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The outcomes of the mission of this it is consensus and all and laws weighed in that nationality or about of buffalos have signed on the outcomes of all of this that i know of and they have to be committed to that and they have to blag the era. And the editor and is. In there going to the club this is the problem. Then. This is i think that is all it. That we dont like or. Political but it was president how do you appointed you you dont agree with him now on the use of drone strikes which president hadi does in fact even the saudis tokio mamak the run the Arab Coalition in london last week he said there have to be investigations into saudi war crimes is hardly the problem is it time now for the United Nations to abandon putting hardie back in power in yemen they cannot accuse the had the now now we have many she asked and we have to get the government which it will do as a the interest only community when we have tools we have to all stand and not to have brought out the end not. Of course but anyway if we want to choose we will to us that cause this bears on. And lot is on closer to sharon yeah but that of the many she has against that all in and out of the lot this is the problem here. And we accept it had the ante and we have now better election. I think we. Are going to try and dont undercut the situation and. Then their new election may be the end of that he said that theyre pretty to see and elaborate in but i want to know if no one is going to vote no one is going to vote for hardy in a yemeni general election given how he was in saudi arabia the country that is bombing yemen. Yes how they asked are they out of it to support the head here tool restored by what i had to go back to. That i began to see. But anyway it dixon all of that i declare its taken 5 years and and so many people that we have have been killed what it what have you made of the trumpet ministration which says and it gave 7 146000000. 00 in aid just in 2019 its saying were not going to give any more aid because some of it goes to hooty communities poor hoody communities britain as well if its saying no more aid maybe its given hundreds of millions of pounds of aid what do you make of the United States and britain saying no more aid to yemen. Really this news it is shocking because now were men in very bad need for assistance for what it is for on their mission to the community but anyway this is also it is a lot that much. When whats really become what should be there that they have from where theyre going to this if those are the happier if that. But anyway i think also that is that is shocking when we when i have the out that. They let their. Position theyre not. The problem in the m. And. If and when theyre cut off its not that is really shocking. It is there for any citizen when theyre hearing it like this of yours where you know the trump says because iran theyre allied to the hutus thats why he cant give money that goes to poor women and children in hutu communities in yemen. When you know that was the. Misuse of. The air its not the United Nation as. This if you will. Its one of their its a part of their their cuts from these efforts there. There is that many problems but anywhere so we are sticking above that my duty but they have to be politically needful of these headed. We have to reach that that get it google just on targeting there was a party here in london very Expensive Party of grove now its people from the b. B. C. Of spoken their arms Company Party not being part of the britain earned. 6. 2000000000 pounds in weapons licenses since 2015 and thats what oxfam says do you think britain in the United States they see yemen as a place to earn money from the killing more than to give aid to the people suffering the killing. We hope we hope that the. International that are in a position and especially the laws working on Peace Process. That will stop or see that witness to the laws in forth in water it in a man i should i should actually say it was actually 770000000 pounds of aid from the british taxpayer to yemen and britain says actually the arms sales are good arms sales we have a good arm sales policy here in britain when we send weapons that are bombing your country. We hope we hope that theyre go out and. Buy out of this many bad of these self. People for us to rebuild the amount because we need a lot of. Found a lot of money to let it be the only county. I mean that helps fight it the question of the air or answer. To. This. Thats why we want them to all clear the fire and to be that they are not tool. And what and what would you expect to be going to yemen anytime soon i hope that we can get it off there this is us and well be back to that in my country itll all be there. With the women we added. Actually we added in we mostly that it in it and we had a we went through on different. Political background and many of as also there and in the been there all the time we had were working on of their own peace Peace Process and what we are going to do all after the war what d impact should i ask i said the britain and 8 times more from weapon sales than a trump is saying no more aid maybe to yemen is a saudi arabia do you think saudi arabia is going to cut aid as well obviously saudi arabia has been spending money on british weapons. Your mean. I think theyre committed to their head the amount of support of the amount. That illusion with saudi arabia it is historic. And we have been mia minis before before the war we have many and many many immigrants is now. There is the. That relation between us out. There will be equal we know they have fallen dish and. But thats not what journalists say on the ground journalists on the ground say there is a hatred of saudi arabia which is why they bombed around go from yemen the Saudi Oil Facilities but that is another that we was there and also the board of that un i expect that is. Not true that that will seize it dont have. The abilities all of the. Time to get it. I mean it is fighting with the stat it is fire away from their abilities as it was started by. My county maybe. But not there but lots of that goes. Away thought you meant this that ok iran completely denies that area measuring thank you thank you after the break. Riots music with Boris Johnson pushing for tougher sentences cracking down on left wing voices and deporting people of color has anything really changed in the past 100 years of british history we ask Award Winning alto saxophonist so we took him to his new album the black peril explores the legacy of 9. 00 to 19. 00 a ball coming up in part 2 of going underground. In munich World Leaders discussed west listeners instead we should be contemplating the end of me liberalism also stone cold justice is there a dual justice system. The nobility of our future. Intentions of a. Christian. Even 40 years ago. Simply evaporated she says some questionable. Were still in an era of resource colonialism again this is a big risk and the one big thing that could really inhibit the kind of electric vehicle revolution that a lot of us want to see is if we cant resource the battery components in a sustainable ethical way then its not going to be a successful revolution. Welcome back in part one we heard about the worlds worst humanitarian crisis which continues to involve Boris Johnsons Government Back home and only in power of few months johnson has been assailed by critics and Campaign Groups for perceived tory injustices from deportation of british people of color to regressive law and order policies to the prescribing of progressive groups as terrorist threats the black peril the new album by multimodal Award Winning sex softness soweto kinch looks to the politics of 1919 to fight the establishment of 2020 joins me now its a way to thanks but i dont have a go and im going to get on to the album in a 2nd but the labor Leadership Debate on television here in britain Jeremy Corbyn outgoing said it was a case of a young white boy with blond hair related doubled in class a drugs and conspired with a friend to beat up a journalist would they deport that boy or is it one rule for young black boys born in the caribbean and another for white boys born in the us. So any leader like that in the debate its just a united but i love the fact this is freewheeling certain from the 2015 jeremy unfettered you have to explain to the audience how we can say that Boris Johnson in any way presumably the book i would want to dabbled in clauses. Drugs conspired with a friend to beat up a journalist i mean this is defamation of our Prime Minister says the beautiful thing the sort of himself has said it michael gove himself the half of the front bench of admitted dabbling in class a drugs lost at university was disease this is the germ recording that we want to see more of in the last election frankly and any leader of the labor party any socialist leader is going to have to be a lot more confrontational direct irreverent all those things that were dealing with in this new clip by age 30 ok but the government is saying that the deportations of people of color are nothing to do with race or plus course or is not to do with it just so happens that theyre all jamaican and being sort of i mean this is the kind of poppycock gaslighting discussions of race from race that i think most people of color are being subjected to you know the country theres something so overtly and obviously racist thats a dog whistle to most of the country theres still a an error plus a pool deniability about. What weve got to deal with criminality weve got to deal with drug abuse etc when you put these things empirically together then you realize it really has nothing to do with criminality and its more about signifying to the rest of the country that we represent the interests of a white majority and will do anything to ever voices peoples people from countries that we dont agree with lane or the government will completely deny that and i know i mean be feel free to talk about it in the context of 919 all those years ago but we have a more multicolored cabinet than ever get ever had a situation like that and youre talking about racism as if it in the days of Margaret Thatcher this is just it i think they like to keep us discussing racism and its really superficial most pantomime level and weve had 2 female Prime Ministers both of them tories and yet Living Standards for the majority of women in the degree of equal pay is still an issue neither premiership did much to advance the interest of true feminism. And the same is true with the most diverse cabinet that weve had in history but yet the most xenophobic and openly hostile towards immigrants and refugees and so its a way of brown washing if you like black and brown washing was still empirically the most racist and xenophobic and white supremacist cabinet that weve ever had in this country again the governor would deny that never said that you said but as to administration he was in venice to resume not Boris Johnson took on an old style course and you have to i mean this might seem quite tender gentle here but what the Klu Klux Klan where hoods they dont walk around with a badge saying a member of the Klu Klux Klan this is all about signification its all about subtlety and about giving a nod to people who do have those white supremacist views that were on your side well of course in fact it was the blairite in the blairite labor body the broadly in the 27 act gordon brown the labor Prime Minister brought in legislation that allows deportation of people of color in the 1st place so it was a labor Prime Minister in 1945 Clement Attlee who described the west indian people people come from the colonies as an incursion so theres a long history of the labor party being complicit with tacit racism so i always want to get straight to the also and just tell me about the likely ireland why it has something to do with 919 and i would tells us something in 22 went absolutely the black peril is based on a very real history of race riots that what was called race riots that took place 100 years ago in 1019 from liverpool to Glasgow CardiffSouth Shields whole areas that i didnt expect enough black people to even have a race riot in my history book whats interesting to me about this moment in 2020 and how it relates to that 100 years ago is that. Juncture where the working class is seem to be gaining more traction more awareness of commonality of interception when there is a credible challenge to the establishment racism is always funneled out into these communities. To basically help people against their natural allies during get on to how you translate that to music that youre talking about protests then what did you make of it when that list propped up of Extinction Rebellion and all these different groups greenpeace and oh theyre going see the terrorist groups on that piece of paper this is the march of creeping fascism really theres no other way to describe it to prescribe certain groups and thoughts as banned as a parent is absolutely a sliding scale towards authoritarian fascism. Is not the way to call it frankly what i do think though is that there are also preparing the ground for spontaneous insurrection spontaneous rage everyones just really angry you find this in the interpersonal interactions you have a people in the train etc and i just for i do yes not just everyone is wired so i think its important to draw attention to these instances because they hint at the racism the racist superstructure underneath it its not that i have any beef with a coach driver or trade train driver but its also to signify to everyone else going through those situations youre not crazy youre not imagining this heightening of racial tension between people and lets step back and analyze this psychosis white psychosis thats being called whos really benefiting from it and has been disadvantaged by it because its my very strong contention that everybody is being disadvantaged by White Supremacy including the supposed White Working Class you know the way these issues are covered in Corporate Media which is its all about the oscars and the bafta is this kind of things you dont have much truck with the the key do it and it should be said malcolm x. Never to address the oscars i dont know why that was or theyre not mutually exclusive i think you can just as well have jay to pink it or you know it was complaining about the lack of diversity but we should always. Back to people that my good friend in the andrew is pointing out that theres a systemic and International Racism that means that life outcomes you know infant mortality education housing these are the industries in which we can really measure racism and what racism really means is this because the class dimension is another superstructure which is why debate seems to just be confined to that didnt exist as a construct of people actually understood how engineer and artificial the whole thing the whole history of race was then wed naturally find allies with people that we identify with i want to think that i found really key throughout the last Election Campaign was how they could create a shorthand for alien just venezuela a few of the buzz words and it seems to sum up everything that. We think of as anti british and. Of course this country used to have and im going to be as far as 919 but in the eightys race today we had the coeditor laid on who said maybe diane abbott would never even been shattered secretary without a at least a magazine that was putting these in articulating these issues where they all gone and i believe. That we live in a far more atomized society than we have any point in my in my memory even at the time of the mine destroyed the poll tax riots you know i still remember. Very active working mens clubs very active organizations for unity and solidarity of black and asian people students etc because the racism was so offensive and so clear you knew what the enemy was and the fact you had to organize had to be solidarity and collective action to overcome those things when out of. That ideal of anyone being able to make it on their own pull themselves up by the bootstraps has filtered down and cross roots organizations and we no longer feel that need to have collective action and they are mindful of another fact and very pointed out to me that. Night. The 19 Marcus Garvey had over 6000000 members of the u. N. I. A. E. A. With no facebook no instagram to speak of no phones widely but the conditions of oppression was so clear the material disadvantage was so obvious that we had to organize and i think now would be living under this delusion that things and somehow improved because weve had a black president a few black m. P. s you know i should say the 9091 politics right actually brought down mrs i have to say with the labor leadership going on here strong lisa nally all these different candidates who werent really great friends arguably of Jeremy Corbyn they will be emphasizing their anti racist and identity politics credentials to take over what corbin has created is the largest socialist movement in west europe. I say this to many people have discussions about politics with really cut through all the rhetoric all of the ballast all of the. Platitudes and what is their voting record what are their policies if you looked into the house the famous image of the vote in the house when the vote was going down around the world and rush scandal just before it was even a scandal only 3 members of parliament turned up to vote against that bill and we know who they were dying John Mcdonald in germany called in everybody else even david levy who i think is a fantastic voice against this injustice didnt vote against it when they had the opportunity and that should tell us something really clear about that posture who they like the pope and who actually backs their words with action ok with joe musically lets talk about the music on the album how we reflect take all the complexity and i have to say you probably do reflect it really well try musically how did you go about reflecting such complicity plexi in music i mean any pretensions so accurately depicting all the forms of black music that were around 100 years ago would have been pretentious but i was very inspired by the research that i did so want to read music that you wrote left right music like that in some instances i was reconstructing historical music with write music specifically as a piece i wanted to chinle in energy a feeling of terror and excitement that black music has given us historically and still gives us today i find whether its drill jungle our you know double bass grime all these forms of music that weve innovated here in the u. K. Theres both this powerful revulsion and tara that we seem to enjoy and oh my gosh the young generation are losing their way to the metropolitan police is interested in july music this is the 1st time in recorded history. Had a song banned and were banned from performing it so thats a worrying precedent prescribing certain forms of music and not. But also were fascinated by black culture we want to emulate and i think its this tension in britain that we love your reggae love your calling to fall in love everything about you but you think that you think youre going to drill minister for mayor of london for that made me into a minister need to be build and weve discussed it weve talked up a little bit another thing the great friend of mine in music part called it was pointed out. You know black liberation figures are often global liberation figures because they say if you at the bottom of some suppose that hierarchy can liberate yourselves emancipate yourselves then we all can. 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