Indefinite detention mass surveillance yeah well as of right now we can only guess just what war on terror style early and gauged and tactics mr barr has on his mind his new effort to stop mass shooters but given the u. S. Governments controversial history when it comes to stopping terrorism. I think its time we start watching the whole house. To see. What its like you know that i got. With. This. Well the world watching the hawks i am for and have. An f. B. I. Director christopher ray. Actually told lawmakers. In the 1st 3 quarters of the 2101st goal year that the bureau had logged more than 100. 00 terror related arrests. On the white power. Domestic terrorism and i wasnt it was probably because an f. B. I. Guy came to try. I just. Also the memorandum does differentiate so theres this between suspected terrorists. Terrorists terrorists from suspected mass shooters just to clarify one round and once not oh. Well we raise our like one of those members and unlike many historic terrorism cases quote many of todays Public Safety threats appear abruptly and with sometimes only ambiguous indications of intent and that many of these individuals quote exhibit symptoms of Mental Illness and or have Substance Abuse problems i also think that probably qualifies for a lot of people on capitol hill a little bit lower not running around shouting out their rights. I mean doesnt that just kind of make it a little nervous when you hear things like this like oh were going to get them with precrime and then were going to. The things that we learned in the war on terror to now take home to our shores and try to use them to capture people before they commit a crime somehow. While they get through the backlog of rape and actually put white collar criminals steal from every working class family in this country away and then you can come cry to me about how youre going to figure out how little timmy in the high school is going to be a mass shooter in 5 years i mean it is i dont buy it i dont buy that there at a level i dont believe they have the competence level to understand what theyre doing and i think their whole terrorism versus mass shooter lone gunman but they do have. You have a dark and hard combine to make something worse not that far off as weve talked about on this show i think back in august or the help advanced Research Projects agency if green lit was pitched to the white house it kind of falls into what bars talking about what hes been alluding to kind of reintroducing mass surveillance and judging. Richard because it went away with. Exactly. Harpo would be tasked to come up with out of the box ways to handle problems much like darpa the defense advanced Research Projects agency does for the military one of those proposed is something called say oh oh yes 1st stopping apparent fatal advance by help in helping overcome mental extremes of these groups calls for exploring whether Technology Including phones and smart watches can be used to detect when mentally ill people are about to turn violent. You know. This is all. Right. I mean well we all really love to know when were going to have a bad moment or when. Were talking about teenagers or you know people outside of a certain social norm or a certain social subset in which theyre getting a regular Mental Health screenings or theyre getting regular Mental Health care heres an idea how about you just provide more health care and Mental Health care to the communities in which we keep seeing a rise in domestic terrorism and then when we see these things happening why not i dont know provide the services that we pay our taxes for because thats a hard long road easier just to throw Law Enforcement in every problem its easier just to throw you know Law Enforcement goons and say go grab people we might think maybe blows that opens the door i mean look and thats the thing that bothers me about this look at how we abuse the patriot act in the past and how we abuse surveillance and we took the war on terror and turned it in police state mentality in terms of terms of fighting it. I just cant trust that theyre going to do the same theyre not going to do the same playbook when it comes to stopping mass shooters are so negative. And i should just trust the good right but negative. Shares in microsoft had a record high on monday when they landed the 10000000000. 00 contract to provide Cloud Computing for the pentagons joint enterprise defense infrastructure or. The system is meant to store and process the large amount of data mostly classified needed to bulk up the United States future in Artificial Intelligence however many are none too happy with the deal including amazon who lost out on the contract and then founder jeff bezos. Posed has gone toe to toe with trump. Since he took office and many contend that it was bays oza furball jousting with the president that lost amazon the chance to build the death machines that the future joining us now for more on the microsoft war machine gun tracked is our corresponding america correspondent. Well you know i have to say if you go home tonight if you even have an alexa ask her hey alexa did you get that 10000000000. 00 bed now shes going to have to say no right but you know so theyre feeling a little bit surprised because it is one of these things that theres 30 king over the world basically i mean theyre taking over everything with amazon and this is a huge blow to their ego because they didnt get it and microsoft around you know theyre still there actually are july report found that amazon they have 50 percent of the market cloud sharing 50 percent of the Cloud Computing market microsoft has a whopping 16 percent so by microsoft getting this its going to make up for that last time it but you know there was other companies in there as well we had microsoft amazon oracle and i. B. M. All pitted against each other microsoft is the winner so i dont know what it is exactly to be contracted and what is the program please im assuming its what korea advertising for the upcoming star wars movie like a p. R. Campaign right which we all know that those are i think i think are going to be living and tested as well. But the joint enterprise defense infrastructure is what i stands for and what it is is it stores and processes vast amounts of classified data and now i want to bring up this quote because dan gray of real clear defense hed put it bluntly and like in just plain jane words it says the jet i could jet i will be able to support the Rapid Development and deployment of virtually any Application Store movement protect the most Sensitive National intelligence information and support real time Decision Making so pentagon leaders envisioned as and as including mobile even miniaturized. Backpacked portable servers will provide Tactical Units with highly classified Mission Critical and actionable intelligence ultimately its hoped the job is going to change the department of defense itself transforming how it captures processes understands and exploits data so basically this is like god 2. 0 i guess i dont know and its also interesting to note too that our government has 500 cloud. Cloud computing capabilities other countries out there 810 we have 500 so just when you thought you needed more. I mean to us are you worried about our veges using a very huge threat to have that many the idea of like a backpack and a server i mean i know it all sounds super great in theory i just dont know that it quite works and also anybody whos ever used windows knows. So you had did mention other. Like i. B. M. And oracle going i have days that anything about not winning on this contract well so the problem was is that they actually said that this whole deal was gift wrap for amazon so thats why you had oracle and i. B. M. Coming out and actually oracle took this to the Court Systems because again gift wrapped for amazon the National Defense authorization act is what they cited which is basically saying theres a conflict of interest here it was deep who worked for amazon he both worked for amazon both before and after his time at the department of defense this federal judge then was like oh ok so well put a hold on this fast forward to august of this year weeks before the winner was expected to be announced trump ordered the contract to be placed on hold again for the defense secretary mark esper to investigate complaints of favoritism towards amazon also saying everything against jeff bezos under the sun either on twitter or in person and then he came out early obviously monday saying that trump. Had asked for he wanted this decision to be made asap so thats where microsoft that comes into play again its really not an evil amazon. But then ive got the other one thats still going through because theres another theres the other big dog that we havent talked about the room with this is google and you know i want to get this in real quick is that you know lets not forget amazon also owns the Cloud Computing techniques for the Intelligence Community so thats going to be really interesting but were going to google for them all this because theyve got their Super Computers and all that going on right so actually last year google. Google employees came out and said that they dont want anything to do with government contracts google listened to their employees and was like ok thats fine well take a step back microsoft employees at the same time said the same exact thing but microsoft was like well we can have a long standing history with the military so were going to keep doing it so thats where that falls into play work google had no hand in this whatsoever not even to make you know thank you so much fair and. Watching. Thanks for bringing us larry. Already a birdie as we go to break dont forget to let us know what you think of the topics we cover at our social media and be sure to check out watching the hawks the podcast is now available on spotify apple music and everywhere listen to podcasts coming up we dig into the controversy surrounding Law Enforcements use of d. N. A. Testing websites like family tree d. N. A. Legal media analyst lionel line only but before we go check out this new style of art or taking pharmaceuticals to school by storm painting with bacteria yes these students from the pharmaceutical university in china are creating works of art using different color forms of bacteria. Just yummy. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe from. Isolation for community. Are you going the right way or are you being led so. Direct. What is true. Is great. In the world corrupted you need to just stand. There join us in the depths. Or a maybe in the shallows. To my hardest to i dash 1st to care but it. Dhanush optimism and. I design human to be washed as you can. Get a regular ricky. In the same country because he must come telling me i make us tell. Son and clung to my mum and it had to be neighbors who. Sent. Him on the hudson to move the whole thing as opposed to final thing with the cut. Well you know im sure you dont but also you know many of these young is there. So much more to see and he was just enough to see me. Oh. Thank you. Thank you. From murderers to rapists to serial killers like the im from a scolding state killer for years many of societys most hannis monsters have remained free and large but then thanks to a new tool in Law Enforcements repertoire investigative genealogy and free public d. N. A. Databases like match and family tree d. N. A. Cold cases were suddenly becoming hot again find a sample of the perpetrators d. N. A. A crime scene or an old case file send it to match a boat you might get a match to their cousin father grandma or even unknownst the suspect themselves but theres a catch as buzz feeds reports nearly 70 people suspected of murder or rape have been identified across the country using the revolutionary investigative technique but Law Enforcement say use of public d. N. A. Databases also quickly raise privacy concerns as Michael Melendez and connor boy observe and desert news our d. N. A. Inherently reveals not only our personal medical information and ethnic heritage but connections to a family tree of relatives its not just an identity match of a single individual its a coerced gene a logical disrobing of a persons entire family joining us now to dive into the strands of layers of this ongoing debate surrounding Law Enforcements use of investigative genealogy is legal and media and was why i dont know why the media a veritable double helix. For me yes so i want to in your opinion should police will get this word out the way it should police be able to use public d. N. A. Testing sites like g d match or you know family tree d. N. A. To help them solve current and historical crimes let me tell you how to answer any legal question that anybody ask you im telling you it works every time it depends for the most part yes 1st question. Does the person who provides a sample. One who is did the golden state kill or provide a sample. But lets talk about the person who does do they have a reasonable expectation of privacy yes in fact they volunteered of this it please i my mitochondria as soon as i was going to go so so they had no problem so right off the bat lionels law also was the law always lags behind technology this doesnt work so they do we reverse family trees so what theyre doing is theyre looking for these you know empire state or Golden State Killer and they never intruded upon the his privacy rights or anything they found somebody who might have matched so the answer is do your theres nothing wrong with it there would be no 4th amendment problem no. Violation of anything the police never did anything it was voluntary just like if you had pictures if you love to go outside take pictures of crowds and i walk outside and you say you know theres a bank robbery right around here and you say it was funny ive got heres my pictures today oh look theyre so i really so to answer that no problem interest but thats just part of the issue here. One of this is the other thing that you know were looking at it and these obviously the ones were talking about that theyre using are the somewhat free open database says meant for people who like we have talked about are looking for a parent that may whether you were adopted or why that far you end up trying to find somebody and thats the sort of open databases are for and then theres the ones that pay for it and you you know have some semblance of privacy although theyre probably selling it off to make clones somewhere so if you see more me running around. But this the interesting thing is just the mass of a number of cases that they found through this and like you said its you know no one wants to be affected because of the gold. Killer but if you get someone off the street theres a misunderstanding to the New York Times reported that this technique could be used to revive cold cases including at least 100000 unsolved major Violent Crimes and 40008 on it by body what about those who argue that who cares about the privacy who cares that the information will carry out whatever you sad its more important that we put now also a way add to this the number of rape cases where jurisdictions or states have stopped funding altogether where there are evidence rooms just teeming with evidence because they can get to them so its murder its that its now the issue is this were let me twitch a little bit lets say the f. B. I. Says look. Weve got this guy and theres nobody else i want to go directly to this company and say look can we just run this amount looking for any kind of relative i want to go do you have this person there now thats the issue is just like with your information as far as your phone what is your expectation of privacy kid can the government go to apple can you go to microsoft go to google whatever and say we won this did you give up this right or by virtue of you submitting this information to a clown and signing god knows how many terms it isnt and when you downloaded the new form of this did you waive your right we dont know thats the issue that i want is when somebody when the government says listen g. D. Match whatever it is we want to go directly to your database for get the men and women to go and we just better yet can we just kind of interface with you can we just if you dont mind it might get a nice government matching fund if we can just connect so any time you get a new one thing being these little red lights go up and we say cut cold case cold case. It does raise another interesting thing because its like i think its that idea of what were right now ridge and we hear about the government taking d. N. A. From the people from the migrants who are coming over the border right here and a lot of people are saying hey the government shouldnt be having databases of our d. N. A. Of what we do in fact many cases like new york have been doing this already but we also tell you something and this is to all the all the youngsters out there and all the people who say hey haifa im part scandinavian. Barky what youre doing is when you do that spit kit thing and you send it up one of these days were going to find out from your genome whos gay who has a propensity for alzheimers who has perhaps is going to be diabetic no insurance you know who has a Mental Health problem who is transgender who is bipolar were going to find everything and guess what you just. Provided that when you want to find out your lineage so be careful d. N. A. Is not a fingerprint its you and thats where its sort of wonder if the where there is this change of mindset about certain things that our privacy is that because that is you you understand that when youre giving that swab and saying i want to do that sort of find a parent or what ever figure out why i have blue eyes because im way very way thats what the d. N. A. Is to us the reason were going through all this is there a certain point that we are just not really understanding or were not getting paid and not to understand the difference between giving your medical information yes to a doctor where its protected and to these companies where its not under the same like have laws especially hipaa is a great point especially with the younger generations who are born in captivity who dont understand what 184. 00 is who dont understand a thing about privacy is because what were doing right now is this is going to be a time capsule theyre going to save these people were worried about come on man with when there was no privacy what do you what do i have. That sort of the but its so cool and when you see these great part thats my favorite im sure your part everything so i think i mean youre probably part of are going to lose the us a little bit because after going to thats the way it is and you just they do you and also who owns these companies and what are you can you get them back kid can you this is the part that nobody understands and by the way when you do this and youre always doing biometrics you look at me look at my face look at my boys look at me this because i figure brits are going to them prince wheres that going eventually were going to be 247 pound uptick on everything about you tap into everything your voice your figures where you go your d. N. A. You genome your hair youre like youre breaking your friends your likelihood you can have social. Horrible chinese story about the social Credit Scores and nobody broke in the your house to get. You gave them his that was cool maybe i could sell it and then they could be fake me and i wouldnt have to cut i would have to do i just send my deep thinking and then here forever it is interesting because i think you brought up a great point both of them that idea that were just were not thinking this through yet its the shiny new toy syndrome everythings so cool and everythings so shiny that were not thinking about a long Term Employee exactly were we going to clone one of these days were going to figure out in your birth certificate your clone is not your son or your daughter its you and theres no check mark on the birth certificate for you giving birth to you its so again the law lags behind technology always and always a pleasure thank you is for coming on sir thank you. 8. 3000000000 metric tons of plastic has been created since invention in the 1950 s. And that somehow in 70 years since we dont have a new exciting clean way to reuse and recycle that plastic on a large scale and im now friends for a start up carby is takes pulverized pet plastic the kind used in your one use Water Bottles in certain kinds of plastic clothing and breaks it down with enzymes those enzymes then break down the plastic to its components monomers the monomers are then cleaned and made into new plastic that is just as good as the original and making it even better this bio recycled plastic can be bio recycled over and over and over again without ever losing strength or quality and the company hardy is expects their 1st Processing Plant to open my 2021 hears to the beginning of the end of new Petroleum Based pricing wow that is cool and we think a lot of a lot of areas over the over the years about how to break down plastic will break it on the micro plastics but we know micro plastics are bad oh well do this and its always been the recycling is like they told us for 20 years serie a cycle but they didnt actually know how to do that. Its interesting how we keep doing that right look up we just talked about with the d. N. A. Thing we dont like others is so cool that we didnt really think about the back side of this issue you know daimler sort through our garbage but then do nothing with having nothing down to the corner right but this is what i love about this is that it also from what i understand it prevents new plastic from being made and we could just stop i mean thats i was saying is you know you have 8000008000000000 whatever metric tons you dont have to make any more plastic we can still have it but this is a cleaner process it doesnt use things like solvents and its a close one of those closed loop process that we talk about so you dont have a bunch of runoff or chemical processes its bio and you get these little pellets like you saw just like regular plastic that you would get it and you can use it over and over and over again and illustrate that is fantastic well everybody that is our show for you today is the number one in the world youre not told were loved enough so i told the wall i love you i am tired rolled into a topical i keep on watching all those hawks out there that have a great day and night everybody. 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