Thank for joining us here on r. T. Internet. You can see has said its refusing to provide the global doping watchdog water with key samples from british requests for the materials came as part of an ongoing drugs investigation into the night oregon project aunties. Is right across the story for us. The background to this and why doesnt you want to hand over these samples it seems straightforward they would well the night project story has been running for some years now until it basically blew up in october last year when the head of that project the main coach Alberto Salazar was banned for 4 years by the u. S. Antidoping agency from any sporting activities on the allegations that he used doping for his athletes not always with the consent and even awareness of those athletes particularly the al carnitine. Which is improving strength you know recovery its not officially banned by water but in the doses that salazar was allegedly giving to hes out leads that he was coaching it is forbidden by the. The code now last year he was banned and then people started looking into the fact that more the pride of british sports was one of his athletes that he trained and basically people started looking into the possibility whether more could be you know could have could have used to be in his career and were talking about the 4 time olympic gold champion a 6 time World Champion in track running and you know more far as one of the greatest athletes of the generation so theres always been sort of a little controversy surrounding his Success Story whether it could have had some you know dark aspect or with the use of b. D. S. And such but now the World Antidoping Agency decided to clear the matter up and requested the doping samples from all farrah to be reopened by the u. K. And open agency and handed over to water which the u. K. Age agency said categorical no 2 and i believe we can listen to what they have to say there has never been any ill feeling a lack of willingness or insistence on our part but when you open the sample up every time you freeze it and thaw it and freeze it again you had agreed in the sample you need to be able to give me credible evidence about what it is you want to look for rather than this just being truly an expedition. And on top of that responding to a question from the journalist the head of you can said you know whether these the weather water has the authority to pick up those samples and walk into the lab and just grab them upon request she said no it will stay with you and that has the authority over keeping those samples so you know considering the timing considering the latest news in the world of antidoping fight this creates a lot of controversy this scandal with as i was understand it somethings been dragging on for several years it is nothing new why all of a sudden now water want to get their hands on these samples from. On the side of what it may be you know the willingness to assert their power especially in the wake of what they did to russia just fortnight ago on the side of we could speculate a lot but you know the fact that more fire is going to the olympics in tokyo this summer you know that could be also the timing because you gave these being so protective with their star athlete but fair play to more fire himself he always denied all the accusations of using b. D. S. Hes always said you know come get me and if you want to test me again thats what he said again lets listen im happy to be tested anytime and anywhere and for my samples to be used for whatever they need to do keep it and freeze it theres not much more i can do. Rush of course has been much publicized recently fallen foul of the powers of the world Anti Doping Agency. Russian reaction to this story surely i assume that the heads of the russian Antidoping Agency are scratching their heads right now having read the news that you know we could have done the same we could have just kept the samples to ourselves because as we know russia provided all the samples due to water and after that water decided that russia should be banned from major competitions for 4 years and that is something which is now being contested in the court of arbitration for sport as we speak a very sort of long going battle we are expecting to seal russia sporting fate but nonetheless we have a reaction from one side and i believe we can listen to that now. I believe that you can it should not obstruct any transfer of samples and youre positive on either side and this is not just about you cant agree its a wall of mistrust in the Congress Anti doping system and accordingly its athletes as part of this system you know the most ironic angle to this whole story is the fact that it was the u. K. Antidoping agency and the u. S. Antidoping agency which were the vocal the most vocal critics of russia and it was started back in the day they were calling for transparency they were calling for the world antidoping fight being equal for everyone and this is exactly what you get had to say back then we all have a genuine interest in ensuring absolute wealth and fair play stay at the heart of the Sports Movement regardless of nationality so as we can see this is the case of potentially double standards when you know some rules apply to ones and does not apply to the others in the case of u. K. D. Saying no to providing the samples it looks a little bizarre but appreciated there all the background to the story there are many thanks alexis ok lets get some analysis now from Ellis Cashmore hes a person of sociology at Aston University and a sports lecturer great to have you on ellis. The you cant you cant not handing over the samples of mo farah himself a 3rd is an open book test me test my samples that theyre there to be looked at again why is it not happening if there are themself in favor there in lies the ministry in new york why would her own organisation as alexey pointed out over the years pressed for transparency and openness suddenly decide to clam up and say we want credible evidence of what youre looking for what does that phrase mean credible evidence of what youre looking for and then he went on to say we dont we did all of this could just be a trolling expedition well the point is that trolling expeditions are exactly what caught the likes of Lance Armstrong and marion jones not dope tests but this socalled trolling expeditions what has the agency got to hide it has nothing to hide then it should simply hand over the song calls to wada and so go ahead do what you like with it we have nothing to hide here by doing this by denying them access to the samples creating mystery where there wasnt any while or so wasnt any i guess there has been some suspicion if only by implication because farah was a fairly ordinary athlete before he went to train with salazar in the United States that was 2010 he stayed with them until 2017 and during that time as a lexus just pointed out he became one of the most garland did most celebrated the most famous and for many the greatest ever athlete ever to come out of Great Britain so he is a hugely respected guy and of course anything untoward that was found should anything untoward be discovered then it would be a damning blow for british athletics. Id argue its as much about the athlete a much about him as it is about the behavior of the antidoping agencies in this in their case and make the point that you can kind of made their own bed theyve got to line it now in the sense that you carried the solder they were at the forefront nono. Every Anti Doping Agency around the world stood up and and condemned russia but if youre one of the loudest and they were the champions of transparency let lay everything out so everybody in the world can say having made that very strong stance then they have to now do the same or it makes them hypocrites no they arent groups i mean did i usually agree with alexian practically everything you say is but he said this potentially is double standards theres no potential about it it is a double standard theres no question about that in my mind and i think the rest of the world will stand as the jury and since say hang on a 2nd a few years ago britain was screaming for her for punishment to be doled out to russia because they refused to cooperate now theyre doing exactly the same thing themselves so are they inviting punishment. Probably are you know because if they refuse and they cant they reckon refuse to hand over the sob to water then they are risking the punishment full british athletes we presume if what is going to be consistent in dolling out these punishments dont forget the punishment against russia was to ban russia as a nation so that meant that every single athlete in russia was punished. No a similar kind of punishment for british tics would. Cause a store the world over and of course britain being one of the great proponents of transparency will be forced on its own petard that could realistically happen of the next several months and finally ellis isnt there a danger here looking at it as a layman if you get this internal power struggle and potentially they can have the governing body water saying well youre not acting in accordance with the laws and regulations of what we do even acting selfishly on your own interest and that then bring on the question any previous decisions made by doping agency if they havent been acting in the in the interests of transparency in fairness but in their own selfinterest would you be retroactive punishments. Considerable unlikely to happen i mean the way well the politics of sport doesnt work in a completely harmonious and consistent and necessarily fair manner so i dont think that is likely to happen at the will be any retrospective examination of britains record i think the most likely outcome is that while there will repeat it is request and say if you refuse again then we will explore jurisdictional powers here and try to figure out whether they can force the u. K. Doping agency to hand over the samples if he discovers that he cant then it britain will become effectively a pariah because it will be the country that refused to call probe is wider. Ellis great to speak to you as always always cashmore professor of sociology at Aston University and sports and media lecturer many thanks. In other news a landmark test case for euthanasia rules is unfolding in belgium where for the 1st time since the practice was legalized 3 doctors Face Criminal Charges prosecutors allege they illegally ended the life of a 38 year old woman the womans family says that theyve been broken by her death r. T. Saskia taylor takes a closer look. On Christmas Eve in 2937 year old teenager told her family she wanted to be euthanized but while teen suffering might have ended several months later of in a clinic in the flemish city of get and that of her family is still ongoing because the 3 doctors who were involved are now on trial for her murder this will be belgiums fust criminal case concerning euthanasia since the practice was legalized back in 2002 which accounts for an average of 6 deaths of 3 day the doctors insist they acted in good faith and are unfairly being painted as murderous but the hiring account teen sisters give of that fateful day raises questions over the competence and motives of the medical professionals. Who likened her death to that of a pattern that is in pain and is having a shot. When she died he asked all parents if they wanted to listen through the scope to check her heart had actually stopped beating. Belgium is only one of 2 countries which allows for euthanasia on psychiatric grounds and sees people suffering from depression gender identity issues and an erect resort to this socalled must see killing 2 months before her death as is required by your teen went to the psychiatry list dr point who diagnosed her with a mild form of autism teens family protest this diagnosis adamant she was simply suffering heartbreak and distress after a failed relationship. She knew that if she wasnt diagnosed with autism or aspergers she would have no chance of being euthanized as such they say the key legal requirement that a patient be incurably ill was not met and so by injecting her with that lethal dose she was poisoned really confused by the diagnosis and in this particular psychiatrists solution of suicide it just doesnt it doesnt fit together for me i think that there is a danger especially from a Mental Health perspective when people play god is so to speak when were making decisions now about life and death or when other people are making decisions about when to in their life based on things that can be fixed pretty easily in some cases Mental Illnesses autism is certainly very treatable one of my child has some mild autistic manifestations and we get through those you know its certainly not a reason to kill someone or to commit suicide but this was far from the only irregularity they noted and when they launched a complaint the doctors allegedly tried to block the investigation with the psychiatry even hitting back at the grieving family we must try to stop these people. It is a seriously dysfunctional one detroit family with very little empathy and respect for others this is not the fust time psychiatry to diagnose teen has come under scrutiny but in 27000 documents revealed the head of belgiums euthanasia review commission was concerned dr 10 point wasnt fulfilling all necessary equal conditions relations soured so much that he refused to accept and he thought the patients referred by doc to temp arent her colleagues are also worried that shes allegedly approved around a 3rd of all euthanasia cases for psychiatric reasons in the whole country she is not really a great person to go to in terms of her judgment for this kind of medical procedure she has a personal and are for looking at euthanasia as a as a solution for these patients so perhaps patients seek her out when for the like this happens it just happens to be too much of this about one particular physician and thats why shes being called into question by 9 other psychiatrist in her own field in belgium that shes doing something wrong so clearly theres some more investigation we need to learn more about this particular psychiatrist and this particular of the others have said dr 10 point doesnt expel Treatment Options available before granting euthanasia an allegation backed by teen sistas. Instead of trying to go team to a better life team was deliberately led to death and pushed without the reasonable Treatment Options being exhausted and consequently without suffering being relieved the question is whose interest was paramount in this process the interest of team or the interest of others euthanasia is legal in just 5 countries and is one of the most controversial practices globally stories like teens reveal just how difficult it is to ensure that peoples desire for personal freedom isnt tragically misinterpreted and abused or just live on the psychologist standing trial in that euthanasia case for a response she told us that she cannot comment at this time all 3 doctors deny the charges. French prosecutors have launched an inquiry after footage of a riot officer beating a protester went viral. Well you think theres not going to show you like i was in my. Room. Together the next time i get there that. I was. To france also filmed the aftermath of the incident today yellow vest rally in paris on saturday police tried to stop protesters getting closer isee officer was punching the man on the ground is the latest in the line of accusations against police at the protests with another case probing claims that rubber bullets were fired at a point blank range. The latest march in the capital people express fury at the governments pension reform plans clashes erupted between police and demonstrators a strike by public transport workers over the reformers chaos to paris for almost 2 months now despite the governments promise to compromise agreeing to drop some of the most controversial aspects of the plans with mystical america which told us much of the media ignores the violence by police at these demonstrations. Of different there were searches that weve had past years have always been tearing up with violence theres extreme violence and Mainstream Media we only see the violence of the demonstrators and very rarely the violence of Police Forces and this is has this has become a very big issue in france where people from the left out from the right just dont understand whats going on weve seen this practically every weekend through the you know best demonstrations this is one of the methods this is one of the many methods police are using today and its quite paradoxical because French Police was known in the past for being one of the police in europe in the world using violence that was that frenchmen of controlling demonstrations and then you can even when demonstrations were getting out of hand and this clearly shows that this is part of the past and the new with its meaning police using extreme violence against demonstrators. In looking at plans to rehabilitate criminals. In the u. K. After the break. What politicians do something to. Put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president. I want to be. 2 going to be close its like im up for 3 in the morning cant be good. Im interested always in the waters of my house. You know before george zorros became vilified as a. Market manipulator and electioneering or he wrote a lot of interesting books and of course c. N. N. Jim rogers at the quantum fund which was one of the best performing hedge funds ever kind of invented the modern hedge fund and hes got a lot of things to say if you look at his old work and were going to get into it. As a glimmer of hope for lasting peace in war torn libya following key talks and would lead this pledge to respect an arms embargo on black military support to all parties the German Foreign minister was cautiously optimistic. We have achieved the objectives that we set for this conference we now have the key in our hands to solve the conflicts now we have to do is use this he put it in the law and open the door. It was talking about it may have been eased open by meetings handshakes smiles between leaders and always see eye to eye on the 55 article agreement calls for a lasting cease fire and restart of the political process attendees stressed again there can be no military solution to the conflict the document also mentioned the need for security any cannot make reforms the u. N. Secretary general warned that nothing would work without a functioning truce. First we need to have a ceasefire you cannot monitor something that doesnt exist so we need to have a ceasefire we have a truce and one simple question is that all the participants to date committed to support the ceasefire and committed to put pressure on the parties to the conflict for the full ceasefire to be reached or those 2 major warring factions were both present head of the un backed government pfizer also russia and military strongman Khalifa Haftar but there was no direct contact between them something that was noted by russias top diplomat so generally we think the conference was useful its clear that the final decision is up to the libyans its also clear that so far stable dialogue between the warring parties is under reachable the differences of approach to great still suggestions the final document contains contribute to creating appropriate conditions for both sides to sit and talk some politicians seem optimistic but analyst told its too early to guarantee a lasting peace. Real dangerous the main virtue of these talks has been that the external actors will be able to move to agree but as weve heard the 2 main rivals couldnt speak face to face let alone agree and secondly there are perhaps 30 different sub groups fighting on the ground so that it may be that there is going to be a ceasefire that holds it could possibly be in the interests of both sides but getting their various cohorts to us is not has not been easy so far and there is the danger that each side will be looking to move or for Getting International credibility in code or spy saying were trying to keep the ceasefire but the others are breaking it at the end of the day were looking at a ceasefire thats all were hoping for this is not going to bring about peace its not going to really stop all out war were talking about a cease fire a hold to a cease fire which is not happening today we can have a road map we can have a process for we have. More lines if not the forces dissemination let alone some level of governance that the 2 parties can work with so as to be very difficult a long long way ahead we are in the early early stages of potentially what potentially help them for libya. There are concerns violent criminals in the u. K. Will be left unpunished and the new plans offenders with Mental Health or social problems could avoid jail if they successfully take part in rehabilitation programs critics they say the victims of the crimes with the ones to suffer. An important part of recovering from crime can be take knowledge men that they are a victim to whom wrong has been done we would expect the feedback of victims involved in the pilots to be taken into account before. The deferred prosecution scheme has already been trialled with some success in 10 regions in the country meaning it could now be rolled out nationwide participants must carry out 4 months of rehab to overcome underlying issues like Mental Health problems or drug addiction they must not reoffend in that period however different areas included different crimes in the scheme some only theft drug possession and 1st time offenses others include more serious crimes like assault Domestic Abuse burglary criminal damage support of the scheme claim its not only effective it will also save money based on the people that the West Midlands put into this experiment it seems overwhelmingly the case that you are better off not prosecuting if you can get them into a proper offender management scheme that is a lot cheaper than prosecution and does more good its an issue we put up for debate. The criminal Justice System has 3 main targets terence punishment and rehabilitation of those 3 the most important is of course rehabilitation when an offense has been committed because we dont want that person coming back into the criminal Justice System we want to help enable them to get back as a law abiding citizen i do disagree with peter when he says that rehabilitation has to be the most important part of criminal justice i think punishment needs to be the most important part well i think its one of those schemes that is very interesting re offending rates but doesnt do a great deal for victims i think there has to be an element of ensuring that people dont we have found that has to be an element of rehabilitation but also there has to be a punishment for the crime looking at it from the victims point of view i think there are serious questions to be arsed and this this kind of scheme deserves consideration its really fending rate is one 3rd of one 3rd less than the standard rate so i think it shows that these alternative methods do have a Better Success rates and those obviously good for the victims and for the Wider Society i think we do get it wrong in the United Kingdom in terms of the amount of rehabilitation and education that we give to people convicted of crimes or accused of crimes thought we dont do enough for victims and one of the concerns ive got about this scheme is on some occasions it does not involve admitting guilt and can actually make it quite hard for victims to access things like compensation so fine about education fight about rehabilitation but we have to remember the polish but it is important for victims as well. 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In a world of big partisan movies lot and conspiracy its time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that Mainstream Media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bath and shouting past each other its time for Critical Thinking its time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks