Species from becoming extinct or cross brit bill says sue perv raising the awareness which is german by unscrupulous battery farmers and the sheer ignorance of the public thanks folks and finally protection he says part of the reason theres an explosion in puppy farms is ridiculous how can prices by kennel club breeders sometimes charge over 1000. 00 pounds for the current trendy dogs these puppy farms are cashing in on this by selling pedigree pups a lot cheaper no matter how often people are told they think theyre getting a bargain and end up with a sick puppy that costs them a fortune in vague fees now back to alex in barcelona speaking 1st to laura match to tell. Your husband jochum 4 was the interior minister in the catalonia government of 2017 now been sentenced to 10 and a half Years Imprisonment for sedition. Surely joking. I was involved in local politics rose to become the you know the deputy mayor of this great city of barcelona but that must of occupied a lot of time in the local politics so thats inevitable in the political mileage isnt it yes to. Hero is to be a mayor of us to learn to live our plans were you involved in politics as well the bill you campaigning with your husband were you delivering leaflets i have to do now i have to do now but before i have my life my work and i always help he supports him but not with my commitment to school but to 2017. And jochum was it was asked by then president bush to come into Central Government from being the dep to me on a bus and. I brought to this most of the interior because of his experience in dealing with the police service. And catalonia but that was a time of great change and trouble with the preparations for this independence vote tell me about that and what it was like and how excited just there would be to to be part of the ministry of foreign pirates of the government saying to give for a response of. Big demand to organize a referendum it was an important moment for his life i will not be the 1st of october 2017 it must be a day of very conflicting emotions and catalonia no 100 was this great expression. A democratic ballot on the other hand there was the violence by the spanish the police which everyone saw until muscle in the Television Screen saw in the one hand theres this huge democratic special on the other hand sees scenes of violence what was so like experiencing that day and caseloads i remember we are very excited its the 1st of october we want to have all we want to express and we feel that we are dns could express. Bads spain i think they have made the terrible mistake in attacking us peaceful borders and that was soloing and then the Spanish Government started to arrest. For the judicial system and the ministers and those who were seen to be organizing the world had organized the referendum of president bush a momentum decks. In brussels initially in other countries the jochum overthink these arrests taking place it was time to get out of castle earlier quick before why do i leave the state to face the music he feel innocent he want to explain where. They have done he didnt expect. Spain so we saw. How our thoughts and our fire and then the expressions of support for jochum on the other people arrested them and youre willing the the the ball which we famously i think many many people who watch premier i think would see on the lapel of the Manchester City manager of course you have a picture of joe as well when youre on your lapel how does it feel when you see these expressions of support international desist give great encouragement joke among the others of course. I know. People they are suddenly very t. They close is not the person michaels thats why he came one day in his ideas in. His that they were nation and seen my day in. The illusion for the future because he knows that. That causes our collective close. When you. Have to show. 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Society and the freedom of the individual. Welcome back alex is in barcelona examining the human cost behind the punitive kill sentences handed out last month to 9. 00 cut to lines who had a role in the catalonia referendum of 2017 he now speaks to child born it whose husband george acute heart led the Cultural Organization on the. Im not joined by child born or the wife of george the crucial one of the 9 people imprisoned by the spanish courts for long sentences for their participation in the Independence Movement catalonia welcome to the show thank you very much its a pleasure joe tell me a bit when youre in jordan mc tell me where you both are activists in the National Movement or what was the politics quite separate from your relationship in fact my has been his the president of the most important to all association in catalonia that has almost 200000 members and at the moment that we met i im also shouldnt alys and i was working in selma literally and called total events and i was the them c. Of one of these events and then always when met at the beginning in the. Atmospheric you know in the quote. In the cool to the atmosphere jordan was tried because of his presence and demonstrations which were trying to prevent the spam least the police seizing the organizational infrastructure of the referendum. In 2007 team. But. That was a political demonstration wasnt it that was a mobilization of people to prevent the. And the ballot boxes or the organization of the the administration of the referendum was very Political Force and its not a question of the in the pendant of catalonia because for example in a scotland you could choose with a yes or between yes or no and here in catalonia it should be the same i mean that the thing that he was asking it was for the possibility of a referendum but you have the freedom to choose yes or not and then its something very very basic is fundamental right. Is the possibility that you could be in other much thracian using the freedom of a speech and saying ok im for the outer that im in a should im for the independence and this is not a crime to me a bit about that d. The 1st of it to both 2017 but on the one hand you have this huge turn of people supporting Catalan Independence expect an exuberant joyous. Be the violence which people round the world saw on the Television Screens of the state police stopping people voting people getting pushed on steve with clubs that must be the day a very conflicting emotions yes and it is very sad to arrive to this point the point that you you are seeing people watching in the t. V. People voting and some policeman beating these people this is a matter of all images that i think that the European Community must do something i mean that even if you dont recognize the resolution of a referendum because you are the like like in the spanish the Spanish Government they dont want a referendum as good i did kingdom as possible but not here but you are you should never be the people i mean you could not recognize the resolution but dont use the force of the pollies the violence what is going to happen these 2000000 and 3000 people that vote for the referendum to meet these 2000000 and 300000 people that vote for the referendum they should disappear because they dont like what they want or we should give some answer to these people some solutions then of course there was the political decision to to make a declaration of independence and there was a bit of political brewing and and then your husband. Was arrested. Tell me what it was like when jordy when you realized jordy was going to be subject to 2 arrests and. To tell us about. Your emotions i was watching the television it was almost 1010 pm i was in the television with my baby and i listened that jordison to the injured the one who shared where arrested him for trying on the tension and then the noise of the casseroles in all the neighborhood became too good to sound as a protest you know i really were beating support. A lot of noise and from from the 1st 2nd i understand that the people are going to give us a lot of support and even that it seems unarguable situation that you has one is arrested you have very little baby and this prison maybe its going to be for a long i never feel really sad and depressed and every day we feel stronger because we realize that a lot of people is in order of sight and i dont i dont like to speak one side to another side because i prefer to be all in the same boat but boy by the demonstrations of support obviously but for your family your. Passion for your husband i think to young yes yes and your husband and castle the 1st in spain and then back to catalonia that must be in iran this thing despite the yes demonstrations of solidarity and support are still your family who have been separated the heart of this thing in this period has been the time that the prisoners were in mothery that because they are far from madrid in a penitentiary far from other it and for the visits that this only twice but a month. You should travel zig 600 kilometers and then come back it means 1200 kilometers every every time that you visit him only for 2 hours and then gives you that the troubles are very disgusting you know and this is the the worst bar but we have brought of him i mean that even if we are growing the babies out of growing separate plea from his father we we feel proud of him and i dont know why this thing gives you a kind of a clear view with the but situation. With decided to have another baby when he was in jail and for us was a victory at the beginning youre seeing they are crazy why they want to have another baby in this situation but we are not so young and maybe if we wait for the end of the prison it couldnt be possible to have another baby and then all the things that are in your hands you should do it because if you have done still constructing your family it means that they have win and they have stopped completely your life you only can work in the present you know i dont know which the my husband will be in the in freedom but i know that if a work every day for this freedom the freedom will arrive sooner than if i dont do anything this is what what we are doing a limb we came to. 2019 and jordan. Was sentenced. People collectively took almost 100 years and years and 9 years and. So the hope is. That it. That moment when you realized that it wasnt just going to be found guilty of sedition but a sentence which was. Shocked people. Internationally in terms of civility its very hard its 9 years or 13 years and we couldnt permitted that we should fight for to stop this and unjust is this unfair to play i couldnt look to the future like all desirable its 9 years of prison i should work every day i mean that we we we should have speak to the International Community and try to a start this big and justice is a question of fundamental rights and home glad to be back obviously. But still in prison with a long sentence to come to this job to feel the boat the situation how does it feel dizzy hopeful that pressure will all see as loose as you hopeful about the political process but. How does how does jordie reacting to this long and he is a very strong guy and he said always that 8 the person has helped him forgive to him a kind of low to speak up if this people never put my husband in jail maybe the people in the scotland the people in all the you would of never listen about his fight but even if its very sad that hes paying a very hard price a person our price a sacrifice because he couldnt be with the fire me any more freedom life he has hurt thanks to the prison a kind of law the speaker for talk about the situation in catalonia is sad but hes using this for oppression to accuse the government with all the will nations of the fundamental rights of the freedom of speech of and freedom of assembly and. The way that the criminal is the participation and the right to vote in a lecture if a lot of support yes trail from the p. And youve traveled yourself for the other part most other parliaments to mobilize support theres been very little support from european governments or the institutions of the the European Union how disappointing has that been the lack of official governmental support for the catalonian struggle in general but the plate of you your husband and others and particularly in the case of catalonia and spain its very difficult because the spain has a lot of debt and economics in a spain are very weak and very dangerous and spain with us got the loan yet is that then generous problem from the European Community and then i think that in europe the its very sad to say but they dont speak about the problem because even if the fundamental race the fundamental rights have been violated they are more worried about the money and what is going to happen if there is a crisis between catalonia and spain they say that this is the mastic esau from a spain but these are the mystic from the European Union let me assure personal question very personal question your babies are very young too young to understand politics whats happened to the. Way you must have thought about what youre going to say to them a little old enough to understand how you can explain to your babies why the father and person they are very young because one is 40 days all and the other even if hes very young hes 2 years and a half but hes asking when we are in jail he said hes saying every time pop up you dont come with us and we say today no but the one day it will arrive the father comes with us we are not. Giving to order Children Education that the should have an enemy what we will say to our children when they are all done is that maybe his father was a not home in their side but he was fighting for our collective right that old saw is right for them and i hope that they understand this that the father is not his site at their site every day but he was fighting for a collective thing also for them im sure they will know we have a position in scotland you probably do as well that you your new baby you toss the baby this is a quick and how you toss the baby in for a quick as you whiskey will its gods will for sure. All the people of god loonier. Ok thank you very much thank you chip thank you so much. There to corny and sentences of the Spanish Supreme Court shock to liberal opinion across the world and independent sentiment in catalonia very few countries in the civilized world pursue sedition as a concept unless it is linked in some way to violence and history teaches us that this sort of repressive tactic is seldom successful today show however has been about the human cost upon to families of these long sentences and focused on 2 women who have picked up the mantle of speaking it in favor of their imprisoned husbands there is little in the spanish Election Results which offer the hope of initiatives to break the deadlock that is a civil force of catalan nationalism is still up against the immovable object of the Spanish State opinion is hardening on both sides and prospects of a postelection breakthrough seem as elusive as ever one can only hope the now that this meaningless election is over then meaningful talks can begin out for continues to push in catalonia over the coming weeks. Meanwhile join us next time when we move back to i celebrated panel of political pundits their forecasts at the start of the campaign generated over 400000 views on alexs face for a little next secret ask them how the campaigns going whos up on his die and whether theyre still all to play for and this christmas election but until then its good bye from all of us to be sure i mean hope to see you next to. Your government and our government and all the other major governments of the world know whats going to happen and when its gone. But they havent told you and they havent told me they havent announced. Imagine something as big as the earth. Is going to cause tidal waves earthquakes volcanoes are going to wrapped and its going to chill. So very for a while right. My great grandfathers quote. Nobody would care about the law or prison so youd have lawlessness should have. A turbo license between that and the. What i suggest is a call the reverse hunger games then reverse under our randomly pick 10. 00 to 15. 00 billionaires every year and strip them of everything get it down to 0 and course im out there make it into the world of commerce and see if they can build it up to scratch again introduce risk back into the American Capital system once you have a certain amount of money theres no more risk youre just clipping coupons for vanity and you have no stake in the game whatsoever. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy to confront a shouldnt let it be an arms race based on off and spearing Dramatic Development only mostly im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk. You know world of big partners. Lot and conspiracy its time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that Mainstream Media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door. And shouting past each other its time for Critical Thinking its time to fight for the middle for the troops the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. As the brics summit in brazil wraps up the russian president stresses the organisations importance for global stability and developing future markets. At least 2 people were killed in a High School Shooting in california 3. Suspects has been arrested. Supporters of ousted president clashed with police demanding the new government leave the old one back