And lovely cant couldnt mexico on the beach with the palm trees swaying in the monkeys chattering special guest with us today alex patch off sea. Bit fury theyre rocking it out in the mining space thank you marks remind you finally and tell us about its a company that was very early into big and we heard about it we talked about on kaiser report going all the way back maybe to 2011 or so but tell us a little bit about it sue before it was wrong to be in 2002 well initially it was like everything was just beginning from the whole big suv the people with so many different businesses they realized the beat when existing the start to try mining going and then they decided just to create the company and they were nice cheap and they started building the data centers a 6 you mentioned a 6 what are a 6 chip special custom designed i. C. Cheap one performing on the one single functions. A lot of things youre hearing skills just created its like bigger capable of course just to create the cheap bot its working whats the me Consuming Less Energy is this possible in providing more reforms and this is when mining big client kind of transition from the home miner who is on their laptop and suddenly there were these basic chips and it became more it industrial is that correct yeah thats correct su the chip was not invented only by bt quietly using them from the seventys but the normally revolution if you feel about the beat going like about the infrastructure its the warmer all the operational expenses and this is the reason why instead of the c. P. U. The speech for g. P. U. Because the working more efficiently and consume less Electrical Energy and. Then they go to f. P. G. A. And right now all these using a seems ok so theres a bit of an arms race in the technology of big client mining and in china of course you have huge players to not only design chips but they also have a lot of Energy Available to them and they dominate with between 40 or 50 percent of all the mining depending on how you look at it is is that concentration of mining in china is that an accurate description and is that going to continue in the near future and is the new coronavirus threaten chinese mining in any way to. Its source chests like the obstacles for china because see if you look equal in the economy grow to be in 2 years we china is most last thing growing economy and then you have the fossil growing to go i mean its oser quite a lot of electric kind of the build a lot of the bridges they build a lot of electrical stations you know make their stations and this is a reason why they have resources just to like wrong the Mining Operations and in china because they have better composite see right now approximately like one seat maybe 50 per cent of the Mining Equipment operating right now but during that time i think these distribution will be changed soon right now people just doesnt really trust their government because the government doesnt have to be nations about the money that you have doesnt have to be very good prices for a piece that doesnt get an out of us and see it because the idea that big coin is becoming the new gold is becoming gold 2. 0 still hardest money thats ever been weve ever been and ever seen in n. Z. And manatee it seems logical that eventually states governments will begin to add to their gold reserves so countries like russia and china that have been massive buyers of gold. They will probably start to add bitcoin to their National Reserves well they get into i want to get your opinion on this because its been nagging me for a while will we see Something Like a hash war work countries dedicate energy to mining and attempt to get as many bitcoin as possible because because it becomes a Strategic Asset would that you see that happening yeah things to biggest right now the have the like absolutely different their city canonical they are then the internet was born is create the national air all resources mostly virtual. Working and then occurring before any need some hall to pay for services and then the twinkle for the paper money is not working sending like and providing the light Bank Accounts elsom up the proper way how to pay then we start sending sources using cannot show the stuff talking about economy working 247 but then your swiping pick rate card or your deal will scare and song me up to 5 days. Providing quite not and not speak just to pay for services the beat corn is looking quite real money for a be quite a for internet just before the payment and government because the also function in Global Economy if they are providing some sources they will need to protect their interests and this is also hard to be quite as working everyone is interested just to get their benefits from b. Korea and same time theyre trying to protect their interests and their supporters to cease to so the game theory thats kind of baked into the protocol it jumps to the nation state level and we see it all act let me ask you about energy use because on one hand you can say ok this is a Massive Network theres. 100 quintillion calculations per 2nd supported by the massive infrastructure and Technological Infrastructure but theres 2 points number one in this this industry chance to go where there is Cheapest Energy and that tends to go where energy is being wasted so in the case of natural gas where thats flaring and being wasted you would see big korean miners in the case of huge life school grads where theres a lot of down time electricity is not being going through the system you can use that in mind bitcoin so its actually Energy Efficient and that way to get your comments on that and 2nd of all if you if you compare it to figure out money and the Energy Required to maintain the global feed of money as you just described its highly inefficient the u. S. Dollar the yen the euro these are multi stack inefficient albatross systems that should be definitely disrupted so is the comment on the energy of the Bitcoin Mining infrastructure where are we with that soon right now theyd be going small snipper 8 and using the kid relate to stations to approximately quite close to 80 or some. Electrical energy used for mining heat or a mix of power and its most cleanest one. If you look at the statistics the United States approximately between 64 person 70 porson Electrical Energy is generated using it for so for its meaning the gospel in the morning we quarrel and so on in the war its approximately 80 percent of electric and as you generate the use of the force with pool its not the greenest one. Going on the biggest the lake the you dont make the station they are all these fields providing some extra capacity because you cannot improve them quite easily if you cannot expand the dom you building them at the beginning and you have a couple of resort just in case if the local businesses or. Living people need more energy and the result is creating a normal resort to kind of what they get at the station i about to sell at the lower prices this solar energy its not so green ill be counting biggest manufacturing the solar panels using a lot of like poison shared history it was a show of the solar panels and also easy not so green. Will its definitely nongreen this is the biggest usually and this is the reason why stocks in the scene the police through ice higher comparing to internal combustion say and you can see calculate seeing all the c o 2 all the Carbon Emissions during the fuel cycle if you use manufacturing and also disposal and the tesla from that point of view its not so green and people constantly assume asia the most of the electric. Cleans fossil fuel we beat corn else using the most up to mice infrastructure so its meaning comparing to a regular financial system. Doesnt have a central bank it doesnt have offices it doesnt require and police the only infrastructure is already existing again its using the existing internet doesnt require any additional cables lines anything in result to the. Made mistakes and all the people like you mentioned in game theory if i would like to use that money sue im became part of the system im trying to protect my interests against your interests the only interest and to use the beat corn just to perform payment will be trying to protect our interests it appears as though theres going to be a new competitor in the big mining space in the United States and texas. I guess led by peter thiel is kicking off whats called level one and their goal is to capture 25 percent of the mining Global Mining or hash trade. They have access to great cheap energy in texas now this place in 2 different ways number one obviously on the downside if youre a big miner like bit ferry probably the 1st and the standard setter of this industry i would say you know host of the annual conference and Necker Island you know you guys are really sitting at a very privileged spot so heres a newcomer and theyve got raising 50000000. 00 or 200000000 dollars valuation theyre going to grab 25 percent of the market thats that sounds like a negative but on the other side it means that the Network Becomes more secure because you have more cash power going into it which means that the price is going to go up and you guys are very early in the space i would imagine youre sitting on some bit coy so theres actual theres a lot of upside to the fact that youre bringing in more capacity into this industry your thoughts start think the mining could be. Like any like any os or business right now its not just about the money to old idea. Became white most series right now its more about the technology more about the experience more about your engineering skills more about your under me thinks more about your ability to more foster react on the all obstacles because. The internet and only Services Like beat coin be a function to rainbow sentiment its meaning if something changes you should react immediately and she will build the better prediction and beast decreasing curie skin increasing pure appreciates. The im not afraid about the new cameras in the. Normal the high concurrency on the mining fell creating pigs aka the efficiency for a be quite as many keep pushing their old abrasions the. By price biggest the currency between different players pushing them to optimize all their operation on complex expenses and this is why the old miners creating quite more to mice the system wont agree to my separation spirit fairy has really rocked their mining space for years now thanks in large part to this gentleman alex petra the c. E. O. The chief Information Officer thanks for being on the kaiser report. Plus my pleasure thank you wow yeah not sure exactly what happened but anyway stay tuned for the 2nd hour a whole lot coming your way. In this community there are people who believe that its ok to eat this up or actually its really hard there are no jobs and you see that ive got kids and ask and as a parent. I can come up with arguments theres a lot of conflict within the game between the teams most of the conflict i would say around money and most of them money is made. 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Welcome back to the kaiser report im max keiser time now to return to our conversation with the clout of gold money dot com and yes im an investor in a company heck yeah ok also welcome back to the show thats my pleasure max we were talking in the last segment about the Central Banks buying up lots and lots of gold and what does this mean and are they preparing themselves for what exactly and it seems as of what we have seen in the last 10 or 15 years is the weaponization of the u. S. Dollar rights of the u. S. Dollars World Reserve currency and then the u. S. Dollar and the folks who run it in the new york fed and in washington decided to cut iran off from the swift system and they threaten folks in iraq theyre going to were going to seize your assets in the new york fed right so theyre using the dollar as a weapon and is that one of the reasons why countries like china russia and others are buying lots and lots of gold because theres no counterparty risk they they want the exposure to the weaponization of the u. S. Dollar and is that if that is that true and has the u. S. Kind of hoisted itself on its own to target if you will by by encouraging that kind of behavior ouster i think that is true i dont think its the only reason he based it kate to the american suffuse that the dollars a weapon as you push it for some considerable time but the difference not is that the you know the big players away from america a lot easier intimidated or indeed talk you know like sort of cases in places like indonesia and so on so forth it they just dont get told any more so the result is that every time america uses its dollar weapon it just reinforces the idea that. Like russia or china whoever protect themselves by moving in to go rather than. Having the complete explosion of the dollar and this i think is one of the main reasons why russia in particular rich she earns nothing but dollars and she just gets rid of them as quickly as she can and good bets again to go the u. S. Of course is adding over a trillion dollars of National Debt the next few years or so. You know Interest Rates arent going up Interest Rates of course are not going up because the Central Banks load up their Balance Sheet with all the junk and they swap it out for fresh treasury bills you know last episode you mention john law and the mississippi bubble as its now new not by the way i should note that myself and james turk also from gold money made an excellent film about this you can see it on you tube its a 2 part film about the whole rise of the ass not in france and john laws and what happens when you start to commodify everything in our economy to backfill money if the money collapses the whole economy collapses. And my taken to believe that you believe you think that this is where were at now in the cycle that everything is being essentially a commodity ties to back this paper money which is its like the worst thing you can possibly do its john law all over again but on a global basis is that true else thats is how i see it i mean basically what joe or john lord did was he set up a private bank which School Function or oh it then managed to get that confessed it into the royal bank which is affected laid low at the 15th the 15th central bank or rather the Region Central Bank and it allowed johndroe or to print money to buy shares in the mississippi venture so it was a double run when he merged the 2. 00 together which i think was separate the 281720. The king in other words the regent because the king was. So young but the region decided to take some money out of this and he took 90900000000000 leaf threat just short of a 1000000000 leave her out of it right at the top now at that stage john doe is beginning to have to plug a few holes here and there in the whole thing. Like he had to ban the use of callings and his notes had to be used as money instead this is sort of the thing were doing nowadays or been doing throughout a while taxes had to be paid out of his currency in other words he would provide you the money to pay the taxes so it was a double round he was using that money to puff up the mississippi shares and when they merged in february 17th 28 that met that actually was the peak of the whole thing and what happened was that the collapse in the mississippi shares happened at the same time as the collapse in his his john laws bank notes in leverage so much so that by september in london there was no Exchange Rates in other words they went from. Full value to valueless from the end of february to the end of august now the key to it is that he was tying together asset values financial asset values with the currency in years want to puff up the other and the other effectively to support the former so you could see that the 2 things were tight together what have we got now we have got a very similar situation Central Banks puffing up markets we have this coronavirus saying today which should be undermining asset prices because with the chinese economy affect to be taken out of the equation for the foreseeable future we actually happen economic crisis but what happens puffing up share prices wall streets up 400 points today i mean this is crazy the other thing that theyre doing is theyre driving down the gold price to. Try and sort of gave an impression that everything is ok this is very dangerous stuff and it reminds me of well john rule was in february 17th 20 the similarities are all for us to see if we want to look forward it reminds me back in 2008 of course what got the whole Global Financial crisis started was one of the funds on wall street a Junk Bond Fund they had to revise down the Net Asset Value of that fund and that started a Chain Reaction it was one fund on one banks Balance Sheet was downgraded and it started a Chain Reaction of Lehman Brothers and bastards and elsewhere and a crazed create the Global Financial crisis which requires 17 trillion dollars worth of or more in ballad money and the response of wall street and washington and other banks around the world was to increase the size of the pipes that carry the money right so they didnt they didnt bother examining well is the currency self worth anything or is the system unstable or are we floating this enormous global ponzi scheme they set the ponzi scheme were going to keep that intact but were just going to widen the pipe so that we can float and flow more fraud remember it wasnt so in insolvency crisis auser it was an eloquent in a crisis right it wasnt that they were committing fraud it was that they werent getting enough free money from the Central Banks so they made the pipes bigger they deregulated they re architected they change laws they stole from other poor slobs and then that they have this bigger pipes for the bigger global ponzi scheme but my question is are we at the limit of the carrying capacity of the reforms that were introduced post 2008 to make the global ponzi scheme bigger in other words so are we at the map. Excellent carrying capacity for Global Financial fraud at the moment or can we float another 102030 trillion worth of fraudulent paper money in in the system now ouster i think were very close to that point they say that the point i think today is that we have a contract in Global Economy now what this means is that the dollar balances that foreigners need to hold are less than they were previously so theyre going to turn sellers of dollars now even before this turn sellers of dollars you have in america a budget deficit of over a trillion dollars in this current year the effects of the coronavirus if you want to blame it on that but i reckon its already going out way anyway were going into a slump the effect on Us Government finances will be catastrophic now who is going to buy that debt the foreigners are not going to buy it if anything theyre telling sellers of the dot and as Interest Rates rise they will liquidate portfolio positions remember that the sum total of cash and it vestments in america including fulfill investments. Holdings of u. S. Treasuries t. Bills and some say fall is in the order of 23. 00 trillion dollars it is more than the whole g. D. P. Of the United States now with that situation and so few people seem to recognize this they are not going to buy any more theyre already stuffed full of dollars now ok some people have borrowed in dollars and will need eventually to pay back dollars and they will need dollars to pay the interest on that debt yeah sure but the level of Foreign Investment in dollars is so high that on a net basis you will find that no foreigner will be buying u. S. Treasury debt and weston that when they tell stern selous that. You have real problems your government will not be able to fund an escalating deficit escalating because the net present value of those future welfare. Costs are coming home to roost. Unemployment will be rising which basically means that you know current welfare costs will be increasing as well youve got a Wonderful Health service. Which is extremely expensive not only for the government but also for companies and the key which will undermine it is a falling dollar and a foreign dollar will be the response of foreigners to the situation in america so lets focus on the end game here lets say there is a global reset and gold becomes once again in play and we go back to some kind of Gold Standard the u. S. Us down simply has 8000. 00 tons of gold in fort knox and they believe to have the biggest gold position in the world india has 20000 tonnes amongst its population its got a Huge Population a lot of people of india the individuals own a lot of gold there is that weve got huge gold buying by china and russia but still nowhere near the position held monetary gold by the us so the comment i want to i want to ask you about this lets say the whole system crashes we go back to a Gold Standard whos in the best position at that point to rule the roost so to speak i think the problem with the recess is that we just dont know how its going to happen i dont think its in the hands of government i think basically governments got to get the finances are going to get completely destroyed to the point where they withdraw from intervening in the economy and that could take i mean i think i think that the initial effect would be really quite sudden but it could take quite some time before we get to the point where governments accept the uk its actually got to drive things the only thing we can do as individuals i think is his head. Dont to sound money dont go with the fish equivalent sound money in the form of go to silver and have that protection because youre going to have to write it out its that difficult it can always turn the Buckingham Palace into a mcdonalds thats a hell alice our thanks so much for being on the kaiser report thats my pleasure max well thats going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and Stacy Herbert want to thank our guests are michael out of gold money dot com if you want to reach us on twitter its kaiser report by a. 2040 you know bloody revolution of you tube the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you know we hear a premier liz put video through in the new bill is that im spoiling you to the former ukrainian president recalls the events of 2014. 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