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Contractor many in iraq took action and that actions was a massive 6000. 00 plus protest in front of the u. S. Embassy in iraq a protest that included a small siege on the embassy the Washington Post reported that members of the u. S. Trained Iraqi Security forces stood by as supporters of the cut table hezbollah militia surged into the usually heavily guarded green zone breached the main Embassy Reception area and then set it on fire naturally all this led to a tweet off between u. S. President donald trump who blamed iran for the protests and embassy and the Embassy Siege and iran simply leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called bollocks theory tweeting out that guy has tweeted that we see around responsible for the events in baghdad and we will respond to iran 1st you cant do anything 2nd if you were logical which youre not youd see that your crimes in iraq afghanistan have made nations hate you. Yes my friends it appears that despite our best hopes twitter will still be the diplomatic tool of the 21st century so with tensions once again rising it appears the war and conflict in the middle east may well be washingtons new years resolution as we roar into the roaring 2000 twentys and start watching the hawks. Like you know that i got. This. Welcome everyone watching the hawks i am tyrone been turn joining me today by our Weekly Panel Discussion on the news of the week as the host of the world according to jess the former minnesota governor Jesse Ventura author and editor at large for salon dot com the one and only be walk ins are t. America correspondent Rachel Blevins and archie American Sports correspondent stephen christakis shows and weve got a full show for you we go from war to new years eve shootings to n. B. A. Commissioners weve got a whole lot to get to but 1st lets start with the recent protests and siege of the u. S. Embassy in iraq and i look almost immediately since the start of this the u. S. Spin machine jumped led by President Trump put all of the blame on the protests on iran and iranian backed militias in iraq lets get the big huge monstrous elephant out of the room and i me ask this panel. Are what we seeing happening in iraq right now a harbinger of a potential war with iran using iraq as the battlefield ill start with you jesse. Well of course it is you know you have to look at it the Congress Just appropriated 800. 00. 50000000000. 00 to the department of defense which should be called d the department of off friends and theyve got to have a way to spend all that money now allegedly theyre trying to get us out of afghanistan but were a war culture now so we have to stay at war so they have to develop a new war if theres not going to be one in afghanistan now all get political for a moment defy were president i would welcome back to 850000000000. 00 the department of defense but rather than spending about aircraft carriers and rockets and weapons of mass destruction i would go out you spend 200000000000. 00 on those machines that clean up the ocean then id spend another 50000000000 training the United States navy how to use them and we would start a war on cleaning up the ocean guess what the rest of the world might like of sergei but what are the chances of that no of course were going to go to war again because the military Industrial Complex hastur spend that budget theyve got there spend it or lose it what you guys feel should we be fighting the war on climate or should we be fighting another war with iran do you guys see a war with iran coming down the pipe or 2021 is interesting because there are just a few months ago the top u. S. Officials like my pump a 0 d and then john bolton were all saying hey watch out iran is going to use these smaller militias to go and attack u. S. Troops and they kept warning about that even though iran was saying we dont have any plans to do this and now all of a sudden you have a one tack i sat with this long list of the killed one you know u. S. Servicemen and now all of a sudden theyre going off in our honest saying hey we didnt do this it lines up with that narrative that they have in place and so now theyre able to say oh look at this and of course how dare these protesters come and star in this embassy and speak out in a country where the United States has invaded and has been for several years with no sign of leaving in the forseeable future goes through a sort of clear display of why we need new leadership. And everything its just he said just the whole idea of the military. Industrial complex will what is a new one every year and its been that way since this country began and it doesnt work for the people that doesnt believe what you think about this i mean well we could talk about whether who this militia was and you know where they were on the inner just iraqi people and what whether it was justified to bomb there or not but at the end of the day like rachel said weve been there since 2003 in iraq and unjustly so eventually people are going to rise up and when the bully keeps on punching you down and kicking you are going to punch back in the mouth and i think thats what happened and the u. S. Is being a bully over there and theyre bound to get get what they have coming its interesting too because what you see happening too is remember they didnt know it was thankfully killed in the siege on the embassy was mostly just property destruction they didnt get into the actual part of the embassy where people were i mean you know so one of the interesting things to the jump out at me is the Iraqi Security forces actually let these protesters into the green zone like these are the these are the Security Forces that weve been training for over many years weve been there. And then respond then you also saw that in response to the original u. S. Airstrikes that killed these 25 iraqis they may have been in the supposedly has been iranian backed militia theres still 25 iraqis that we killed iraqis iraqs Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi stated we have previously confirmed our rejection of any unilateral action by the Coalition Forces or any other Coalition Forces or any other forces inside iraq and we consider it as a violation of iraqi sovereignty and a dangerous escalation that threatens the security of iraq in the region are we seeing in real time the United States kind of lose its control over the country that it toppled its government like we said back in 2000 to 2003 are we are they losing control of this country. Jesse tyrrell im still waiting for the day dick cheney told us we would be greeted in the streets like a liberator a Im Still Holding my breath lets get dick cheney out here and explain to us why its nearly 20 years later and were still not being looked at by the liberators you know when your country goes out and they wage war simply for regime change is this is the blowback you went up with so everything thats happening now is the result of the misguided lobbying war of the iraq war was and thats all they do now is lied to get us into war now weve learned afghanistans been a big wide from start to finish one of the people going to wake up to these lies and finally say no to the wars i dont think dick cheney has ever been greeted anyway every. Detainee has the greed in his own country let alone somebody elses of it kind of makes us so big. And i know weve removed the easy on the Bush Administration you know trouble comes in this is goofy and out of control and we kind of for get like those years if you want to talk about him and how much damage was wrought they want him out in being a citizen in iraq you know how the United States come in way to this war and all this and it starts coming out that this weapons of mass destruction claim was all a big lie and yet theyre still there theres no accountability for any United States basically says hey guess what were camping out here and if you try to do anything about it and were just going on launch more airstrikes in this country where we arent even supposed to be in the 1st place i mean that has got to be incredibly frustrating point then i think you know we use the narrative as that isis is our biggest threat and there are these big scary boogie men over there but i would if i heard correctly this militia was fighting leading the fight against isis as well and were bombing the militia that is leading the fight against our biggest threat thats a very i dont know if they actually were they were what i will be doing. Ok lets throw in there too there would be are you serious if we hadnt invaded iraq in the 1st place did not exist until we invaded iraq there are the leftover of saddams regime that we didnt pay or keep on the payroll when we got there they went up north reformed themselves so our use of suits our frankenstein it always has but its very interesting to like in response to the protests and the burning of the guard stand at the embassy President Trump and all of his glory treated iran will be held responsible for lives lost or damage incurred as any of our pows sylvies they will pay a very big price this is not a warning it is a threat happy new year should the year. Literally under the tree would have prevented this. So the us president or any other elected representative or official from the United States is very serious be threatening nations or nations people or anyone whatsoever on social media savvy allowed at this point know why a lot of i know is in the zone and it. Was the element of surprise when my point 2 years old come on a man like you is out of control i think that you know enough and is i think the president should be kicked off its what it. Thats im so largely because you know we live in a day and age where what trampolines becomes Headline News as a result of the Mainstream Media takes that they carry this narrative right all this and they say well the president claims that iran was behind these attacks so now we have to go forward and spread that claim and spread that claimants one of those things where honestly they werent behind them so if its a lie that spread enough times and eventually becomes the truth and regular americans sitting at home or watching this on fox news or c. N. N. And theyre like well they said iran is after us and theyre killing our soldiers so now we have to go after them good point good point just going to say oh but he. Just is joe but i am. Lets rip. Member this is the twitter of a draft dodging power when it was time for theres a guy there serve what did he do he paid big money and got out of that thats why hes a tough guy because he himself never would ever fight himself he told your colt and let you fight who tough guy on twitter but not in real life its not exactly what i say just a example of a bully who should not be a leader in any way shape or form like at all because like i said earlier when you if you eventually are big bad bill youre going to get hit back in the mouth and he its just a bunch of empty threats it is that and that 3 is the danger i see in that kind of thing its like look i dont i have im fine with you want to talk policy on twitter you want to tweet out what your ideas are for the country want to have that communication with your base directly and not have to go through the media fine you can do all that but we dont need to turn twitter into like a 16 year old war that i see in high school between countries i mean see and then they all run as leader fire back at Donald Donald but i get that im tired of it i dont want to see it anymore and i honestly just dont like a lot of people who go to the social media his tweets manner yeah i dont know i dont think were going to do that matinee have this viral and implication and until until we get a president who doesnt own a cell phone or doesnt is not on social media i dont think were going to see that end anytime soon all right weve got to move on as we go to break card watchers dont forget to let us know when i think of the topics weve covered on our social media be sure to check out watch dogs the podcast which is now available on spotify apple music and everywhere you listen to your favorite not so paper podcast coming up the panel thats discuss the violent start to the 2020 here in the United States and then finally we journey into the land of basketball and look into the legacy of n. B. A. Commissioner david stern and stay tuned to watch in the fall. This idea as you point out the anecdotally cheney fired all the cia agents in the field because they were too sympathetic to the locals and he felt that was a liability in the major media spheres of washington d. C. They dont want those reporters those stars to rub elbows in the great ottawa show the flyover states because they may become sympathetic to the working class they may become sympathetic to the to the disenfranchised of america. Thousands of american men and women choose to serve in the countrys military and the decision. Every song came to a complete. The day that i was right. To hold a shot to kill me and i see how it destroyed my life many screamed at me and he made me come in the gram my arm and he write me this berthing area if you take into account that women dont report because of the extreme retaliation and its probably somewhere near about half a 1000000 women have now been sexually assaulted in the us military is a very very traumatizing have happened but ive never seen trauma like ive seen women who are veterans who have suffered military sexual trauma is more likely to get the victim punished to be a friend and almost 10 year career which shows very invested in and i gave a sex offender who was not even put to justice or put on the registry this is simply an hour in violence male sexual predators for the large part of target whoever is there to prey upon whether thats a man or woman. On january 1st of all most of us were waking up with a hangover and some. Memories of what was a glitter champagne or beer in peace some of us were not so lucky some of us waking up with a loved one in the hospital or even worse the morgue thanks to a friend stranger a loved one who misused or on purpose used a gun to inflict hurt in fact the New York Times reported that in just the city of st louis by new years morning the police were investigating 10 shootings including 5 deaths across that city the times went on to highlight that during the 48 hours of new years celebrations a man in cleveland firing off a gun to celebrate accidently killed his girlfriend in florida 2 men were killed in a shooting inside a nightclub and in baltimore which closed 2019 with the citys 2nd highest number of homicides on record the police were investigating 2 killings that happened a few hours before midnight and these were just a few examples of multiple shootings and killings that took place across the country just in time to welcome a new year so as we start this new decade with what appears to be no end in sight to gun related violence i asked this panel what would you like to see over the next decade take place when it comes to curbing gun violence start with the panel that rachel. What i think is one of those things that is going to take a cultural shift in you know we look at places where theyve theres some cities where theyve tried to enact gun control and theyve tried to enact different simply how that works you know specifically when you look at chicago and there are other places where its just a cultural thing and theres going to be a number of ways than answers that work for different cities and i think that whenever you look at these places you have to look at how well the police are dealing with this whether theyre even dealing with it all whether theyre just looking at it and letting it go by and not really whether theyre spending more time you know sending their swat teams to these huge marijuana bust and they are looking at these different homicides and i think thats something that were. Going to tackle in the next decade most of all and most of it i just see what do you see what can actually curb gun violence in your mind as im not i know youre a big 2nd amendment advocate. Well heres the deal look at it you know lets take a look at mexico for a moment mexico practices strict gun control theres big signs at the border you cant bring in a weapon you cant even carry ammunition or you go straight to mexican prison you dont even get 200 bucks for crash and go but the point being is that the point being is that they practice strict gun control its the old cliches the good people dont have them the bad people do because how many people died of gun violence in mexico now clearly we need to do better background checks people that are on Drugs Pharmaceutical drugs and mental drug should not have access to weapons and guns we need there would be a better job of that but it could start with our own government our own government setting the stage for us we are the larger seller of weapons throughout the world today whats the difference between a gun death or a rocket death somewhere else both of them kill women and children in the end and our government should take the example by getting off their high horse of being the largest arms dealer in the world then come and talk to be about my gun. Dealer you for. Some more phone. This has been one of the most daily is the is closing with 348 is. You know understand every argument for the 2nd amendment i get it says hasnt been working even when you tried tough gun laws to Police Officers out playing guns on people that didnt have them thats got a lot going to people who are actually shooting people so its almost like weve gotten to a place where we need to put a policy on the 2nd amendment and we think that its out me of im in south florida. Doesnt feel good. Ive been ive really hear stories about how old because this person had a gun they saved this family 2 over because this person had a good there wasnt this mass shooting like you always hear something bad happening nothing good is coming from it its empowering a lot of collards you know beyond everything that happened on new years just look at all of the Mass Shootings that have been even. In the past 10 years like its like the number is christmas almost its a part of our culture now its something that we that we know is going to happen in the we need to figure it out because the way it is now working with all 3 of everybody on here on the panel you know i think a little bit everybodys writing a little theres a lot of its very complex of course you want commonsense gun control but you also want to respect the 2nd amendment but that was also so long ago there might need to be some revision to that obviously because i was in a different time period theres been a lot thats happened since then but i think with common sense like jesse mentioned background checks closing loopholes like a gun shows and all that because you do want good people with good intentions to be able to have guns for whatever reason they want but maybe your 15 or you know you know the automatic joins in then was that a gun show it was someone a bag of skittles like this to study this is this is where we need to have i mean its easy to talk about Different Things than to say we need a possible 2nd amendment or we need gun control and thats not what you have to assume that the government is actually going to carry that out you know legitimately 1st of all and then at the same time was have to realize we have millions of guns in this country so lets say that we put out new gun control legislation we say are were banning on our 15th whos going to go in take those a r 15 thats going to create a whole new war on itself that well i guess there 1 are a lot of problems at the same time guns do save lives and there are instances where when you look at the texas shooting there was a man who came out shot off 2 shots before he was shot in the head by another man who was there with a god and i didnt man and man did not have a gun and there were at least 5 other people that had their guns drawn at the same time who would have easily taken. Whereas if no one else was on then he would have been able to do whatever he wanted to. See you try to weigh in on what you have to say. Well lets also look to mass stabbing. Right now youre seeing the trend of people going in jewish place of mass stabbing so its. This is a mental problem thats there that weve got to deal with because it takes a mentally deranged person to do any of that in the 1st place i want to finish off the show today and this week we saw the n. B. A. Former n. B. A. Commissioner david stern the 77 year old passed away on wednesday after a 3 week ospital stay up after he suffered a sudden brain hemorrhage back in the summer 12 started serve the top man in the business a professional basketball here in the u. S. For 30 years serving and be a commissioner from 1900 or 2014 e oversaw the billions of dollars rise of the n. B. A. During his tenure but also he was witness to many a controversy i want to ask the panel its curious when you see a guy like this who had such an impact on Popular Culture in this country he brought the n. B. A. And made it into a powerhouse he also had the help of a lot of big n. B. A. Players along the way namely Michael Jordan and Le Bron James and everyone else what are your thoughts on the how are the david stern howard stern and the david stern legacy in the n. B. A. All star with the jesse. Well i just like they have one year of his salary. I cant imagine how much money david made guiding this 1000000000. 00 empire and tip your hat to it i mean yeah you do things wrong bad things can happen that did happen the c. E. O. Of any industry over a 30 year period but lets look at the positives davids gone now what he did he took. Basketball international now look at the teachings of the n. B. A. They are not dominated by just americans now youve got an International Field the place you have literally the greatest basketball players on the planet and david sterns directly really responds i want to get to you steve as the artsy burger sports guy what were what whats your feelings on stern jumping off what jesse was just touching on internationally was a huge aspect of david sterns tenure 30 years in the in the n. B. A. From 84 to 2014 and he organized over 150 International Games he struck t. V. Deals in over 200 countries in over 40 languages that was huge that was unprecedented for any Sports League at the time and now you see the n. F. L. Follow up they have games in london every year so he kind of set that precedent and trend but also going off the money that hes made for the n. B. A. The value of the franchise in total of all the franchises has increased over 18000000000. 00 since he took over to now so thats a massive game is there definitely the n. B. A. Like i think of a lot of controversy people really had to sit back and say how he caused the expansion of the league and created of so many amazing errors like even before the jordan era a certain show time that was dont stand that was over time period probably more n. B. A. Fans did anything you know the robberies and. Rachel your thoughts of david sterns history and you know i think when you look at someones legacy there may be a little going to climb to great here and there but ultimately ending them for him for what he did and for what you contributed to this i mean i also have to say that i still believe the n. B. A. Draft is rigged. Ive invested a lot of very good stern of the lottery yeah i think its rigged for the big market teams i think theres a lot of behind this i think anybody whos watched n. B. A. Coaching over theres not one of this falls on david sterns back as commissioner whatever i think when you watch n. B. A. N. B. A. Refereeing over the years you can clearly see n. B. A. Referees favoring certain players certain teams certain markets over other teams and players and markets the probably going to last for. You know you see the names i get the calls of course the browns going to get a call or he doesnt get called for travelling ever but also another aspect to david stern he really changed a lot of social issues such as when people were afraid of hiv when they didnt know too much about it back in 91 when Magic Johnson was diagnosed and he had to retire stern actually let he was the Magic Johnson was the leading vote getter for the 92 allstar game and stern opposed as opposed to even players that want Magic Johnson play he let him play in that game and shook his hand and that quelled the fears that youre not going to catch this virus from just touching someone that had a big impact like across the world yes and you know i dont think. And lets look at the Bottom Line Panel look at what these guys are making sure they know and youve got to give credit to a commissioner that was in there 30 years there would build a business to where ive made a 1000000. 00 a year now we just looked at the shipping fee and drew its true its true basketballs an incredible force and i think it was a lot well it was a lot to stir and what you put in and also i think were talking earlier just what touches to start also the throughout all the controversy things like the best but it still allows a lot of the players to be the individuals they want to be and to speak out politically the way they want to and things like that that also started under david stern and i think thats an important thing to know about his legacy with that yeah basketball players coming off as a revolutionary you know these Football Players that is there anything about nothing and they think oh no not at all and im going to adam silver credit to him the commissioner erato audio audio like hey how do you like the fact theyre going to lead they had tony brown may be the plague of all but they wont let cap are going to get all that crap or any good theyre that good topic and well pick that one up again in a later date but i want to thank my panel Jesse Ventura the Watkins Rachel Rachel Blevins and steve thank you so much everyone for coming on always a pleasure that is our show for you today remember when in this world we are not told but we are loved enough so i tell you all i love i am tyrone. And keep on watching all those oct a great day like. A lot of the areas in the economy where china has caught up or surpassed us you know the mobile Payments Market 50 times the size of the us or over here still writing checks our Banking System is not innovated 5 g. Weve kind of recently woken up the last couple years and go wow we dont even have a company that can make 5 g. Equipment its been a win win for china and its been a lose lose for the u. S. Last. Leeks loss leader. When you. Look at that is too close to the book but. Its cool stuff that its about seeing. Theres. Just too well. 5 pm here in moscow and the breaking news this friday the United States assassinated irans top military commander in an Early Morning air strike in iraq provoking threats of retaliation from to run allied militias. You know the news the Turkish Parliament a decision to deploy troops to libya comes in for strong criticism as israel greece and the cyprus fear it will lead to a further escalation in the region. And continuing our rewind of 29 teams. We remember the tragedy that struck down cathedral in paris so dramatic