Joins me from here in los angeles i want to want to hear what it what are you saying york times strikes you as a koran the koran a virus doubter what are you doubting right and im not doubting anything that im doubting that New York Times got its facts correct because from the beginning what ive been saying is dont let the press panic you the New York Times for instance has been continuing to put the Imperial College of london doomsday scenarios on our front page until well into last week when as a result of what ive been advocating follow dr pao to the advice of all the c. D. C. s advice we will be fine it will be nothing like the doomsday scenarios that theyre painting. Now we are doing what we need to do we are following dr found shape and those ridiculous estimates are being proven to be wrong and based on false assumptions so i was just saying look the panic is going to be worse than the condition and now youve got the president saying something similar the treatment could be worse than the disease again i was just trying to get people to Pay Attention to the risk reward analysis of course well take care of this of course you listen to the c. D. C. And of course you listen to dr foushee but we dont have to have a press making us haneke you think the president over and over doing what true what are they over doing well its like i said that there was that one if the logic study that came out of the Imperial College of london which predicted you know it was a doomsday prediction and that was on the front page of newspapers that was on the lips of every cable News Reporter and it was based on faulty assumptions it was based on us doing nothing in response to this virus which of course was not going to be how we would respond and yet people kept pushing that as a narrative of what we what is necessarily going to happen now nothing like that has happened we have taken aggressive actions we are you know the world is responding very diligently to this and i again and for instance say you know what is the press doing calling me a corona denier for saying listen to the c. D. C. Listen to dr found you dont listen to newspapers that idea how could that possibly be denying anything other than listen to the professionals that know how to do this and how to protect us so are you comfortable being placed in the category as sean hannity the eminent scientist or Jerry Falwell jr or Cheryl Adkins and i you comfortable in that company. No no thats a thats a hit piece they theyve put they they went after me for and by the way many many other factual inaccuracies in that article i actually we actually in writing addressed this to the New York Times and their reporter had the temerity to write back yes i saw him repeatedly say dr foushee is his north star that you should watch dr fouts you do is that and extend and follow every letter of his instructions but i heard right wing news media Say Something different about what he has said therefore so because other media distorted what i said they felt if there is justified reporting the distortion its beyond belief its beyond belief but anyway you know i dont but my point i dont care so so they attack me what i care about of the of the American People are able to get through this incredible stress test in a systematic way safely save lives and dont turn lives upside down were already starting to see the Mental Health consequences of whats been happening here depression is a big panic is that big diet is up and completely irresponsible disregard for the impact of the panic i drew in slane i mean what we should be concerned about look at this problem and tell me what is the logical concern for the average citizen. The concern is if you are in a risk category you should not get exposed under any circumstances that is the main concern right is that people who are at risk of complications of this you should be very carefully quarantined the other concern we should have is a keeping a very careful eye on medical technologies and medical response to this outbreak as they develop for instance there is really very very encouraging news coming out about hydroxy chloroquine that this may this may be able to knock down the fatality rate and hospitalization rate of this virus to the point where it will be essentially identical or like influenza which would be a great triumph and that could be next week so Pay Attention that well see if thats a reality or not we need more data on that in the meantime everybody should be following what dr fouty says and what the c. D. C. Recommendations are to the letter now some states are advocating more self lock downs this sort of shelter in place which is again a panic inducing targets Children Place was a was a term are reserved for active shooters where youre supposed to barricade yourself in a room i wish they were just a corner yourself that that offer stay at home and some states are requiring that and thats what weve all collectively decided to do so we are a following the c. D. C. Recommendations and we are be be good collective citizens and following the directives of our leaders and were going to get through this but the people that are actual and washing hands and all those good things we need to be paying careful attention to but the people that are at the real risk to the 65 and above and the people with underlying medical conditions thats a group that needs to be very cautious what do you make of President Trump saying well be ok easter sunday. Or not to be ok but i think i think it is his job to be sort of cheerleader in chief and in chief and to give us some optimism i sure like to know im getting depressed myself im having a little bit of depression being self quarantined and not being able to understand how i can plan my future i do major depressive episode when i was 19 ive been up 50 percent probability of a relapse this is just the kind of thing that could cause a relapse of that so him saying that we will be ok were not going to be ok but regions of the country dr fouty said this very clearly we are going to start looking at local epidemiology it doesnt make any sense anymore to talk about a National Epidemiology new york is very different than shreveport very and new york is in trouble right now and will be for a couple weeks probably in the meantime by the end of that time there could be other reasons that the country that are well in hand could deploy technologies and testing and really control things carefully and be well able to safely return to work so its not its not as though were all going to the switch is going to get thrown a were all going to work all at once its going to be a regional sort of rollout i suspect what does dr drew pinsky fear. I fear well right now here heres the thing let me put it this way. When ever people measure the u. S. Health care system against other countries they never take into account things like this circumstances like this and i know hospitals i know Hospital Ministry as i know my peers we know how to get it done we will respond to this thing we can flex we can innovate nobody does better than us in a circumstance like this we will rise up and we will get this thing and youll see how effective our Healthcare System is and at getting this thing under under control fast my fear is that the hydroxy chloroquine wont be as effective as we think it will be if it does affective as it looks like it is anecdotally were going to be in good shape next week by the time we start really deploying this thing beyond that and my fear is that this thing goes on too long and you have not just collapse of lives and businesses but civil unrest you could you could you could create a situation like that im telling you people are like cats on a hot tin roof and it needs to be attended to this is not a simple matter and its not just a matter of turning people off or turning them on again this is this is a complex emotional situation and needs to be paid attention to. And recent remarks on your web program you said sick people should stay at home but that everyone else go about their business everyone not most people arent sick you want everyone to go out in the streets open up the store i shop go to what you want to leave life normally unless his sick. Wrong i said that when the recommendations by the c. D. C. Remember larry i am saying follow the c. D. C. s recommendations which are now dont work stay home if you can at that time which was a week ago or 10 days ago there was social distancing no one necessary travel sick people stay home no crowds i think even at that point we were limited to maybe 50 people maybe it was 10 or drop to 10 the next day i was simply stating the c. D. C. Recommendations when they changed i advocated for the new recommendations and when my state determined to go beyond that thats where we should all cooperate with our leaders ive never ever said anything other than that i. Get caught up in being called a denier. That lariat have you ever been the object of reporting in print and it was so far from reality it just blew your mind well thats what weve got going on here and thats not the only thing i dont want to get at the details they reported several things that were actually factually grotesquely inaccurate they did not call me they did not check any of their sources they did not do anything except report and an opinion hit base and you know you if you do you never you never learn how far off the mark is red is until youre the object of their stories and you see how far they go from the truth theres a theres something called gelman amnesia a famous physicist named dr gellman we used to read the paper and when he noticed whenever there was a report on physics he would just sit and go this is so wrong theyre so inaccurate theyre so far from the truth and then hed go on to read the paper and assume that the rest of the stories were accurate well now we call that gelman amnesia theyre as inaccurate in almost every area of their reporting but you never experience it more vividly than when you are the object. Dr pinsky stay right with us will be back with some more moments with dr drew pinsky on this edition of politicking. Terrorists long russian airlines. Im a journalist its all i know being a truth teller people say i make a man come from good uses like a jackhammer good drill down and think find the truth. Because its time to do news again and question more. Better if long russian airlines. Know what i mean maybe that theyre seeing on the can the last act on many innocent grown men not me and our power as a kind of war on that basic on course if not the now i think its higher than our. Members of the africa mafias conways them safe and quick passage to europe but once they. Leave they are enslaved the country each util. Will not some of them leave be a mom and i couldnt you know if this unit can get it out of me. From the cinquera mainly out of the the soul of the. Leave it all on court of the united. Because the persona that i cant even use coubertin woman land. 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I dont know that i can make a general Statement Like that its a risk reward analysis right and if we cause a total collapse of society and theres violence in the street weve done something wrong we have made with a treatment that becomes worse than the disease to induce a certain amount of panic to motivate i can tell you the last time i was using dr fouty as my nurse northstar was during the aids epidemic and at that time he was very outspoken about the potential risk saying there were millions of people that were going to die of aids in this country and as a red its what motivated me to go on the radio it was his rhetoric that motivated me to go on the radio in 19841903 actually was to talk to young people about the risk great hiv and aids thats what motivated me and we were predicting millions of dead at that time and we ended up with about 175000 and we congratulated ourselves for inducing enough discomfort and particularly young people to have motivated a change in their behavior now when you talk to those people who are in high school and high college in the ninetys today they will tell you that it wasnt such a great impact emotionally on them but ok it certainly kept them safe did we have to be that shrill that we have to be that aggressive its this is the again that risk reward analysis that were talking about larry. Drew when you right now the better off in your own thinking if you stayed at home everybody stay at home would you be jordan or off of course. Of course yes we better up that here here though this is something ive been saying all along larry this is the more difficult piece so as we record this thing as we sit here you and i are in Southern California in the counties of riverside or nj los angeles and San Bernardino for major counties with about 30000000 people and lets say 20000000 just for the sake of discussion 20000000 people we have now 800 cases in the area 800 not 8000000 900800 lets assume does another if you want to put a factor of 5 or even 10 on there out there that we havent detected x. Were not doing enough testing thats still 8000 people in a county of 20 or 30000000 so were doing good by staying at home were having the desired effect were not going to get the doomsday blossoms that has been predicted we should be patting ourselves on the back for how efficacious this has been and more people will get sick it will spread but it will not the way were rolling the way were behaving it will not overwhelm the Health Care System by any means the tougher pot is how do we go back to work how do we monitor the positive cases how do we get enough testing and that we can maybe use technologies or monitoring or whatever weve got to allow some people to go back to work people not at risk categories for instance thats going to be a much more difficult phenomenon that nearly shutting everything down how do you do that without creating another outbreak and i trust the people at the c. D. C. And other Public Health organizations to help us learn how to do that in a way that works and their lawyers they dont have to signal an all clear. Well talk to an all clear its going to be its going to be you know in this region you know heres what to watch out for here is where to avoid and people of this age group doing this kind of work can trigger can see can go back and i and then heres the part i dont know what kind of monitoring are they going to do to see if that works without causing a problem again this is the hard part we were not doing even effective testing yet with everyone at home how we going to do when everyones moving around what are we going to test and you know were going to try to document herd immunity is because theres an Antibody Test out there thats only a 15 minute turnaround we can detect whether somebody is had it and were going to require people to take that before they go out to the world i dont but this is all this is the tough part of how we how we how we get everyone back out there. Dr thank you so much for joining us and for clearing all this up thanks i appreciate the questions and you stay well quarantined for the time being we now welcome to politicking one of the greatest athletes have been produced in this country carl lewis who only one i know limping goals and won silver has won a World Championship medals all over the world and what did he call on him because of this postponing of the olympics for now the call what did you make of that. But 1st of all thank you for barry. Im actually pretty pleased away think this is a unprecedented time in our world i think that we have to focus on whats best individual in the appalachian the people and their safety and health but what i liked about it is is how the federation the after each they all had a voice and i think its something that their piece with as many people may remember i was in the 1980 olympics boycotted. Russia in moscow and we have no voice and there was nothing that we had that would say about it so it was very frustrating so i think this process has gone well i really think that we have to applaud japan it is a mash of undertake change against we all of that country the torch going here and im happy that were able to keep the games and not cancel do you think it should be postponed now for 4 years. And there is no i think i think taking it one year is the right decision because you post winter for years basically canceling it and i think thats thats a difficult thing to do probably be to book their entire lives and many of them may have one more shot maybe d one or 2 years left so i think this to write since the debate said we still have the other lympics toilets what is it like calling for an absolutely to shut down. Well larry thats a great question because you know d. So i have after saturday college but also we had a between rebel help post staff we had about 15 asks that were preparing for the olympics so were trying to figure that out because we dont want to go into aussies because that case were going to have a long. Actual were actually putting together what we need to do right. And now were going to find out its kind of a little bit of a guessing game but i think sure were going to do. Because you said that this time for an ab leave is like being in a Twilight Zone where you mean. Well actually its a bizarre place to be when the day of the art of the show and i was a little kid and we just dont know what tomorrow just. As a coach as of tomorrow me last week my entire schedule for the year were just the 1st time ive had in 40 years ive had a spring where to do so on the m p 3 the same thing there are years were planned they were going to do so now you say stay home and we have no idea what youre going to do so its its its a bizarre place and its not just everyone and everyone stay home from work ok when youre being laid off or you go back all the challenges that people gotta deal with you know what we go through is just kind of all part of what the bash. And then in sports many of the professional athletes there are expect to get paid to see whether or not going to have competition if they continue to compete or do they move on things are a lot of questions that are need to be answered and i think a lot of the athletes have just so such not just competition last but like ones would you would use a hall the n. B. A. And the National Hockey league for this year has way to make sure its not over in baseball or what he what would you do. Well i tell you its hard for me to talk about our discourse because i know what i would but but i think that the m. B. A. Reachin power was so strong that it really ticks all of us saw and i think they were very responsible in the way they are trying to be at the end its going to be a challenge for them to get back its very frustrating for them as well because shes there but whats going to happen chickenshits teams change in the offseason so i think they have just as much bigger challenges in what else does right now i mean theyre even more uncertain because they asked people what trump. How come does it affect you personally are you coaching any olympians or little big hopefuls. Yeah well it is affect me actually pretty ceramic because if you look at the way our season as a college has ended last week our professional season ended just yesterday and now all of my appearances are doing. All these things i do normally all on hold so i should be exciting place to go try to do that here its all unfold so it hits me pretty hard financially a schedule wise and also the frustration of the athletes but i look at the challenge that i have as nothing compared to the vast majority of people that are being laid off or these jobs. So so pretty nothing for me out i can do something to help support the other people that really have challenged it outside of sports youre in euston was a situation there thank you very much im saying it we too are great he talked. 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