Transcripts For RT Going Underground 20240713

International next its going on the ground well in the u. K. And ireland but i think. Were going underground 17 years to the day of the repeated largest protest in history when around 10000000 people in 600 cities around the world peacefully demonstrated against tony blairs war in iraq his history shows elites largely ignored that concern coming up in the show we speak to the 3rd biggest Pharmaceutical Company in britain j. F. K. About the chances of a vaccine amid an epidemic of misinformation about the rotavirus. Code until december the british m. P. For one of the richest places on earth kensington speaks to us about grenville the day after another silent march to commemorate a defining emblem of the cause. Of bailing out the city of london buses mafias across the e. U. Are accused of using the block to launder dirty money we speak to the director of a new film the traitor about real life mafia boss turned informant so master was getter about the cause of betrayal of its socialist beginnings and collaborations with the f. B. I. Told us of all coming up in todays going on the ground 1st ahead of the u. K. Cabinet reshuffle outgoing labor leader german corbin this week effectively demanded the resignation of our strengths and foreign secretary over alleged misinformation linked to the cia after johnson appeared to concede that processes of extradition of a cia spy accused of killing were one sided corben said this this disparity with the u. S. Is about to be laid bare when the courts decide whether the wiki leaks publisher julian a song will be extradited to the u. S. On charges of espionage for exposing war crimes the murder of civilians and large scale corruption will the Prime Minister agree with a parliamentary report thats going to the council of europe that this extradition should be opposed and the rights of journalists and whistleblowers up held for the good of all of us johnson didnt answer the question and then in a week the u. K. Corporate media has been continuing arguable support for islam is to extremism in syria the Scottish National party came out all guns blazing lamenting Syrian Coalition attacks on groups affiliated to al qaida occupying areas of it live some 300 kilometers north of damascus and 2017 thats foreign secretary this Prime Minister and not to the policy of accepting the city and assads rule over the country assad has delivered death and destruction on his people a man who has gassed his own civilians the humanitarian situation has reached crisis point and there are no concerns. All it war it wasnt clear whether the s. N. P. Leader in westminster then wanted u. K. Military action defacto on the side of alqaeda linked groups in syria even johnson seemed confused i really think that the right on the gentleman needs to consult his memory better because he will find that this country and this government has persistently called for the end of the regime crucial to britains reasons for bombing syria were allegations of chemical weapons used by the Syrian Government now it is the o. P. C. W. That is a specter of a conspiracy after whistleblower testimony but today the word conspiracy is arguably more associated with this information about corona virus joining me now via skype from brussels is the chief medical officer of britains 3rd biggest Pharmaceutical Company yes kay dr Thomas Brewer thanks so much thomas for coming on how confident is yes k of getting a vaccination for those people who are infected with corona virus. So obviously it is a rapidly developing situation normally exene Development Takes 8 to 10 years its up to see not have put into current search takes what has changed is that in the lead vaccines can be developed much faster but you still have to test any medicine and specifically vaccines in Clinical Trial its in humans and it takes 20 if to 18 months or for the current outbreak in china its not be hoped for but and if that. Develops you see that you have lots of cases in china and maybe if you were to go maybe this is it has yet as yet it has to be said but how difficult is it in the laboratory when of course the corona virus can mutate while the 12 months of research 18 months of research taking place here so we have currently no indication that the initial strain has mutated be a jewel constituencies them sequel its. Super lifting and for the time being it seems to be the same strain as it was in the beginning so it seems not to be a problem right now already china says it is using cubas interferon alpha to be to treat corona virus a human touch with the cuban authorities with what theyre doing. Or not but no youre talking about medicines not make sense which is another parallel approach which is currently because you would because right now we dont have back since not medicine sort of the medicine is an interesting approach and everyone is trying to contribute and is is there a problem here with the collaborating across the world with so many different organizations i mean theres a theres something called the coalition for epidemic preparedness innovations what is that group because you see diff share prices in Different Companies going up and down when u. S. Biotech company you know ve already claiming to have a vaccine they created in 3 hours. I mean i dont mean much that is true but im off as the enemy of what theyre doing and its one of the candidates might have an impact coming too said he its a private ownership which was created in dark horse in 2017 and this organization has collected money from different governments. N. G. O. S and theres money available to rapidly Facility Research and did now supporting Different Companies and Different Research institutions to come in to come up with a solution as soon as possible obviously the United States has sanctions on cuba so presumably a company like g. S. Kcal even doing the research and development with countries that are currently under sanction from the United States. So in maxine business and to kiss you mention its nothing to do you think since im just a kid big pharma big meeting with fond delegates will be a bit different disciplines and i see great solidarity that people from a different fields will to get reassurance coming out of this meeting because johnson and johnson a competitor of yours also says its going to get a vaccine in 12 months more difficult for your company after all it of course it was controversial its position in china had to pay half a 1000000000 buff to her court in china convicted you of bribing doctors to use g s k products so im not really sure where youre going to get bit this question absolutely changes and other banks in canada and its working on that. It was johnson and johnson are doing the same thing but is it more difficult for your company because china is presumably more suspicious of j. F. K. Because of this massive. Payment your company had to make for. Bribing doctors in china right now everyone is circling to get. Im going surely. Has a different approach we have what is called an adjutant technology which we have tested in the last through an image and the f. A. A. Cheap. People make the technology. Available to other companies if they think they can use this Technology Including Companies China the thing is though just in the past few days the s. K. Has announced its firing 720 people 720 people are being cut in research and development so how does that square with your ability to research and develop it so we had lunch going to ease ation. On a scale of this organization despair have definitely no impact in our ability to develop it seems the cause of their. Core business and it will certainly have no impact on their current discussion or article. And whats morale like in the laboratory i mean obviously the biggest ever drug settlement in history was d. S. K. With the United States 3000000000. 00 for antidepressants and of course when it came to swine flu you had to settle confidentially without liability over pandemics in ireland so researchers obviously are all obese be happy to look good on candidates which will make a difference for many people involved and corona virus is one of these examples im sure. Of people in just kenya many other companies its high and everyone who wants to contribute watching television reading the newspapers are you satisfied that the public is getting a clear picture of coronavirus or are you aware e of this information and fake news about such a dangerous virus im being very early in Life Children who are on social media and certain things i see. Really counterproductive but. Media in general is is very helpful and tries to speak to inform appropriately do you think you can understand why the public a suspicious a Big Pharmaceutical Companies 400000 killed because of opioids and now the Big Pharmaceutical Companies are saying theyre coming to the rescue of a coronavirus i think of all. Millions of people who benefit from pharmaceutical drugs on a day to day basis and i think that is on the forefront of many people who need medicines and specifically in a situation of and to meet the constant supply of basic medication septum or last. In saline its very important and i hope the pharmaceutical industries also remember that well in fairness they were hugely created by a keynesian infrastructure Government Spending surely more than private Public Partnerships like the coalition revenue emic prepared this. Challenge that Companies Like e. S. P. N. Others invest hundreds of millions into Development Without any security even a decent candidates ever make it to the market and any danger because of the race for profit for a vaccine for corona virus because all these companies are competing that one of the companies will miss Something Like obviously g s k did as they say over the president and others did over opioids. So i dont see any indication for that and. Your government has Regulatory Agency so obviously have to approve even. Core not corner virus medication accidents or mechanisms in place that everything is working out as it should be and youre confident that it will be a big western Multinational Company in order Chinese Government company or another type of company that creates the vaccine in 12 to 18 month. I dont make any prediction i know that Many Companies including Many Companies in china trying to work on a solution and its on the forefront of everyone whos voting industry dr thomas roth thank you. Thank you after the break. As the official tory set of inquiry into the ground felt by catastrophe in london immunize his corporations from blame we talked to the court in supporting politician who represented the area in westminster about the quest for justice plus traitors the mafia betrayal is a new film charts the prosecution of the cos are not struck we speak to one of italys greatest film directors former radical politician mockable akio about his paul gallen open aged movie of the civil coming up about to a going underground. In his community there are people who believe that its ok to suffer actual food on my table its really hard there are no jobs and you see that ive got kids and ask and as a parent. I can come up with lots of arguments theres a lot of conflict in the game between the 2 most of the conflict i would say revolves around money and most of their money is made. Close one on each of those he knows each other is Good Business the state of california alone makes 6000000000. 00 a year of the prison complex just to get some point in your life where. You dont care and one of my cares about you so your care might anything. Welcome back joining me now to go through some of the weeks top stories is a former labor member of parliament for one of the richest constituencies on earth kensington evident coders Borough Council for gold one emma were going to go through the postmortem over corbins defeat but the reshuffle this week that sajid javid the chancellor unexpectedly resigning is adviser mark allen when he was Community Secretary he was actually serving as a technical director at a greenfield cladding manufacturer more gallant please either back of him and replaced by a russian suit ak from Goldman Sachs yes absolutely he should be a couple of mr davis with him face to face the rush job you know with such a draw to the beginning of my incumbency and i found the most incredibly unsympathetic person very challenging i dont know why they gave him that particular road actually because you need to be at least half human a lot of sure that has to do with granville will be on to that in a 2nd this is go 1st of all to this story from the mirror a Cabinet Reshuffle to cost 100000 pounds in golden goodbyes estimate vegans 25000 birds lots of money being given a. Shuffle it seems absolutely and obviously when you lose your job you get out of redundancy payment so at last i have i but this is different but i just shifting to a different role its not as if theyve lost everything altogether their lives and the minister of cause i know that some of them are very very fond of but and to be to be paid for that i do think its a pretty of same one where we have what is it one in one in 10 teenagers living in poverty absolutely disgusting and perhaps the media representation of runners and riders whos winning these are kind of missing the point i think so but then you know there are some who are very really crucial most of them are members of the new people so that its that kind of tightening up the club that they just want. Bricks and barrels one person who did keep his job was recent leader of the house of commons who famously said that grand filled the granville dead should have disobeyed firefighters advice actively this from reuters inquiry into londons grant of 6 protection of the key witnesses immunizing corporations and other silent march last like 2 whats your take on grand phil and the sea search for justice i was there that day when they when the this request for immunity from prosecution for evidence was was given and then i was there the day when when the chairman of the inquiry actually said that he was integration has been now sent to our attorney general or even when we dont have much. Hope on on her teacher were ink for the chancellor and the chancellor and so i mean a lot of different groups and i meet people all the time because i live right there a lot of people just about inspire ready for any kind of hope of justice the whole Justice System in a case like this is torture for the people whove lost everything and now were going to have so out of braverman decided whether or not its going to be granted its ok well arguably those who also have been giving up hope during the week of those being deported from this country your leader Jeremy Corbin seem to say that an american admitted american born politician like Boris Johnson blond white used to class a drugs like ok hes not deported why should black people be deported the f. T. U. K. To pursue jamaica deportation despite partial Court Reprieve im very much on the side of we had so many cases in my constituency absolutely heartbreaking people have been here forever unpaid there is a labor legislation from 20 years gordon brown brought it in deportation floods when with a protest when they actually exposed this is recently because theyre being so harsh on people the people people who have committed a crime some time ago and have not paid for. It did do that are they still permanently considered to be theres no no hope for redemption at all so theyre still treated as outcasts of the people some of them may have committed a crime decades ago and have completely reformed their lives. He defended the deportation of people of color number 10 i dont know who had number 10 people are thinking its probably going said this is a westminster bubble story the deep ordering of people of color of hardly hardly and it seems like a hardening of. Everything that we are dealing with there i mean racism is is is becoming rampant again and its very very depressing i remember it was like that in my youth you know we are true melting pot in North Kensington and suddenly all these issues are coming out its horrible its really horrible its venomous its toxic it infects every layer of society what they think are these you know black people are bad they must be sent back you would support Boris Johnson being deported into the you know the well i think it was a brit it could put in touch because we know who are these if if its a deal to do with drug dealing who are they supplying we know this lying often its white collar workers and there was a huge scandal just last year about the amount of coke taking in the house of parliament and that the ills in the thames out so i were freaking out because theres so much cocaine in the water coming from the 10s of course the m. P. s in the corridors apollo completely deny cocaine abuse im sure they do believe that course they do express here is e. U. Murphy our crime bosses of abuse the brussels project to make billions of course many people in the red wall would say that the e. U. Is im mad for your organisation not sure what you think of this particular story but certainly you think recall cost you your seat concerns a bit more complicated really you know we are heavily remain constituency i actually came in on a take a shot of ticket really which was accepting the result of the referendum but making sure that that weve been. Number formed and then we had specific the specific red lines were kept that was the low participation at that time it became a Party Decision and then we made this what i still think is an error even though my remain a. Second referendum i still think if we stuck to our 2017201718 position. Of of leaving but reforming and having a good proxy as we called it in the old days i think well you know we had a much better chance of winning it were i didnt hear stromberg was likely to lose and be irony is that hes now the lead contender for the for the earth for the leadership what i do actually blame him for for swerving our position and i do think we need a different voice and while were listening to the person who lost the election and i dont thank you. Well away from them after years in the European Union what about the original sicilian Crime Syndicate a new film the traitor explores the real life story of mafia boss told us so to scatter in his betrayal of secrets of the cause another struck and the fabric of italian politics we caught up with his Award Winning director margot block your friend to murdered communist filmmaker leni at the Mayflower Hotel in london tell me about traitor and how your main character drama so was getting played by your friend just go over you know he says the mafia the name is a media construct there is no matthew no louis got a. Call from their brother to get this you. Spoke only because he says matthew is the sort of terms used by the newspapers by the media but in actual fact our organization is the cause of nostra. And he explains to folk only and this is why his collaboration with our community is so valuable. Explains the architecture the structure of the costa nostra. The meaning of the. Commission. The district bosses. The family bosses the copper is email on the soldiers body so that. All the internal structures and hierarchies are connected to each other so falcone can finally understand there were many crimes but they were not connected to each other. Yes he tells falco and their cause and australia is like the new socialist utopia democratic to protect the poor for all the heroin see was a really cool yes thats what bush et there says to falcone he says i believe in a different math here i havent betrayed the mafia i have given allegiance to it because that was a mafia that respected the children the women the judges and that especially helped the poor. A sort of Mutual Aid Society which gave to those who needed it. The corleone family or heroin to pay to system it. Because of their thirst for power their greed. Broke those rules and so they are the ones who betrayed the principles of the course in australia i am not the traitor they are. Because of all of us at that time falcone says no. Thats not the case even in your mafia. All sorts of horrible crimes are committed. They are different but somehow they must all be condemned apart from the connections to italian politics. Bush had to do you think hes naive he didnt think they would kill all his family mum but inside i. Know because he didnt think salvatore in the eightys did so much they had to kill his children. And his relatives to bring him back to sicily and then kill him as well. Considers him not just evil but a natural lunatic botts someone who is driven by thirst absolute powers. He accuses him he says you have destroyed the cause of nostra. You all you werent happy with all your power and all the money you made yeah you wanted absolute power over the cost in australia and that was your downfall. So yes well yes in a way he was nigh because he didnt expect. To go that far. Killing his children his brothers is nephews his whole founding. Certainly is not naive about italian politics a conscious decision to when we see and realty in the film. You made films about the red brigades ill do more of. That a journalist coming back or really killed in 979 with a red pepper bullet he was going to reveal and reality and moral connection in the film you chose not to but the political connections. Not even these goals know the story about belongs in a 2nd phase. In the sense that folk only wanted to go after his 1st maxi trial he wanted to tackle the 2nd layer. Of the politicians. Of all those characters who were in the shade and who had never been charged with anything. But who falcone knew were responsible for all the massacres that were taking place in sicily and in the rest of italy. But because there was no evidence both falco only and. Decided not to mention the 2nd level. When falcone was murdered in a capacity killing its as if bush after she respected falco in the andes and considered him a friend he decided to carry on giving evidence. First for the anti mafia commissions and then in various other trials. To try and prove under a lot its role the most it was not the only one. But he was the most important for. His colluding with the mafia. And all but off to file coneys death. That was weak. He didnt really have sufficient evidence to have him convicted. He told the truth. But his truth was not enough. And so in the 2nd part of the film we see bush at this decline. The testimony with andrea often marks the beginning of his decline the italian spy francesco buzzy ends up he was convicted over the bologna trade bombing he claimed was heather was a cia agent when you were working on the film you didnt want to get in do not have that metal feel in that question although even i have to say bush said to himself said there was a coup being planned in italy and because of russia in the mediterranean they called it off what do you think of all of them. Said that i won as well as bush at the spy with the cia did he collaborate know in a 2 and a half hour film we couldnt tell his whole story would have needed 5 or 6 hours but there was a side to bush in the states after collaborating in the maxi trial he went back to the states and collaborated with the f. B. I. On all the trials the pizza connection and so on in which a whole series of other mobs does were involved and who had been arrested in those years. Yes i dont know if he was collaborating with the cia. Well the f. B. I. He probably was. But its not something we dealt with. Because it was hard enough to keep within those 2 and a half hours the whole an italian story. Im not ruling it out but you should all someone else im not a historian. Who knows all these things. Are going to look you thank you thank you. Speaking to me that in the film is out internationally now and thats it for the show will be back on monday had a neighbors Leadership Debate here in britain to ask if the left has been forced into silence on the issue of palestine until then keep in touch by social media and you to next time globally at the same times with a lot to u. K. And i knew times of 813143830 g. M. T. See them