american citizens among the least satisfied. people get more votes and then they lose but that's not really democracy is a democracy 60 being taken out of the hands of the people who. are my colleagues is in the studio for next hours world news update coming up on our to international it is going underground but in the u.k. and ireland are watching their sputnik is next stay with us. through referendum the british people. the british people have spoken and the. people be right for me to try to be the captain of this country next just a nation. he took office. we will rise to the challenge was a vote that would shape our future for years to come and she was humiliated after 2 years of failed negotiations the house of commons as delivered its verdict on her bricks i have now tabled a bunch of no confidence in. suffered another huge blow british parliament rejected her plan for the 2nd time this is now the 3rd time the prime minister's deal has been rejected 48 hours ago she relaunched her withdrawal plan it was meant to win the support of her colleagues instead it simply seems to grow closer the last days of may resign as leader of the conservative and unionist party i do so with enormous and enduring gratitude to attach the opportunity to the country i love boris johnson has spent years waiting outside number 10 downing street today the door has finally opened its government will work flat out to give this country the leadership it deserves this school has already concluded that the prime minister's advice to her majesty was unlawful void and that no if it corresponds to a call for an early general election hoping to win more conservative m.p.'s that will back his projects it. is a fight for the soul of our country. something to win the world with to deliver to the people of this country yet. we are now in a position to say that this election has been won by the conservatives now is the moment precisely as we leave the e.u. to let the healing begin i mean. i know you want to know national tax but we're going to wait. for january 31st what we're going to do is work with our principle around this food tonight you. destroyed mr president this in my opinion. the imaginary tense you were going underground hours after the u.k. officially left the e.u. ending 47 years membership of the world's largest new liberal trading block with me in the studio of the daily mail's consulting editor and your peers former liberal democrat leader and said receive the business of its cable and front man of sheffield band revenue makers john mcclure who campaigned for labor in the last election welcome to we're all of you we've got the eve of bricks it papers here not today's ones our time has come when the murdoch sun with the 50 quid they giving out seeing 50 p. coins and your paper a new door one for britain and drew a momentous day because the guardian will be getting to that in the in the 2nd predictably against brick said but i drew how do you stand up for this is a from page momentous day we salute a new dawn for britain directly from 10 downing street then you get the head yes right we've got the white cliffs of dover that boris johnson speaks to the nation he doesn't do that very often this has been a long time in a controversial way no pool cameras well 3 and a half years been waiting for this and it's about time and i think she now get on with it and look forward to the new beginning so when so you have campaigned against breaks it before and since the brakes at referendum your reaction well it's probably neutral. it's a bit of an anticlimax we knew this was going to happen a couple of months ago it's happened nothing materially affect only end of the year in the under terms or and it was some years before that some canister whether this is a success or failure are going up on my part john what do you make of the celebrations on protests funny on my way here to walk through whitehall which is obviously kind of like a pitched battle on one side of the road is the brick city is on the other side is the remain is and it's obviously all very shouting stuff and i'm come kind of we've been really i think that there's a time for shouting and this is not because ultimately sucks up and i don't think we should wait a year see why. we are then and those of us who were opposed to bricks then me kind of in hindsight look what the wise ones perhaps ok well we certainly know that the media played a part and certain people that lost claim that it was the media that changed it has got to this headline from the god which is johnson met murdoch on the day he signaled a general election bid only one media billionaire not like a role the mayor your boss. walk away to join what do you think about way he met murdoch before calling the election is it still big oligarchs i think rupert murdoch. said the current conservative government is pretty much in lockstep actually and i think that you don't have to look at the kind of coordinated headlines across the murdoch press to see the whole into question whether we are in fact sometimes a democracy because i think of all the people doing about this do all the facts all the time and i can they make an informed decision in the general election and i would wonder whether it's possible it's all in this country to become the prime minister without having rupert murdoch on side a minute not so stating it i mean he was a real power 20 years ago 10 years ago when when cameron how does guyon number 10 but since then you know social media has gradually superseded some of the print media he lost b. sky b. you know that's public i mean the problem the problem with that headline is personal didn't go to the general election he wanted a general election but it only happened because the s.n.p. in the lib dems combined disastrously tent in my view to say they would back an election the labor had to reel in then the fixed in power at least through did so without the lid ten's and then do rupert murdoch there in a general election but just listen to donald trump and his all important reaction to what's happening in britain we look forward to negotiating a tremendous new deal with the united kingdom have a wonderful new prime minister wants very much to make a deal it's a sale. great news events that the employer be impeached president fighting with former national security advisor john bolton he wants to do a deal as former business secretary of this country who was in the cabinet under david cameron must be great to hear that i was involved directly in the teach at negotiations from the attempt to reach an agreement with the americans ken clarke and i were the point people in the u.k. government teton despised by don't know in fact that they will go some piece of paper from the americans but it will not do very much and in terms of access to america the big problem actually is procurements in the states it's not actually by federal government you know individual states and yeah you are and then terms of the concessions we have to make in the u.k. i mean there are the well known food safety issues there are more subtle subtle is . setting up of this new court which is independent of our judiciary independent court to arbitrate u.s.-u.k. trade yes sudden disputes around investment that was one of the really tricky issues on think it will come back again in the negotiations with the us trump has got this fixation about countries that have surpluses and deficits with the imagined states and britain actually has a trade surplus with the us so we don't enter these negotiations in a terribly strong position under your readers because we worried about chlorinated chicken itself coming back with inflation is emblematic really because it is and i can't remember which minister was on which side of the on when liam fox was in the cabinet he had a big spot with michael michael go who's opposed to chlorinated you can coming in and folks being a purist free marketeer will have no difficulty with it now ministers tell me it's never coming in because it's become that totemic issue we'll see i mean john do you think when you watch that a lot of people in britain will be fearful given that trump is disliked greatly in this country yeah i mean there's a real risk of the you know the risk of we. when in the kind of labor election campaign we on the left worry about the you know the u.s. demand for free market access to the n.h.s. which is kind of something which terrifies everybody and i kind of feel you know a little bit as though we have been held to ransom but you know i'm quite encouraged early days to put boris johnson resisted the clatter and the didn't from the white house over the wall way and he purse to head with that decision which i think was the right decision and that and we would total the apocalypse we're going to happen if we didn't listen to the united states and he didn't and i think that's a good stone to your mind about you know not just a good start was a good decision and i was surprised but he ate it ground and if you don't see the signs are waving leaders of the obesity the u.s. trade negotiations are a lot more encouraging because it will it would go to this as regards island in the breakup of the united kingdom it alone trade from business inside of the u.k. is a little new view of the world means it will lose to the brics a trade talks says lee overread price was as you come to you again it's because. is this how it's seen in europe well they will have to approach these negotiations with a certain amount of humility and we are in a relatively weak position and i think we're in a different phase now and we're no longer argue about money on the principles and with withdrawal agreement actually what the british are asking for is not very much in this kind of the type agreement is actually about decoupling from the european union what do you make of it joe well i think you only have to look at britain's recent interventions in the middle east and various other parts of the world to kind of see that we kind of still consider ourselves to be rather a big deal in a lot of our colonial past and they had this kind of fallacy that one country is going to dictate terms to 27 other countries it's obviously a nonsense and moreover than our kind of worry about the people that we're electing to while fishing i mean. kevin self is a homosexual man and bobby's johnson's comments about gay men are on record for all to see i mean i was the player when the 2 of them go for meetings the thinking is this i don't they get many people think is ok good place is a good marketed versions were police type of favorite kind of tourism if a man is mayor of london and he was he would he was in the price great wearing pink some pink stetsons it was a city company made a call and he's made lots of city come and save us ok how about the attitudes to the conservatives and what the conservative alike when they negotiate let's hear from dominic cummings who is seen as the springle of the of one of the core problems of the core tory party brand going back decades at n.h.s. and people think by the way i think most people right the tory party has blown by people who basically don't care about people like me but that's what most people would country have thought about 20 policy for decades i know a lot tory m.p.'s i'm sad to say the public is basically correct than drew who is that man so our international viewers that's dominic cummings who is like the blue sky sinker the man who got breaks it down for boris johnson to run lead with bird johnson michael gave his friendship actually is much deeper with michael gave it goes. that many years bone microscope is going to have a huge role in an in hearts business to palm and i think a lot of you don't realize what tommy comes he's never been a member of the tory party he's never been member of any political party and the reason a lot of mates in the tory party he was brought into government just to get briggs it done he's latest big target is now going to be defense because because it's a basket case and has been to decades but that is typical personal thing he will turn the civil service upside down and he will turn the tory party upside down well i'm sure no one from ministry of defense will deny what he said about procurement but vince you agree with cummings but yes and i think you know we have this caricature of tories as being right reese mark right but he is totally untypical i'm actually i mean one of the relieved regard way the labor party of underestimated the tories is the fact that the present since a factor with margaret thatcher john major now or they have really consciously tried to become more populist and engage with you know what you might call the right wing working class suburban you worked with him i do not go along to see him coming as an arch i mean obviously john what he said about people's attitudes as to what tories feel what it was the n.h.s. do you also understand as other elements like the un report by feelable student of the international reports that say there's been a political decision to the cruel decision against the poor of this country yeah i wonder how many coming has got from the opposition where essentially is telling the truth and what he said there was perfectly valid i mean jeremy haun coauthored a book which kind of openly advocated for the privatisation of the n.h.s. for the poles and set a systematic immiseration of a 6 significant part of the british population they say that this is a political decision that's been taken. to austerity in the n.h.s. and stuff and i wonder how that money can then go from a spouse in those views to go into being government will because you want to get done and labor certainly are going to do it with a little existence and you know he's telling. the truth he's a very very. just clever strategic thinker one of the best and it's labor ironically who's lost those white working class people the tories that say east and partly it's because i think jeremy colby most it seems pat to take criticism for that but he did i went out and some of these northern cities wouldn't think that because a cold and he couldn't even bring the russians even if you took masing this stuff all resonates on the doorstep well i don't know joe what do you think about that i think if you think it was brags that there's an element of what you say undoubtedly the kind of smi accompanying perpetrated by the british mistakes made. some of these a lot of things said he wouldn't play with a lot of things that such as him being a check spy an old man of the things particularly in the daily mail and over newspapers which were out i absolutely completely untrue let's be honest and i think it's unprecedented the kind of smear campaign against kobe not only there's an element of that in the north but i live there i don't know why people vote the way they beat me because a brick and your fence john would take a break that well for all of them after this short break. what politicians do. you put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. some want to. let you go on the press before 3 in the morning people are. interested always in the waters of. knowledge or you watch your whole life. it was said to me it was impossible for wasting my time to go back to business it just shows you actually the truth of it is there was a massive disconnect between how westminster sold in europe it is you how the country will be it's. what i did was to go in there and expose it. why do you go from. 26 days after the referendum i believed. what the government said and i kind of stepped back a bit from it all and it became a total mess but i came back and. reset the agenda i am not going to run away i'm going to keep a very close watch all of this next year i will praise the prime minister the rooftops. well. if it's not i think a very large number of people who voted. except that it's a democratic result except what's happening and now want to make the best of it i mean. he's going to refuse to use the 50. he begins to look a little bit like a member of the. this is one of the biggest. in terms of the constitutional position in this country for centuries it would be ridiculous. he's a big history triumphalism it celebration really. what really happened here is the people of. 10 years ago. building. one of the levy european union this was a grassroots campaign that succeeded so the real winner here is democracy and goodness me. as i say we will be there. many thing. and they may be right and if they all right. you know if it turns out with. history but it is. that's great. we will be there we will allow the ball to be dropped again without. and will you be trying to take the rest of europe this movement oh yeah look i. i i'm pro european in every way i've spent 20 years but i've spent over 20 years inside the institutions and i want to europe of sovereign nation states i want to trade together cooperate together have rest of prosody student exchanges to be neighbors as if we're living in the same street and they want to respect each other work closely with each other and i want to be run by a bunch of old men in the european commission who i can't vote for like not really thank you thank you very much. greg the party leader nigel farage speaking to going on within the past 24 hours welcome back i'm still here with andrew pierce so in stable and john mcclure. andrew is not going to be made ambassador to the united states because he didn't get on with only cummings legibly but a victory for tony bennett against your hero mrs thatcher who always wanted closer relations with the european union if she was alive today she'd have been in that referendum campaign she'd be back in supporting nigel she were as you would if you i'm quite convinced this is a great moment tonight for us because he now has to be seen in in the context of he's probably one of the most significant politicians who's never been elected to westminster at the last full 2 years because without the brick without him it never been a referendum he spooked david cameron panicked held a referendum and then screwed up the referendum join it as we said it is a left wing project in its inception tony benn was the key cheerleader breaks it at the moment we're seeing the flames in paris as the. fluting border posts in greece as they try and lock out refugees the e.u. is near liberal project why should labor ever have not supported knowledge of well i think in some ways the lexicon of side of things has been completely written out of the narrative in lots of ways and the right the political right. almost in its entirety. with these that were kind of forced into this by anything where he thought you were either he or you completely. madly for it and lots of us on the left of like reservations about the book would draw the stain and you never hear them voices and i think jeremy called himself said at one point i'm 7 out of 10 about the i personally am 7 i would say i don't think he was perfect by any stretch but i honestly feel like the alternative break is going to be a disaster when you book out you're a professor of those school of economics presumably very remain london school of economics did ledger for edge come up often when you were in the cabinet. no but of course he's the big winner and was right about that but i think we should be learning from my much i don't think people are going to reopen their minds on this issue for quite a long time but after 10 years hence they haven't delivered there will be a lot of disillusionment probably mounted up so probably that the younger generation will want to reopen says ok well let's look at something about the environmental implications of bricks at this from your own active he could use carbon border tax against brics it britain warns that we. can be seen as got a complicated story at the top especially given the boris johnson is talking about climate change goals but it says that the greenpeace investigation claims that tens of millions of tonnes of carbon are being sent or projects are being sponsored by the british taxpayer as to how do you see the climate change the. context of brics action climate change is becoming it's become a real issue now and it's really important i thought it would feature more in the general direction actually because i think criticism has been hugely influential she's much ridiculed by people out on the tram but by god she's put it on the agenda and the young people in this country have really passionate about and you believe boris johnson personally as well i think he has to be otherwise he'll pay a heavy price for it what do you make $1.00 of the carbon tax is a perfectly sensible this is not where you are as a business to but it's actually to say no u.k. export finance that's not you doing. export front arms it's about imposing a tax on all carbon using substances including imports are swear the carbon tax comes if the european union start slamming on import restrictions on china and india and brazil and the rest of them and these these are the countries that are not going to corporate but join we knew about european environmental standards from under the diesel scandal of the european garment effectors arguably the left though believe that the european union was so a force for good when it came to the environment yeah because i think we have to take collective action with regards to the environment and that means you know cut cooperation with other countries in this idea that we could in disentangling ourselves from political you we can also do so from a geographical you're a piece is actually nonsense we exist in the same part of the world and therefore have to take some degree of collective action i think johnson's game of populism that he's played during the whole thing actually means that much of his base maybe don't care about climate change i think a lot of these basic would be important facts openly skeptical with regards to climate you might be right about that but i think he's got people around you know they've got to bridge this because nigel farage always denied it was about immigration to one side of the electorate and then talked a little bit immigration to others if we see this from the level of independent boris johnson accused of using immigration system as a marketing gimmick over high skill visa. since immigration you often used to say was behind the old bricks that a project would you make of the high skilled visas and what's being talked about and presumably this has to all be done we are going real problem area for the government and i had constant problems when i was in government with to reason of a student son and other things but i mean in a way the government is pointing in 2 different directions and they want the economy to succeed at the same time a lot of people in the u.k. expecting immigration to fall quite drastically and you can't satisfy. all these different constituent he's always been he's always took a different line there to treason may have an issue if you want to be in the low tens of thousands and i think boris johnson's taken the figure out completely ok well let's go to this the telegraph u.s. could see community vitek judd's imposed brigs it u.k. trade deal more than glory the chicken you worry your readers about isn't this the problem that these big tech companies the payload the any tax well that's the pump of the tax but it's going to be part of the free trade deal you know it's all the jobs is is there is going to be a tech tax of course that's another standoff with trump and who's how long he's going to be present but we don't know when it's quid pro quo they have to pay tax but then they get full scale full spectrum surveillance of every british subject no no i mean we will continue to be governed by g.d.p. of the european nature rules and that's something he was a member of but i would be surprised if we deviate from their touch because it's worked quite well casey has obviously tax. their pay tax in the u.s. either then in negotiation surely they had a facebook amazon twitter who knows else can just say to a british minister you know what if you want to do this to us we'll leave we can block you from it they have the power we do it well they are they are massive global companies i think that there is an interesting case in the british competition system at the moment where we're trying to block all the authorities say they're trying to block a takeover of amazon the deliverer of figure out what sally one of those subsidiary companies and i think that's a good test of how much taking back control really be something in this letter would how do you think briggs it will impact us will feel as well or of a brit seems to me that we're being blackmailed essentially they're threatening to put a tax on the u.k. call industry unless we cave on the she issue is interesting that looks like the crown is already caved in the french may kind of do with us as the us a scheme to tack. the tech giant's i think is an open and shut case i mean you have to link directly to austerity into the kind of situation this country jeff bezos alone has the money to and will probably for 10 months kill anyone he said those are the figures you know we're going to win even if the children succeed 4000000 people even public is going to rise to 5000000 k. to have the rich the vents on financial services where the big growth has been since this is that you're in the big bang will be the same regardless of the so-called brics it's only a joyous occasion going to take a hit and about 20 percent of that business is with the european union moving institutions the city of probably best place to cope with it well it's here boris johnson kind of a previous boris johnson there when he was johnson's arguably the how would you vote tomorrow it was around i'd like to stay in the single market i'm in favor of the single market i want to be paul i want us to be able to trade freely with our european friends upon which boris johnson was that we're going to go to now i want to be less orica he read to $5000.00 word article stupidity telegraph one he published why we had to leave it was a very eloquent case where we had to be fair can case why we should stay and i he waded out like this in decided which populism this is not only true he will say anything if it guarantees power and as much as i kind of hate margaret thatcher and love jenny colby it makes me yearn for politicians who have conviction because these people literally will say anything useful coming before saying the exact opposite coming from a still believe in the tories will destroy the n.h.s. we don't know. vince you were in that cabinet of david cameron who put the referendum in place which is why when talking about all the great 6 years in the cabinet i was in a movie how d.m. duncan smith and quite a few others i don't think they remotely thought that we were going to walk away from the single market and trust in the unit we could have worked towards a bricks relationship with the european union that kept most of the economic benefits but walked away from a lot of the politics and we haven't done that and i think there will be a big price to pay or andrew do you think actually as nigel farage seemed to intimate britain is the 1st of the countries to leave the european union i mean i'm not wishing that a lot of the european union will still the french workers. they don't offer sort of a day or a bit also of course if we had stayed in the customs union the single market then we would never be free to strike the trade deals beyond which is one of the great attractions the irony of course is that today we've requested help from the regarding corona virus on the very day that we left which to me demonstrates perfectly the need for international co-operation you know really we're going to rejoin without doing the europe. that called love up and got the uk so the formal legal position 5 years time the european union may be quite different structure. vince cable drama what thank you doctor for the children back on monday when the man who the gold from bernie sanders tries to win over i were in the what we call been failed to the progressive politicians in charge of nato nations even. i actually don't think monopolies per se are the problem it's. access to credit or to politicians and probably both but the crony financial isn't crony capitalism that's the big problem. in 2016 millions of europeans are taking to the streets while the union has refused to sign the free trade agreement with canada triggering a cry.