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To ask all the important questions about coronaviruses im joined here by we do our just present dulce diana. Michael sub war of. Michael welcome to the show our so many questions about the ongoing me so there are a lot of truly dabney diseases where the significantly higher mortality rate and call it 19 ball of virus. Inside. Bird flu 39 swine flu 17 how come that this virus not the worlds deadliest by any means could the whole planet on a lockdown. That. Joint your question for the sake or just not for what infection this special is but now the word that. We hear. You can use years which is. Deadly for. What has been laid for people and that elderly people though hear their shanties why did you send. Nola to get in that series and i think its you wanted shoes are going to level off lets say left or. Smallpox saw if you have a Certain Group which is. Select why a high level of mortality that. May well bruce was not necessarily understanding all. Young people are not affected as much. But now i mean the before we get to the age groups there are under risks do you think it can potentially become something as downlead as in 1976. Actually millions of people. I think the main issue was spending new world situation the war situation you have to know. First of all it was the 1st time civilization actually went on and the much worse civilization the people one was. When there are a suspicious or went through a new packaging or the law is which influenza in corona are they. First time this happened of course nobody knew what to do nobody actually. In on talk or does it we were it was the 1st war the millions of you who are dying on the field and the who cares if you know somebody has to do you cited that and do and thats i think again thats all this cordial the musee called a special way to special knowledge has become incredibly incredibly. Select im junk im in good health i dont know can they tell me i should worry about the current marriage because if i get it ill most likely have a mild form of or you know i dont risk death as much as elderly people but do we know what the long term exacts are carrying 19 can be i mean came in for instance or raising the risk of lung cancer in a future chance show salingers and other organ systems no no no we have no data on that thats on lists us. Or you know now everybodys become suddenly. Its not they dont do that whatsoever we are very mild if you just wrote or a disease that slake that is a virus. If you want and that you know evidence that its any chronic or. Station to any kind of. Cancer years old. I. I well im sane. As a new inspection nobody here or any and were all like you know entire population of the world is not protected this is the Biggest Issue because whoevers guess that the person who will be. In 2nd right but whats in the next means its only a small portion of the people who will be actually in the. In the monday dollars who will have the. Show thats only 6 percent will have a disease need to be hospitalized it means we hear future. Like forms like you describe and thats you know quite simple diseases and. Disease in we have. Only been used to where just after they contact with while they have and then people wonder they have never been well they have one thats why i want one outbreak a stock otherwise how would they are that the measures come along guys you have to realize that all the measures on you can point to disease but not prevent. Guns we know youre safe dont you who are. Ok so here is the 1000000. 00 question dittos in fact it will cost the 19. 00 develop immunity. Lets say i get me and my way clear to get it again like get implants out for instance or flu or and then not never going to get it again absolutely youre developing you do you will not and never get that again thats yes thats. A need and. If you listen. We know that charice you remember this you will virus. Dude of course mrs john. The bats. But in the south and to. Yeah our own white nebraska if you unity what it is 5 years who dont know because nobody told you no it means lets say this way what we know now that they are on the all of it well probably gave you the same 5 Year Old Girl and he was no noted. Here i have to tell you the stories are it was are so public asian also called secondary cases are. And anybody that was listening to us will say oh michael what you say you will need to know they did have a secondary around the wire stations and some people an idiot darling yes that was a war of death in month secondary. We have 2 yards. Thats created by us thats going to eat it but human. Are all the control we have to test its nonsense she is a test which should give you. Any test give you your own finite. Salts was it you date it millions will take someone who isnt logged into it at all right and who hates you and one concern that the person will be what will be positive. But in the ana to persons not sick. Once you have a student there are some who are you would immediately get in build that kind of game that is if you have none of them they will put him in the stadium was. 10000 other people who are positive whats happened to the 1st person to get the disease is infection and the person who will be discharged from the Hospital Union in question period. All of those who go home does it because it was an act and death cant gain jets best to get in infection and they will say so what hes saying isnt basically eastern mismanagement of humans that leads to the 2nd case at 19 but not that if you get it once you can never get it again or at least for 5 years right absolutely and look in china the credit virus most aggressive at the very beginning and then it became less scary as a lot of people were getting the flu lexingtons and some had some they didnt have symptoms and all should we expect that could 900 will soon change into an ordinary respiratory disease that will be you know more or less harmed. Yes thats true the very beginning 1st time i resent the war russian. Magazine and who are the i said any. In the beginning is a vanity of year wine because viruses are all horst everything is the wrong part of our lives and why is everything because the film. Goes through the 1st cases the 2nd cases winds. And thats why it was occurring we in the. Zillions type of the wire reasons we have more severe and less severe and less of years will be example of the career they have now great but they have only. 5 more again a month but its. What is going on. Still when we look at condemn excess it follows like a common scenario as far as i understand it starts. Then it sort of appears out doesnt mean that you can adopt all kinds of strictest measures through entire citizen lockdown but none of it will work until the Critical Mass of people gaps in fact it until it peaks is past us yes youre right but given its not going to work if you really clear out all the others youre ok but its not the goal of the current to go there at all just see slowly were all get sick was in a month just in the medical system will collapse record. Number of people. Even good system of clean industry. You know yes thats the main goal is to make a good morning or to make it slow who in this case we have several hopes earth the older sister will continue to work a 6 year people in severe she will have a cold and lost enough health for their. Second we were waiting for the treatment thats what it pulls now we you know the name of the routes are in the trial and that speed up trial the people working in our 7 all. Will have so then we were due for the last 2 yet again everybody is going crazy about once and then when hes working on it thats it means its going out saw we hear its the whole studio issue which is a video. Game thats what the current you know michael m. T. V. Show rate right now when we come back well continue talking to you to my knowledge east at present of time perhaps institue eichel some were talking about all the real things about the cold 819 stay with us. A dark industry comes to life in los angeles every night. 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And were back with Michael Warren sapp humala just talking about killing 19 michael theres a question that bothers you know its rhyme being told and i understand youve confirmed that some people and. The. The sentiment probably 19 but cannot feel it its not have any symptoms. Absolute majority of all theyre all in so you dont feel anything like no house no no nothing and that means that i can take as many precautions as i want and not seal the collet when i have it and in sac my parents who are 60 plus if i leave wasnt right thats thats a Biggest Issue in the us. That you have what you came to your parents in they get air they might have a severe disease thats exactly the biggest problem whatsoever here and thats why the brits actually in the big general dollar break they said ok guys you get young guys you can go go there well you know you live well you can go to the cold its very. Isolation complete isolation. So what do you think is the the best approach i mean the whole herd immunity that britain was going for but didnt truly. Do it at the end or what people are trying to do now sit in a lockdown prevention measures and sort of you know prolonging their way to. Cope with 90 to spike i think or the silly person who is somewhat brought records its you know one way or there thats a dynamic process because its a dynamic process something happening beginning something happening something happens even to dissolve its all different stage of the beginning its it its on type of. Response which you need to implement in this case what did they take you as max possible contacts among young people with their you do not herd immunity in basil a elderly unfortunately. Moment of pique which they go through as a hero to many cases too many cases say enough to stop it because. Theyre trying new case in here they. Ask people who died as a nurse and doctor to come to the hospital and it means that the system is all the lower end its way to break now they lock up the city dont go anywhere you know because its a pretty much immediately spot because the buyers ration period lets say one week and if you lost a well. I think it should be one way or the other like in any other country they just look at countries and hope for the best yeah but. You can look long. On the what the does it mean that the herd immunity doesnt work so theyre there to be if everyone is getting really sick and theres such an overload account system and theyre asking for the retired nurses and doctors to come to hospitals to get their hands that mean that the whole approach occurred and it didnt really were. No i did not. In that in britain we cant. Generate britain working out the adequate system all 3 can elderly and probably because we dont have the best we have already. People in here i think you are thinking. But in any any any other example we have like where. Italy or where theyre going to get what we owe and to spain where they track a lot i mean thats. Your conclusion is possible but unfortunately all this. Question we can only answer. With. Well as a whole is there any way of knowing that and how do we know when the worst i in numbers are coming and can we predict how big they will be so that the u. S. Could prepare ready or does i think its in my face book its not. Just the war because you ask the rest i question you all outbreaks cows develop. In this year we did hear that all of the well it wasnt say it was just to kill numbers of today that go out and youll see you know plus minus you know. Cases a day but. I would say its going to be in your in your urine yes thats. The what exactly are Health Care Systems missing to be able to deal with a large volume in fact why honey missing it and 1st how do you think that the medical management is working. Its wrecking on the number of necessities lets say was a normal break where here the number of hospitals the number of isolations number or far equipment its actually. The thirst has and to fill the. Patients it means year to year somebody is already using the sick or somebody already in. Here nobody build that extra intensive care for it and certainly on top of that even just 200 cases what to do with what to do with people who are any of their equipment. Thats the course its additional whatever is additional well never were always focused on it because only and do not spend any extra money its news if you if you have allowed thats the extra. You need the extra resources in the. Silt and danny im just looking at it globally do you think endemic is a sign of whats the next decade will be like sars was a minor nuisance compared to this is it only going to get worse every time. You know i think. Humans well that the size was really bad but was contained. Too long to such a huge. Population as a current civilization and what do we if you all do whereas if theyre called it came during the summer starring no will he never even socks the death knell great they proclaim realize that go sols and miles from just. Their bets theyre bringing them. Into this if you and suddenly foam some of them on the. Market thats. Yes and i think that there will actually be if you continue to pick. On purchasing and all of the businesses which in many parts of the walled people are doing was a wild animals the ball is in storage is a deed the day they founded you a bets which become kind of you know very popular huge its actually flying fox news you know its a star fish you need a ticket to the bazaar if you can. And you get a bully yeah well. Its all the same nor in your decisions was no purpose of environment something or was that was a one. So little as church the 1st wave of measures work and the 1st batch of people actually stuck spreading the disease the sharon thousands and everyone stops watching and eating while the gettings and in the paris makes a comeback how serious will this 2nd what can we do to keep that i think a question if you watch for Chinese Government where theyre the wild d animals. Because of their traditional methods you know they have all parts of bodies or number of the big grain joke or wild animals i used to work in china a view that exotic bizarre its almost in many ways me how they. Are all this he says of the ending most body bears. Whatever but with bats we have with the suit his constituency that and i think the more great example. Where. I think its. Easier to put it when you know not china is not. Who are at home doing whatever they want to assume that it was there thats probably the danger they will stop yeah. Now hopes are really high and at the barras maybe seasonal rain we hear a lot that you know a country where theres a lot of sun and its humid it doesnt run that last what do you think well hear from the beginning i was not squire who told you what her conduct was a cd she might. Wear used to offer 25 years a bargain is that its looks like or well hope well that the artist is just and all and then i found some internet ended. Well theyre not on my work in central asia i just gave their name just count where theyre very location and you in central asia location i dont number. Of diseases or theyre all diseases in central asia right now and they show that influenza lowlevel office where authorities is last year during the last season it means yeah and he says many people but then how come it is raging in iran it is raging in saudi arabia i mean economists pretty hot even right now over there now so sorry if there is too late interesting question i dont want to go there but i dont think its a very big if you end it its not some very very small iraq its a nightmare its a cost in its again the result of human are. All over italy italy is a few and there is a do not know the 1st game what was 10 days including the danger here 10 days in your regular hospital one who will do this if people do it on the simplest them it was a virus distribute 10 days is a long dark in civil war scare and iraq. We only have like a minute or 2 laps and even we may just sort of perhaps. Get a little rest in me and its a 1000000 dollar question but 2 questions when using it will it end and how soon are we going to get a vaccine i think its. Within 6 months like. China. At the end you go. One i think some all get a year and the rest of the world was and was and. Michael thank you so much for this wonderful. Raising speaking. Of the most vital questions that are bothering everyone right now. So much. Trade and investment to become magic spells to conjure economic development. Most people think about trade they think about goods and services being exchanged between countries the in fast chapter of a trade agreement as something very different but what when investment leads to toxic manufacturing that destroys secrets of the environment. That means local communities that are being poisoned if they object if they do anything that a company feels is interrupting their profits they can be certain. Of taking on the whole nation Philip Morris is trying to use i. S. 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Well coming up to us from around the world live from Central London this is r. T. U. K. Im develop tomorrow. The greater bar is set to state the temperature of. The system called cold medical advice was tested not tested pulse to. U. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson and Health Secretary not one called confirmed to have coronavirus as the pandemic hits the heart of government. Doctors in Northern Ireland claims theyre being forced to work in special Virus Centers risking cross contamination to their practices and families we hear from a frontline physician. The u. K. Police now have powers to find and even arrest those preaching the long down thats as the public are encouraged to report their neighbors for holding mounts gatherings but should say we hear from both sides of the debate. And critics here is out of Business Leaders including celebrity shab specific king star despite the government bailout. Welcome to our team u. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson and Health Secretary much hancock have tested positive for corona virus but the pm has confirmed hell continue to remain in charge of the government r. T. Shadi evers dusty joins me now with the latest on this hi there shoddiest so corona virus as we said at the heart of government absolutely coronavirus has now hit the heart of westminster as you say both the Prime Minister Boris Johnson and the house secretary called have now contract to the infection of the Prime Minister after exhibiting mild symptoms was advised by his chief medical officer to get tested and yes he has indeed caught private 19 writes on twitter he says he isnt self isolation in number 10 but will still be in charge of operations to tackle the outbreak. Hi folks i want to bring you up to speed is something thats happening today which is that i developed models symptoms of the corona virus thats to say a temperature and a persistent cough and on the advice of the chief medical officer ive taken a test that has come out positive so i am working from home im sober isolating and thats entirely the right thing to do but be no doubt that i can continue thanks to the with technology to communicate with all my top team to lead the national fight back against corona virus and i want to thank everybody whos involved i want to thank but of course above all our amazing n. H. S. Staff it was very moving last night to join in the national crap for the n. H. S. Well as you just heard the Prime Minister says he is ok to continue working as usual Via Technology rather than face to face meetings we understand he even chaired the cave at 19 david meeting with his cabinet this morning now shortly after the Prime Minister announced his Health Issues the house secretary that hancock did the same he says he too has tested positive for corona virus after developing lolled symptoms all the fever and a persistent cough on wednesday night and he says his self isolating and working from home. Ive also had some mild symptoms of coronavirus and palm medical advice i was tested and that test has been positive sabi self isolating here till next thursday fortunately for me the symptoms so far been very mild so ive been able to carry on with the work driving forward the u. K. Response. The question now though is who has a Prime Minister and indeed the house secretary been in close contact with for weeks now Boris Johnson has been working in a very close proximity with both the chief medical officer and the chief science officer to he up until last friday just last week he was at a press briefing with the 2 of them clearly not observing that to me to social distancing that the government is advising then obviously just on wednesday he was hosting the Prime Ministers questions and unusual and different unique setup for the Prime Minister and and p. S. On wednesday because they were trying to observe that social distancing so using a system of rotation to answer questions to the Prime Minister but crucially the last night the Prime Minister was indeed caught on camera he was paying tribute to the n. H. S. Staff in the clap for karas campaign that was last night observed by the chancellor as well however the chance of really soon not has not yet been tested nor has the governments chief advisor Dominic Cummings who just earlier today was running out of downing street. So the shadow of weve seen whats been happening there so whats the reaction be well the issue of testing is sensitive if not controversial the key issue is many people are wondering whether or not the government is prepared well enough in comparison to other countries we simply dont seem to be having enough tests the key anxiety the realigning design he is with it though is because of the chief medical officers that are on the frontline n. H. S. Staff have not yet been tested i think most people at this stage would agree that its perfectly reasonable and plausible for Boris Johnson the Prime Minister and other key members of state to be tested i think thats something that many people can understand that their health would be assessed but so too many would argue should the n. H. S. Start as well on twitter users are really angry at this saying that theres a real hypocrisy with testing one twitter user argues that there is a queue jumping remember of course earlier this. Week Prince Charles was also tested positive and many people really angry that those on the frontline of the crisis are not being treated adequately or being protected now the latest figures are really shocking 759. 00 people have now died from 19 since the outbreak began with nearly 15000 people contract in the virus of nearly 1115000 people being tested so still many more people to be tested for now though Boris Johnson is not stepping back from dealing with the government level of the crisis however waiting in the wings is dominic robb the foreign secretary just in case Boris Johnson needs to step up and rely on him just as a reminder of been the Health Minister nagy and doris she had this month contract at 19 at the time it seemed like a shock to westminster but clearly the news of today shows that the pandemic is going through parliament so it doesnt shadier thank you very much indeed thank you well dr david bull told me that its no surprise those at the top have the disease but theres still a major problem testing politicians but not medical staff. Think what this shows more than anything is the virus doesnt discriminate you know rich and poor those people empower those people like the rest of us who are normal working people and thats why the government has been really clear about this whole isolation which is as the as the curve started to increase dramatically thats why they imposed those isolation measures and particular that 2 metres distancing but clearly there is a huge concern here youve got the Prime Minister who has it now youve also got the house secretary who also has it but its also worth mentioning that 80 percent of people who have coronavirus will have mild self limiting illnesses the ones that we are really worried about those people who are at high risk but theres also criticism isnt david that theyre getting tested that well the rest of us cant but more particularly also that the n. H. S. The frontline staff cond yeah this is a huge bottleneck now obviously i think it is right the Prime Minister has a test i think is right the house secretary has a test and Prince Charles as well but what we do need to do is to get frontline medical staff tested urgently now i know these tests are being rolled out and these are the and to gen test these are the ones that show if you have an active virus but for me the game changer will be the antibody tests and these are the tests that show whether you have already have the corona virus and that will be a game changer because if you have had it it means that we can liberate you back into the workforce we can start you getting going back to your jobs getting the economy moving but more importantly it means that you can then go and look after elderly relatives it means that we can actually provide Family Support and we simply dont know how many of us have actually had coronavirus and it seems that retrospectively a lot of people may well have had those symptoms and it looks like it may well have been around as early as january now if that is the case we may well have what we call herd immunity which if you remember was the governments original objective that is you need a certain number of people in the population to have had it to develop antibodies and therefore to be immune and that way the infection then tails off. Well meanwhile doctors in Northern Ireland claim theyre being forced to work in special coronaVirus Centers which pose a greater risk than usual to their health 14 centers are being opened in Northern Ireland to keep those with symptoms of the virus away from other patients but g. P. s say a letter from Northern Irelands department of health implies theyre forced to work in them the plan will not protect routine g. P. Services because doctors will be coming and going between practices and covert 900. 00 centers several times a week by forcing us to work in these centers they are exposing us to viral overload there is much greater risk of death not just for us but for our families. When it comes of the number of those confirmed with the virus in Northern Ireland reaches 241 with 10 people having done it however the British Medical Association say the centers are in line with w. H. O. Guidelines and that shifts at the centers are voluntary when Northern Irish dr andrew couples tell me medical staff were willing to work but that this order had been handled badly. Northern ireland is somewhat behind the curve yes but as far as i can see our testing capabilities are very much less than theyre probably part of the rest u. K. And the provision of protection there has been slower and more. Other places in the world i would just point is that only a couple 1000 tests have been done. Probably reflects the new numbers that we have so far apocryphally speaking to people on the phone there is a greater degree of its actually like there are there was a kind of 4 of the positive tests for example absolutely stunning for 2 weeks at the moment because we cant test if one might only say we do anticipate this problem being resolved say on and how do you think the government has responded to the situation i have a new toy there are many people working long hours to put these things into p. S. And. With a limited supply i know that there are technicians there are monitors are getting an argument every configures im getting test gets orders. Were just watching and waiting and theres a certain line of helplessness which goes along with not generates a lot of anxiety amongst medical so we would like answers i think all of us would like answers. And i dont think anybody has no answers a response to they want to specifically i mean do you feel that doctors are being strong armed into having to walk. Its. I think its our duty as doctors to do this work and not everybody likes being told what to do thats the nature of the general practitioners because were not strictly employed by the Health Service we have a certain level of autonomy over the work that we do and some people have objected to the tone of their communications that have gone as i said theres a tremendous good well amongst base to do this work. And i think people will do it but i think people are expressing their anxieties and concerns lightly and vocally and those need to be listened to and her but i hope that we will still say well meanwhile last night the British Public came together to give the n. H. S. Staff a big round of applause for all that hard work during the crisis these included the chick and duchess of cambridge as 3 young children. Thats. Coming up after the break. Some of the countrys top Business Leaders including Celebrity Chefs are criticised for sacking staff despite the government bailout. And the public are encouraged to report their neighbors to the police for Holding Mass Gatherings that show day we hear from both sides of the debate. Join me every thursday on the Alex Sullivan show and ill be speaking to guest of the world the politics sports business im show business ill see you then. Is your media a reflection of reality. In the world transformed. What will make you feel safer. Isolation for community. Are you going the right way or are you being led so why. What is true. Is. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the debt. Or remain in the shallows. Come back the United States is now at the center of the covert 19 pandemic with the largest number of cases globally almost 86000 americans have tested positive for the virus and moles and 1300 have died new york city has been by far the worst hit with nearly 40000 cases which is about half the National Total and 466 people have died in new york state yesterday there was a 40 percent surge in hospital admissions according to Governor Andrew Cuomo and theres a severe shortage of hospital beds and ventilators r. T. Americas Trinity Chavez reports from new york. Today hospitals in new york struggling under the weight of the pandemic people come in they get into bed it they die the cycle repeats elmhurst hospital in queens the bureau with the most coronavirus cases in the city in the center of the outbreak the hospital confirming at least 13 patient deaths within 24 hours right now its every day its nonstop literally and. Unfortunately its my get to suggestion you have to pick and choose what youre going to do are you going to do. As the doctor say a lot of people cause you not to be survive to expire and you put the same machine in the not the 1st one as medical staff operates out their limit hundreds of more people wait lining up outside to get tested for kovan 19 but Officials Say the 545 bed hospital is overrun and in desperate need of medical supplies you know the systems overwhelmed all over the place the shortage of safety gear out one New York Hospital so dire nurses have resorted to wearing trash bags the situation in new york worsening by the hour the state accounting for roughly half the cases across the country this grim video shows teams setting up a makeshift morgue outside of Bellevue Hospital something that was done during Hurricane Sandy and 911911 was nothing compared to this we were open waiting for patients to kabul never came. Ok now they just keep coming however a small sign of hope Governor Cuomo announcing that for the past few days the rate of hospitalizations is slowing although he cautions that the peak of the crisis could still be about 20 days away the governor as that while only about 15 percent of cases have required hospitalisation the state into supports 140000 people will need to be hospitalized warning that he does not have enough beds or lifesaving ventilators and as medical personnel remain on the front lines we are learning that a member of mt sinai is nursing staff who has been treating coronavirus patients. Has passed away from co the 19 the hospital saying in a Statement Today we lost another hero a compassionate colleague friend and selfless caregiver meantime the Hospital System initiating a procedure called plasmapheresis where they transfer antibodies from patients who have recovered from cold the 19 to those who are critically ill from the virus the procedure could be life saving reporting in new york Trinity Chavez r. T. Critics have hit out at Celebrity Chefs for sacking their stuff at their restaurants despite government pledges to bail out the hospitality sector employees or restaurants i am by Gordon Ramsay were informed by contracts being terminated and were immediately placed on gardening leave from the beginning of this week in an Instagram Post the kitchen nightmares star told his staff to continue to support everyone through this terribly challenging time brahmss decision comes in spite of the chance theres a furlough Payment Scheme where the government agrees to pay 80 percent of work a salary is to encourage businesses to retain stuff. While celebrity chef rick stein followed suit and temporarily laid off Staff Members at his country wine chain of seafood restaurants stein who owns the restaurants with his exwife jill told workers they wouldnt be paid for over a month or until the governments furlough package is expected to pay out in april or despite the layoff stein whos worth an estimated 50000000. 00 pounds sank his former Staff Members in a social media post. Im not feeling great about having had to shop all the restaurants to be honest not feeling great about it all i think the worst thing really is our stock of this good a lot to think of all restaurants being lost well over machines and i would like to take this opportunity to thank you a star particularly for their hard work over the last few weeks but now theyre going to be despondent and thats the great but what i do think is this corona virus is so serious the government is doing the right thing i really think well be back. Well this comes after pub chain wetherspoons faced a public backlash after owner tim martin told his staff he couldnt afford to carry on paying them one of his london pubs was recently vandalized and sprayed with coffee tea calling on the owner to pay his workers martin has faced widespread criticism after he told his former Staff Members to go to work at tesco supermarket weathersby and say their actions were responsible and that currently working out the details of the government for those in. The u. K. Police have powers to fine and even arrest those who want to bring the current lot done r. T. Casar i looks at whos following the new laws and who isnt. Now the u. K. s passed new legislation to give police more powers with which to enforce the corona virus lot the police will also have more powers to make groups disperse and go home as well as ensuring parents do all they can to make children stay indoors those ignoring the rules can be hit with a 60 pounds fine reduced to 30 pounds if paid within 14 days a 2nd offense carries 120 pounds find a nonpayment could result in a Court Appearance and a potentially unlimited fine if people still refuse to comply the police can arrest them. One of the conditions to be allowed to go out. People can go out in order to have an exercise once a day. And ironically hes probably seen this park busier than ever. As a game behind me. The parks full of people going for a walk just before sundown. Its almost like. This. Crisis Coronavirus Crisis is. Affecting that people are actually maybe socialising more going for walks that they wouldnt need to and getting more in touch with nature. In ways that they wouldnt normally. Outdoor exercise machines. Suicide can knock off and they have police and police tape all over them and police are not cross. Has been a lot of crime taking place here. Or the police have been busy keeping people away or even if people are in the park theyre not using the machines to play grounds to slide swings and so forth to the extent people are keeping to the rules of the lockdown just. To put him on camera how hard he finally gets in force in the city. And upset people. That is a big part hands off for the most part the not being part of. Your party. To do what you. Want to do in abroad to drive the way we want to say and find the people to join the fun of it let me this is rush hour streets im so done with. Hopefully things go. Well that sounds new Police Checkpoints are installed where officers can stop motorists to check if their journey is genuinely essential some forces are accused of being overzealous targeting members of the public trying to exercise a walk their dogs which is currently not restricted by the government or meanwhile after a spate of attacks on emergency workers by the public the Crown Prosecution Service has reiterated that such offenses could result in 2 years in jail while Police Officers also have the power to arrest those claiming to have coronavirus and coughing at key word thats as the chief constable of mercer side says people shouldnt be afraid to report their neighbors if they see large gatherings taking place we would expect people to call as they would urge them to be sensible when youve got 2 or 3 people stood at the end of the road we dont need to be told the great thing is we police by consent staff but been instructed to encourage people convince people interact with people the use of the powers will be very much a last resort so should you report any Mass Gatherings well to discuss those im now joined by the former Home Office Minister norman baker and for about metropolitan Police Superintendent leroy logan gentlemen thank you very much indeed for joining me i know what if i could start with you can reporting your neighbors really change their behavior. I think hero charges a person to change behavior by just talking to them and indeed Police Response as you just heard the superintendent i think there was more to council was to try to persuade people in us of our way forward in a civilised society which we have to place her strength to go on to do and should not be called in for any potential mystery of that nature most most of the activists from neighbors say 3 to themselves to their name to their neighbors what is it youre doing and that kind of appearances are far more effective and i want on a Traffic Accident calling the police are saying opportunity in day they write what do you think one of the everyone has a civic duty to safeguard the Community Just like someone will report 3 or robbery then i think its important that people should be able to speak up and say listen people contravening the legislation thats this thats being put out before you call the police but he says theyre not the police should be called and date unknown what if you have the kind of neighbor that doesnt want to listen and you risk so if you want to dispute between a best people to get ahead well for the 1st probably turn i mean theres a good side to you want the police have uses our cars i think you should because our powers clearly if youve got people who will pay your attention and behave irresponsibly theyre not out of your basto some of the time to go past the police now is right where the police are especially over 100 things to do and they must not be overzealous i dont i know you have all these checks of people trying to cause you know someones in the room car owner on drugs somewhere to me that is our danger to the public and those who want to push for stopping and so we want to do do this proportionately and id say that it could be i think from overzealousness applied here in daytime a what do you think that being i possess do you think that these new police at these but new Police Powers are only and. No not obviously strong because someone said that you could only take on in how they actually roll them out so what ive been hearing theyre going by the fortys d they engaging theyre d explaining to the person they think courage and to go home or to stop that activity before they think about enforcement and i think theyll only take action if someone playing russian roulette with this safety or that the safety and the what the community and they know what do you think about naming and shaming and we have social media they state you think thats an option as well i think is a very dangerous road to go to are under all that often under the sound of somebody who is a pediatrician not very far from here who was named on thanks for coming to was appearing on peter foxs who apparently i didnt understand the difference so we prefer to to use our particular method of things that are completely out of hand who are trying to this sort of situation to try to make sure were right as normally as possible is not always situation the next time in 10 hours is about a possible but one of the answers to this whole situation and things kind of matter previous part of your program is to have much more the testing of all the Companies Got a lot of whites are far to say no testing right we can make sure we know who has got the virus and who on point us have it and i dont thats a teacher im not saying im going to the problems only go if they really were lets all side look at how things are now and how they could also develop i mean especially good natured at the moment isnt it but when people start running out of money for food which they could well day given the time scale of the government bailouts could we be seeing riots in the future. What you cant discount the possibility because you know unfortunately people get restless if theyve been looked down and they see it as a form of but you know people should see this as a positive aspect you know whether its spot checks with police because that theyre to prevent people d from playing russian roulette without health and obviously the Health Service in more efficient so you know thats the last resort as ive already said but update everything everyone recognizes this is for our survival and the survival next generation this is just like the threat of terrorism you know and thats what check for terrorism no one complains this is on a similar vein because weve seen whats happened in italy and in spain and of course in china and we cant afford that to happen and the 3 need to be strong hand it it needs a if i want it nor the other stuff starts up and softly approach then enforcement needs to be brought in well no one ever talked about the the next generation i mean telling parents to control like kids thats not when you get to work is it. I know you may not get to know me yet but. As a father myself i have and i can testify our children or do were told her the truth however i think as usual parents undermine society generally to try to ensure tourism whats going on to be sure not part of the solution or part of the problem and my sisters and the younger generations as a car console found some of the responses on your generation you know i noticed your mother part time or another car comes through the streets of ours are to does her are intensely distanced from true from the from top to the chances are you take her residence and i am going to be responsible for the meantime is exactly what we want to have a fight we have to leave it that i know the bank that labor and i get thank you very much for joining us. Well thats all for this hour have more and half an hour. You know when im going to be out there seeing i dont think about it at all many grown men not near dark or. 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