you dont see you next that dog isnt good but you see nothing. Surely bonus that theres only. Join me every thursday on the alec simon show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business im showbusiness ill see you then. Your government and our government and all the other major governments of the world know whats going to happen and when its going to. But they havent told you and they havent told me they havent announced. Imagine something as big as the earth. Is going to cause tidal waves earthquakes volcanoes erupt and its going to chill. So very for a while right. My great grandfathers. Nobody would care about the law or prison so youd have wallace the should have. A terrible life between now and the. Damn action or times you were going underground broke us doing from one of the epicenters of the coronavirus pandemic is the 2nd week of u. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson socalled lockdown begins coming up in the show a warning for me to the we go to hear from the Health Director of a clinic on the frontline of the Global Pandemic and this johnson a recent act like on the nature of nation finance ministers rejects a universal basic income instead opting for arguably impossible loans shouted johnson John McdonaldFinancial Advisor on his new book on basic income and not making