Leaders weve asked people in new york and london for the china or the us is the biggest spy threat. Probably the us probably us anybody having. Hello good evening thanks for joining us here on r. T. Into. Turkeys president says it is only a matter of time until he launches a military operation in the syrian province of idlib and shipped to our now that hes been dissatisfied by talks with russia on the situation. He has made all kinds of preparations to implement its operational plans and it looks as in every operation we see we can come suddenly one night to put it more clearly. It is now a matter of time we will not leave to the regime that still does not understand our countrys determination in this matter and to those who encourage it we never intend to shoulder the burden that the developments of this region to place on our country. The syrian army is currently on an offensive trying to drive armed militants and islamists to the province says that he has failed to separate the moderate opposition from the terrorists busy last rebel standing in syria and home to number a number of militants but it shows a Turkish Military convoy crossing the Syrian Border a large line of tanks Armored Vehicles and supply trucks are reportedly moving towards the outskirts of the refinishing joined me earlier to explain how this sudden escalation and to. The situation on the ground remains very dramatic terrorist activity there is very high and you have to remember its a vast region in syrias north home to up to 3000000 people including civilians and theyre very often used by terrorist as a human shield its clear for everybody that actions are needed urgently to protect these people from the other hand the attacks by turkey backed armed forces based in egypt against the syrian army continue and this also should be stopped and countering that is something what damascus military operation on the ground in basically a ad and its not that mr out of the gun is not happy with how things develop on the ground no one is in fact happy if no one. Is to blame for the situation thats a good question but it depends on who you ask both sides are are blaming each other we hear from russia and its position is quite clear remains the same that Turkish Military operation on the syrian soil its another state you have to remember would be the worst Case Scenario we heard that from president spokesperson earlier on wednesday Dmitry Peskov and russias foreign minister said to go. Also commented on mr gun statement in the similar way. To separate militants from terrorists in the timeframe on the 2018 agreements at the same time provocations from the zone shearling of the Syrian Armed Forces civilian targets and the russian base have continued naturally the Syrian Armed Forces reaffirming their commitment to the original grievance including cease fire agreements respond to such an acceptable provocations and we support them in this what mr lover of is talking about is last year so to agreements that turkey and russia came to this is when both sides were equally happy and satisfied and according to these agreements if turkish responsibility too i repeated again to separate socalled like hard line terrorists and islam is based in and socalled moderate opposition and talk to them and force them believe these area and it hasnt been done properly it hasnt been achieved never its in turkey its turkish responsibility so turkey is failing 1st the russian standpoint how does turkey see the situation while turkey is very clear turkey is accusing mosco and damascus of escalating the situation of. Agreements and this is the turkish president just recently. The Syrian Regime as well as the Russian Forces and iran backed militants acting with an adlib continuously attacking civilians committing massacres and causing bloodshed. And we hear that despite numerous talks that turkish and russian sides have been having in the last days including between foreign and defense minister is so its really interesting why change so dramatically raster a good we can remember that somehow ironically klein sided with. A dramatic shift in ankara washington relations with sanctions lifted with mr pohnpei out as the police say that america is ready to stand by its nato ally and mr trump openly and directly backing at the guns actions in syria at a very good job or say should with president her to watch i respect him we have a very Good Relationship yes i agree hes a tough guy but we have a very Good Relationship to do better with the people but the fact is that hes going to lead he doesnt want people to be killed by the thousands and hundreds of thousands that he called me about that and other reasons but we spoke about it live and were working together on what you mean so here is something new for mr trump for mr the gun america and turkey change they were after rick and its not helping things on the ground. Enough to use a phone hes the political analyst at the world welcome you 1st of all the words of some calling it a threat do you take this seriously and if so how big is the chance that this could escalate. Well when we look at the history of Turkish Foreign policy throughout the syrian conflict and our dawns rhetoric and ensuing military action as a metric for his future actions yes then we have to take what hes saying very seriously because hes been very very transparent and bade him in his actions he said that Operation Euphrates Shield would have been launched in 2016 it was launched 2018 Operation Olive Branch 2001000 operation peace spring and now hes given the end of february deadline for an operation and it would be against the regime so its looking like the present i draw needs to be taking very very seriously when turkey and russia sit down at the table and discuss the future of vigilant. Wouldnt it be an extremely dangerous situation if you would anticipate the the Russian Forces to back the Syrian Forces of assad does not bring them into direct conflict then with. Well as you stated before. Calling it a worst Case Scenario i think there is a scenario thats even worse turkey doing nothing and allowing 2. 00 to 3. 00 more 1000000 migrants inside the turkish borders so there comes a there comes a time where you have to weigh both options both are bad options obviously turkey does not want to escalate but turkey cant allow it to have another 23000000 people inside its borders it cant allow a humanitarian disaster to unfold on its border either now weve seen the turkish president in the russian president reach deals before at the 11th hour when everyone thought hope was lost now the window of opportunity for a diplomatic solution is slowly closing but i still feel there is time where these 2 leaders can get together and still reach a deal thats a win win situation for both russia and turkey but in the case that a diplomatic deal is not reached i do forsee turkey going ahead with this military operation and yes it can cause a dangerous situation amongst allies. What about double trauma saying that hes working with all do you think were seeing a shift of political. Just dangling that as a as a carrot in front of the russians. Frankly i dont see turkey right now really expecting any type of support from the United States it just took all of its military operations without support from the United States so i dont see turkey coming and asking the United States for support at least at this current conjecture. Of the state of affairs and that i still believe that there. The turks are hoping they can reach deal with the russians like i said the window of opportunity hasnt closed but obviously if circumstances change the option to sit down at the table with trump and with washington is open and thats something that turkey may entertain in the future if they feel that there is no other way out. Great to speak to you thanks so much for your time use of my guest political analyst the world. Now some australian pays called on the u. K. Government to stop julian the songes extradition to the United States after they visited the wiki leaks cofounder whos an Australian National in the prison where hes being held ahead of an extradition hearing. Hes beyond belief that someone who is so bright and overnight so bright. Should be rewarded by facing extradition and sitting to counsel these few nudge in one town called computer had. A very crucial. For the show. Very concerned about you use trying to implement one of the jewels christensen says that this on his condition is deteriorating quickly. Spiking this wake with professor nils melzer the un special rapporteur on torture. Who come to the opinion along with a number of medical experts that Julian Assange was exhibiting the symptoms of psychological torture visited Julian Assange. And are going to side theres nothing that i saw or that actually. Discredited what those doctors and what Mils Muliaina said he is exhibiting saw ends of disorientation. He did tell us about being kept in severe isolation and ongoing loss a lot of going to psych technically within belmarsh prison the conditions of the subject to apparently out but when you kept by yourself a 20 to 22 as a die with that minimal human contact youre effectively oss alloted so all of that has led to i guess at the plated state of health for julian a songe and i dont think its fair atoll to extradite an australian citizen. At of one foreign country into another foreign country to face charges for what for reporting on the facts. Well that says doctors around the world of also condemned the u. K. s handling of the case warning that the sons is being subjected to psychological torture behind bars more than 100. 00 medics signed a joint letter urging or thirtys to take action they also called on the Australian Government to intervene to protect its citizen it is the 4th letter from doctors. Meanwhile the Guardian Newspaper has published a feature article on plans to tackle media repression penned by the u. K. Government envoy on press freedom thats among clooney however one key detail was left out through news linked to Julian Assange arguably the most high profile media repression case in the world today clooney proposed to sanction all those who take part in jailing journalists for their work including ministers and prosecutors but nothing was said about the fact that no such action has been prepared over the treatment of the wiki leaks founder article didnt even mention that clooney was actually a songes lawyer in the 2015 swedish extradition proceedings against him and many have been angered by the guardians a mission. Congratulations are in order to the guardians Patrick Wintour whos managed to write a whole article on global media suppression without mentioning the phrase Julian Assange the Foreign Office will no doubt continue to be delighted the u. K. Currently has Julian Assange is locked up at the behest of the us because he exposed war crimes the guardian publishes an article on press freedom failing to mention this unbelievably and unforgivably no mention of julian assigned. Were joined now by john reese who is the organizer of dont they dont extradite a songe Campaign Thanks for your time as i understand you actually visited julian a science in imprisoned what did you make of his condition at the time. Well in many ways i think hes bearing up remarkably well and certainly with remarkable fortitude hes been undergoing a degree of imprisonment and isolation in the Ecuadorian Embassy for years before he was imprisoned in belmarsh in solitary confinement in a very severe forms or actually in the 1st in the 1st period less so now after people campaigned outside the prison his legal team and fellow prisoners having moved into slightly less repressive conditions so i think and he would be lets put this way nor our best doctor that kind of treatment but i find him to be revoked really resilient and focused individual despite all the further been several letters from doctors around the world calling for the entity what they describe the psychological torture of julian is hard to imagine why medical professionals would fabricate Something Like that is it something that you were privy to it would you agree with that assessment psychological torture well ive got a doctor but i think we have to take the word of those who are that sort of you thats been reinforced by the un special rapporteur who who visited julian with medical professionals it ought to they could make their own independent assessment and his report was indeed julie was showing signs of having to go that kind of psychological torture so i think pretty much the jury is in on that question if your own earth obviously you dont want the science to be extradited to the u. S. About how do you rate the chances of that happening and what are your concerns will happen if he does go to the u. S. Well the full extradition hearing is is only beginning next week i think its very likely that we were here any conclusion of that till later in the year and very very possible that no matter what the outcome the decision will be appealed so i think were some way away from judyth reaching the point where he will or will not react to the United States but he certainly shouldnt be extradited to the United States and were he to be extradited he would find himself in a court of a very special current. In the ginia its the socalled best way harsh court where the u. S. State has never lost an espionage case where the jurors are chosen for a population pool 80 percent of whom work for the pentagon the National Security council or the cia so hes going to go from a court in this country where theres no jury to a court in the United States where theres a bad jury so i think the only chance he has of justice is to be set free before hes extradited john thank you thanks for your time i guess the sunshine Race Organizers of the dont extradite assange campaign. So more to come in clued in president ial hopeful Michael Bloomberg set to take the stage for the 1st democratic debate but criticism from rivals they say that hes using his fast personal wealth to effectively. Story after this break. Join me every thursday on the alex simon sure and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you then. While on a trip to brussels the u. S. House of representatives speaker has warned e. U. Allies against our way nancy pelosi insists that the chinese tech giant is a major threat to security and should be barred from developing 5 g. Networks in europe but palosi admitted to mention the far more wide scale and proven Us Global Surveillance Network ily more pin explains. Now that the impeachment debacle is all wrapped up guess whos going to europe in order to promote one of the trumpet ministrations key policies its the speech ripper herself nancy pelosi the speaker of the u. S. House of representatives is urging European Countries to drop plans to use while away as their 5 g. Carrier for the benefit of a few corporations you cannot sell the privacy of the people of your country down the river as i said before its like having the state police write the Chinese State police right in your pocket you see nancy pelosi just cares about your privacy odd that shes one of what Edward Snowden called the gang of 8 key figures that are overseeing surveillance in the United States is far and snowden he did there on the in the in disagreement with you he did violate the law in terms. Of for leasing those documents we dont know i understand. I understand odd timing as well its just been revealed that the cia was the secret owner of a Swiss Company that was offering people encrypt peoples privacy was compromised because the cia had a backdoor what the u. S. Government speculates that china might be doing they have been caught doing themselves while the e. U. Might be more apt to listen to a top democrat then to the donald it seems they still arent buying nancys song and dance her euro 2 were is a flop. Well he will be a continuing problem and will be excluded by the we will sense of such destruction it takes us to see so we decided to ask people what they think of this supposed danger of china spying on them are they more afraid of china spying on them or the American Progress or us and im not so much worried about china im worried about anybody having access to our data to be more. Ready to spy on you didnt the chinese it could come from anywhere in the world probably us. Can you would guess just the us given say the alignment of interests from over the us sorry probably you know what the us is far as im concerned. You cant have donald trump along with them its a common pattern of Human BehaviorSigmund Freud called it projection nothing drives us crazy or thinking that someone else might be doing that naughty thing that we know we are doing ourselves up and r. T. New york. Meanwhile the u. S. State department is once again called only you countries to shun the chinese take john away in favor of 5 g. Quitman by Ericsson Nokia and samsung all of these big. Way usas under 30 you know its the us itself has been spying on the whole world for years not least while way itself you can catch the full interview on t. Dot com here is a pretty. It was interesting the u. S. Government says that they declassified the information so we welcome the opportunity to see what the evidence is but we really have to look at this in the broader context of the ongoing geo political dynamic between the u. S. And china the u. S. Has some major issues with china and right now the u. S. Wants to hurt china so badly that theyre going to hurt america in trying to her way and thats really a shame you look back some years ago when i brought snowden revealed information about the u. S. Program prism and about the 5 Year Campaign of the u. S. Government to spy on operation shop giant where they monitored all while why not work for 5 years and could not find any Improper Communications and in the Prison Program they found that the u. S. Government used for example cisco equipment to spy around the world most recently the Washington Post crypto a. G. D. A Swiss Company that turned out is controlled by the cia so theyve been monitoring encrypted communications of all the countries in the world except for china and russia so the fact is it is important to recognize the role of the equipment vendors and the telecom and mobile operators there is a lawful backdoor by the telecom the mobile operators that is triggered by lawful action by governments such as the u. S. Government or china government we dont have that access we dont control that data. U. S. President ial candidate Michael Bloomberg will sell his media empire if he becomes president head of the latest round of democratic debates being held on wednesday in las vegas. For the 1st time faces rivals have been crying foul over the billionaires spending on campaign ads as they see bloomberg especially more than 400000000. 00 on t. V. Bay doing online ads 10 times more than current policy from the sun does the context on trump spends around 325000000. 00 on his entire 26000. 00 campaign likely going to discuss the disease on bloomberg scum pay with legal analysts and if it did muster libertarian president ial candidates all devoid of political. The co to lily. To come if i could start with you. Says that bloomberg is buying is not a fair comment i do think its a fair comment even if you look at the rules that the d. N. C. Has instituted this is a complete change of what theyve done so far this complete you know this late runners coming into their Campaign Spending 400000000. 00 with perhaps hes spending so much money and so that he can make up for the fact that he doesnt have any real grassroots support but i think it definitely amounts to vote buying its not so problematic that bloomberg a spending money on his own campaign the bigger problem is the d. N. C. What rules is the Democrat NationalCommittee DemocraticNational Committee making with superdelegates and with Everything Else because the way the d. N. C. Seems to be operating is that youre allowed to run for president play if you have the money or if we at least approve of you its not against bloomberg its not its not his fault that hes need to spend this kind of money because thats the way campaigns are the Bloomberg Campaigns views would be massively unpopular with a lot of the Democratic Base and a lot of the American People and by fixating on this sort of minor nonissue i mean in politics you ought to spend as much of your own money as you want to by trying to get people to fixate on this non issue the Bloomberg Campaign is affectively distracting america from the positions that bloomberg holds that are at odds with the majority of both the Democratic Base and the American People this is a very unpopular person with very unpopular opinions according to the Democratic Party base and also the general population hes polling you know i havent seen one poll where hes polling above 5 percent this is really showing the corruption of the d. N. C. What there is nothing illegal about what hes doing but i think really thats part of the larger indictment of the american political system more than anything else as well as the rules of the d. N. C. As has been stated that this is an indictment that was a perfect description of the american political system of course you can look at the. Republican party a lot of republican candidates had a lot of money back in 2016 and yes donald trump spent his own he was not favored to when he was not going to when Hillary Clinton had tons of funding between hollywood between lots and lots of billionaire billionaires so the American People could still vote but that also raises the question when there are lots of different candidates within one party like were seeing with the d. N. C. And i think the American People deserve to see who the candidates are and what their actual viewpoints are and how they stand on things democrats and republicans they control the president ial debates they changed the the commission on president ial debates has changed the debate threshold they do everything they can to keep 3rd parties and independents out of the debates and you can see this in the way that they mistreat any candidate that opposes a massive military overage so theyve shut out sanders gathered all the 3rd Party Candidates to oppose it the United States is definitely an oligarchy and i think that most of the people of the United States know this a lot of these people who voted for obama and theyre voting for trump but both of these people received plenty of money from fossil fuel companies from Banking Institutions from Financial Institutions from all these different entities but in a true oligarchy not much has been done about it because a bunch of other today thanks for staying with international dont forget you can check out more news stories from today if you had to a website on the dot com. I 1st heard about wiki leaks. From the helicopter folks here in iraq. I think it down to the people who knew the u. S. Military who have never forgiven. This guys a traitor and treasonous and he has broken every law the United States illegally shoot son of a. Story to have. Independent journalist a guy with his puter exposing you is a lot of crimes and to a global audience. The idea of developing an anonymous box and applying it to a Media Organization is what he makes that was the 1st. I didnt the toy anticipate that he would be for a short while world find. One of the worlds most powerful news organizations. Founder Julian Assange in a subtle tongue and there was a great deal of jealous in the mainstream towards particular why wont he be more like that you seem. Sneering feces on the walls. We have julia in solitary confinement in the prison for terrorists a way to keep the house alive in person the person. I dont see. Them. And i think thats what hes facing. If you live. 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