And if they have a role in order to put a check on the disruption of trump now this is obviously problematic for a lot of reasons one for one statement im just going to let us of this drop there he said you know i want to renegotiate their thing all our economic deals. Nato is perhaps obsolete they want to get rid of the wars so the purpose of this 4th branch of power the deep state would then be to maintain the status quo or Thomas Friedman its like the tyranny of status quo they seem to think ok well then what do we need elected officials for i mean if theyre already in charge theyre going to be making the decisions why do we need to elect officials i mean it seems to me that they know they claim to know better and if we accept them as a 4th branch then were just going to have president s that will mimic their talking points i mean this is a serious moment here well you heard friends we have to say. The naive deep state always in. Power as. They always have been in maine and what this does different is that there is trying to subvert the will of the people ok i think we all know that president s and Prime Ministers they all in the western world they do there is pressure from the Intelligence Community and sometimes thats a good thing but when they think that they know better than elected officials that is a dangerous point certainly and was criticized about socalled democracies that claim that democracy is to descant deep state and of course from when you go back into conspiracy theories which we were. Well always listening to about do as a nation of john f. Kennedy for instance had you said in the sixtys 3 dead there was a conspiracy about it you know it would have been blasphemy no 4 to 50 years later we can talk about it do involvement off the deep state of killing. I would just say that what a squad of interesting now is to look at to legitimize sation of the deep sea is not denying it but run it bring it right up there and you see this for example that a lot of the media on the left on the liberal side now are you know putting in the Intelligence Service this is a hiring them. In the media and also when i actually went against the Intelligence Community this was again it was this was blasphemy how can you possibly these are the you know theyre not their job isnt this information theyre Truth Tellers and how could it possibly will deny all this or to sell it in a 2nd with Samantha Power ok good evil well i think that we should all remember who the person east he was deputy cia director during. School he claimed in 20022003 that iraq had weapons of mass destruction and that was if we believe him institutional commitment to objectivity and. To a higher court. So the point is that this system you know if they had been serving the state you know that he should utilize all that you can if you can to lie in the name of the state but the result was disastrous iraq is not loyal to the United States in iraq let that russian points to syria iraq is basically ignored not given its oil to the United States but to a lot of Companies Including russia and whats. In syria dont want to fail because they not only didnt change the regime in syria they will show off and theyre like so these deep state besides being very cruel its also very ineffective its against American National media its against american initial interest i want to address this to both of you i think we need to stress a point that glenn has brought up here what i find really disturbing is how the liberal media is giving legitimacy to this in giving cover to because when we go to the deep state because we know that the origins of russia gate will be revealed to us we have durham we have a g. Bar we have a number of reports coming in it seems to me that theyre preempting this because the truth sayers on c. N. N. In m. S. M. D. C. Are going to be true be shown to be liars and probably. People who have committed criminal offenses i think this is a well this really is already going we dont know that much and were going to know the raid but one of the saying is that theyre circling the wagons and using american metaphor because well if the purpose of the state is to put a check on the president d one must ask well what is the policy then of this in this in the Intelligence Community and thats very much theyre committed to maintaining the status quo so. Theres no one who is actually you know elected them can remove them and to a large extent is and prevents any dramatic change such as getting out of the long term wars and i think youre correct with more and more openness about this you know we have this leaks now which is posted in New York Times where they say well they actually tried to prohibit or restrict some of the information i guess to tromp or now in syria but this is what we take the oil and thats a way of staying there so you see more and more influence on behalf of the deep state or us in the strait of state and. Again i think theres i think we all remember it was only. I think a little more than a week ago when Hillary Clinton came out from her long walks in the in the in the force i came out and really dissed. Assaulted on twitter. By an antiwar candidate and it seems to me that is coordinating all of these things are coordinated you have the deep state you have the media and they had to pile on because she represents shes a disruptor as well she said disruptor in the Democratic Party like trump was in the Republican Party and you saw the piling on antiwar pulling back from this imperial reach is something that is completely forbidden and you will be punished in public for it well and as you just mentioned the media of course the media has their impact there as well and of course you can question whether some of the media is maybe part of the deep state this is where i would go and say they are trying to impeach president of the United States it has never happened and never never been completed resigned or survived like mr clinton survived his affair but i remember that he for 2 weeks before the affair broke he had resisted bombing devices on no fly zone in iraq no after the impeachment process started he suddenly was willing to bomb a little of course nixon when he finished the vietnam war obviously he went against the deep state as well and its really interesting that the only time the deep state seems to like trump is when hes bombing someone ok we saw that because they said it was normal that it was really president ial and n. B. C. News said look at all those beautiful missiles ok and again the deep state in the media or in lockstep where i just i would like to remind our viewers that just as you said just a few months ago a new one who objected to their Mainstream Media in the United States was called either a conspiracy theorist or special and there are very few of us at that time i said would make. Spears that point but you know people wake up and now. That this is the truth and what are they serving i mean theyre not sure in the state theyre 7 and i do or which. And the problem with that ideology is that unlike nazis meant coleman is it doesnt recognize and name for itself it doesnt name itself they just say we are the free world we are the normal countries why doesnt russia become president and normal country and you see how more and more. Hypocritical to tear it tearing isms have become the nazis were put you know like we will go and subject gay to all of these want to mention you know the communist talked about british dairy and you know what everyone in the end understood what they were up to and now we have the system which 1st claimed that were just saving refugees you know were getting rid of weapons of mass destruction in iraq and now them saying yes there was a deep state and there is a deep state and we will do whatever we can see a necessary anything untoward and working out what is noble and actually the we should give we should bow down we should. Except for the good wisdom of the deep state thats what the medias message is 30 seconds before we go to break thank you then i think thats the key problem is its not whether or not well sometimes it dips it might be a good thing sometimes my 2 bad thing but the fact that theres a saying you know this lack of democratic oversight or you know the whole murkiness of them none of this matters now because of the goodness theyre doing so if you think theyre doing good or bad surely this emergence of this for a 4th branch of power should be a concern should be a concern more than a concern we go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on some real news today with our team. Well its so wrong. But all wrong just dont call. Me. Yet to see palin. Disdained becomes agitated and it gains from an equal betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart. Just to look for common ground. Today there are good dentists combat veterans the bad news in yemen the United States deems to be a threat to the good of those who would in syria the cia and the us military were engaged in covert actions really throughout the world. Where they were assassinating populist leaders they were backing up the right way military juntas funding an army of death squads theres no phones anymore because theres always a small people for a really good this good for profit. What politicians do something to. Put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president. Or some want to be rich. Have to be right to be cross this is what the before 3 in the morning cant be good that im interested always in the waters of college. Last question. Is youll media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe from. High salacious little community. Are you going the right way or are you being legs up with. Direct. What is true. Is. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us and the dead. Already made in the shallows. Welcome back across the uk where all things are considered im Peter Lavelle to remind you were discussing some real news. Ok gentlemen lets switch gears here Samantha Power the former. American ambassador to the United Nations came out with an op ed piece in the New York Times and it was about the house of representatives recognizing the genocide had been committed against the armenian people by the autumn and turks and its been a very controversial issue the u. S. Has been has been very careful with this issue because turkey is a nato ally but things have changed and although there are 2 things i mean the timing of its in very important here and some of the things that she said which i think i would like to highlight here the resolution meaning the resolution the house passed matters hugely to american armenians of course but it is also a reminder of how important truth telling is to American Foreign policy this is some out the power of truth telling well and how alternately selfdefeating it is for the United States to bend to autocratic pressures pressure tactics with oprah rather from turkey or anyone else but she never talks about the pressure tactics that the u. S. Uses around the world on an everyday basis what about the timing ahead well the timing of course is interesting also that of suggests that the u. S. Like all countries which is a reasonable point of view is that they have to balance their threats. Strategic interest with their values but the what she said just now is that americas moral compass its consciousness really has come 1st and this allows america to rediscover the power of telling the truth but there the timing of course is interesting because its this suddenly were like what what what what would of course this and it seemed that why all the sudden telling the truth now were going to get it always be the case along comes 5 years might be speculating but it does seem it would be a punishment of turkey and this is all from how great powers would use values and ideas and moral to that is you know if you align yourself with the great power then you will look to other way if they if you go against them then they will hold you accountable and so its not so much a truth telling us using human rights democracy and genocide in a diminishing diminishes the resolution itself diminishes the historical fact of genocide jumping well i think that some of the poll gave us a clue why she said that that particular this particular moment lets read the article also turkish officials may see the vote this retaliation for turkey is brutus all over america nato protests over Russian Air Defense system simply reduce the impact of turkish blackmail well the joint distribution of them were right if they suspect its a little if this is somehow connected to the purchase all of this for hundreds and for there are the problems that the United States has with turkey they will be 100 percent right you know and im sure its a very interesting new understanding by someone from poland on their on their rights if you go against the United States anything in your ancestors deed 100 years ago 200 years ago may be used against you see if you did you know the story with cop in message when polish officers were executives on study and sort of did take police and or. She admitted that what point is that when american officials keep pushing that story against russians the last person who participated in this massacre in 1901 you know it was 86 years old so the current generation doesnt have anything to do with it you know and russia apologized and you know went to cutting but they keep pushing that story not because people like some of the power concerned about these executive officers or about armenians what i did in that genocide of the use it for political me for political means because her memoir that has recently come out i mean she she in barristers herself with her or her reflections upon what she was involved in when it comes to yemen and its a complete whitewash here so again we we see the cheapening of morality here ok and i agree i have no problem with the u. S. House of representatives recognizing the historical fact of the genocide against the armenians but im im insulted morally how it is being used as a political cudgel well it is the same as we experience as germans. Of course we have to commemorate the victims of the nazis fascism and of the world war. But if someone is using it in a way to push for a policy change i think that is trampling on the graves of those who suffered and lost the lives and so i think we have to be reasonable and dont use it for day to day politics we are not talking about how many native americans were killed. Saturday everybody who came so if we count all of these we dont know who you know so i would. Rather in a sober way to look at history and not use it as a new form for day to day politics harrowing i think the people who should be most insulting. By whats happened its because theyre being used but need to quickly you know some want to be sure that she will immediately get all the support you know her memoir is called and educational when i did just this is an idealist who has been weakened by kind of klavier before revealing something that was all b. S. You know and of course i think a lot of it means they wont buy it because it is sold ok i want to switch gears here or something but its really important is happening and we have both russian officials coming out saying that. The possible renewal of the stop start arms control agreement is its there isnt enough time before it comes in 2021 in as i said earlier to you glenn is that bolton is gone but bolton is and remains here its not its not enough coverage is given to this i think its very very important its a last large important control agreement from the cold war in the u. S. Is show no interest whatsoever to renegotiated or even extended and its should worry many because i think were going to almost a used to having this nuclear they. Were no longer having this very disruptive Nuclear Confrontation but that seems to be unraveling very quickly again we step by step a lot of this Cold War Nuclear agreements arms control agreements have been falling apart and this is not nothing in the pipeline to replace them and seemingly russia is a bit worried that this is the last one falling apart and it will unleash a lot of unpredictability of the Armenian Community i. M. F. Now start in again discuss the previously on this program and initially my thought this proceed towards the american position in terms of having to renegotiate a lot of them because the world us changed technologies have changed theres a lot of reasons why one of their players are china and now we having a new weaponry coming along as well so on one hand states do want to take a bit of. You know. There are. And also have to include china which wasnt there before but ill have this this idea that you know something i will ever thing and then hope you can put something to back back to get later on it seems unlikely this deals common. Agreements in place after a huge crisis so it seems that this is right they were heading were going to go towards some. Military standoff and that would create the impetus for you know its really interesting the many we look at trump is the great disruptor but in a way when it comes to arms control the lack of these agreements is the disruption itself and i think that you know glenn is absolutely right were going into Uncharted Waters here we have a vastly improved technology and for these horrific weapons here we should be talking arms control now more than ever before but its not happening you know but you see there even not covered at all their arms like the via logical chemical weapons and also the harbor. For instance to earthquake or whatever and they can create from with natural disasters all that was not covered bodies to reduce and you know no i think it was more important whether their leaders as a more left leaning during those i must say i find it difficult to applaud to a president like mr but he actually hes probably better than the arms control or because hes starting to withdraw troops and well hes Charlie Charlie i mean this is this goes back to the 1st part of our conversation here i mean whatever his inclinations are and hes not a studied man when it comes to Foreign Policy it is obvious as glenn has pointed out somebody whispered in his ear what about the oil in the trump clung to that again it was very very clumsy unsophisticated and i think it goes against his own instinct what i wanted to say and i forgot in the 1st part of the program is that Public Opinion is behind. Trumps inclination to withdraw troops around the world and end these wars. You have this terrible torrent or misinformation from the Mainstream Media you know immediately after trump announced that he was withdrawing the troops they started this narrative he betrayed the kurds the kurds are going to be exterminated Nothing Happened actually to the could they were not exterminated you know there is a new process going on but we get the kind words Foreign Policy russia is the only winner in syria although you know in germany tromp makes need to all to a toy army you know this is. Someone who came to discuss and sound one who interviewed putin probably a dozen times and he says all drowned gave up to putin and we can only start understanding this seriousness of the situation so you have these torrent of misinformation you know that Public Opinion may be for withdrawing the troops but these people look they have no access to the movie and the media is pushing this narrative you know that which is completely wrong i mean nato is still even the european nato allies they spent 4 times more than russia on weapons how can you call it that only. You know the United States is stealing syria can control you all and no we read in the New York Times that trump is using it probably for political leverage over syria imagine that i came to your apartment just to offer something and then i say this is not fair i mention it but for political leverage against you i will give you back your mind if you bequeath great get Information Age is over there has been there for thousands of me to thousands to to destabilize and overthrow the Syrian Government and now half a 1000000 people are that the illegally occupied the country and yet the outrage is that they are leaving. From an illegal occupation of a foreign country and the media somewhat relieved that at least trump said he would take the oil as a way of stating that you know this is going to go the moral argument over there the interesting thing is that with the smuggling of syrian oil outside of the country its a violation of the sanctions the u. S. Itself or the un syria when it comes to all the ladies were there they are there were they were the ones breaking the sanctions themselves here 10 seconds you could make it out this is not what this is part of the problem 1 with why they have put himself in a difficult position so this. Company wrong out of from the north thats obvious a lot of problems with it but but you can see also where it comes from the title is difficult when there is a need we havent figured out the syrian problem on this program he writes well the time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here argue see you next time remember. Imagine. This is 35 and you have a career and clear involves using your i phone in your computer and things like that in an office. Perhaps you start getting headaches or kids. Are going to have to stop doing all this i mean this is kind of you look at the minutes before. 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