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A review of weeks of most important events but right now it is going underground on our to international and the u. K. And ireland sputnik is coming our way through. The welcome to going underground we will be back with a brand new season. But until then we will be showing some of your favorite shows from the last season of the decade coming up in this show we go to ramallah to hear from the former palestinian Prime Minister nabil shaath now a Senior Advisor to president abbas plus what is netflixs the crown season 3 jelling you about the british monarchy for my Home Office Minister and privy councillor to the Queen Norman Baker reveals old if you wont hear from them out. Of a levy a coleman and Helena Bonham carter all of them all going up in todays going underground the 1st this month marks 45 years since Yasser Arafat became the 1st socalled on state leader to address the United Nations General Assembly in a speech he claimed optimism based on the attitudes of human rights of the u. N. Charter. This attitude heightens the hopes of the world attached to the un contribution in defending the issues of peace and justice and independence to create a new world free from colonialism imperialism neo colonialism and racism in all its forms including zionism he went on to offer israel and all of branch for 15 years ago last monday he would be dead israel still continuing to violate Un Security Council resolutions and in the past few days fighting has intensified between the socalled largest prison camp in the world gaza and illegally occupied israeli settlements israels ambassador to london has not called back to going underground and successive representatives have never been available for interview on this program joining me now from ramallah is Senior Palestinian official and former chief negotiator and Prime Minister of palestine Neville Shaath now bill thanks for coming on the program so the idea of says they attacked underground rocket launchers elite launching stations underground terrorist infrastructure and military forces of the Islamic Jihad organization your reaction to the renewed violence in gaza and the occupied territories and israel this is a pure cold blooded murder this is an assassination i mean this is this is not this is not a warfare this is a deliberate assassination of of people their homes. With them their wives their brothers their children. This is the specialty of israelis so who. And his wife were they not terrorists. As the israeli says and whether or not therefore justifiably killed by the Israeli Government theres no justification for a cold blooded murder of somebody in his home and his wife they did they if if if he if he were to be caught in israel the red handed he would have gotten a maximum of 20 years of prison not a and neck as an asian a murderer with his wife were you surprised israel also shot missiles into damascus to kill. Son jury as well yes this is the sense the nation continues a minute it goes to. To gaza and then from gaza to damascus and vice versa and you need dont see the International Community out roused by this by this murder you dont see a quick calm the nation and some sanctions imposed upon israel this killing really has taken some highlight because it hits leadership but daily this israelis are killing individuals are killing people and killing brothers sisters wives husbands. And continuing it there are keep the illegal occupation of our land and. Building colonial settlements on our villages maybe you dont see that International Condemnation because european governments and the United States believe that Islamic Jihad is a terrorist movement dedicated to destroying the state of israel the reality is that israel is a terrorist government that is that they catered to destroying the palestinian homes rights people you wonder i mean really who is the murderer and who is the victim i mean they are the occupiers we are not occupying their. And 3 theyre occupying ours will britain and the United States continues to arm israel of course the idea for twitter says that rockets that hit including the one that hit gazas Palestinian Independent Commission for human rights they were actually misfired rockets from palestinians in gaza nothing to do with israel at all. That thats possible the question is that israelis do not account for the murder of palestinians to anybody i mean at best you get a United Nations resolution but you dont get any real sanctions you dont mean you dont get action that stop america from providing even weapons that the israelis can use to kill our people you dont see really punishment for what theyre doing with our country and the colonial settlements they are building this is the problem of course that does not apply to russia that dont apply to china other than those dont apply to india that does not apply to many countries but the United States particularly with mr trump and and its leadership has gone all the way to arm and to encourage mr netanyahu to continue his murder and his Murderous Campaign against palestinians but you say it is possible that it is indeed palestinians wrongly firing rockets thats why palestinians Palestinian Independent Commission for human rights may have been hit because the international has condemned the attack apparently by israel could it be palestinian misfiring i dont know i doubt it in fact at the time when the israelis are saying we have attempted to murder to assassinate these 2 political leaders in. Gaza strip and in damascus at a time like this its very difficult to really say. That its possible that another iraq rocket hits a target was was misfired rather than intended to be fired by the israelis media in nature nations is showing attacks on israel for instance instead or rot rather than ghibli to have a steroid to because is it actually israeli illegally occupied land under Security Council resolution 446 an area that used to be called nudge this is colonial acquisition by force by a country that is equipped with atomic weapons and quipped with. The highest technology the murderous weapons by the United States were not really talking here about. A National Liberation movement were talking about a colonial country that is occupying all our land Nuclear Whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu can no longer talk to the media and of course israel has never admitted to having Nuclear Weapons i should stay but your new Prime Minister dr mohammed. Would his background i mean hes been tweeting in amidst the current violence for protection from the United Nations i mean why does he think tweeting for protection from the United Nations is a worthwhile activity at all well im in looking for International Support based on the charter of the United Nations and International Law is not wrong i mean. At the end its only one of the. Vailable weapons we have to protect us from the israelis is not very effective but at least its one way of gathering International Support for you against the israeli might. Mr doctor is an economist and hes dedicating himself to the. Building and construction and Economic Development of the palestinian territories as much as more economic independence from the Israeli Colonial economy across our borders was anyone looking at the palestinian media pictures of crying children and dead bodies would say is not effective after all what are you telling at advising president abbas when it comes to the latest violence the latest killing of civilians in gaza while im in he is a man dedicated to nonviolent struggle there are precedents like in south africa many other places in which nonviolent action. Was able to turn around colonial powers and. It has led sometimes to International Support. And i think thats what president abbas. Really intends to do he he thinks that. Responding with more violence will bring in a cycle of violence that will cause a lot of harm and we are no match for the arsenal of the military capability of israel well some people would say the cycle of violence has been getting for years and your Prime Minister now saying he is conducting intensive regional and International Context to deter this aggression can you dont see why the entire arab world shrugs its shoulders when president abbas of the Palestinian Authority says things like well look we are living in a in an era in which International Balance of power is totally tilted towards the United States we are living in a mono polar world. Compared. To the world before 1991 it was a bipolar world that was the soviet union who stood up against colonialism and supported National Liberation movements but today. Were probably at the end of a period in which the United States has the. Highest capability of controlling and of using its power in the whole world and you have the arab governments a matter of leaderships having really suffered from American Occupation of iraq and syria from lots of problems involving the die and other organizations that have been financed by the United States in fact. I think this balance of power would will change eventually and the world will move towards a multipolar world in which Europe Russia china and others can provide a balance to this overwhelming American Power which has led to gross misuse of power in our part of the world where the United States and britain still continue to deny the aid. Despite arguable evidence to the contrary just finally while the killing of your people continues are you pleased that the European Union. Court of justice verdict they may labeling fruit correctly and begin identifying products made in israel israels illegal settlements are real and thats correct we think thats a step in the right direction we would have very much like to see a total boycott of products produced on occupied territory. In colonial settlements but at least the European Union at one time took the. Position that it will at least differentiate between products produced in occupied territory and products produced in israel proper and this labeling thing was instituted but it was not implemented and very few European Countries did implemented and now we have a Supreme Court ruling that its illegal to sell products that are not labeled i think its a step in the right direction. Thank you after the break we ask a former u. K. Home Office Minister and privy councillor to the queen woman baker about the british monarchy is royal robbery of the public purse as netflix is arguably sanitized the crown its a video streaming devices around the world all this and more coming up about 2 of going underground. In a world of big part of the mob and conspiracy its time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that made stream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bath and shouting past each other its time for Critical Thinking its time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. Welcome back within 24 hours of the crowned season 3 starring in the vehicle manila the bottom card at hitting video streaming devices around the world but how true or sanitized is the Netflix Series other need the glitz and glam of the crown is a myriad arguable royal robberies from another sympathizing juke and tax avoiding princes to relationships with alleged sex traffickers they are stories the british queen has tried to conceal from the public which pays away but joining me now is former u. K. Arm of his minister and privy councillor to the Queen Norman Baker exposes the british want to see for what it is in his new book and what do you do what the royal family dont 22 know normal welcome back to going underground so and what do you do its. What do you do what the queen would say is companion volume to the new Netflix Crown season 3 that is doing such a Good Business can you really understand any of these things without reading the book. I think reading the book will offer to give you a greater insight and it is a sensible piece of work its about you will work and in contrast to the way that the media often deals with the royals which is a kind of rather pathetic way of wondering what kates wearing today or what toy Prince Georges playing with you this is part of our constitution were entitled to have a serious analysis of what it does why does what it does how much it costs and when people are talking about the general Election Campaign whoever wins the general election m. P. s will have to give an oath in parliament 2 of the monarchy explain the curious meaning of serving the monarch and the importance of that oath well we are all subjects in this country allegedly not citizens and to we owe our allegiance to the queen in person and successors wherever they are glued ng people are Prince Andrew apparently this is not sensible for a mature democracy when an m. P. Like yourself future minister takes an oath i understand the way you did the oath was slightly different hand the official recording of parliament will it raise the truth over there yes i mean many people are let elected to Parliament Hill republican by nature and they adopted from tactics i think actually by and to form a labor m. P. Used to cross his fingers when he was given the oath. Others will gobble through it. Others for example in my case i gave my own oath which i believed him which was to uphold democracy and markets which are insta best of my ability and when hands out appeared the next day my was not there but gobbled it was even the official recording of parliamentary proceedings erases the truth of what happens when it comes to the monica. How difficult was it to read a book about the monarchy as regards papers that were kept secret by the government who thought well i mean obviously i did write the book and im still here to tell the tale but they didnt make it very easy for me and my privy council luthern the privy council so as i can access the queen and Prince Charles if i wish to do so will i try to act as Prince Charles was fobbed off i did get into the royal archives which was some major challenge in Windsor Castle where they allow i think its 6 researches at most any one time and theres no access automatically there its a matter of privilege what i went to no theres no theres no theres no list of files no index as to what you can see so its a question sticking a pin into the piece of paper and see what comes out and nothing about the present monarchy present monarch and her writing is accessible at all so that effectively through the 952. 00 there is a 67. 00 yr ban all material being released from there all archives theres not absolute ban all material from other the queen Prince Charles or Prince William being released even if its in the Public Interest theres no Public Interest test even for those for you individuals now we can get a Public Interest test applied to the rest of the royal family but its still quite hard to get the thing out and you know the answer to the whole family always where theres a problem which is arises is not to deal with the problem is to paint over the rotten wood or cover it all up thats what theyve been doing for 100 years well i want to get on to the members of the royal family today in a 2nd but why it is important in this book you draw some pretty terrifying not the counterfactuals if. If the royal family hadnt gone the way way it has how their support for hitler against him couldve changed the history of this country could well absolutely well look i mean the fact is that before the war the aristocracy in this country including of course the role for. Only and most of the conservative party that was in government wanted to do a deal with hitler because they saw communism as a bigger threat than us years and they didnt like hitler to be fair well i think nobody is like hitler at most and didnt but they were bred to tolerate hitler and the deal they wanted to do was that. Hitler left the british nation and the British Empire alone i went eastwards in terms of his labor that was a deal he wants to do and after the 2nd world war the royal family led on the government here at the at the government labor government who put a shooter much political pressure on the americans not to release information but whatever gates had been doing with the nazi regime we spent we used up a whole lot of political power and influence trying to prevent matters to do with the royal family being released after the war that was not the priority in my view for this government to 945 the priority was to rebuild the country rather protect whatever he ate it been doing and when it comes to hiding history perhaps predictable because Rupert Murdoch is known as a republican that it was the sun that exposed the picture of the young queen in the queen mother giving nazi salutes you say probably at the behest of anybody it was there and the queen was about 7 or 8 so it was early thirtys so it was before the whole of the full horrors of naziism were apparent i dont play in a queen for that she was a young girl she was 7 and she was with influential adults on collision between mother was an adult was the queen mother was are living in a sicilian so the queen is entirely innocent of that does not have a lot in fact i feel rather angry on the queens behalf. But the queen mother jolly well knew didnt she she was not old she knew what was going on and she give a nazi salute now how would have appeared in the war we were told about the queen mother in a war histories b. O. Brushed she would take the stand and she showed her face and Everything Else how would east end the. To have it in the photograph of the queen mother giving enough to salute b. B. C. I. T. V. The mainstream channels here loathe to talk about the nazi connections netflixs the crown they do mention it elliptical tony benn gave his last Television Interview for this program and in these us in the view he was going on about this Royal Prerogative why do things that when i turn events or that is so important when it comes to secrecy and britain going to war with other countries well the really there are 2 issues here that the 1st one is is one where the queens name is taken in vain if you like the role prerogative which implies that the queen or someone in the family has stopped things it isnt is a Prime Minister of the day who says this is a role perot is a Royal Prerogative is a Prime Ministers prerogative and the queen is no alternative but to accede to these requests from her ministers we saw that with the purgation quite recently when the queen whatever she was about it personally was obliged to advice of ministers and perot politics if i was a little off of course on lawfully it turned out that she had no alternative but to do that however the other issue i raised my book is something which people have not heard of by a large coal queens consent and in the prince of wales consent now that action 2 ways when a proper members bill is brought to parliament. That has to be queens consent for any bill actually before proceeds now of course the government bills is never an issue because the government a says the queen let this proceed but queens consents been used sometimes by politicians to stop a bill for what its all about iraq in 1009 that was stopped from Going Forward by queens consent because of the ministers said to the queen dont give consent thats completely undemocratic but the other issue for the royal family personally and its a queen could be refused when it affects them personally and what happens is the between the palace and ministers and that has a lot of course happens. And legislation is changed to do with the personal circumstances of the monica and her family thats quite outrageous what is the scale of housing benefit that the queen and the royal family get because you talk about the stored some of the money the taxpayer pays look its not just what they pay its also what the queen and i found weve accumulated over many years nobody of the queen Prince Philip her family her sons and daughters their sons and daughters is worth less than 20000000. 00 the queen under the direction of Winston Churchill the Prime Ministers sign decided that the queen as a new one i would not pay tax on investment income. Thats a gigantic handout is probably cost attached to your tax rate from the mail on sunday i think. It probably cost taxpayers close to a 1000000000 pounds in lost type think im just not one change leave it in the mail on sunday load or the mia of course in this book one of the road rather me is there a month with hitler today people have been talking about why newspaper like that is more interested in Meghan Markle the american actress married to prince harry than say Prince Andrew the queens. I mean. The male the telegraph before the war or all trailers for hitler. And its embarrassing for them to admit that the fact that Prince George lives giraffes or something i mean who cares and what is that is their business is not our business to know that what is our business is the fact that Buckingham Palace is being rebuilt effectively 3 to 7000000 pounds of public money when a batter of 3 or 4 years ago we were told need 50000000 thats our business but you wont find the papers very much or we need all programs will go up Prince Andrew and geoffrey ups femia and actually of the new. Reports leg ations of. Assassination in a u. S. Prison and so forth but you can understand why Prince Charles wouldnt want the fact that he sought the advice on his marriage to diana from jimmy savile even the stanway things like that would want to be kept secret. Because they would be seen in a bad bad light when in fact they were presumably the its a completely innocent well i dont think theres no way to know we responsible for what jimmy savile to and has been told in the in that sort of ghastly behavior that jimmy savile been indulged in but the fact is he should have bad judgment this is our future king he should bad judgment in relying on jimmy savile for marriage advice and being very close to him and being a start if it drove him what it was known to other people that the jimmy savile was a was a bad lot well obviously theyre also allegations about how the queen hides her wealth in tax havens but when it comes to the removal of the monarchy in this country rather than the barricades or anything you just finally you talk about the National Anthem and a slight change that is good in recent years about the National Anthem itself in british life is that is that what may be the windier at least that this sign that the monarchy is on the way even though that i think what is happening is that people no longer have the autumn of the deference which of all family wants to have the National Anthem is no. Going out of fashion no other country is father can tell has an anthem that relates to the monarch in person but have got many about one occasion but if you go to sweden or you go to belgium or you go to poland the National Anthem is not about the person and a National Anthem should be there to unify the country thats what National Anthem should do we should make every Single Person not country proud of their country but it sure like our National Anthem you have to. Both someone who believes in god and someone who wants to monitor you now you know many people do want those 2 things but not what he does why should you have to subscribe to their beliefs in order to enjoy and support the National Anthem thats your favorite shows of the last season we will be back with a brand new cd going on the ground want to be a filmmaker you compositional social media interview this is going on the grounds you have a good you. The 4. Legs. Live. Live. Live. Live. Live. 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