Information that came out from that we saw that peoples interest in it went down a lot and its just interesting at this point were going into the next election cycle where headfirst into it right now weve already started the early state primaries we just had a debate were right back where we were 4 years ago and its interesting this all came kind of from like you know julius lawyer representative and a lot of saying hey look you know that at one point he was offered a pardon you know and then that kind of got twisted in the translation into this whole big thing that like oh heres trump stepping forward to try to offer julian a pardon of this when it wasnt really the case plus when you look at the timeline the timeline doesnt even match up in terms of what if that would make sense because rohrbacher said he had a 3 hour meeting at the Ecuadorian Embassy back in august of 2017 julians on record going on i think it was. A fox news show at the time in january before august saying like russia had nothing to do with these attacks hes always said russia has nothing to these acts so i dont. Really understand how youre going to dangle a pardon in front of him was something that hes already publicly come out and said no learning anything and i dont think that there was a carrot there yeah when youve already made several public statements it was it wasnt secret whatsoever but i also feel like that the bigger issue here for me is weve got a president who has been very retaliatory towards whistleblowers this happens to be a whistleblower that he things to like so its so i think that you know thats something to take into context but i dont think that it goes it is crazy russia best occasion that we need to kick start again all the more that it has anything to do with with this being something that was actually going to be unleashed because of the care that was hung over it but you know its interesting when you say like it because its also those 6 words like right now julian i think theyre theyre theyre hoping that julian dies in prison you know i mean i think thats really its funny because like trump on the campaign trail i love wiki leaks great for wiki leaks the moment he gets in office now hes a traitor Froman Belmarsh know and then you know youve got the cia spying on him you know while hes at the embassy that came out to where the company that was you know basically that of the private company feeding information back to the cia while he was while he was in the Ecuadorian Embassy i mean everything around julian is a mess and its sad absolutely and i also think that the. Public sentiment around the leaks was very different from what the president was initially tweeting in terms of his support and so after he actually assumed office the idea was ok well maybe i need to dial this back because even many people on the right were not supportive of the comments that he made oh not here in washington you know no one likes to leave in washington because you know julian you know spills the dirt in the place to be i mean weve talked about this several times though when youre talking about a lot of military secrets and things like that there are a lot of people who are invested in having those secrets they just that oh yes most definitely most definitely whats interesting too is looking at the roger stone case he gets sentenced this week 3 years 40 months or 40 months altogether i want to read you this do this District Court judge Amy Berman Jackson stated this case could not arise because roger stone was being. Sued by his political enemies it arose because roger stone characteristically injected themselves smack into the middle of one of the most significant issues of the day is the wrong. Thing correct this is roger stone being roger stone hes known to be a shady bunny of sorts hes been doing this for years and its finally caught up with him in a way because President Trump did a lot to ensure that roger stone didnt get the maximum the maximum amount of time it has actually gotten less than half of the initial the initial amount and you know weve seen all of the all of the arguments and everything and circled around bill barr and the conversations hes had how he tried to dial things back as the trumps trump instigation in this in this process but i do think that theres something to be said about this president deciding that because hes had such a loyal person and roger stone that he was going to ensure that he did not he did not baseball penalties its going to be interesting to see how it goes for them and the judge did kind of say like i didnt know she could have that middle of the road decision on that she didnt give him nothing but she didnt give him everything its going to be interesting to see how that plays forth but you know roger its not surprising and not surprising. Last nights democratic debate in the bottom with filled with everything youd expect from sin city scandal entertainment big personalities and fireworks but thankfully for the democratic president ial candidates what happens in vegas doesnt stay there big money bloomberg looked down on the peasants and in turn Elizabeth Warren skewered him lets take a listen id like to talk about who were running against a billionaire who calls women strapped broads and horse taste lesbians and no im not talking about donald trump im talking about mayor bloomberg democrats where in the debate laid out the battle for the soul of the Democratic Party to be or not to be a socialist that was the question things are clearly heating up for the democrats. Can singers hold on to his lead while biden make a comeback is the bank of bloomberg big enough to overcome his massage any racist comments or sexism will break down the winners and losers shocking moments and where democrats go from here with host of news do you see whos got a male whos welcome scottie i thank you i grow from one show talking about this the other and this time though i have to tell you i actually like the last debate let me be the 1st to say it was more entertaining than i realized i was watching a news channel not bravo because i really did feel like at the end they were going to live like survivor they were going to vote one of them off and throw me into the moat that it looked like was surrounding the entire state as modern elections eventually go to vote one of them off and move forward it was interesting absolutely and there was a lot more tension during last nights debate than weve seen during the rest specifically you know we had a new person on the stage mayor bloomberg everybody 0 was ways to target him in a think that you know his performance was lackluster at best and he definitely didnt show you know strength and preparation either and was thats whats so interesting about this because we all know that he is paying literally millions of dollars highest paid campaign 7 fact if you want to stay at the ritz carlton on a campaign trail when the bloomberg staff is this kind of how it was you would think one of them before having such a great staff would have prepped him for things we knew he was going to be questioned on stop and frisk how youve treated women your own billions of dollars that was going to be right out of the gate when youre talking about a party that is trying to show theyre such ways discrepancies in the country it did not shock me at all that he was not prepared to answer those questions and not know you know why you know you know why because we live in the United States of america we question the super rich the poor the strings and i wanted to both parties we never question them and their motivations they never get held out to dry you know and called into account for what theyve done now bloomberg got this up and there was a big shock to me that he was kind of. Just didnt know what the difference between him and trump is and thats what theyre saying well if trump is able to do it then why cant bloomberg what difference is this truck came into and he was on such a bare bones budget like were talking it was almost butt. That is how much he was not paying his staff or buying Campaign Signs of people making the donations it was his message this sold him bloomberg come in and poured money into it thats the same money can buy loyalty it cant in this case when youre talking about the people but heres what i think the alternate result that we need to figure out from last night Going Forward is who is going to pair of best against donald trump on a stage and if you look at all of the candidates whether you like her messaging or not whether or not she can win Elizabeth Warren i think out of all of them demonstrate is the only one that could demonstrate that she could make donald trump possibly look childish with his attacks even better than Hillary Clinton could i think you look at everybody else you put the 2 months it will be entertaining it will be great well get our popcorn but will it actually be a productive debate from a democrat standpoint in beating donald trump shes probably the only one sadly i think shes the one thats not going to emerge past obviously even South Carolina those going to be a follow up question do you think Elizabeth Warren can sustain because one of the reasons why last night she had to come out guns blazing is because she had fallen so far in the polls fundraising hasnt been what it was previously we saw you know the 1st 2 state primaries didnt necessarily go in her favor she had a lot to prove last night im not so sure that shes going to be able to carry this through you know i think shes going to even in her own debates dont win elections im sorry that gives great sound bites that will follow you for the rest of your life talking about binders and policies from the eightys those sorts of things but what she knew she had to do she had to set herself up for Vice President and i think what she did was very well last night which she said herself for Vice President her versus mike pence will be the most boring debate. As compared to what you know of bernie versus trump debate would look like but you will see if bernie is the nominee he possibly might bring her on and she at this point considers that to be her goal i think she knows that shes not going to make it past a super tuesday at all its going to be interesting to see because one of the things that stood out to me too is at the end of the debate the none of the candidates actually saw the guy with the most only good sort of girl with the most delegates should be the moment which was very telling that like wow every. That stage is going to live bernie and you know getting the most delegates going into that convention might not get the number 1900 that you need its going to be interesting to see if suddenly all those people just turn their backs and say no or well one of them cut the deal one would like war and suddenly say you know what ill give you my delegates lets jump on the ticket together and put it over the top i dont know but they did say that they dont want to make the superdelegates mad if they want that those superdelegates still hold a lot of power and that the last thing they want to do is insult them and say i dont care about you because thats the key to the whole mess is that this is a country based with 2 parties who do not care about you about voters they care about the people who fund them they care about the power of their own party and so in this case if you have a bunch of people up there basically saying ill put the party over the voters any day of the week which scares me but i wonder if Bernie Sanders if you said you know what im done with this i see that it stacked up to me time and time again i star and im going to run on my own if he would actually have a better chance of beating donald trump on his own than he would be with even a somewhat put together democratic machine if you got to be the nominee even right now with all the talk about Bernie Sanders and how well hes performing people ringback judge actually is leading in the delegate count and now there is there is a little light as well and that speaks volumes right there about where he can stand and where hes coming from that just shows how much a farce that i think the d. N. C. Has said this i want to watch and they are pretty. Close which are about a lesson that was like watching 2 people asking for the manager of the middle the i mean it was really just what areas. Do you expect and one that nobody really i dont im not sure that it helped either one of them theyre trying to fight for this moderately and close which are have a small boost after she after you know New Hampshire but beyond that i dont think shes going to come back either and her performance last night was almost as bad as bloomberg but as weve learned this week they both secure themselves very good positioning to be come a political commentator on a news Network Following this so hey at least you have a job the palos it wont just be being a mayor and a senator its got the. Because he was involved in the Intelligence Community and they love them Intelligence Community but the key is also if he is young that is the great thing about him and thats hurting him right now but give him 1020 years i guarantee regarding how this turns out for him this is not the last time we see his name running for a higher federal office and if not president but it might be in 20 years but the rest of the millennium when theyre actually considered will be older scott erebus i thank you as always for coming on always a pleasure scott emails who is of news views whos cool. All right as we go to break cock rogers dont forget to let us know what you think of the topics of cover of our social media be sure to check out watching the hawks the podcast which is now available on spotify apple music everywhere you listen to your favorite or sober progress you can also start watching the hawks on demand to the brand new portable t. V. Which is available on smartphones through google play in the store by searching portable t. V. Be coming up officially the case against jeffrey up steve and his associates is still being investigated but our next guest offered investigative journalist live via believes things are not as they seem to want to miss this state to watch in the. Like. When i was. Going to get my money even if you dont know me yet. What politicians do something. They put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president or injury. Or somehow want to. Have to go right to be cross was like before 3 of them or cant be good. Im interested always in the waters in the college. West sydney. You know being in a church or a kind of good intentions or by the church or go to or in christening and maybe even 40 years ago im afraid of simply evaporate its the notes at the time a pleasurable supply of. So. If. So. Me. Lists lists lists lists lists lists. Lipped lead and very well might continue watching on since last. You know what mame has miraculously disappeared from the headlines in recent months despite the severity of the crime celebrity those involved in the victims desperate need for justice like Jeffrey Epstein of course so what is happening with all things Jeffery Epstein these days not just with the investigation in the epsteins rather convenient suicide but also with the investigation of the crimes that got him into jail in the 1st place well buried in the headlines the british banking regulators are now investigating the american chief executive of barclays just staley in connection with his relationship with disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein oh good buddy Prince Andrew appears to still be trying to duck any responsibility for his deep connections to epstein and according to the New York Times has given 0 cooperation to the investigation and according to a. B. C. News one of epsteins alleged victims whose testimony was central to epsteins 2001000 indictment in new york was known to federal authorities 11 years prior to that indictment but despite all these little snippets we still do not know what is truly happening with the epstein case and the potential prosecution of those involved and that has led longtime investigative journalist and author of the franklin scandal nick bryant to raise some pretty troubling questions brian has even started a change dot org petition seeking justice for epsteins victims he joins us now from new york city thank you for always for coming on nick. Its great to be with you tara now about a long history investigating the epstein case and other cases like it was the hottest story but now that he is dead it seems does it seem like things have slowed down i mean in your view where does the case stand today. I look at i have seen as as a 3 act play the 1st act was him flying around with underage girl. Earles pandering them to is rich and powerful bodies and basically doing it with impunity the 2nd act was what led to his incarceration and ultimate death now the 3rd act we have yet to begin the 3rd act and the 3rd act is our department of justice seeking. Justice for the victims of jeffrey abstain no one has been indicted i mean the New York Times and august of 2100 named 6 hears in the epstein case and none of them have been indicted and if this was a natural investigation the search for tears would be indicted on multiple charges of child trafficking which carries pretty heavy duty sentences and then theyd be looking at 2 or 300 years and then they roll over on the perps thats how a criminal investigation like that would go but these procures are just running around loose as a goose. And we have no idea where they are this is kind of like if. John gotti. Had 6 associates and the New York Times named john gotti these 6 associates and how they fit into his criminal enterprise and the New York Times said it and the Justice Department didnt react to it so thats the situation we have right now is the department of justice is saying that its carrying on an investigation but from everything that ive seen that is a lie wow well nick remind us again about who is to play maxwell and how he puts into that cave and do we believe we will filthy her potentially tarred and prosecuted what shes been accused of. Well the thing about doing mesereau is she was. Its hard to know a partner of jeffrey abstain she was fond of molesting the young girls and also child pornography just like jeffery abstain was and she played a very instrumental role in actually grooming young girls to be abused by jeffrey abstain and also transporting them around the country to be pandered to epsteins rich and powerful friends theres that famous picture of her standing next to Prince Andrew and Prince Andrew. Next to a victim and going natural has not been charged with anything and it to me thats thats kind of mind boggling and we say we dont know or it said that we dont know where she is an vast crowd of that thats completely ridiculous because someone like Glenn Maxwell is she lives high on the hog i mean she spends a lot of money her financial footprints are all over and the f. B. I. If the f. B. I. Wanted to find Glenn Maxwell tomorrow they could find her im im convinced of that it really does nick youve covered you know these cases before obviously the franklin scandal which is a you know very big case are you seeing those same similarities here in the 3rd act as you mentioned we talked about this being the 3rd act of the upstream case are you seeing the same kind of similarities the happen with the 3rd act of the franklin scandal now rearing thats kind of same had with epstein. Well the franklin scandal the 3rd act of the franklin scandal was making sure that the victims didnt talk and and that was the 3rd act and that was a sealed cover up but with the epstein situation we know who the perpetrators are we know that abstain i mean epstein is a its been proven that hes a child trafficker. He was he pled guilty to it and in 2008 he was. Indicted on multiple accounts of child trafficking last year and theres been like 35. 00 civil suits that have been settled about him molesting minors so we know that jeffrey abstain is a super predator and and thats whats really troubling to me is that this is going nowhere but there is one major similarity between jeffrey obscene and the franklin scandal the book that i wrote william barr was you turny john. Under bush the elder and he covered up the franklin child Trafficking Network that i wrote about and now hes the attorney general under donald trump and hes covering up the epstein Trafficking Network so i just cant ive been very vocal and i started this petition because i just cant sit idly by as rewarding him by or commits a 2nd you know an atrocity to American Children no one no to cross into the american Justice System is really what it what it is because you know when you you when you have anyone you know when you have the Justice System going after these people thats what really breaks our right and also it at least is Something Else that shows that there really isnt anything any recourse for the victims for anything but you know setting that type of stage in that example is really hurtful. There is always something about it is you know im sorry but it is risky if you if our department of justice shows indifference so these victims i mean what chance do they have where chance to theres any victim have if the department of justice is going to look the other way if the department of justice is going to let these perpetrators off scot free that only empowers other perpetrators so we have to draw a line in the sand here and the Justice Department should not and cannot be allowed to cover up jeffrey ive seen straffing network and all the perps that were involved in jeffrey have since Trafficking Network absolutely and theres always a lot of false leads band information uninformed conjecture what do you think are they can twist the truth in cases like these what do you believe is the biggest untruth being told about that and think so far. Well as i said the biggest truth is that theres an investigation going on because if there was a natural investigation going on the preachers would be indicted and theyd be rolling over on the perves so that is the big lie right now that there is an investigation going on and that. Is the one that the department of justice in africa are using right now and if like i said if there was a natural investigation going on multiple people would be indicted at this point. Nic i got to say thank you as always for the great work that you do in the Investigative Journalism that you cover its always its always important to have you want to thank you for being our audience today always a pleasure sir. Thank you very much deborah. We will probably never reach a point when exploration of the cosmos and theres still much unexplained and much more to come thankfully for us astronomers are always on the case and some of their latest findings might surprise you oxygen has been detected outside of the milky way for the 1st time astronomers that shanghai observatory make this groundbreaking discovery using radio telescopes in spain and france the oxygen with uncovered in a korean 231 a highly volatile galaxy that we dont know much about located 561000000 light years away from the earth this is big news because of the current to 30 once oxygen is 100 times higher than the element in our own galaxy wow wow thats cool i mean its like we could technically get oxygen from the galaxy if we travel to other. Possibility i dont know we might need a lot more oxygen but i would probably a little bit but thats cool thats cool 1st time ever we see the oxygen outside of our own solar system search for life continues out there in the great vast emptiness of space all right everybody that is our show for today remember in this world were told that would love to tell you all i love you i am tired rover and im a mess across keep watching all those hawks out there and have a great day and night everybody. President ial candidates debate the future of the u. S. And the world. Every week. Student. Money. I 1st heard about wiki leaks. From the helicopter footage in iraq. I think it down to the people who remain in the u. S. Military who have never forgiven him for it this guys a traitor a treasonous and and he has broken every law the United States illegally shoot son of a. Story to have. Independent journalist a guy with his computer to seeing to see who is what crimes and to a global audience. 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